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Bullying Edit War committed by editor Jonathunder

Jonathunder is engaging in an obvious edit-war by reverting and removing material I put on the Talk pages of Merrick Garland and Merrick Garland SUpreme Court Nomination. He is trying to avoid the development of a consensus that reference to withdrawing the nomination of Garland is being made by reliable sources in the news media. I will be adding such references shortly, but I wanted to establish the propriety of doing so. Thugs like Jonathunder and Neutrality have decided to try to prevent me from doing so, and thus obstructing the discussion. 75.175.105.188 (talk) 22:40, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Hello 75.175.105.188. Although I think deletion of your comments might have been a little heavy-handed, Jonathunder and Neutrality are correct that the sort of comment you put on Talk:Merrick Garland does not belong there. Please review our policy WP:NOTFORUM: Article talk pages are not a forum for discussion of the subjects of articles, they are for discussion of the articles themselves. Your original comment appeared to have nothing to do with our article. If you want to discuss content or sources you want included in the article, then by all means discuss it by writing something like, "What do people think about adding X to the article?" Of course, we need to adhere to other policies and guidelines, such as WP:V and WP:AGF. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 22:50, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Arthur Llewllyn Williams

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LCB Leasing listed at Redirects for discussion

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DYK for Larson's Hunters Resort

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Cathedrals

I wish I saw your post before I finished. What I'm doing is making the pages consistent as with the other US cathedral wiki pages which have the cathedral names along with their location.

Roberto221 (talk) 19:37, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

SW MN road trip

I skipped the Jacob Nuffer Farmstead on my 2012 pass through Rock County merely because I deemed it too far off my route, or possibly because I lost too much time looking for those long-gone bridges. However in looking at it now via online satellite imagery and comparing it to the NRHP nomination and photos, it is clear that all or nearly all of the historical buildings on the farm have been razed. I woudn't go out of your way for that one.

The rest of your prospective list looks great. I'm assuming the unlisted NRHP and museum sites in those counties are too far off the I-90 corridor for you. There's always some lame stubs in the county categories (Category:Nobles County, Minnesota) — usually schools and lakes — that could be photographed.

Happy trails! -McGhiever (talk) 02:44, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

If you can venture beyond Worthingon, we could really, really use an exterior shot of the Church of St. Kilian! -McGhiever (talk) 16:02, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

I might have to. That's just outside Wilmont, which is apparently the only place you can get Larry Lang's onion rings. I was initially inclined to remove that from the article, but a little research shows that might actually be a thing. Jonathunder (talk) 16:40, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Well done so you made the call

Bully for you thank you, you made the call on Bared. I have to make hundreds and hundreds of mini decisions like that as I trog through the infamous Neelix list and I am the only one doing it, actually I would have listed it at RfD rather than boldly retargeting it but that is fine by me. If we have any chance of getting through them we have to use our initiative and sometimes that means we make the wrong call. I think on this one actually you made the right call although you have not rcatted it as {{R from verb}} as I would have done. Now can you please leave me alone to get on with them. Si Trew (talk) 02:02, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

DYK for S/2015 (136472) 1

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

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Heitkamp Gun Control Section

Thank you for editing the Heitkamp gun control section, but since the portion you removed is well documented fact, there is no NPOV problem. So I reverted to the correct record. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MichelMT (talk • contribs) 19:52, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

A block might be in order

Thank you for helping contain persistent vandalism to Heidi Heitkamp. The page has been continuously vandalised a grand total of 5 times today, through 2 IPs and one registered user. It might be time to protect the page and block this vandal. Best, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 22:53, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

MichelMT's edits are not vandalism and he did post on the article talk page. You can respond there. Jonathunder (talk) 23:56, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Have you gone through the text? It is clearly non-neutral and synth, per your own revert earlier, not to mention coatrack. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 01:15, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

It's all those things, but it's not vandalism. A vandal is trying to make Wikipedia worse. This is not that. The difference is important. Jonathunder (talk) 02:23, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

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Regarding the notification you left on my talk page, you invited me to contact you if I have questions, and I do. In your message, sanctions are described as being imposed for "edits relating to the topic that do not adhere to" and 3 criteria:

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Could you clarify further which of these you are warning me about? Would it be possible for you to use Special:Diff to tell me what edits you are upset about? Your reply at Talk:People_v._Turner#Alcohol_brand_names levied accusations of OR/SYNTH but I do not understand the merits of those accusations in relation to my edits. I have included no OR here, I only include statements I find in reliable sources. I also do not include synthesis. I understand these concepts and how they are not a good basis for introducing statements. Ranze (talk) 18:50, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

The notice is a required template to let editors know about the possibility of discretionary sanctions being applied. It does not imply anything more than it says. However, I would strongly encourage you to read the entire WP:OR policy page before editing further on BLP articles and talk pages. Jonathunder (talk) 18:56, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Revdel request

Hi there. Thanks for blocking Alton Sterling for that nasty vandalism. Can you do me a favor and revdel these edits? [1] and [2]? I don't want them visible even though they were generated to report that editor. Thanks. —Torchiest ^talk_edits 17:52, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Vandalism

I had an edit conflict trying to leave a warning on the talk page of Desouzavalor--I assumed when I saw your warning we were responding to the same edits, but it turns out Desouzavalor has been busy in the past few minutes.

See theis diff: [3] and these from an IP account minutes earlier, making the same changes: [4] and [5].

I left a milder warning on the IP account, which was deleted, as was your warning on the registered account. Thanks for any help you can provide. Cheers! Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 07:28, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Update--The registered account is already blocked, but apparently not the IP account. Grand'mere Eugene (talk)

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Lodge Zare Zapadu and NRHP infoboxes etc

Lodge Zare Zapadu No. 44

Hi, thanks for contributing the photo and starting the article on Lodge Zare Zapadu No. 44. I happened to notice it because some new link brought me to the Zapadni Ceska Bratrska Jednota article. It is 100% fine to create the infobox in the article as you did (perhaps by editing an infobox copy-pasted from another article?), but I wonder if you know about the NRHP infobox generator available at http://elkman.net/nrhp/infobox.php? It can make it easier to get started; it includes some categories and stuff that add to what you put in already. Probably you know about it and that it is covered at wp:NRHPhelp. Anyhow, I added your pic to the ZCBJ article and also I am adding the NRHP nomination document reference to your article. I added a bit to its content too. Keep up the good work! cheers, --doncram 21:22, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Reads Landing School

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Jonathunder, it's been over two weeks since this was posted, and you still have not provided a QPQ review. Please do so soon. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:01, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

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@BlueMoonset: I completed this review. Jonathunder (talk) 16:53, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Jonathunder, you need to post that fact to the nomination page. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:28, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

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Terrace Theatre (Minnesota)

Hi Jonathunder, as I've said, I'm a new user and trying to learn my way around. Just hoping to do my best to represent the Terrace Theatre accurately. I hope to do more edits but I seem to be locked out at the moment. I can't tell if my most recent edits went through or not. I just wrote to Fuhggetaboutit and said I seem to be locked out but I will check back in later. Thank you. KIRTIS (talk) 17:32, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

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Please evaluate my draft for Joel McDonald

Here it is. List of references now increased to 42, which is much more impressive than the sloppy 3 from the deleted copy.

Joel's page has been deleted two times in the past, but that is only because he wasn't especially notable at the time. A couple of years later, he has garnered a lot of main roles as a voice actor as well as rising up the ladder in terms of being a more competent ADR director than when he first started. Apparently, Joel is now notable enough to even prompt Anime News Network to mention him welcoming his newborn kid.

Things may well have changed since the AfD in 2011 and you certainly have a large number of references, but I'm not sure about the quality of those. Let me look into it a bit. Jonathunder (talk) 01:28, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! Please let me know if there's anything I could change to make it even better. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 10:17, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

You have many trivial mentions in low-quality sources. (Too many: discard the Twitter, for example.) Can you find better sources, like an in-depth profile or things that aren't fan news? Jonathunder (talk) 14:35, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

One of the sources is from Twitter because it is reliable information from Joel's coworker, who is working on the same show (Yuri on Ice). Spreading misinformation is unprofessional for professional voice actors. Which of the sources are fan news again, if you don't mind pinpointing? --Sk8erPrince (talk) 15:47, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. Jonathunder (talk) 00:51, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

I've looked at my sources again. At least 70% of the sources are guaranteed to be reliable, since they're from Crunchyroll and ANN's news section, which are noted to be trustworthy by members of the Anime Project. The remaining 30% are reliable as well, since it's a reviewer's job to correctly identify the cast and crew members of whatever show they're reviewing. Con profiles on voice actors are absolutely sure on the info they post, since they want con goers to know of the voice actor's work. In any case, I believe that the page is now ready for publication. The only problem is, there is currently a restriction that prevents anyone but an admin from moving Joel's article into the mainspace, so I'd like to request that restriction be lifted. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 05:12, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

The twitter sources aren't reliable at all, and the fancon ones are no good either, they are essentially just press releases, they are both primary sources. --Adam in MO Talk 04:04, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

I don't think you've clearly looked into what is actually entailed in those Twitter sources. You just marked them off as unreliable just because they're from Twitter. However, you did not consider that one of the tweets is from Joel's coworker, Apphia Yu, and the other is from Funimation's official Twitter account. You're talking about reliability here, yes? Those con websites could provide useful. All the sources I've listed are reliable and verified. Don't you think Joel would correct them if they spread misinformation? In any case, I do believe that the article is now ready to be reincluded in the mainspace; I just need an admin's approval first due to reasons listed above. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 04:51, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Self-published sources like [[wp:Twitter|] can only be used as sources of statements about the author, not a third party. So what if that guy works with him, we only used reliable third-party sources. Blp articles must have the strictest of sources for legal reasons. The weakness of the sourcing in that article will surly cause it to fail to be put in the main space.--Adam in MO Talk 09:10, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

I get the feeling that you don't know which sources are usually used in a bio regarding anime voice actors. If you're seriously doubting the verifiability of Joel's coworker, then I'll throw in something the ADR director of Yuri on Ice, Sonny Strait posted on Facebook. And if you still doubt that, then I'm sorry, you're just being paranoid. You also seem to be disregarding of the fact that if pro voice actors and directors spread false info on the web, that will damage their credibility and rep. I'm a contributor, alright? The last thing I want to do is spread false info on our encyclopedia. In any case, additional citation added. --Sk8erPrince (talk) 09:29, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

It doesn't really matter how much faith you have in those statements, social media is not considered a reliable source here. I'm not paranoid (which doesn't seem to apply here anyway), I just don't have the naiveté it requires to believe performers at their word on social media. Are you reading the links to the social media policy and reliable sourcing? This really isn't a matter of discussion. Twitter and Facebook are not reliable sources. I'll not be responding to this thread unless pinged. If you don't understand why self published sources are unreliable there isn't anything I can say to change your mind. Good day, friend. --Adam in MO Talk 09:48, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

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