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Amy Wechsler

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The subject of this article has not itself received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Also, it has been tagged as non-notable for nearly two years. --2604:2000:E016:A700:951:D485:DE63:C416 (talk)

Note: the above rationale has been copypasted from the article's talkpage to complete the IP editor's nomination. GermanJoe (talk) 17:58, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. GermanJoe (talk) 18:02, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

delete celebrity doctor wannabe. WP cannot be part of their efforts when they fail GNG like this person does. Jytdog (talk) 23:57, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Weak ~~keep~~ delete — This subject is problematic because she has been extensively quoted in reliable media (14 NYT mentions, for example) but no major coverage about her. NYT also carried an obit that appeared to be about her father, a New Jersey budget official; and Wall Street Journal has mentioned her in connection with her being appointed to the governig board of Valeant in a corporate shakeup; but everything else that turned up in searches was quoting her expertise, or interviewing her, so not technically an independent source. There is also a Duke University interview with her on her experiences at Duke as a Jewish student. She probably would qualify as a celebrity doctor, having the endorsements of Dr. Oz, Oprah and Seventeen Magazine, but the problem is lack of secondary sources about her. I lean toward keeping it because she is the author of a popular book, The Mind Beauty Connection, and I think there is enough to support at least a revised stub/start article. I also think this subject is more of interest to female readers, not so much to our 85 to 90% male editors... Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 19:19, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Changed my mind after a more thorough search for reviews of her book — no independent RS there, either. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 20:47, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete - I see zero significant coverage about the subject. There must be hundreds of skin doctors in New York City, with dozens of associated dermatologists at Columbia Presbyterian and 36 clinical dermatologists at Mount Sinai alone. She's academically unknown. I admit that she might pass as a celebrity per WP:GNG, but I'd like to see better sourcing added to the article before I go along with such a consensus. Bearian (talk) 17:22, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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 :<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Medicine|list of Medicine-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:GermanJoe|GermanJoe]] ([[User talk:GermanJoe|talk]]) 18:02, 30 December 2016 (UTC)</small>
 *'''delete''' [[celebrity doctor]] wannabe.  WP cannot be part of their efforts when they fail GNG like this person does. [[User:Jytdog|Jytdog]] ([[User talk:Jytdog|talk]]) 23:57, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
-*'''Weak keep''' — This subject is problematic because she has been extensively quoted in reliable media (14 NYT mentions, for example) but no major coverage ''about'' her. NYT also carried an obit that appeared to be about her father, a New Jersey budget official; and ''Wall Street Journal'' has mentioned her in connection with her being appointed to the governig board of Valeant in a corporate shakeup; but everything else that turned up in searches was quoting her expertise, or interviewing her, so not technically an independent source. There is also a [https://studentaffairs.duke.edu/blog-entry/alumni-spotlight-dr-amy-wechsler-t91 Duke University interview] with her on her experiences at Duke as a Jewish student. She probably would qualify as a celebrity doctor, having the endorsements of [http://www.doctoroz.com/audio/interview-dr-amy-weschsler Dr. Oz], [http://www.oprah.com/style/9-Day-Skin-Renewal-Plan Oprah] and [http://www.seventeen.com/beauty/makeup-skincare/news/a7220/amy-wechsler-answers-skin-care-questions/ ''Seventeen Magazine''], but the problem is lack of secondary sources about her. I lean toward keeping it because she is the author of a popular book, ''The Mind Beauty Connection'', and I think there is enough to support at least a revised stub/start article. I also think this subject is more of interest to female readers, not so much to our 85 to 90% male editors... Cheers! — [[User:Grand&#39;mere Eugene|Grand&#39;mere Eugene]] ([[User talk:Grand&#39;mere Eugene|talk]]) 19:19, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
+*'''Weak <s>keep</s> delete''' — This subject is problematic because she has been extensively quoted in reliable media (14 NYT mentions, for example) but no major coverage ''about'' her. NYT also carried an obit that appeared to be about her father, a New Jersey budget official; and ''Wall Street Journal'' has mentioned her in connection with her being appointed to the governig board of Valeant in a corporate shakeup; but everything else that turned up in searches was quoting her expertise, or interviewing her, so not technically an independent source. There is also a [https://studentaffairs.duke.edu/blog-entry/alumni-spotlight-dr-amy-wechsler-t91 Duke University interview] with her on her experiences at Duke as a Jewish student. She probably would qualify as a celebrity doctor, having the endorsements of [http://www.doctoroz.com/audio/interview-dr-amy-weschsler Dr. Oz], [http://www.oprah.com/style/9-Day-Skin-Renewal-Plan Oprah] and [http://www.seventeen.com/beauty/makeup-skincare/news/a7220/amy-wechsler-answers-skin-care-questions/ ''Seventeen Magazine''], but the problem is lack of secondary sources about her. I lean toward keeping it because she is the author of a popular book, ''The Mind Beauty Connection'', and I think there is enough to support at least a revised stub/start article. I also think this subject is more of interest to female readers, not so much to our 85 to 90% male editors... Cheers! — [[User:Grand&#39;mere Eugene|Grand&#39;mere Eugene]] ([[User talk:Grand&#39;mere Eugene|talk]]) 19:19, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
+::'''Comment''' - Changed my mind after a more thorough search for reviews of her book  — no independent RS there, either. — [[User:Grand&#39;mere Eugene|Grand&#39;mere Eugene]] ([[User talk:Grand&#39;mere Eugene|talk]]) 20:47, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 *'''Weak delete''' - I see zero [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage about the subject]]. There must be [[WP:MILL|hundreds of skin doctors in New York City]], with [http://dermatology.columbia.edu/physicians/voluntary_faculty.html dozens of associated dermatologists at Columbia Presbyterian] and [http://www.mountsinai.org/patient-care/service-areas/dermatology/doctors 36 clinical dermatologists at Mount Sinai alone]. She's [[WP:PROF|academically unknown]]. I admit that she might pass as a celebrity per [[WP:GNG]], but I'd like to see better sourcing added to the article before I go along with such a consensus. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian|talk]]) 17:22, 3 January 2017 (UTC)