Template talk:Db-meta

Do we need db-p1?

Moved to Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Do we need db-p1?

Broken button on {{Db-g12}} - "Contest this speedy deletion" doesn't put a hold on the speedy deletion.

The {{Db-g12}} template prominently displays a button, "Contest this speedy deletion" that doesn't work as I would expect. I expect that when I click it because I think "a page does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion", clicking should, among other things, "remove this notice". It doesn't do so. It should do so. After all the template instructs me: If I think "a page does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion", I should "remove this notice"! Agreed? IIRC, similar templates work or worked that way. Suggestions/help?--Elvey^(t•c) 01:08, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

No, you don't recall correctly. The button's meant for the page creator, who's forbidden from removing speedy deletion templates (with a couple trivial exceptions, like {{db-g7}}.) If it's not a page you created you should, as the instructions say, remove that notice, not click on the button. —Cryptic 01:18, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Ok. I see that now. Thanks for correcting me. The formatting of the page is poor; IMO the "Contest this speedy deletion" link should merely appear inline, in the sentence directed at creators.--Elvey^(t•c) 06:14, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

@Elvey: It's intentionally prominent, that's why it's not inline. The button was added in this edit, prior to which people were avised to use the {{hang on}} template, like this. Much less noticeable, and indeed, often misused.

The action of the button is to start a new section on the talk page. It has a section heading "Contested deletion" and pre-filled text "This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --~~~~" which the user is expected to amend (sensibly) and save. When admins find a page in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion, they should check the talk page before deletion, to see if there are any valid posts that might make the speedy template inapplicable. For example, if a page in article space gets tagged {{db-short}} just a few minutes after creation, the creator might use the button to say "This page should not be speedily deleted because I am working on an offline draft which I am just about to paste in." --Redrose64 (talk) 08:35, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Yes, admins need to check but are they consistently instructed to? Not so much. Were that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Procedure_for_administrators made it clear that the talk page needed to be checked. At least it touches on the idea. I don't see the instructions in the template or at Category:Candidates for speedy deletion doing even that. But if that's the way folks like it, so be it.--Elvey^(t•c) 10:08, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

The instructions show up in prominent green lettering on the template when the talk page exists. It's kind of hard to miss. (Though it occurs to me to wonder how it looks to the colorblind.) —Cryptic 10:21, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

True. --Elvey^(t•c) 17:11, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 October 2016

please change {{{rationale}}} to User's rationale: "{{{1}}}. because

1. better grammar
2. easier usage

95.49.124.30 (talk) 10:33, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Not done for 2 reasons. 1. {{Db-meta}} colors the entire |rationale= as red; this template calls it passing |rationale=. By including the prefix "User's rationale", it would be colored red too, and I don't think that's the intended effect. 2. Your suggested change is considered "breaking", because it would no longer support |rationale= which has been part of the template for a while now. — Andy W. (talk) 15:47, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Help=off

Why do we have the "help=off" parameter? I find it unhelpful when I am looking at articles to speedily delete at CAT:CSD, and the article creator hasn't been notified. Using the "help=off" parameter is like saying, "I didn't notify the article creator that I nominated this page for speedy deletion, and I want to make it more difficult than normal for anyone else to do so, too." --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:13, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 January 2017 for Template:db-G13

This template presently says This applies to all pages that contain an Articles for Creation template or are located in the Draft namespace. Per WP:G13, G13 does not apply to pages in draftspace that don't carry a AfC template, which is contrary to what is stated in the template. Per policy, the itaclised text should be changed to This applies to pages that contain an Articles for Creation template, in draft namespace or userspace. 103.6.159.76 (talk) 11:33, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Note: This template is template protected and not semi-protected. I'll change the template for you. st170e 11:39, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

edit request is not for db-meta, but for db-g13 which is semi'd only. so I changed back to the old template. 103.6.159.76 (talk) 14:57, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Done Hi, my apologies I didn't realise that the G13 template redirected to here. In that case, I've now performed this edit. Thanks for your contribution. All the best, st170e 15:26, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 5 January 2017

Suraj Kumar (talk) 16:10, 5 January 2017 (UTC)