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:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/People|list of People-related deletion discussions]]. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;">[[User:General Ization|<font color="#006633">General <i>Ization</i></font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:General Ization|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 14:01, 14 February 2017 (UTC)</small>
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/People|list of People-related deletion discussions]]. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;">[[User:General Ization|<font color="#006633">General <i>Ization</i></font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:General Ization|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 14:01, 14 February 2017 (UTC)</small>
*'''Comment''' Though the subject has been named as [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22Sidd+Bikkannavar%22 a co-author of several scientific papers] in the course of his work at NASA, there is no evidence he meets the special requirements for academics at [[WP:NACADEMIC]]. Also, the subject is essentially a self-identified "victim", albeit in a well-publicized and notable incident that received national coverage. We do not as a rule create articles for individual ''victims'' of crime and/or terrorism, much less an administrative detention at an airport. His role in the larger incident is minor and unlikely to receive additional coverage, other than his experience being used as an example of the potential overreach of the Executive Order. At the very most (and I would not support it), this could be a redirect to the article on the Executive Order. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;">[[User:General Ization|<font color="#006633">General <i>Ization</i></font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:General Ization|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 15:32, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Though the subject has been named as [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22Sidd+Bikkannavar%22 a co-author of several scientific papers] in the course of his work at NASA, there is no evidence he meets the special requirements for academics at [[WP:NACADEMIC]]. Also, the subject is essentially a self-identified "victim", albeit in a well-publicized and notable incident that received national coverage. We do not as a rule create articles for individual ''victims'' of crime and/or terrorism, much less an administrative detention at an airport. His role in the larger incident is minor and unlikely to receive additional coverage, other than his experience being used as an example of the potential overreach of the Executive Order. At the very most (and I would not support it), this could be a redirect to the article on the Executive Order. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;">[[User:General Ization|<font color="#006633">General <i>Ization</i></font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:General Ization|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 15:32, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
* I propose that [[User:‎Graeme Bartlett]] put it perfectly in his edit sum, ''declined A7 delete, this person is mentioned on many news sites''. [https://www.cnn.com/cnn/2017/02/13/us/citizen-nasa-engineer-detained-at-border-trnd/index.html Here's a pretty big one.] This is a bigger deal than the typical wrongful detention because here we have a US citizen who is a government agency scientist, who has never been to any country on the list, not only detained but illegally required as well to unlock a government-owned phone. It is additionally possible to find notability materials for this guy predating this occurrence due to his research activities and his solar racing (by the way it boggles my mind that we've no page on [[solar racing]]). I don't have the time right now, but they're there to be found. [[User:Pandeist|Pandeist]] ([[User talk:Pandeist|talk]]) 15:38, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' I propose that [[User:‎Graeme Bartlett]] put it perfectly in his edit sum, ''declined A7 delete, this person is mentioned on many news sites''. [https://www.cnn.com/cnn/2017/02/13/us/citizen-nasa-engineer-detained-at-border-trnd/index.html Here's a pretty big one.] This is a bigger deal than the typical wrongful detention because here we have a US citizen who is a government agency scientist, who has never been to any country on the list, not only detained but illegally required as well to unlock a government-owned phone. It is additionally possible to find notability materials for this guy predating this occurrence due to his research activities and his solar racing (by the way it boggles my mind that we've no page on [[solar racing]]). I don't have the time right now, but they're there to be found. [[User:Pandeist|Pandeist]] ([[User talk:Pandeist|talk]]) 15:38, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
::Please note that the standards for speedy delete under [[WP:A7|criterion A7]] are different than the standards for retention of an article at AfD. As I said above, his case is "interesting", but having an interesting experience does not equate to notability. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;">[[User:General Ization|<font color="#006633">General <i>Ization</i></font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:General Ization|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 15:42, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
::Please note that the standards for speedy delete under [[WP:A7|criterion A7]] are different than the standards for retention of an article at AfD. As I said above, his case is "interesting", but having an interesting experience does not equate to notability. Also, I have taken the liberty of adding "Keep" to your comments as I assume that's what you're advocating. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;">[[User:General Ization|<font color="#006633">General <i>Ization</i></font>]]</span> <sup>''[[User talk:General Ization|<font color="#000666">Talk </font>]] ''</sup> 15:42, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

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Fails WP:GNG and runs afoul of WP:BLP1E. Only claim of notability is his Facebook post detailing his experience as a temporary detainee by United States Customs & Border Protection (CBP) officials due to Executive Order 13769, and even that cannot be independently verified. Hundreds if not thousands of people were detained, some of them wrongly, and while his case is interesting it does not meet notability standards for a standalone Wikipedia article. General Ization Talk 13:41, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. General Ization Talk 13:59, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. General Ization Talk 13:59, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. General Ization Talk 14:01, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Though the subject has been named as a co-author of several scientific papers in the course of his work at NASA, there is no evidence he meets the special requirements for academics at WP:NACADEMIC. Also, the subject is essentially a self-identified "victim", albeit in a well-publicized and notable incident that received national coverage. We do not as a rule create articles for individual victims of crime and/or terrorism, much less an administrative detention at an airport. His role in the larger incident is minor and unlikely to receive additional coverage, other than his experience being used as an example of the potential overreach of the Executive Order. At the very most (and I would not support it), this could be a redirect to the article on the Executive Order. General Ization Talk 15:32, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I propose that User:‎Graeme Bartlett put it perfectly in his edit sum, declined A7 delete, this person is mentioned on many news sites. Here's a pretty big one. This is a bigger deal than the typical wrongful detention because here we have a US citizen who is a government agency scientist, who has never been to any country on the list, not only detained but illegally required as well to unlock a government-owned phone. It is additionally possible to find notability materials for this guy predating this occurrence due to his research activities and his solar racing (by the way it boggles my mind that we've no page on solar racing). I don't have the time right now, but they're there to be found. Pandeist (talk) 15:38, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Please note that the standards for speedy delete under criterion A7 are different than the standards for retention of an article at AfD. As I said above, his case is "interesting", but having an interesting experience does not equate to notability. Also, I have taken the liberty of adding "Keep" to your comments as I assume that's what you're advocating. General Ization Talk 15:42, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]