Talk:La La Land

Excessive Plot Description

The plot section was flagged as being excessively detailed. I removed ~1.5K characters to address this and then removed the flag. Bellagio99 undid my work, but failed to reinstate the flag. I've restored the flag. I was not the original person who flagged this article, but I do agree with it being flagged. The description is far too detailed.

Some examples are: speculating about the reasons for an audition failure "possibly because her outfit is stained by a coffee spill from a customer at work"; including the details of a specific song request "the band to play "I Ran (So Far Away)" by A Flock of Seagulls"; and including specific details about a later audition: "unlike previous "cattle call" tryouts Mia experienced, she is simply asked to tell a story for her audition".Contributor tom (talk) 10:48, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Agree that the Plot Summary is too long and detailed.Parkwells (talk) 19:25, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Lyricist Credit

Should this be included? See, for example, An American in Paris (film), where a lyrics credit is given in the boxed section. My understanding is that major credits are generally listed in the boxed section if they were similarly broken out as titled credits in the film itself (which is the case with La La Land where the music and lyrics credits appear together on screen). What is the wiki standard for this? I've placed a query in the film template talk page. Contributor tom (talk) 19:35, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

An An American in Paris (film) is a rare exception. Most musicals reserve the "music" credit in the infobox just for the music composer. See The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King, Enchanted, The Umbrellas of Cherbourg, The Young Girls of Rochefort, etc. Brilsonsilson (talk) 20:24, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

You appear to be correct. Unless the people maintaining the film template disagree, let's leave it out. I do agree that "Lyrics by" shouldn't be put under "Music by" as a sub-entry in the boxed section. Whether lyrics should or should not get a separate entry in the boxed section isn't as clear. The general guideline in the template section is to match the main title credits of the film. So, for example, if the film lists "Music by" in the main credits and only lists "Lyrics by" in the end credits crawl, then "Lyrics by" should not be in the boxed section. On the other hand, as is the case with La La Land, this would indicate that when both "Music by" and "Lyrics by" receive main credit status there should be two separate entries in the boxed section. I'll wait until more people weigh in on the general template before doing anything since, as you point out, this hasn't been done for many films. Contributor tom (talk) 14:20, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Link to disambiguation page?

Considering that the movie was recently released and is very popular, should there be a link on this page to disambiguation yet? I have no idea what the consensus is on this, but I thought that it might be an intentional omission. The disambiguation page is the same URL without the final "_(film)". ~ RETheUgly RETheUgly (talk) 14:21, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

If you haven't heard of cliche overload, this is it - Kind of hard to believe it won Golden Globe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.96.162.214 (talk) 14:41, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Casting

This has way too much Hollywood info about people who weren't cast and maybe too much about those who were. I suggest that content of the following paragraph (see below) be applied to the individuals mentioned, rather than being included here. It really doesn't belong here. It is also very "fan magazine" and gossipy in tone, with quoted comments by the players. Also the article already noted in Pre-Production (also very lengthy) that Teller and Watson were originally considered for this film. That does not need to be repeated.Parkwells (talk) 19:35, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

<<During the pre-production phase, Miles Teller and Emma Watson were both initially set to star as the leads. However, both stars dropped out, with the former reportedly related to scheduling and pay, and the latter over a commitment to the 2017 adaptation of Beauty and the Beast. Chazelle had offered Teller the lead role when the two were in the midst of filming Whiplash in 2013. He passed up the chance to star in War Dogs, because the film would have conflicted with the schedule for La La Land. (He did later star in that film). One day, Teller's agent called him to say that Chazelle had told Lionsgate that he no longer thought Teller was "creatively right for the project," and that the director was moving on without him. Teller said he texted Chazelle, saying "what the fuck, bro?" Chazelle told him that "the casting of this movie during the six years it took to get made went through lots of permutations," and it was "part of the up and down of this movie: that we were about to make it, we were about to not make it, about to make it, about to not make it." The Hollywood Reporter said that Teller's was dropped due to his $4 million pay demand. However, Teller later rebuffed this claim, saying, "these publications print things so people read their article and then they say an 'unnamed source said this'. All that's bullshit.">>

Agree. Also, the "reportedly" phrase is an unconfirmed claim, i.e. rumor, and should go out. --Tenebrae (talk) 19:57, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Plot Ending

1) May want to edit the verbiage of the ending, offering specific meaning to the two main characters' last knowing look and smile, as it suggests they simply are proud of each other's achievements. While it is implied, (and while I know this is not the best linkable source), the meaning as stated by members of the music production team is closer to them acknowledging their past and accepting what is now.

2) May want to include verbiage to convey the message that the two main characters are both visibly unsettled at seeing each other (Mia having married another man by now). As it reads right now, the ending looks like they ran through the "what-if" scenario in their heads and simply parted ways, happy for each other's success. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.184.205.221 (talk) 07:08, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Added "looking unsettled and regretful" to the ending as a succinct way of trying to address this issue. Contributor tom (talk) 09:03, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Being that La La Land is a musical drama, I think that the "Music" subcategory is very underrepresented compared to other subcategories, for example: "Box Office". Naomi Forbes (talk) 20:01, 7 February 2017 (UTC) Naomi Forbes

I think that the organization of the subcategories are unorganized. (i.e. "Cast", "Production", and "Casting" --> "Cast", "Casting", and "Production") Naomi Forbes (talk) 20:05, 7 February 2017 (UTC) Naomi Forbes

Typo Bug

"Ryan Gosling plays Sebastian, a jazz pianist who makes a living by playing cocktail party gigs in dingy bars, and has dreams of opening his own club.[13] Like Stone, Gosling drew from his own experiences as an aspiring artist. One incident was used for Mia. Gosling was performing a crying scene in an audition and the casting director took a phone call during it, talking about her lunch plans while he was emoting.[13][17][20] Chazelle met with Gosling at a bar near the latter's home in Hollywood Hills, when Gosling was about to begin filming for The Big Short.[7]"

You mean Stone is performing the crying scene. Not Gosling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.68.197.6 (talk) 13:36, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Additions to Reception

Can someone please add a Top of the Year list of various newspapers which included La la land in their lists. Abmangr (talk) 06:50, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

That goes against WikiProject Film consensus. Please see the Manual of Style at WP:FILMMOS. --Tenebrae (talk) 20:31, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

This is solely for bragging, and is most likely off topic

BUT I WAS THE FIRST ONE TO CHANGE "7" TO "6" ON THIS PAGE AND IT SATISFIES AN ITCH I'VE HAD SINCE POSTING "FIRST COMMENT" ON A YOUTUBE VIDEO WAS STILL A THING. Rejewskifan (talk) 05:19, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

WIKIPEDIA IS NOT NEWS. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF.--Jack Upland (talk) 05:22, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Wow, wow, calm down. Please cite the source I guess. Tiger7890 (talk) 05:24, 27 February 2017 (UTC)