User talk:DrMel

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I saw what you did, there. Publicola 20:31, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Class project - teaching undergrads to edit wikipedia for the first time

I've been very grateful for the opportunity to work with Dr. Tricia King-Stargel, experimenting with including wikipedia editing as a course requirement in one criminal justice class in Spring '09, and again in a different class in Fall '09. Student response was enthusiastic - while all had used wikipedia as a resource in the past, only 1 or 2 had ever edited before. Many were confused because so many of their other professors had previously talked about wikipedia in derogatory terms, continuing to support the assumption that wikipedia articles are far more likely to contain misleading errors than other sources.

Our first try last spring went awkwardly. The second try seemed more cohesive: we asked students to find at least one article describing a term they were learning about in class and one article describing a famous criminal justice case they were studying which contained an example of this term. Then, part of their research project assignment was to edit those two wikipedia pages, referencing the example on the page for the term, and referencing the term on the page for the big case. One example we used was John George Haigh who had mistakenly believed ''corpus delicti'' (aka "body of evidence") meant that if he could destroy victims' bodies (which he did), he couldn't be found guilty of murder because there were no bodies as evidence of murder. Luckily he was wrong, and was convicted even without the bodies.

Some of the articles our students have worked on include DNA profiling, Psychological profiling, Groupthink, Masters of Deception, Robert Lee Yates, and Jeffrey Dahmer. We got them to report on their work using SurveyMonkey.

I have to confess (please forgive the pun!) that when I first imagined getting students to start editing wikipedia as part of their research dissemination requirements, I hadn't expected serial killers to be one of the areas we were going to be working to improve...

I'm very very grateful for feeling like it was safe to try this, and appreciate all the supportive comments and patience of editors like DreamGuy! I am planning to write up the methods we've developed so far (making it a requirement for every research paper), and try to get other educators to try it out. Hoping to write up the technique and recommend it to other educators. I would welcome hearing from anyone else who is open to trying this or has ideas for how to improve on it.

Hi. I saw your post on my talk page and that of the serial killer article talk page. I'd encourage you to go fill out an entry for this project on Wikipedia:School and university projects just to let people know about it in case questions come up later. The pages your students are editing can also have the talk page labeled with a template there that links to details on the project so editors on those articles can readily see what is going on and be especially careful. I'm happy to encourage anyone who wants to get more college students involved in Wikipedia, and I think many of the edits contributed will be very helpful in the long run, once other editors here get a handle on the extent of the changes and work with them. DreamGuy (talk) 13:50, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I would also like to welcome you and your students. I was coming by to welcome you but DreamGuy beat me to it. :) I hope you and your students find this project enjoyable. I've been watching the page Serial killer but I haven't gone through the article to look at the sources and so forth. I look forward to rereading the article and looking at the sources. It was interesting to watch the edits being done with references included. Thanks and Happy Editing. If you need any help please do not hesitate.--CrohnieGal^Talk 15:22, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to WP:FILMS

Welcome!

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A few features that you might find helpful:

• Most of our important discussions about the project itself and its related articles take place on the project's main discussion page; it is highly recommended that you watchlist it.

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There is a variety of interesting things to do within the project; you're free to participate however much—or little—you like:

• Want to jump right into editing? The style guidelines show things you should include.
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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask another fellow member, and we'll be happy to help you. Again, welcome! We look forward to seeing you around! Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 02:06, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

To Catch A Dollar

I've left you some comments on the talk page of the To Catch A Dollar article. Sorry if I come across as being really harsh, it just a lot of nitpicking really. Overall, for your first article, it is pretty good.

Another thing. Your signature needs to be fixed. I believe using "DrMel" is fine, but signatures must include at least one internal link to your user page, user talk page, or contributions page. Having no links makes it really difficult to contact you (especially since your signature is different from your username). If you need help fixing your signature, see WP:FIXSIG. - Kollision (talk) 08:13, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Checklist & TCAD

Dr. Melissa, thanks for contacting me on my talk page about the Checklist article. I left an answer over there.

I read your To Catch a Dollar article, and recognized the subject instantly, since that is another interest that we share. I had read about Grameen Bank before and was very impressed with the thoughtful social and financial innovation of it and its founder, Mohammed Yunus.

I look forward to working with you on subjects like this. One small technical note - I moved the article to To Catch a Dollar, removed the orphan tag, and added a few links here and there, like any good WikiGnome would do! Spalding (talk) 16:03, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Usurpation of DrMel account

Well, it doesn't seem like you fully completed the process at Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations. Under Instructions, you seem to have only done the first two steps. You need to continue from the "Click here to place your request." link onwards. Kollision (talk) 03:57, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Gangnam Style pistachio ad

I posted a response to your query on the pistachio ad. Hope it helps! :) AngusWOOF (talk) 23:23, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Unforgetting L.A. edit-a-thon on September 6

Unforgetting L.A. edit-a-thon: Saturday, September 6 from 11am to 4pm

Dear fellow Wikipedian, You are invited to meet up with online magazine East of Borneo for an edit-a-thon to build a better history of art in Southern California. This next event in their Unforgetting L.A. series will take place on Saturday, September 6, 2014 from 11am - 4pm at the Armory Center for the Arts in Pasadena (map). Beginners welcome! Please RSVP here if you plan to attend. For more info, see eastofborneo.org/unforgetting. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:39, 20 August 2014 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

L.A. Meetup on September 21

The 20th Los Angeles meetup: Sunday, September 21 from 11am to 4pm

Dear fellow Wikipedian, Join us on Sunday, September 21, from 11am to 4pm at Kramer Studio in Mid-City (map) for a meetup and edit-a-thon! Get to know the Los Angeles Wikipedia community and do some editing (or learn to edit!) in a collaborative environment. Please RSVP and consider becoming a member of the SoCal task force to help us improve articles about everything in the region. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:00, 27 August 2014 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

L.A. events on October 7 and 16

Upcoming L.A. events: Wik-Ed Women edit-a-thon (10/7, 6-10pm) and UCR edit-a-thon (10/16, 10am-4pm)

Dear fellow Wikipedian, The Southern California Wikipedia community has two exciting events coming up in the next few weeks: a Wik-Ed Women editing session downtown designed to combat systemic bias, and a Wikipedia Loves Libraries event at UC Riverside! Wik-Ed Women is a new monthly series of informal Wikipedia editing sessions for Los Angeles women-in-the-arts (though all are welcome) to contribute their expertise to Wikipedia, specifically expanding content about women artists. This second session will take place on Tuesday, October 7 from 6pm to 10pm at the Los Angeles Contemporary Archive downtown. Please RSVP here if you plan to attend. The UC Riverside Wikipedia Loves Libraries event is an edit-a-thon targeting articles related to UC Riverside, SoCal, and beyond. Join students and faculty learning how to edit! This event will take place on Thursday, October 16 from 10am to 4pm at UCR's Tomás Rivera Library. Again, RSVPs are requested here. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:47, 29 September 2014 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

SoCal edit-a-thons on October 21 and 25

Upcoming SoCal edit-a-thons: UC Riverside (10/21, 10am-3pm) and Unforgetting L.A. (10/25, 9am-5pm)

Dear fellow Wikipedian, The Southern California Wikipedia community has two more events scheduled for the month of October: a water-related edit-a-thon at UC Riverside, and an Unforgetting L.A. event at the Los Angeles Archives Bazaar in conjunction with L.A. as Subject! As part of Wikipedia Loves Libraries and to celebrate Open Access Week, UC Riverside is participating alongside other Western Waters Digital Library members in an edit-a-thon focusing on water issues. Join students and faculty learning how to edit! This event will take place on Tuesday, October 21 from 10am to 3pm at UCR's Orbach Science Library (map). RSVPs are requested here. The Unforgetting L.A. edit-a-thon and training workshop will take place at the 9th annual Los Angeles Archives Bazaar, and is hosted by online magazine East of Borneo in partnership with L.A. as Subject. Join us on Saturday, October 25 from 9am to 5pm at the USC Doheny Memorial Library (map). Beginners welcome! Please RSVP here if you plan to attend. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:06, 17 October 2014 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

L.A. event on November 11, and a new Facebook group

Wik-Ed Women editing session (11/11, 6-10pm), and join our new Facebook group!

Dear fellow Wikipedian, The LA Wikipedia community has a new Facebook group! Become a member to keep up to date with all of our upcoming events and to connect with local Wikipedians! In addition, we have one upcoming event: the third Wik-Ed Women editing session will take place on Tuesday, November 11 from 6pm to 10pm at the Los Angeles Contemporary Archive downtown. This series of informal get-togethers is designed to encourage Los Angeles women-in-the-arts (though all are welcome!) to contribute their expertise to Wikipedia, specifically expanding content about women artists. Please RSVP here if you plan to attend. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:20, 4 November 2014 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

L.A. event on November 11 CANCELED

Wik-Ed Women editing session CANCELED

Due to health issues affecting one of the organizers, the third Wik-Ed Women editing session (originally scheduled for Tuesday, November 11) has been canceled. We expect the series to pick up again sometime in December. Sorry for the inconvenience, and hope to see you in the near future! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:08, 7 November 2014 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

L.A. edit-a-thon this Sunday, December 14

L.A. meetup: December 14 edit-a-thon at the California African American Museum

Dear fellow Wikipedian, East of Borneo's "Unforgetting L.A." edit-a-thon series continues this weekend at the California African American Museum! Please join us this Sunday, December 14 from 11am to 4pm. Beginners welcome! You'll learn to create new articles that improve Wikipedia's coverage of African American art in Los Angeles, past and present. Please click here for full event details and to RSVP if you plan to attend. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:25, 10 December 2014 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

L.A. event on Tuesday, January 20

Wik-Ed Women editing session (1/20, 6-10pm)

Dear fellow Wikipedian, Please join us at an event this coming Tuesday: the third Wik-Ed Women editing session will take place on January 20 from 6pm to 10pm at the Los Angeles Contemporary Archive downtown. This series of informal get-togethers is designed to encourage Los Angeles women-in-the-arts (though all are welcome!) to contribute their expertise to Wikipedia, specifically expanding content about women artists. Please RSVP here if you plan to attend. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:06, 15 January 2015 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

San Diego April 2015 meetup idea

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Meetup/San Diego#April 2015. Thanks. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 06:32, 24 January 2015 (UTC)Template:Z48

LA edit-a-thons on February 14, 17, and 21

Redondo Loves Wikipedia (2/14), Wik-Ed Women (2/17), and Unforgetting LA at the Getty (2/21)!

Dear fellow Wikipedian, The LA Wikipedia community has three events in mid-February -- please consider attending! First, we have a Valentine's Day edit-a-thon appropriately named Redondo Loves Wikipedia, which will take place at the Redondo Beach Public Library from 10am to 1pm on Saturday, February 14. Join library staff, the Redondo Beach Historical Society, and others to help improve Wikipedia's coverage of Redondo Beach! Second, we have a Wik-Ed Women editing session on Tuesday, February 17 from 6pm to 10pm at the Los Angeles Contemporary Archive downtown. This series of informal get-togethers is designed to encourage Los Angeles women-in-the-arts (though all are welcome!) to contribute their expertise to Wikipedia, specifically expanding content about women artists. Third, we have an Unforgetting LA event put on by East of Borneo in collaboration with the Getty Research Institute. Come help improve Wikipedia's coverage of LA design and architecture, and have an awesome free day at the museum -- parking will be validated for edit-a-thon participants! If you'd like to use particular books from GRI's great collection, be sure to email before 2/13 (instructions at event page). And be sure to check out our main meetup page, because we already have three SoCal events scheduled for early March! I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:58, 5 February 2015 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

LA edit-a-thons on March 18 (tomorrow!) and 28

Wadewitz memorial edit-a-thon (3/18), Redondo Loves Wikipedia (3/28)

Dear fellow Wikipedian, The LA Wikipedia community has two events in this second half of March -- please consider attending! First, there is a memorial edit-a-thon in honor of the prolific LA Wikipedian Adrianne Wadewitz, which is being held downtown on March 18 (tomorrow!) from noon to 8pm as a part of the American Society for Eighteenth-Century Studies' annual conference. Please drop by to contribute your own work or teach other users how to write for Wikipedia. Second, there will be an event at the Redondo Beach Public Library (following up on last month's session), in collaboration with the Redondo Beach Historical Society. Please join us from 10am to noon on Saturday, March 28 at the main branch of the Redondo Beach Public Library! I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:40, 17 March 2015 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

5th Annual Wiknic

5th Annual Wiknic (Saturday, July 11, 2015, ~9:30am-4pm)

Dear fellow Wikipedian, You are cordinally invited to the fifth annual Los Angeles Wiknic! The Wiknic is a part of the nationwide Great American Wiknic. We'll be grilling, getting to know each other better, and building the L.A. Wikipedia community! The event is tentatively planned for Pan-Pacific Park (map) and will be held on Saturday, July 11, 2014 from 9:30am to 4pm or so. Please RSVP and volunteer to bring food or drinks if possible! I hope to see you there! Howcheng (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:40, 21 June 2015 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

Wikinic rescheduled

5th Annual Wiknic rescheduled to Saturday, July 25, 2015, ~9:30am-4pm

Due to a conflict with the Redondo Loves Wikipedia edit-a-thon, the fifth annual Los Angeles Wiknic has been rescheduled. As before, the location will be at Pan-Pacific Park (map) and will be held on Saturday, July 25, 2015 from 9:30am to 4pm or so. Please RSVP and volunteer to bring food or drinks if possible! I hope to see you there! —howcheng {chat} - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:28, 7 July 2015 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

This Thursday: Women in Architecture edit-a-thon @ Getty Center

You are invited to join the Women in Architecture edit-a-thon @ Getty Center in LA on October 15! (drop-in any time, 10am-4pm)--Pharos (talk) 18:25, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
	We are stars! Swedam (talk) 20:07, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thanks!!!

Slwsandiego (talk) 20:28, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

First Wiki meeting!!

Hi! Thank you for inviting me to today's meeting! It was exciting to actually edit wikipedia!SevJE (talk) 20:45, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Wik-Ed Women Session #5

Wik-Ed Women Session #5

Dear fellow Wikipedian, I would like to personally invite you to the March edition of the Wik-Ed Women meetup, which will take place on March 15, from 6-10 in the evening. It will occur at Los Angeles Contemporary Archive, 2245 E Washington Blvd, Los Angeles, California 90021 (downtown LA -- map). The building has a pink top with old signage for American Accessories, Inc. dba Princess Accessories (Photos [PDF]). There is on-site parking in the back, which also has an entrance. If you cannot attend in person, you are more than willing to work remotely, as we appreciate all help that you can provide. Finally, here is a link to the Facebook event, in case you want to invite friends, as we are always looking for new editors to help expand coverage of women on Wikipedia! I hope to see you there! Cosmicphantom (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 05:54, 15 March 2016 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

First Wiki Message!

Hello! I recently emailed you before, so I wanted to post a Hello message on your Talk Page.
Thank you so much for all your advice! I look forward to talking to you! --Emperno (talk) 01:14, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Thank you so much for supporting such a great cause! We need more people like you to make this world a better place! I believe - together we can make a difference! Thank you so much for including me in your team! :) AbhiSuryawanshi (talk) 19:13, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!

Hi DrMel! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission. I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.

• The Wikipedia Adventure Start Page
• The Wikipedia Adventure Lounge
• The Teahouse new editor help space
• Wikipedia Help pages

-- 20:26, Tuesday, June 14, 2016 (UTC)

Mission 1	Mission 2	Mission 3	Mission 4	Mission 5	Mission 6	Mission 7
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Advice for scientists

Thought you might be interested in my Wikipedia advice for academic researchers in the natural sciences, at User:Antony-22/Advice for scientists. Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 04:01, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

		A bottle of Maaza for you
		Here is a bottle of Maaza! Maaza is a Coca-Cola fruit drink brand marketed in India and Bangladesh, the most popular drink being the mango variety, so much that over the years, the Maaza brand has become synonymous with Mango. You were busy when I slipped away to pore over microfilm, so I didn't get a chance to thank you in person for organizing today's event. I look forward to future meetings. Thank you. Worldbruce (talk) 03:38, 26 June 2016 (UTC) For more Indian dishes, visit the Kitchen of WikiProject India.

San Diego Wiknic

Saturday, July 9: San Diego Wiknic

You are invited to the San Diego Wiknic on Saturday, July 9, from 4:00 pm to 7:00 pm in Fanuel Street Park, a grassy park on the Mission Bay side of Pacific Beach. Join San Diego-area Wikimedians at the "picnic anyone can edit" as part of the Great American Wiknic celebrations being held across the United States. Visit our event page for full details. Remember it's a wiki-picnic, which means potluck. Sign up today! We hope to see you there! --Worldbruce (talk · contribs) 16:04, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

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Invitation to participate in Wikipedia mini summer program

Greetings DrMel:

It appears you have participated in an editathon in the past. We are doing a mini research study involving past editathon participants to transform and improve Wikipedia. If this sounds like something quick you would want to do this summer, please sign up to our mini summer research program.

You can read more about our project here.

Together we can revolutionize Wikipedia!

Thanks & Cheers

Wiki crowdresearch (talk) 15:31, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to participate in Wikipedia mini summer program

Greetings DrMel:

It appears you have participated in an editathon in the past. We are doing a mini research study involving past editathon participants to transform and improve Wikipedia. If this sounds like something quick you would want to do this summer, please sign up to our mini summer research program.

You can read more about our project here.

Together we can revolutionize Wikipedia!

Thanks & Cheers

Wiki crowdresearch (talk) 16:48, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Thursday, August 4 San Diego Wiki-Dinner

Join us for an informal San Diego Wiki-Dinner meeting with visiting Wikipedians Rosiestep and Fuzheado, to get to know each other, and to help prepare for WikiConference North America in October 2016! --Pharos (talk) 17:08, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

barnstar

		The Purple Barnstar
		for your equinimity and emotional intelligence, even when not feeling the wiki-love.Slowking4♡†@1₭

Sorry our conversation got interrupted

But you had to take care of business. Hope to see you again soon. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:46, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	WikiConference North America Barnstar
	Thank you for the role you played at WikiConference North America 2016. This year's conference could not have been a success without your contributions and we hope you will continue to be involved in 2017. On behalf of WikiConference North America - Gamaliel (talk) 00:52, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!

Hi DrMel! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission. I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.

• The Wikipedia Adventure Start Page
• The Wikipedia Adventure Lounge
• The Teahouse new editor help space
• Wikipedia Help pages

-- 20:17, Sunday, December 4, 2016 (UTC)

Mission 1	Mission 2	Mission 3	Mission 4	Mission 5	Mission 6	Mission 7
Say Hello to the World	An Invitation to Earth	Small Changes, Big Impact	The Neutral Point of View	The Veil of Verifiability	The Civility Code	Looking Good Together

Get Help

About The Wikipedia Adventure | Hang out in the Interstellar Lounge

A cupcake for you!

Thank you for being so awesome! TiagoGracia (talk) 00:10, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

February 18 Wikipedia Day event in DTLA

LA Wikipedia Day Celebration (February 18)

Dear fellow Wikipedian, Please join us at our Wikipedia Day celebration at the Ace Hotel in downtown Los Angeles on Saturday, February 18, 2017 from 11 am to 5 pm! This event will feature lectures, panel discussions, lightning talks, open space discussions and collaboration, and--most importantly--cake! Please RSVP on the event page if you're thinking of joining us. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:35, 2 February 2017 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

Still so much to learn

Just fell down the rabbit hole again and stumbled across wikibreak templates: Wikibreak templates Wanted to try this one. It'd have been suitable to post last August.

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