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:::{{rto|JzG}} I agree that it got spammed with many other links, however, there are now remarks about this specific one from that set of links above (both in that thread and this thread) as to being genuine. Maybe this is one for XLinkBot? --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 12:49, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
:::{{rto|JzG}} I agree that it got spammed with many other links, however, there are now remarks about this specific one from that set of links above (both in that thread and this thread) as to being genuine. Maybe this is one for XLinkBot? --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 12:49, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
:::: EconLib is the "Library of Economics and Liberty", run by [[Liberty Fund]], a libertarian think-tank of no obvious significance. I suspect that most of the uses of this source right now are inappropriate. I removed the links from the Apartheid article. The issue is that many (most?0 of the links are to an online "encyclopaedia" of economics published by this group. It's another fisheaters. <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> <small>([[User:JzG/help|Help!]])</small> 12:57, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
:::: EconLib is the "Library of Economics and Liberty", run by [[Liberty Fund]], a libertarian think-tank of no obvious significance. I suspect that most of the uses of this source right now are inappropriate. I removed the links from the Apartheid article. The issue is that many (most?0 of the links are to an online "encyclopaedia" of economics published by this group. It's another fisheaters. <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> <small>([[User:JzG/help|Help!]])</small> 12:57, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
::::: Liberty Fund isn't really a think-tank, it's primarily a publishing house. One of the things they publish is the Concise Encyclopedia of Economics which is an excellent reference work on a wide variety of economic topics. The first edition was published in 1994 as "The Fortune Encyclopedia of Economics: 141 Top Economists Explain the Theories, Mechanics, and Institutions of Money, Trade and Markets". Later editions got more concise - including the title - but kept the general theme of being, well, an encyclopedia. The essays are indeed written by top economists, including several Nobel prizewinners. The latest print edition is 2007 but an earlier 2002 edition is online for free which is REALLY USEFUL in fleshing out economic topics...or would be if it weren't on the blacklist. Can we get this fixed? (in addition to the Concise Encyclopedia, it's also a good place to find lots of older webbed public-domain econ texts. Bastiat, Mills, Adam Smith and so on.) [[User:Blogjack|Blogjack]] ([[User talk:Blogjack|talk]]) 08:56, 29 March 2017 (UTC)


'''Comment''': econlib.org probably shouldn't be on the blacklist. It contains the full text of many classical economics texts. [[User:Jrheller1|Jrheller1]] ([[User talk:Jrheller1|talk]]) 20:58, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
'''Comment''': econlib.org probably shouldn't be on the blacklist. It contains the full text of many classical economics texts. [[User:Jrheller1|Jrheller1]] ([[User talk:Jrheller1|talk]]) 20:58, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

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    Ongoing efforts over months to years to add this link. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:50, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Concerns were previously raised[1]. So therefore added it. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:58, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]


    revitalisecosmetics.com.au

    Being spammed into a bunch of articles in replacement of valid refs; see Special:Contributions/Moefry1. Zero value as a reference for any encyclopedic content. Jytdog (talk) 04:48, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jytdog: no Declined for now, user is blocked. However, if this is now continued on other accounts, I will blacklist this immediately. --Dirk Beetstra T C 06:02, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    specificationtech.com

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    The diffs are from the past few days only, when I've kept track of them, but I know I've seen them before. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 16:44, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    plus Added MER-C 02:59, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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    maimed this report, and hit the blacklist on this link. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:30, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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    mobigyaan.com

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    Dear Administrators, I cite mobigyaan.com along with other websites once in a while whenever I feel it's worth doing that. I have been their regular reader since last few years. Today when I tried to add the link I got a message that the domain has been blacklisted, I couldn't understand why it happened as this website is an authentic news source. Requesting you to look into this and remove it from the blacklist.

    PS - Since, I haven't done this earlier I didn't know that mention of user name of necessary for the replies. I used to update without login.

    Pixel love (talk) 10:38, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Why am I not getting a reply? Pixel love (talk) 19:09, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    It was blacklisted per Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam/LinkReports/mobigyaan.com, the report shows an very unhealthy number of IPs who solely edit to add info referenced to this site (WP:REFSPAM). I am sure User:MER-C can tell more. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:15, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    That, and when I added the domain to the blacklist hardly any of those additions had survived. I certainly don't remember removing any links, and my contribution history shows I didn't remove any when I blacklisted the link. MER-C 04:34, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't about all the IPs but I made a few additions without login as I find that easy. Also, I didn't add all the references on a single day, I cited them only when I found something made sense. So, what I am understanding is that somebody tried to add too many links from some IP and got this website banned, is that the case? Pixel love 09:19, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, please reply. Pixel love 03:22, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Pixel love: You mean that you made those additions using 40 different IPs out of at least 3 IP-ranges? --Dirk Beetstra T C 06:57, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    I think that there is some confusion here. I don't know remember how many additions I made, I mentioned that I made a few additions. I didn't make a user account as I felt that it was easier to do without it. This was the first part of my answer.

    In the second questioned I asked, if posting from IP can result in ban, then isn't it easier for anybody to get any website banned.

    Also, I am a little confused about the reason of the ban. This is solely for my knowledge about the Wikipedia usage. If posting to wikipedia without login resulted in ban for this website, then I have done this for other websites as well, will those sites be banned as well? Pixel love 14:44, 09 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    No, but additions by 40 different IPs that all are practically reverted may be. I guess that you were one or two of the separate IPs. For the rest, see Joe job, and in a way it is not really our concern, our concern is to stop the disruption. --Dirk Beetstra T C
    So, this website should not be removed from the blacklist? --Pixel love 08:44, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Please reply --Pixel love 07:08, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Pixel love: there were additions by 40-ish IPs, and most of the additions were already reverted/removed .. that signifies that these additions were not wanted. We are not here to play whack-a-mole with more IPs and keep reverting such additions. If you think that it is somewhere of use, please request whitelisting of specific links with specific use ( Defer to Whitelist), but until significant use of this site is evident, indeed delisting is no Declined. --Dirk Beetstra T C 08:12, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    My point here is that may be somebody tried to play a mischief, I have been a loyal reader of them since last few years and they are one of the most authentic news source in India when it comes to technology news.I know I don't have any say here, but I just tried to put my point of view. Considering the quality of news they produce on daily basis, they shouldn't be banned. Those link which you think/know are spam should be removed for sure, but banning entire site because somebody else abused the system would be too harsh. I hope you will consider this. --Pixel love 08:55, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    What happens off-site is not our problem, the purpose of the spam blacklist is to protect Wikipedia from people adding unwanted external links. In any case, the links did not seem very wanted, most of them were already removed. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:58, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    You are saying that links are removed, but I saw this link today https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiaomi#cite_ref-63, you can also check that there is no spam here and the link was properly added. --Pixel love 12:55, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    attukaldevi.com

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    Attukaldevi.com is block listed, the site is more informative of Attukal Devi temple. I request you to visit this site and remove from spam list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.51.20.162 (talk) 09:58, February 17, 2017‎

    no Declined,  Defer to Whitelist for specific links on this domain. --Dirk Beetstra T C 08:12, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    econlib.org

    I copy a thread from WP:HD.

    Any attempt to edit Apartheid seems to be rejected. The reason given is that the article contains a new link to banned site econlib.org (or something close -- I may have gotten it wrong. The edits I have attmpted don't include anything remotely close to that. Can somebody find out what's wrong and fix it? In the See also section, I was trying to add a wikilink to Born a Crime. Lou Sander (talk) 04:31, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

    I can't explain what's going on. When I try to do the same thing (both with my non-admin sock and my main account), I get MediaWiki:Spamprotectiontext and a warning about econlib.org, even though that URL isn't in the page text. Nyttend (talk) 04:59, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
    Even weirder: I removed econlib from the spam blacklist and then tried to insert the link, and even then I got rejected because my edit added "econlib.org". Time for a Phabricator bug request? In case you wonder, I've restored the blacklist entry for econlib. Nyttend (talk) 05:03, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

    Can anyone explain what's going on? See [11] for URL removal and click "next" for restoration. JzG, you comment about that URL in a thread higher on this page; are you at all familiar with the situation? I'm not asking for "permanent" removal; I just wondered if someone more familiar with this blacklist might have a better idea than I of how to remove it temporarily to enable this edit. Nyttend (talk) 05:08, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Lou Sander: I am taking it off for now, but lets see what happens (see follow up edit). Maybe some lag-time? minus Removed from MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:12, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    econlib.org. Test edit to see whether this can now be saved. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:13, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Removing and re-adding seems to work now. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:16, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    I am removing a large number of inappropriate links to this partisan website at the moment. It was extensively spammed by a group of libertarian agenda editors. Guy (Help!) 12:00, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @JzG: I agree that it got spammed with many other links, however, there are now remarks about this specific one from that set of links above (both in that thread and this thread) as to being genuine. Maybe this is one for XLinkBot? --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:49, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    EconLib is the "Library of Economics and Liberty", run by Liberty Fund, a libertarian think-tank of no obvious significance. I suspect that most of the uses of this source right now are inappropriate. I removed the links from the Apartheid article. The issue is that many (most?0 of the links are to an online "encyclopaedia" of economics published by this group. It's another fisheaters. Guy (Help!) 12:57, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Liberty Fund isn't really a think-tank, it's primarily a publishing house. One of the things they publish is the Concise Encyclopedia of Economics which is an excellent reference work on a wide variety of economic topics. The first edition was published in 1994 as "The Fortune Encyclopedia of Economics: 141 Top Economists Explain the Theories, Mechanics, and Institutions of Money, Trade and Markets". Later editions got more concise - including the title - but kept the general theme of being, well, an encyclopedia. The essays are indeed written by top economists, including several Nobel prizewinners. The latest print edition is 2007 but an earlier 2002 edition is online for free which is REALLY USEFUL in fleshing out economic topics...or would be if it weren't on the blacklist. Can we get this fixed? (in addition to the Concise Encyclopedia, it's also a good place to find lots of older webbed public-domain econ texts. Bastiat, Mills, Adam Smith and so on.) Blogjack (talk) 08:56, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Comment: econlib.org probably shouldn't be on the blacklist. It contains the full text of many classical economics texts. Jrheller1 (talk) 20:58, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    womanitely.com

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    useful blog I think it shouldn't be on the blacklist. Many writers from the US contribute to it. Catalina520 (talk) 14:14, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Note that this is blocked on the m:Spam blacklist and user has already raised it over there. Ravensfire (talk) 18:01, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Catalina520: not blacklisted locally,  Defer to Global blacklist to request global removal (where you already raised it), or  Defer to Whitelist to ask for local whitelisting of specific links. Note that this blog was mainly spammed by several ranges of IPs over a significant timespan, and the few (3?) genuine additions where all questionable in use as references- blogs do generally not pass our thresholds for reliable sourcing. I think this is rightfully blacklisted, and would suggest that you first show merit for specific links on specific pages through whitelisting. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:21, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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