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Hello, [[:Category:Pages using infobox officeholder with an atypical party value]] is showing strange behaviour. Could you please check it? -- Pankaj Jain ''[[User:Capankajsmilyo|Capankajsmilyo]] <span class="plainlinks">([[User talk:Capankajsmilyo|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contribs/Capankajsmilyo|contribs]] '''·''' [//tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=Capankajsmilyo&project=en.wikipedia.org count])</span>'' 06:49, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
Hello, [[:Category:Pages using infobox officeholder with an atypical party value]] is showing strange behaviour. Could you please check it? -- Pankaj Jain ''[[User:Capankajsmilyo|Capankajsmilyo]] <span class="plainlinks">([[User talk:Capankajsmilyo|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contribs/Capankajsmilyo|contribs]] '''·''' [//tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=Capankajsmilyo&project=en.wikipedia.org count])</span>'' 06:49, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
: [[User:Capankajsmilyo|Capankajsmilyo]], it was tracking all non-blank parties not on the list in the #switch: statement. clearly this was too many false positives. I have written a more restrictive LUA version, which will still have false positives, but far fewer. once the server has repopulated the category, we can look for more patterns to exclude. [[User:Frietjes|Frietjes]] ([[User talk:Frietjes#top|talk]]) 13:47, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
: [[User:Capankajsmilyo|Capankajsmilyo]], it was tracking all non-blank parties not on the list in the #switch: statement. clearly this was too many false positives. I have written a more restrictive LUA version, which will still have false positives, but far fewer. once the server has repopulated the category, we can look for more patterns to exclude. [[User:Frietjes|Frietjes]] ([[User talk:Frietjes#top|talk]]) 13:47, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

== Question ==

[[User:Eagle2468|Eagle2468]] ([[User talk:Eagle2468|talk]]) 16:38, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
Jai Bhavani( this is our Hindu greetings)
i wanted to ask u is that wat do u think of wikipedia and y.
pls let me know ASAP! Thank u!

Revision as of 16:38, 29 March 2017

Barnstar for you!

The Template Barnstar
I've looked at your tireless contribution to templates. So i believe this barnstar should suit you. Ibrahim ebi (talk) 15:59, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Template Barnstar
Thanks for your help to improve the Adopt-a-typo template. Much appreciated! Jason Quinn (talk) 16:50, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Template Barnstar
For getting better performance and adding options to the chess diagram template. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 02:36, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Let me just second this (since you've got three on this page already). Thank you for all those well-framed edit requests you made to the convert sub-templates. ~Adjwilley (talk) 20:05, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for editing Sandhani page. Dr. Kabir Hossain (talk) 18:41, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Technical Barnstar
Module:testcase table is great! Thanks for making it! —hike395 (talk) 03:58, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The SpongeBob SquarePants Bubble Award
Hey Frietjes! Thanks for your wonderful and helpful contributions in SpongeBob related areas. I really appreciate it. Keep it up! Thanks and happy editing! :) Mediran (t • c) 03:12, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Barnstar of Diligence
Thank you for being observant to other's (i.e. me) ham-fisted hacking and repairing damaged templates without fuss. You rock! FruitMonkey (talk) 21:11, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Original Barnstar
For your work correcting the "year" field in 1000s of uses of {{Infobox Australian place}}. Much appreciated. Mattinbgn (talk) 19:53, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Wow. That was a quick work here! Happy editing! --    L o g  X   17:34, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Technical Barnstar
Thanks for you work on tables and templates! -- Wywin (talk | contribs) 18:35, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Template Barnstar
Thanks for all your work replacing instances of {{convert/spell}} with the new Lua compliant {{convert|...|spell=in}} AdmrBoltz 20:54, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Frietjes, I would like to thank you for taking care and fixing the oil field infobox even without asking. It was really kind of you. Beagel (talk) 17:59, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A kitten for you!

Thanks for all the updating of the population data you are doing on Queensland places! Great work!

Kerry (talk) 00:32, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Golden Doubloon of Anatomy
You have been awarded the prestigious Golden Doubloon for your services to the WP:ANATOMY WikiProject. Thanks!
The Technical Barnstar
Thank you for adding team colors for college basketball players. Temple of the Mousy (talk) 19:53, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

tireless template help
Thank you for quality help in all kinds of template questions, even creating a template that should not be needed rather than "some hack of div tags and html tables", finding solutions with sense and offering them with kindness, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:01, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Template Barnstar
Thank you so much for your fix at Template:Infobox winery. You've just fixed something that had been a small annoyance to me and probably others for a long time. SchreiberBike talk 00:46, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A Cookie for your work behind-the-scene's on various currency articles
On a number of occasions now I've noticed you've made a whole series of benificial but tedious improvements to various currency articles. These are mostly the type of improvements that are behind the scene's (formatting, wikifying, etc.) and thus might go unrecognized, so I wanted to take a moment to thank you and let you know it's appreciated. Gecko G (talk) 20:49, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nice work!
Thanks so much for the work on the Nanjing districts template! Your input on the template itself and placement within articles is extremely helpful! I had posted two questions about how to format it and you resolved both issues! It's very much appreciated and looks really nice now. CaroleHenson (talk) 15:16, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The Barnstar of Diligence
Nice work on {{Taxation}}! You do a lot of work in neglected areas, and it's always a big improvement. bobrayner (talk) 12:46, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for patrolling unused templates and nominating them for deletion. The cleanup is very useful. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:17, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The Original Barnstar
Thanks for the article changes :) Viktor O. Ledenyov (talk) 14:07, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The College football Barnstar
Frietjes, thank you for your excellent work streamlining the color coding used in navboxes for college football and other college sports subjects. Jweiss11 (talk) 06:26, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The Working Woman's Barnstar
For your unceasing work on the many WP Templates, I hereby award you this Barnstar YSSYguy (talk) 23:25, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
A big thanks for your help with putting in grid-numbers in info-boxes: it works like dream! With best wishes, Huldra (talk) 22:02, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For your endeavor in template cleanup, where I sometimes feel overwhelmed, and wish I were more like you. -- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}} 19:55, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Philippine barnstar
"My own work" (the pic not the star!) --Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Sun 07:11, wikitime= 23:11, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

tireless template help
Thank you for quality help in all kinds of template questions, even creating a template that should not be needed rather than "some hack of div tags and html tables", finding solutions with sense and offering them with kindness, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:01, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for correcting my sourcing mistake on Defense of the Reich. Much appreciated. GeneralizationsAreBad (talk) 19:58, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
for the amazing work you do everyday and the help you provide to the CHECKWIKI project. Magioladitis (talk) 11:41, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
A kitten for you!

Thank you, thank you, thank you for fixing this!

—  dainomite   15:11, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And thats a high five to you😃
Thanks for all you good contribution. It was greatly appreciated👋 Brilloman12 (talk) 05:51, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For you hard work at cleaning up templates. Just checked my watch list and it BLEW UP with all the changes you made. Keep up the awesome work! Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 04:05, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

hi, thank u for editing in my page user :)

SURDUSVII 17:51, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For helping me today!

Magioladitis (talk) 16:06, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Teamwork Barnstar
Thanks for monitoring the talk page for Module:College color/data and adding the support for references proactively. —Bagumba (talk) 02:46, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The Technical Barnstar
For improving ISBN checks! Magioladitis (talk) 18:58, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Cookies makes me happy. I hope hey make you too :) Magioladitis (talk) 22:43, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The Template Barnstar
Thanks a lot for merging {{Infobox Jain temple}} with {{Infobox religious building}}. You deserve this. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 19:02, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The Cure Award
In 2015 you were one of the top 300 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med Foundation for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a user group whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs, and we would love to collaborate further.
The Tolkien Barnstar
You have been awarded a barnstar by WikiProject Middle-earth for your tireless effort of cleaning up template shortcuts. De728631 (talk) 19:16, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

My wikilove again and again!!

Magioladitis (talk) 19:31, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Three years ago ...
tireless template help
... you were recipient
no. 441 of Precious,
a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:01, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your contribution to the draft of the National Science Museum at Maynooth AugusteBlanqui (talk) 19:55, 6 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The Technical Barnstar
Thanks for all of your help at Module:College color... you ROCK! It would be no where where it is today without you!!! 🎓 Corkythehornetfan 🎓 23:09, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Trying to make up for being nasty. Was having a bad day and you, unfairly, paid the price.

Maragm (talk) 13:51, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Barnstar of Diligence
This Barnstar of Diligence is awarded to Frietjes for persistence and diligence in emptying Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls, which contained tens of thousands of pages with errors, over the last two years. Thanks, from one gnome to another. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:16, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The Technical Barnstar
Thank you, template guru! bd2412 T 21:10, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The Scouting Barnstar

-For solving the uniform riddle we've had for 6 years, putting your mad tech skills available to the Wiki community, fast and cheerfully! --Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 02:54, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Technical Barnstar
For your continued assistance with modules and templates. Thank you for being such a joy to work with and for being so responsive to requests for assistance. Keep up the awesome work. Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:30, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The Technical Barnstar
For your continued work on templates, particularly your dedication to templates that are insanely complicated, such as Template:Infobox country. Everyone wanted that template converted to use {{Infobox}}, but no one (including myself) wanted to put in the time and effort to make it happen. Way to step up and get it done! Keep up the amazing work. Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:35, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The da Vinci Barnstar
Thank you User:Frietjes for those amazing improvements you made to Holocaust infoboxes: concentration camp and Holocaust event. This is what I call, putting advanced knowledge of formatting into the best possible use for the benefit of our project.[25] [26] All best, and thank you again, Poeticbent talk 16:02, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The Technical Barnstar
For eliminating mainspace articles in Category:Pages using infobox map with x or y by creating location maps, I award you this barnstar! Thanks so much! —hike395 (talk) 05:02, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Precious
Four years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:38, 31 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The da Vinci Barnstar
for your outstanding work in developing a technical template to convert coordinates from German to English Wiki format; something which has caused problems for years and will now save thousands of nugatory editor hours. Well done and thank you! Bermicourt (talk) 17:35, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The Original Barnstar
For your wonderful work! Huldra (talk) 21:47, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The Technical Barnstar
For your incredible work on Module:Sidebar games events. Not just the fact that you got that done, but you are such a pleasure to work with. You have a wonderful attitude, are eager to work with others and help a n00b like myself. You are truly a stellar wikipedian. THANK YOU! Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:29, 8 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The Technical Barnstar
thanks for being so helpful —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 21:40, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The Original Barnstar
Thank you for your valuable contributions! You are a valuable contributor on Wikipedia! Pkbwcgs (talk) 18:26, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The Original Barnstar
Hi Frietjes I Respect Your opinion, I try To merge these pages to the main Volleyball box page but It seems technically hard for me, I tell the creator of volleyball box page to add these categories, He didin't Reply at all So I have created these pages I think its a useful solution. so please I hope to keep these pages, cause when you delete it all. It will deform the panorama in other linked pages. thanks Elly mino (talk) 22:05, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The Brilliant Idea Barnstar
Well Thank You for your Last contributions, Great Work Elly mino (talk) 13:51, 24 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
WikiProject Japan Barnsensu Award
Thank you for your help in creating Module:Location map/data/Japan complete. It will prove useful in a number of articles. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:32, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The Technical Barnstar
Great work on several templates, especially sports-related ones like Template:Sports_rivalry_series_table. It's made them more compact and easier to use. Keep up the good work! WuTang94 (talk) 21:34, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]


A goat for you!

Just a reminder that you are awesome. Left a message on your page asking for some help, and MINUTES later, you were all over it. People like you are what make Wikipedia awesome.

Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:22, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Qwerty number1 has given you a puppy!
thanks for.creating this wonderful template!!!
Spread the goodness of puppies by adding {{subst:Puppy}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message.
Qwerty number1 (talk) 07:28, 2 September 2018 (UTC) [reply]
Precious
Six years!
The Special Barnstar
Many many thanks for note translation on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ggerly/sandbox Ggerly (talk) 16:17, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Editor of the Week
Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week in recognition of your diligent editing. Thank you for the great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)
Frietjes
 
Editor of the Week
for the week beginning March 8, 2020
Persistent and dedicated work implementing and replacing tens of thousands of uses with Module:Sports table without much recognition. One of the top edit counts of all time with an amazing 750000 edits.
Recognized for
behind the scenes effort
Notable work
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Submit a nomination
Precious
Seven years!
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:52, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The Template Barnstar
To Frietjes for transforming the WNBA rosters. Beautifully done. Thank you! -SusanLesch (talk) 02:53, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The da Vinci Barnstar
For awesome help with templates always willingly given. Schwede66 19:11, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The Technical Barnstar
Just wanted to say a massive thanks for your work on the Election results template. Not only is it a big help for getting some consistency in presentation, but the automatic totalling and percentage calculation has helped identify several errors in the tables (both from editors mistranscribing numbers from sources, and mistakes in the sources themselves) by comparing the automatically-calculated totals/percentages with those given in the original tables/sources. This will be a big help in maintaining accuracy! Number 57 22:32, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Precious anniversary
Precious
Eight years!
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merit Badge Sash Award
Thank you for your dedication to Scouting! --evrik (talk) 20:24, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
thank you for the help!! I am new to this whole process :) Heather Brittany Xaricam 17:51, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The Barnstar of Diligence
Forgot to give you one of these for having done some large unseen work to remove NavFrame. :^) Izno (talk) 17:36, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Precious
Nine years!
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:56, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Technical Barnstar
For your script findargdups. Truly a wonderful tool. Happy Editing--IAmChaos 03:11, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Template Barnstar
Your tireless contribution to templates, and template syntax's has been noticed. So I believe this barnstar should be awarded to you.  The Emperor of Byzantium  (talk) 15:12, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Happy New Year!

Frietjes,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Abishe (talk) 18:16, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Abishe (talk) 18:16, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Happy New Year!

Frietjes,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
— Moops ⋠T⋡ 19:59, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

— Moops ⋠T⋡ 19:59, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Been away for a few years due to health issues. Just dropped in for a bit to do some editing and wanted to say howdy! Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:59, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The Barnstar of Diligence
Amazing work in fixing all the broken #section-h transclusions! Thanks a million!
Always precious

Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:42, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for changing volleyball templates to Module:Sports table/Volleyball in every Volleyball competitions related articles. ♒️ 98TIGERIUS 🐯 17:04, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there, thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia! Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas and here's to a happy and productive 2024! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:21, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
There isn't a barnstar for most article page moves in 24 hour period so this will have to do! Liz Read! Talk! 01:50, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Special Barnstar
Thank you for helping out with the article I was writing, I appreciate it! Have a nice day! I am a new user, someday I'll write an article (talk) 20:38, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
thank you for your contributions!! :D xRozuRozu (t • c) 21:03, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Location map Kingdom of Hungary

From my talk page back in september.

Bugger bugger bugger, I saw a map in the transport museum in budapest we went the other week and it had the lat and long but in pretty much a mercator projection. My missus was more interested with the toy trains so I didn't get a chance to take the measures off it. If it's wrong (as it is) it should be deleted but I am still trying to get the measures right. The thing is it's specifically Kingdom of Hungary, but the more atlases (atli? :) I look at the more different lats and longs I get. And anything one does on Hungarian articles is rather contentious, so it is probably really better deleted. Because people whose great grandfathers were part of the Kingdom of Hungary will say no that's Croatia or Slovakia or Slovenia or Yugoslavia or Jugoslavia or The People's Republic of East Kebab. Since Hungarian politics is very contentious and goes on racist grounds in far more than would be allowed in where I come from, this is better off deleted. (Hint: say Treaty of Trianon to a Hungarian and await results.) Si Trew (talk) 09:36, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hungary ethic groups.jpg
I never did get round to this. I took the coords off of file at right, which is very high quality but seems to have an odd idea of where 0 longitude is (it suggests it is east of Paris, but that didn't seem to work). As you suggested, I tried to take well-known points at the edges of the map: Fiume, for example, at south-west. I took very good readings after printing out this map at A0 size and using ruler and compass, my trig is quite good, but I could never get it to fit. Si Trew (talk) 06:02, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
.Oh, Template:Location_map_Kingdom_of_Hungary/test might help you. You see, Fiume's in the right place but Budapest is a bit too far left and the rest are well out. Si Trew (talk) 06:09, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That map uses the Paris meridian. It's not a Mercator projection, the lines of latitude aren't quite parallel. Maproom (talk) 20:09, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Maproom, thanks for the tip. I have written code for generating coefficients for nonlinear projections if I know the functional form. but, the code requires at least as many reference points as there are coefficients. basically a nonlinear least-squares algorithm. the problem here is that other than the reference markings on the side of the map, it's tough to get reference points in the middle. Frietjes (talk) 21:18, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Si Trew, should we just give up on Template:Location map Kingdom of Hungary and have it deleted? Frietjes (talk) 21:20, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
How many do you need in the middle? You get get a reference point near each corner by specifying where the nearest line of (Paris) longitude would cross the nearest line of latitude, and use towns like Szolnok (which Google Earth says is 47°10'N 20°11'E Greenwich) in the middle. Maproom (talk) 21:37, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Maproom, now that I look at it again, I think we have enough with the two interior intersection points and the points along the edges. the original question was about the image in Template:Location map Kingdom of Hungary which is less clear. for File:Hungary-ethnic_groups.jpg, I think we can make a working location map. thank you again. Frietjes (talk) 21:42, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Just a thought, maybe not very coherent at this time of night. Using an ethnographic map as a location map may, as Si Trew pointed out, be contentious. Will it help if instead I upload to Commons this map? It uses a Ferro meridian, which is no worse than Paris, and shows enough towns such as Szolnok for central reference points. Maproom (talk) 22:02, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Maproom, that may help. let's see what Si Trew says. my main focus is turning map images into working location maps. I don't really have a strong feeling about the particular map image, so long as it is created with a well-defined projection. Frietjes (talk) 22:06, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Just asking out of curiosity – how do you "turn a map image into a location map"? Do you warp it into the Mercator projection that the template requires? Or do you supply the template with a transform function? Maproom (talk) 07:24, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Maproom, supply the transformation function. see, for example, module:Location map/data/Canada. if I know the functional form and a sufficient number of reference points, I can numerically solve for the coefficients. Frietjes (talk) 12:40, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. It's reassuring to see that things are done in such a sensible and comprehensible way. Incidentally – if you ever find a map image at http://maproom.org/ that you could use in Wikipedia, please let me know and I'll put it on Commons. Maproom (talk) 09:46, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for pinging me in on this. I know it was a long time ago. User:Maproom, yes I did guess it was the Paris Meridian all that time ago, but that didn't seem quite to fit either. Since then I took something and with Inkscape made a four-colour map (five if you include Lake Balaton as a fifth colour, blue, but could have been made a fourth colour as those that surround it are all in three other colours, it is just more pleasant to have it in blue but not mathematically necessary) and split out all the layers and borders and so on into separate layers on the SVG. I seem to recall I called it Template:Location Map Hungary2 or something – and I emphasise this is not the Kingdom of Hungary but the modern-day Hungary. All I had left to do was get the text labelling right. Searching for "a new look for an old map" was something roughly want some commenter said, may well have been User:Frietjes here but may not have been (a long time ago, just going from memory: and those exact words are what was printed on the front of the first H C Beck fold-up London Underground Diagram (often called "Map"; Beck himself never called it a map: I have good references for this from publications of the London Transport Museum in woodware) of 1933, so I am probably confusing those words with the same sentiment expressed. This is all such a long time ago, I give as hints for those who can search better than I.
On the plus side, by pure coincidence (these are not common around here in Budapest) my local pub has a nice 1898ish German (I think) map of Austria-Hungary; certainly pre-Treaty of Trianon. This is a five or six colour map and I am pretty sure it is in German but I am going from memory, I don't think it's in Hungarian. It would be about 40 by 25 inches (1,020 mm × 640 mm) and I daresay somehow I could get it scanned in, in one of the largescale printers in the town (who I happen to be also on good terms with, for various other reasons) or just take four A3 scans and stitch them with photoshop, assuming that my scanner doesn't distort too much. I am on good terms with the landlord as I have given him my British registration plates and various other British pub memorablia, it is that kind of pub, very much a "local", so I can ask to borrow the map (it's framed) or just go in on a quiet afternoon with a straightedge etc and try to get some measures off that. I think it is not the same as the image is here, though quite similar. As a start shall I get the maker etc, would that help at all, before I do the trig etc off it? I have a very good straightedge and fifty quids worth of setsquare adjustable protractor that I use for technical drawing on my A0 drawing board, it's about 25 inches (640 mm) long on its hypotenuese, which should be enough to measure angles and distances with some kinda veracity, I am not sure of the projection without looking again. Is it worth me taking a look and reporting back, probably will be about UTC+2 Friday tomorrow, else Monday? If you give me some nice trig points "in the middle" I will do my best to give you the readings off of them. These won't be 100% accuracy but will be within a second of arc or two through the distortion of the glass in the frame, I would imagine. Si Trew (talk) 16:05, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I understand if it is WP:COPYVIO etc but if I check the maker first, it may very well turn out not to be because of the date and also various other "things that have happened since", could well be PD or fair use. I think I check the maker first, that is clear enough in top right corner but don't remember offhand. Would that be of any use, at least to confirm or deny if it's the same as this one? It reminded me of this one, when I first saw it, but I think it is different but of about the same time. Si Trew (talk) 16:40, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
File:Hungary_location_map.svg is the one I made the four-colour svg version of. It just needs tidying on the text labels layer if I remember right, I can't remember its name. The computer it was on is long gone. File:Hungary location map2.svg? Something like that. We have File:Hungary location map-2.jpg on Commons, but that's not it, cos it's not four-colour and has labels in Cyrillic, is a jpg not an svg. Perhaps unfortunately it got deleted as unused. I'd need to ask an admin to dredge from about 2009 onwards. Users working on it would have been mostly me and perhaps occasionally the missus, no longer editing at Wikipedia for many a year due to very harsh and undeserved comments after excellent translations of English articles about the Tudors into HU:WP (something she is an expert in, more than I know and I'm bloody English): Her username was/is User:Monkap. Si Trew (talk) 16:51, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
OK, the map you included wrongfooted me, this is exactly the map that is nominated (duh!) I was looking at the map you included on the right. No, don't give up on it, I'll try to fix it. It is nearly OK, all the coords and borders and counties etc are done on separate labels and I think it is much better than the boring brown map transcluded via {{Infobox Hungarian settlement}}. We just need to fix the edges and fix the text-label layer for some reason the font doesn't scale properly, I never did work out why, I shall try again. One reason to separate into different layers in a good GIS fashion is so that with a flick of the wrist one can turn off all the labels, turn off e.g. the county borders, make all the counties brown and just fill one particular county in a different colour (for Hungarian county articles) etc etc etc. I hand-edited the XML for the SVG to make it all nice, it's much much nicer than its predecessor for putting into a GIS etc because each county edge and county border and county name etc is labeleed in a very consistent fashion. The underlying SVG is File:Kingdom_of_Hungary_counties-2.svg. The polygons for the borders go actually in a kinda "cogwheel" order so that some going anticlockwise have their boundaries against the others going clockwise, rather in a toothed gearwheel manner, but that was just my pedantry; each county actually has its own borders as it did on the original, but on the original the borders for e.g Budapest to Pest County were a bit different from the borders of Pest County to Budapest, i.e. there was a gap or overlap, which now there is not in "my" version, they have all the coordinates bang on, as I did them all in hand in the XML not with some "snap it roughly to where it looks right" tool. All the bordering points have the same coords but the opposite directions (clockwise or widdershins) which helps the SVG polygon fill get it right without overlap or gap.
I think we should keep it and try to fix the labels and the "fix" coordinates for it. I suppose this was a labour of love but I think it does make it better than what is used in the infobox, it scales except for the text labels and the old one has errors in the border coords that leave gaps or overlaps, it just doesn't seem so at the scale used in infoboxes, as the rendering of the borders and the pushpins for the places are far larger than the errors, at even a large-screen resolution scale. If you blow it up and print it onto A0 (paper size) is is noticeable. Si Trew (talk) 17:05, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The text labels are fine on my I think 1972 across screen in full view. When I made this I think I had a 1024x768 screen. It's when the labels are all squished they don't scale down properly, and get all scrunched up, I have never quite worked out why. There is a style that governs it, and I tried all sorts of things but none worked. Si Trew (talk) 21:04, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Needs help

I like charts, mostly pie but also bar, and I really like shades of grey best - for normal purposes physically printing is just black‑and‑white (and shades of grey). But this really allow only ten shades of grey. I would like just a few options to make up to 15-ish. I think to extend to texture would do the trick. And I see that these days CSS background‑image can be specified. These are lots of different things can be made, but for use here I would just what two textures, and just left top to right bottom or the other way, and narrow chevron or wider.

thick
left right
thin
It be easiest to make just one colour :

So Frietjes, I won't if you could help. I want to enhance module:chart (bar and pie). The module have been written by the user-with-a-Hebrew-name, (name is קיפודנחש), s/he doesn't seem to be online very often. It seems easy enough, but the module code is a closed book as far as I can see. Do you be able to help?

Just all one or two colours, with direction 'left' or 'right', and 'thin' or 'thick'. I know this OK with IE, I don't know any browser.

– Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Mon 08:02, wikitime= 00:02, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

User:Unbuttered Parsnip, yes, the author is probably kipod (see history and talk for module:chessboard). we have interacted before, extremely nice and helpful editor. I can take a look, but probably not for a week due to backlog. Frietjes (talk) 00:07, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Frietjes (talk) I'll be going on holiday for three weeks, so I won't look into it until new year. I don't think anything difficult, just background‑image:repeating-linear-gradient by CSS. I just need it into module:Chart – Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Wed 05:09, wikitime= 21:09, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Photomontage

Dear user, I saw that you contributed in Template:Photomontage and Module:Photo montage, so I got a question: is it possible to make this Template automatically adjust the heigh of images by cropping the highest to the level of lowest one? I primaly use this template to make rich city-related collages. This template tries to render all images with equal width of all images in row. Sometimes aspect ratio of different images is not the same and as a Result I got an empty space around the lower image which makes the whole collage not so attractive as it could be.--Orange-kun (talk) 19:24, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I mean. --Orange-kun (talk) 19:33, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Single wing

Hi there Frietjes (Freet-yes?), thanks for your recent edits on the All-Southern teams. Are you the code wizard able to help me fix the single wing diagrams? If so, I could feel good about nominating 1921 Centre, 1925 Alabama, 1926 Alabama, &c for GA. How can I move the row containing QB and RHB over one space to the right, like the picture at right?

Cheers. Cake (talk) 13:25, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cake, vertical-align:top usually helps keep things aligned within the row. are you asking for less of a vertical gap between the rows, or for the LHB to be further up? Frietjes (talk) 22:30, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm asking for the "QB" and "RHB" cells - the second horizontal row, to move over a unit to the right. Like the picture. Never could figure it out. Cake (talk) 01:06, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Cake, there are other ways to do it (for example, this hack), but the modified version above is probably the most robust. another option would be doing something like {{football squad on pitch}}. Frietjes (talk) 21:55, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
would it be useful to merge this with Template:CFB Team Depth Chart or make a new template for this formation? Frietjes (talk) 22:05, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well I didn't need to move the fullback at all, but you did manage to get the wingback (RHB) to work, which I found so difficult, and thank you. I didn't know there was a template either - cool. I've managed to sufficiently mimic the short punt (say here) and the T (say here) and the jump shift (say here). Other articles already had the I (say here). Cake (talk) 03:13, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note the similarity to the picture with my minor change. Well done. Cake (talk) 03:30, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Long way to say yes, I think it would help to have these as options just like pro-set or I on that template. Need to try my hand at making a 7-2-2 defense. Also, apparently switching the spot of the QB with the LHB or TB was common, but as we have it above was even more common. Cake (talk)

Okay, so I am getting closer...

If you can tell me whether it should be space or no space in the body part names, that's one of two issues we can solve, then hopefully I am out of your hair, as I do not want to be a pest.

The second issue is maybe easier. If you look at Scouts Australia, the boy renders smaller than the girls do. Most countries will want to show both boys and girls side by side... can we fix the feet space and head space? I mean the background of each image.. they have not only different sizes but also "float" in different positions inside the template (my graphist friend explained usually defined as x points from left, y points from top)

She is not good with creating templates, but says that if I find someone to do the code writing, she can help create the images.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 14:28, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kintetsubuffalo, space or no space in the name are both okay. the point is that (1) they all have to use the exact same naming convention, and (2) they all have to be exactly the same size with the position within the image in the exact same place. otherwise, I will have to create a different positioning and file name for every single image, which would be total hell. Frietjes (talk) 14:31, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
She'll fix the sizing, no hell for you. :) I'll get the name requests in! Thanks!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 14:34, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
test image to be deleted once we have fixed the template coding problems
Okay, names are done, I chose no space (only 2 to fix, I think...) and my graphist friend LadyofHats made four basic test images for the template. changed a bit the names to not disturb the older ones until the template is done. the files are:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikiProject_Scouting_uniform_template_male_male_head.svg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikiProject_Scouting_uniform_template_male_longshirt.svg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikiProject_Scouting_uniform_template_male_bermudas.svg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WikiProject_Scouting_uniform_template_male_boots.svg

She sent me an svg with all pieces placed on top of each other and colored for you to see the intended position. Can I e-mail you this? And if you need a bitmap let me know.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 05:39, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I just uploaded it to Commons to save time.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 05:47, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Can we at least do skintones? Names are fixed, and it's really important. Thank you again for all your hard work.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:55, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kintetsubuffalo, I will work on it soon. if you can point me to an article and tell me the appropriate skin tone, I can make sure everything is working as expected. Frietjes (talk) 13:11, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Kenya Girl Guides Association, and thanks!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:12, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Kintetsubuffalo, should work now, try |skintone=M or |skintone=D. I will work on making it more robust shortly, but let me know if you see any problems. I believe you were also asking for the relative scaling between male and female to be normalized? that will require some extra clipping/scaling, but should be possible. Frietjes (talk) 13:51, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You did it, thank you! I don't want to swamp you with sizes, that is a biggie. This is great! There are 3 more hats, I don't know if that is a separate issue...--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:54, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Kintetsubuffalo, additional hats, shirts, shorts, etc should automatically work so long as they use the same naming convention, positioning, scale. the only caveat is for images like "trousers" which don't have any skin tone. those I have to add to the switch to avoid using different images for different skin tones. Frietjes (talk) 13:57, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't follow but I trust your judgement!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:58, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Kintetsubuffalo, there is only one trousers image since no skin is showing. to make that work in the template I had to add a special case. if any new images are added without skin showing we will have to do something special. otherwise, it should work automatically. Frietjes (talk) 14:53, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 14:55, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Don't know why, but the bottom navigation bar refuses to show at Girl Scouts of the Philippines. These are working great, by the way, thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:20, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Kintetsubuffalo, fixed it for you. before the fix, "Asia" was not the same as "asia". seems reasonable that it should not be case sensitive. Frietjes (talk) 15:46, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Broken comment/gallery tags

Number of pages with broken gallery tags increased. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:57, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Replacement of coordinates parameters in infoboxes

Hi, would you like to help out at Wikipedia:Coordinates in infoboxes? It's fine if you don't, but I'd like to take a wikibreak due to real-life commitments and currently there are only two other editors working on updating and fixing the infoboxes. Thanks, Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me 14:07, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for un-mangling my attempts to archive

I very much appreciate your assistance with my archive coding misadventures! I'm dating myself, but my only formal programming training was in the sixties with FORTRAN using punchcards, then COBOL(which I hated) then LOGO when my kids began programming. So I am usually able to decipher and emulate wiki markup, but found myself in the tule reeds with the archive template code. Many thanks. Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 18:50, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Review of {{PH town table}}?

Hello. {{PH town table}} uses population parameters from Wikidata. Using the template itself is already complicated, but updating the figures on future censuses will make it even more since we will need to verify if the latest/preferred population are actually used. Will it not be simpler if the template uses raw data for the 2015 population just like in {{PH brgy table lite}}, which is much easier to add and/or (re-)organize in TSV format? — Sanglahi86 (talk) 17:50, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Re: [27] - fair enough, although I quite liked how this approach meant that Commons links were auto-included in the articles where available, rather than them having to be manually added. Plus I still disagree that Commons is an external link, since it's an (internal) link to another part of the Wikimedia websites. But I won't revert - there's far too much to be done to Wikidata-ify the infoboxes anyway. :-) Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:47, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mike Peel, it's too bad that these can't be automatically included in the articles without having to manually add the {{commons}} or {{commons category}} templates. and, if it were automatic, we could have a 'preferences' option to select the location for the link. Frietjes (talk) 21:50, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Mike Peel, by the way, it would be great if you could comment at this related tfd. Frietjes (talk) 21:52, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
They are auto-included in the left-hand sidebar anyway now, near the Wikidata/language links, which is good, but they're not very noticeable in that location. In principle, we could auto-add the commons/commonscat templates, in the same way that the coordinates are auto-added to the top-right of the page through the infobox - but that would take a bit of juggling with stylesheets, and would probably need to be done systematically so that they aren't simultaneously auto-displayed and manually inserted in the page. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:55, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Mike Peel, good point. I could write some javascript to move them from the left-hand sidebar to another location, but that would be an opt-in (user must install the javascript). it would be cool if the default location were, as you suggest, in a more noticeable place as part of the default skin. Frietjes (talk) 21:57, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Javascript doesn't sound useful - the target audience I had in mind here is readers, not editors, so from that POV it's no use having something that's opt-in! Now looking at the TfD - it looks like a useful template! BTW, please don't remove this from the telesecope infobox (at least) for now, as it's a useful example there. :-) Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:58, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Mike Peel, yes, I agree it should be in the default skin, not an opt-in sort of thing. although a demo in javascript may be useful for demonstrating the resulting look. and, don't worry, I don't plan to remove the commons linking from any of the space/astro/telescope-based infoboxes. that community appears to be in favour of putting the commons link in the infobox. Frietjes (talk) 22:04, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Head to head template

I like the idea of the head to head template, and have tried it out for the first five teams in NWC Prem.

I'm not too keen on the dates wrapping over to a second line, so have tried a couple options to keep them on one line.

Home \ Away 18N ABH DAR LVP ASH
1874 Northwich — 2–0 3–0 1–3 7 Jan
Abbey Hey 8 Apr — tba 7 Jan 21 Jan
AFC Darwen 2 Apr 1–3 — 2–2 0–4
AFC Liverpool 17 Dec 1–2 25 Mar — 3–1
Ashton Athletic 25 Mar tba 1–3 22 Apr —
Updated to match(es) played on 30 November 2016. Source: some source
Legend: Blue = home team win; Yellow = draw; Red = away team win.
Home \ Away 18N ABH DAR LVP ASH
1874 Northwich — 2–0 3–0 1–3 7/1
Abbey Hey 8/4 — tba 7/1 21/1
AFC Darwen 2/4 1–3 — 2–2 0–4
AFC Liverpool 17/12 1–2 25/3 — 3–1
Ashton Athletic 25/3 tba 1–3 22/4 —
Updated to match(es) played on 30 November 2016. Source: some source
Legend: Blue = home team win; Yellow = draw; Red = away team win.
Drawoh46, it would be trivial to make the contents of the cells nowrap by default. I will do that in a moment. Frietjes (talk) 22:31, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Drawoh46, now updated. Frietjes (talk) 22:33, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Frietjes Looking good! Now expanded to show full width. I like it! Will almost certainly adopt it for NWC. Drawoh46 (talk) 22:51, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Home \ Away 18N ABH DAR LVP ASH FFF GGG HHH III JJJ KKK LLL MMM NNN OOO PPP QQQ RRR SSS TTT UUU VVV
1874 Northwich — 2–0 3–0 1–3 7 Jan 15 Apr 4 Feb 2–1 1 Apr 5–0 1–3 21 Jan 1–1 tba 29 Apr 2–1 28 Jan tba 10 Dec 11 Feb 4–1 1–3
Abbey Hey 8 Apr — tba 7 Jan 21 Jan
AFC Darwen 2 Apr 1–3 — 2–2 0–4
AFC Liverpool 17 Dec 1–2 25 Mar — 3–1
Ashton Athletic 25 Mar tba 1–3 22 Apr —
FFF —
GGG —
HHH —
III —
JJJ —
KKK —
LLL —
MMM —
NNN —
OOO —
PPP —
QQQ —
RRR —
SSS —
TTT —
UUU —
VVV —
Updated to match(es) played on 30 November 2016. Source: some source
Legend: Blue = home team win; Yellow = draw; Red = away team win.

Frietjes Got it installed here. Any chance that the head to head module can have the V/T/E links, as does the sports table module? Drawoh46 (talk) 09:28, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Drawoh46, yes will do. by the way, I was just informed of the existence of Module:Sports results, so this module may be replaced in the future, but the syntax should be nearly the same, so we can always convert any uses with little problem. Frietjes (talk) 12:56, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Frietjes Thanks. I'll keep my eye on what's happening regarding Module:Head to head and Module:Sports results. Meanwhile, I'll keep the one template updated, but hold back on any others. Drawoh46 (talk) 13:11, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Drawoh46, I started the merger discussion at Module talk:Sports results. thank you. Frietjes (talk) 14:01, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Drawoh46, now merged. Frietjes (talk) 14:52, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Frietjes. Well done. And thanks for making the few necessary changes to the one template I'd used to call the Module:Head to head. I'll try another one shortly. Drawoh46 (talk) 15:12, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Frietjes. Just noticed that you'd changed my sandbox too. Thanks! Drawoh46 (talk) 15:16, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

TfD process

Your comment here contradicts your previous comment. Seems I'm wrong whichever path I take. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:12, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pigsonthewing, wow a comment that I made in 2016 is different from one that I made in 2014. shocking. if you want, I can strike my 2016 comment and say "keep" instead. Frietjes (talk) 15:15, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Check for Unknown Params

Hello! First let me say that I absolutely LOVE your script User:Frietjes/addcheckforunknownparameters.js. I'm just started using it and it is AMAZING!!! Great work. I wanted to make one suggestion if I may... It would be nice to have a check in there to make sure that #invoke:Check for unknown parameters doesn't already appear in the code... Just a thought and my own little 2 cents on what might make a tiny improvement to an already awesome script! --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:37, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Zackmann08, done. if you ever see a warning about incomplete parsing, make sure to check that the list of parameters is correct. this warning is usually safe so long as there are no parameters in the junk presented in the warning. however, if you ever find a case where it doesn't get all the parameters, or does something else that's wrong, let me know. Frietjes (talk) 13:57, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

pname parameter in Speciesbox

Hi, I saw your edit to Human. The logic of the code relating to |pname= in {{Speciesbox}} seems incorrect to me. Presumably it's trying to detect cases when the template is used for a genus with a single species, so the page name will be the genus although the target of the taxobox is the species, But I don't see why the number of parents then displayed by default should be 2 whereas it should be 0 otherwise. However, as it's coded, it's wrong to set |pname=Homo since the page name would be "Homo sapiens" if not "Human", so this should be the value of the parameter. I favour removing the test altogether, and defaulting to 1 parent above the genus – as the HTML comment says is the case. Peter coxhead (talk) 22:24, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Peter coxhead, fix it in whatever manner works. I was just trying to remove the transclusion of Template:Taxonomy/Human which was causing the page to appear in a database report for transclusions of deleted templates. Frietjes (talk) 13:58, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I'll look again at {{Speciesbox}}. However, checking for taxonomy templates by attempting to transclude them is a frequent feature of the automated taxobox system, so it's likely such pages will appear in the database report again for other reasons. Peter coxhead (talk) 15:41, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Peter coxhead, any way to stop this? seems odd that the link text parameter is generating transclusions, or from something else? it would be good to remove from Wikipedia:Database reports/Transclusions of deleted templates/1. Frietjes (talk) 00:07, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I can fix this report, and have done so, but the price to be paid is that the display of the section in the taxobox in articles which show Levenhookia sect. Coleostylis (such as Levenhookia chippendalei) isn't quite right – the "sect." should not be italicized. This is a known problem that has been raised at WP:PLANTS in the past. It's somewhere on my to-do list to try to fix, but at present I'm working on converting key parts of the automated taxobox system to Lua to prevent all the expansion depth errors that were occurring. Peter coxhead (talk) 07:10, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

{{webarchive}}

This edit[28] and some others are incorrect usage of the template. The documentation shows how it works. -- GreenC 03:12, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed them for you. you discarded some information and introduced some incorrect dates which should have been archive dates. Frietjes (talk) 13:58, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There are two ways to do citations with archives. Bare links + webarchive .. or CS1|2 templates such as {{web cite}} with the |archiveurl=. The later is recommended over the former if possible, as CS1|2 templates have many more features and options and are designed for use in citations. webarchive wasn't really designed for citations, rather for external links sections. But it gets used in citations mainly because link rot bots are unable to convert bare link style to CS1|2 which requires manual work. -- GreenC 15:30, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

..and I see that's what you just did :) (the |date= in webarchive is the archive date, they were correct). -- GreenC 15:34, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Paris Metro lines

Hello Frietjes
Please see Template talk:Infobox Paris Metro line#Electrification and Talk:Paris Métro Line 1#Electrification. Peter Horn User talk 02:18, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Deafness navbox

Dude my box, I'm sorry I didn't put it anywhere, it wasn't done. Can I have the code back? I'll put it in my sandbox. Template:Deafness navbox Rue-chan (talk) 05:36, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rue-chan, ask the administrator who deleted it (Plastikspork). Frietjes (talk) 13:04, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Rue-chan (talk) 04:03, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Geobox query

Hi Frietjes, thanks for adding the pushpin_map coding to the Geobox template, hence I can understand the TfDs for the now redundant Geobox locator maps. Can I enquire what prompted the changes to the Geobox, as I didn’t notice anyone asking for this useful improvement?...Jokulhlaup (talk) 17:14, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Jokulhlaup, there are many more {{location map}} templates compared to the old "geobox locator maps", and there is really no need to have duplicate templates that do the exact same thing. one advantage that the {{location map}} system has is that you don't need to specify the image. I found several which were using the "Texas" locator with a "Florida" map, or other such nonsense. Frietjes (talk) 17:18, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Jokulhlaup, what originally prompted this was that I tried to add a location map to a geobox and found that there was no corresponding "geobox locator". instead of creating a new map just for geobox, I added the pushpin_map option to geobox. Frietjes (talk) 17:20, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the replies, all makes sense now - it certainly was a pain creating a locator map for just a few articles...Jokulhlaup (talk) 17:43, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I've just added a comment to the Talk Page for Geobox about your conversion efforts (please correct anything I have follishly mischaracterized about your efforts), as well as a further comment at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2016 December 8. Thanks for your efforts. --papageno (talk) 05:04, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I presume you will turn your attention to converting instances of {{Geobox locator Ontario}} and {{Geobox locator Southern Ontario}} which I use a lot. Also, I presume you have automated the conversion? If so, I wonder if I might ask for one additional step: in early articles for Ontario rivers and using {{Geobox}}, I did not specify the Relief map, which is preferred over the political map. Could you populate the relief map parameter you've now introduced as non-blank for all instances of Geobox using Geobox locator Ontario or Geobox locator Southern Ontario that you're converting to {{Location map Canada Ontario}} and {{Location map Canada Southern Ontario}} during the conversion process? --papageno (talk) 05:04, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Technical Barnstar
For your continued assistance with modules and templates. Thank you for being such a joy to work with and for being so responsive to requests for assistance. Keep up the awesome work. Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:30, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

-moz- -webkit-

Detection of -moz- and -webkit- css properties is now running and can be found here. Daily, it will scan a subset of articles modified that day for problems. Once a month, a scan of a dump happens. Will add -o- and -ms-. It's also looking for crap the Content Transcrapulator puts out. Thankfully, that is more of a problem on other wikis. Bgwhite (talk) 08:03, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Bgwhite, looks like it is matching those expressions in URLs as well? I fixed all but the three that were part of the URLs. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:55, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox oil refinery

Hi, Frietjes. After the bot converted coordinates, there is no more a location map in {{Infobox oil refinery}}. I tried to fix it but it seems that I messed it up. Could you please help to fix it? Beagel (talk) 20:04, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Beagel, looks like this was fixed? Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 20:22, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:42, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hockeybox

Hey, great work with that. Can we please add a "v" instead of the empty space before a game is played? Kante4 (talk) 14:10, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kante4, so when score is blank, add a 'v' where the score goes? Frietjes (talk) 14:15, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, like the footballbox or so. Would look better than nothing in my view. ;) Kante4 (talk) 14:20, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Kante4, should work now. let me know if it's not as expected (and provide a link to an example). Frietjes (talk) 14:22, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I see it. How about just the "v"? No "." or abbr explaining what it means. Like the {{Football box}} or here. Sorry if i cause any trouble or so. Kante4 (talk) 14:26, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nice, thank you. Kante4 (talk) 15:10, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Up for a challenge??

So I'm thinking of trying to convert {{Infobox country}} to us {{infobox}}... At the very least I'm going to want a second set of eyes to look it over before I "push it live"... But would you have any interest in teaming up on this? pursuing a divide and concur? --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:18, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

User:Zackmann08, have you already converted it? Frietjes (talk) 17:20, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Lord no. I started looking at it and my head practically exploded. SUPER complex template.... --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:22, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
User:Zackmann08, I could do it, but probably not until tomorrow. I'm the one who did the initial conversion of infobox settlement, back before we had the template editor permission, so the change was enacted through an edit request. Frietjes (talk) 17:26, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
if you want your head to explode, look at {{geobox}}. I have been working on that one over the past month. Frietjes (talk) 17:26, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Please excuse me while I go vomit... Holy hell... Good luck with that one!!! No rush on {{infobox country}}. It has lasted this long, it can surely last a few more days or weeks. I was thinking we could split it up by section or something. I've found a really good appreach where in the sandbox page I put the two templates side by side so that as I make changes I can compare. For example, see Template:Infobox national korfball team/sandbox. Now the two are identical because the conversion is completed... But while I was working on it, each time I clicked show preview it would show me the side by side comparison of the two. On an unrelated note... Are you on IRC? --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:30, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So if you have a few moments I'd love your help fixing an issue. I'm in the process of converting {{Infobox song contest}} to use {{Infobox}}. I'm about 95% of the way there but I'm having some issues getting the Participation map to show up properly. Mind helping me out? O:-) --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 02:15, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
User:Zackmann08 did you fix the problem? Frietjes (talk) 13:09, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Not yet. If you have a chance... --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:13, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
User:Zackmann08, the side-by-side looks the same to me, can you be more specific. Frietjes (talk) 16:14, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That test case template is AWESOME! Thank you!!! Take a look now. That is the case that was messing up. BUT I now see that it is also a broken case for the current template so maybe not something I need to fix? Thoughts? --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:26, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

User:Zackmann08, I see. it should use the first available (most specific) map instead. now fixed. Frietjes (talk)
You rock. Thanks!! Happy Friday. :-) --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:59, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
you may be interested in Template:Infobox country/testcases. the infobox version is nearly finished. just need to test the myriad of different input permutations. Frietjes (talk) 19:03, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wakamatsu Shizuko

Hi, thank you to cleanup my translation at Wakamatsu Shizuko, and I appreciate your kind act very much (I admire your precise works on various translated articles :) ). You might notice the In use template I added at the top, (or I surely was not fast enough to add it,) and I am working on citation now. May I ask you to come back again later, and I wish you might feel like to correct additional errors I am not good at finding/taking care of? No hard feelings, arigatogozaimasu, --Omotecho (talk) 21:36, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Omotecho, no problem, and I hope I didn't cause any problems for you. I will try to remember to leave that one alone for now, or at least wait until it hasn't been touched for over a day. thank you. Frietjes (talk) 22:38, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Frietjes, it's all yours. I am leaving the article and go offline finding citation. Wish I did not made a mess... --Omotecho (talk) 23:45, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

draft

I didn't expect anyone else to start editing at Draft:Parc_de_Versailles. I got a big edit conflict when I went to save. Thanks for the help but if we're going to collaborate we better do so sensibly rather than tread on each other's toes. Are you planning any other edits? Si Trew (talk) 15:22, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Si Trew, no, not today. sorry for the trouble. Frietjes (talk) 15:33, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. I tend to translate "outside in" by doing the scaffolding first and translating the text last; I know other editors do it the other way around. So I was pretty much doing what you were doing, anyway., but I do it a bit differently e.g. by adding the trans-titles to the refs as I go along, so it takes me a bit longer than just a search/replace. Si Trew (talk) 15:49, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Equation of the updraught speed in a cloud

Hi,

thank you for converting the French unit templates. However, I am in the middle of translating this article and the first thing that I did was to convert the references which is painful. Then comes converting the hyperlinks, then translating the text and finally changing the units template, but keep them metric. I am not that far yet. This article is a scientific article and in Science, people only use the SI. Thus, converting 2 Pa into psi is highly improper. The same applies when converting an acceleration from m/s^2 into ft/s^2. All peer reviewed papers do use the metric system and even for wind speeds. By the way, I do not think that there exists a template where only SI is used and nothing else. If I am wrong, I would like to know. Thanks. Malosse (talk) 22:35, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Malosse, you can choose the output units. For example, 50 kg (7.9 st). See the documentation for {{convert}}. You have to keep in mind that Wikipedia is not the same as a scientific article, so not all readers are familiar with the same units. If they were, then we wouldn't need to convert units. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:19, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Checking for an absence of parameters being passed to a template

Can you help? Module_talk:Check_for_unknown_parameters#Checking_for_only_known_parameters_.28or_no_parameters.29.3F. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:55, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Bib Page

Hi there. I'm working in my namespace on a citation project. The edit you made, while I know it was well-intentioned, is interrupting the progress of this project. I had hoped that since the page is on my namespace that there would be little editing done. I would really appreciate if you could not make any edits. Thanks so much! -- Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 20:49, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

BrillLyle, if you don't fix the duplicate parameter error (see my edit), your page will stay in Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls and bots/editors will continue to try to fix the problem until it is fixed. Frietjes (talk) 20:50, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well I've been working on this for a week now and no bots have touched it yet. I don't want redlink errors, which your edit generated. Beside the fact that I'm trying to do a huge amount of work on these citations and would just ask human editors to not touch the page. I understand this is a problem but I need to be able to focus on input and not debate this. I am trying to make this consistent and there are quite a few European ISBNs that aren't converting to ISBN-13s in any of our Western systems.
Also, since it's on my namespace, isn't it sort of protected from scrutiny, even if it's just a convention? I would really appreciate if you could not make further edits. I'm having to stop the work now to debate this, when I am really under a time crunch. I hope you can understand this issue. Thanks -- Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 20:54, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
BrillLyle, open the page in edit mode, and press "show preview". you will see the error. no bot touched your page yet because you just introduced the error about 4 hours ago. do you see how |volume= appears twice? I don't need to help you fix it, but as I said, a bot will within the next 24 hours. bots run on this category about once per day. Frietjes (talk) 21:03, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I can see that error. I fixed it already, I think, right? --- Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 21:36, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
BrillLyle, if your page is in Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls, then no. Frietjes (talk) 21:37, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Current APEC Foreign Ministers

Would that be more better if the APEC Foreign Ministers be considered that these are not cruft and served with a important purpose as same with the G20 and the G8 in ministerial meetings? Likewise, it should be allowed to be recreated under condition that these is legitimate, had reliable sources (as evident in ministerial meeting along with the finance ministers) and should be allowed to be retained. Saiph121 (talk) 01:03, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Question

When I make a citation, I usually include a name for the website (i.e. "website=AllMusic"). However, I notice that sometimes the mentions of website name get removed. I was wondering if the way I've been doing it is wrong. I usually would rather err on the side of ding too much rather than too little. What would be the best thing for me to do in the instance of the AllMusic citations, say in a big article like Garage rock? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garagepunk66 (talk • contribs) 18:26, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Garagepunk66, I am assuming you are talking about this edit? you added |website=AllMusic twice to the same citation, once before the URL and once after the title. we don't need duplicate parameters. Frietjes (talk) 18:32, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I see. I had it mentioned twice. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garagepunk66 (talk • contribs) 18:52, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox prev/next layouts

Heyo. So I've been noticing that there is really no consistency with how "previous" and "next" buttons are styled in infobox. This is mostly yearly events that point back/forward one year to the previous/next event. I was thinking of starting a discussion about getting a good firm style in place. Do you have any thoughts on the matter? I was just going to post on the village pump for starters... --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:48, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Zackmann08, my only comments right now are (1) these are typically given class=noprint since they are generally pointless in the print version, (2) I personally prefer non-table version, e.g., Template:Infobox film awards or Template:Infobox college football season or Template:Infobox television season and not Template:Infobox football club season (no real preference concerning the hlist markup), (3) I like ← and → over < > or other pseudo arrows, (4) you may want to check with WP:ACCESSIBILITY to see if there are any ways to make it generally better from the accessibility standpoint, (5) it may be a good idea to template it to avoid code repetition and variation where not needed. Frietjes (talk) 19:01, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds great to me! I'll post at the village pump and see if we can't get a good consensus... Maybe it can be folded into {{infobox}} somehow.... or a {{infobox previous-next}} type thing. --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:25, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Technical Barnstar
For your continued work on templates, particularly your dedication to templates that are insanely complicated, such as Template:Infobox country. Everyone wanted that template converted to use {{Infobox}}, but no one (including myself) wanted to put in the time and effort to make it happen. Way to step up and get it done! Keep up the amazing work. Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:35, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with Template:Convinfobox - "</noinclude>" is being rendered

Hi, I noticed a problem with another template (Template:Infobox mountain) where "</noinclude>" was appearing on the rendered template. I traced it back to Template:Convinfobox, which I notice you've been working on recently. Could you take a look and maybe revert it to a better working state? —Keenan Pepper 16:33, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keenan Pepper, can you point me to a page where you see the </noinclude>? Frietjes (talk) 16:35, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm seeing it on Sierra de la Ventana (mountains). I purged the page and it still shows </noinclude> in the elevation section. —Keenan Pepper 16:46, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keenan Pepper, it was BU Rob13 who broke it with this edit, now fixed. Frietjes (talk) 16:49, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Great, I knew you could probably fix it much faster than I could. =) I also notice that Template:Convinfobox/testcases isn't working properly but that's a much less urgent problem of course... Thanks! —Keenan Pepper 16:52, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keenan Pepper, yes, the testcases page is fixed now as well. with 38k transclusions it will take some time for the cache to purge. Frietjes (talk) 16:54, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That's a very odd Twinkle bug. I'll report it later today. ~ Rob13Talk 21:54, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

coords_ref

Hi Frietjes, I often see you pop up on my watchlist and I appreciate all of the maintenance and template work you do. Could I ask, why are you removing |coords_ref= from {{Infobox protected area}}, such as was done here? The parameter is not deprecated per the Infobox's documentation, and is actually "strongly recommended". I've been using it quite a bit lately, much preferred to the clunkiness of using |notes= in {{coords}}. Thanks again - Antepenultimate (talk) 17:27, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Antepenultimate, you can place the reference directly after the coordinates. Frietjes (talk) 17:29, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Huh, so you can. For some reason I seem to recall trying that a long time ago, and getting all sorts of locmap errors. Thanks again! - Antepenultimate (talk) 17:42, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) {{Location map}} was recently updated to support the {{Coord}} template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:32, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rikers Island

@Frietjes: I don't see the error you indicate on Rikers Island in the protected area template. It appears to make no visual difference in the display of the template, however it is a "strongly recommended" field for Template:Infobox protected area. —DIY Editor (talk) 19:21, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) @DIY Editor: There is no |ucn_category= parameter. There is a |iucn_category= parameter, but adding that would require a source. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:19, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Merry, merry!

From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 18:51, 26 December 2016 (UTC) [reply]

Help please?

So weird issue... I'm finding a number of templates that I've converted are still showing up in Category:Templates suitable for conversion to use Template:Infobox... For example, Template:Infobox NCAA Softball Tournament and Template:Infobox Iwi. Any idea what is causing them to still be categorized? --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:18, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Doing a null-edit on template page "fixes" the problem. You can search in some of latest VPT archives - there was related thread. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 17:57, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

peer review

Heyo! Hope you are having a great holiday season. I wanted to see if I could get you to look over Template:Infobox NCAA Basketball Game/sandbox and give me some critique. I was going to nix the AP/Coaches boxes... But could certainly add those in if needed. Other than that, what do you think of the new layout? Any feedback/assistance is 100% welcome!!! Thanks in advance. --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:02, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Zackmann08, I made some changes. the testcases look good to me. typically, I avoid removing or significantly changing functionality in the conversion. it's better to do that in a separate step, with discussion on the talk page, to avoid backlash. Frietjes (talk) 14:58, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Processing overhead

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You used "reduce processing overhead from large numerical gaps" to justify this edit, which I've reverted. There is no processing overhead as Module:Infobox assembles a table of the numeric prefixes in lines 29–40. It doesn't matter to Lua whether the numbers go from data1 to data28 in steps of 1 or from data1000 to data28000 in steps of 1000 - the processing using that algorithm is identical. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 22:44, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

RexxS, if large gaps do nothing, then explain what you see here. Frietjes (talk) 13:37, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
so you don't have to spend too much time reading the code for Module:Infobox. in order to have the references processed in the correct order, avoiding a backend server bug, the code actually goes through the numbers sequentially, starting from 1 (search for function preprocessArgs(prefixTable, step) in the module code). but, to try to avoid massive amounts of overhead from large gaps, it terminates if it finds a gap larger than a threshold (around 50 for the first gap). basically, going in batches of 50 and terminating if no parameters are found in the batch. Frietjes (talk) 14:01, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Right - I can see that there's a problem when the numeric gap between numbered parameters like dataNN is greater than 50, although my edits didn't introduce any gap greater than 8. I'll strike my hyperbole. Nevertheless, I've read the code in function preprocessArgs(prefixTable, step) and I don't see any recognisable overhead. Line 318 creates an outer count-controlled loop which goes in steps of 50 when processing the labelNN and dataNN parameters, but the inner loop at line 319 uses the ipairs iterator which only traverses the existing elements of the prefixTable array. Regardless of the numeric gap (as long as it's less than 50, I agree), each element is processed no more than once and no processing is attempted on non-existent elements. Surely you're not concerned about the number of times the outer loop is performed? The overhead for loops like that are measured in sub-microsecond times on modern processors. No, I still maintain that in Template:Infobox horseracing personality: (1) the 28 label/data items are processed in the same time whether they are numbered 1 to 30 step 1, or 5 to 110 step (2 to 8) as I'd arranged it; and (2) there is no attempt in the code to process the non-existent parameters like data6, data7, etc. in the latter scheme. I'm at a loss to see where the "processing overhead from large numerical gaps" comes from in the actual case of your edit. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 15:41, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
RexxS, the larger the gaps, the more loops in the preprocessing. whether or not this is significant in terms of processing time is debatable. clearly the number 50 was selected to be large enough to allow for gaps, but not too large to add significant overhead. but if you can avoid the extra looping, I don't see why you wouldn't. clearly you have some reason for it. Frietjes (talk) 15:47, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, if the parameter numbering goes from from 1 to 28, then the outer loop executes once, processing all 28. Whereas if the numbering is from 5 to 110 (with steps varying between 2 and 8), then the outer loop executes three times, processing 11, 13 and 4 parameters on successive passes. There are still 28 parameters processed either way. Although I do concede there actually is some overhead in the time taken to process the loop code, it really is negligible compared to the other processing and I'd be astonished if it couldn't be safely ignored. The reason why I choose to place gaps roughly of size 5 between the numbered data parameters in an infobox under development is to make life easier for the next person who needs to insert a new parameter (which might be me) – that's really my only consideration. I accept that a mature infobox that is unlikely to have new parameters added could conceivably squeeze a few microseconds of extra performance by renumbering the data/label/header parameters consecutively. I should say I appreciate your JavaScript that automates the task of creating a gap – it would be very useful to expedite adding a new parameter in the case of a stable infobox with consecutively numbered parameters. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 16:43, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Playoff series score template

Heyoo. How's it going? Happy new year! Wanted to bounce an idea off of ya. I recently converted {{Infobox World Series}} over to use {{Infobox}}. One of the things I was thinking of adding to the template (as a separate addition) was a section that showed the scores of the games in the same style as {{Infobox Stanley Cup Finals}}. The Stanley cup template uses {{Infobox game score}} to achieve this. While that works... it is really designed for the score of a particular game, not of a series. I was thinking of creating a similar template that would be designed for a multi-game series. Most notably a playoff. Unlike {{Infobox game score}} there would be no need to have the total score at the end. Also, would be great to make the winning score for each game bold, and then an option to make the winning team bold. Wanted to see if you had any thoughts. I'll probably start working on the template soon as {{Infobox sports series scores}} (unless you have a recommendation for a better name). OPen to any thoughts! --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:04, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oliveto Citra

Hi, is a a way you can make the communal map shrunk at default and a "click to view comune locator" option? It's pretty ugly that's all. All of the comunes of Italy ought to have a shrinkable locator built in now, but might be time consuming to do unless you can programme it into the template coding to display it, not sure if the file names are consistant enough to do that.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:27, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:Dr. Blofeld, post a thread at Template talk:Infobox Italian comune and if there are no objections, I will work on it. Frietjes (talk) 14:29, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks. I did promote Cortina d'Ampezzo two years ago (how time flies) which also has a communcal map. Don't like the yellow maps, but they are useful and should be consistent across all of the comunes I think. Perhaps sometime they'll all be updaded with more aesthetically pleasing svgs.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:32, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User:Dr. Blofeld, if your only objection is the colour, you should ask one of the graphics experts to change the colour for you. it's very easy to change the colour of an svg, since it's encoded in plain text. Frietjes (talk) 14:36, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I think they're mostly gifs though not svgs. I've left a request on the comune page, cheers.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:37, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User:Dr. Blofeld, I think there are svgs for all of them, looking at c:Category:Maps of municipalities of the province of Belluno and related categories. Frietjes (talk) 14:39, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not Salerno!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:43, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ice hockey box note

I am trying to add the occasional note for something unusual to game summaries in the ice hockey boxes, but am having a problem. if I just use "note=" then it does not collapse with the summary and if I call it "pnote=" if collapses but displays in duplicate. Is there some other way to do a note like in the 2016 IIHF World U18 Championship Division I Hungary/Ukraine game to explain Kreisz's assessed goal, in a tidier way?18abruce (talk) 18:05, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

18abruce, thank you for finding the pnote bug, I have no idea why I didn't see that before. maybe no one was using pnote? now fixed. Frietjes (talk) 18:13, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hey thanks, I just have to try to remember where else I have left notes like that.18abruce (talk) 18:17, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
18abruce, if it would help, I can create a temporary tracking category for you with all the pages using |note=. Frietjes (talk) 18:23, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It is a very rare occurance, not sure it is worth your time. I fixed one other that I knew to be very peculiar and am satisfied with that for now.18abruce (talk) 18:27, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
18abruce, I added Category:Pages using icehockeybox with the note parameter, but it will take time for the server to fill the category. Frietjes (talk) 19:58, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of pages with empty tags

Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/085 dump. I have not checked which could be easily fixed. I got vert busy today. you may want to have a look. Happy new year!! -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:32, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Australian election candidates

Hey there. A bit late here, but - you changed a bunch of Australian election candidate tables' format back in November (e.g. Candidates of the Australian federal election, 1928), but not all of them (two elections later, Candidates of the Australian federal election, 1931 is unchanged, as are many many more at both federal and state level). What was the rationale behind this? I don't object, particularly, but I do wonder why it was done as I don't notice any particular improvement and it seems like a big undertaking. Either way, can you please either apply it to all of them or revert the changes you made? I and others spent a lot of time making these things consistent. Hope you had a lovely Christmas/New Year! Frickeg (talk) 06:03, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Frickeg, it looks like it was while I was working on the party colour templates. I do like the simplified class="wikitable" better, but I understand the desire for uniformity. do you have a preference for one format over the other. I have reversed my change for now. even better would probably be to create a header template to make sure they are all completely consistent. thank you. Frietjes (talk) 14:02, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your response! I don't know that I really do have a preference one way or the other. The wikitable format does seem simpler and a little cleaner on the page, but I don't know that it would be worth the effort to roll it out over the hundreds and hundreds of these pages (unless there is some automated way to do it - I don't know much about that stuff). I'm not sure a header template would work as each election requires different columns for different parties. Frickeg (talk) 22:41, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Frickeg, I'm probably leave it the way it is for now. the different columns aspect isn't that difficult to do, since you can just make the party names part of the input and count (see Template:Canadian politics/candlist header). the benefit would be complete uniformity and simplicity of the wikicode in articles. but, as you said, changing them would require changing around 1000 pages (by my estimation). again, not that serious of a problem, since it could be scripted by bot. but, that would require a bot request and coding etc. thank you for the feedback, and I will let you know if I decide to do something more. Frietjes (talk) 14:27, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Area code maps template

I want to add my thanks and, if you didn't already have those barnstars I'd add one for figuring out how to move the clickable maps for the area codes for California, Texas and Pennsylvania to templates. I was worried about this, especially for California, because it has something like 19 current area codes and more will follow. This was definitely a maintenance headache every time they added an overlay or split an area code, all the pages had to be changed. In fact, I had to switch from PNG image maps to SVG raster maps in order to reduce the amount of work to update a map, since SVG images can be edited and updated, ordinary images like PNG have to be rebuilt. This will make it easier to make corrections. Again, thanks; I had wanted to move the map to a template for several years now but could not figure out how to get it to work.

There is only one minor and small detail I recommend and I have put it in the California one, which is to include in the description box a mention that the map is clickable and one can go to any area code on the map by clicking on it. Other than that small and not-very-important minor detail I think you did a fantastic job. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) (talk) 22:30, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Robinson (Rfc1394), if I recall, I generally just moved the code from the articles to the template, so the wording was generally as it was in the articles. since my initial efforts, the wording has been changed by other editors. feel free to change it to whatever you want. my point was to simplify the articles and reduce code redundancy. Frietjes (talk) 14:30, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:UF-hcard-geo

Thanks for that... Major oversight on my part. Just clicked "edit" on the last heading. --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:45, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox military installation and Template:Infobox Burg

Have you looked at Template:Infobox Burg in relation to Template:Infobox military installation and its handling of coordinates? The former needs someone smarter than I to convert it to the new coordinates system. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:05, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jonesey95, I had forgotten about that one. should work now. Frietjes (talk) 19:50, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Should this template be converted to a subst-only template? It has always struck me as wrong to have foreign-language templates resident in the English Wikipedia. There are currently 230 transclusions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:52, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Jonesey95, the instructions say it should be substituted. I don't see any serious problem with making it auto substituted. if there is something that doesn't get converted, then it can always be added later by grabbing stuff from the corresponding German article. Frietjes (talk) 20:54, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I marked it for auto-substitution after testing a few, adding |format=dms to the {{coord}} template call to make it match the previous usage, and checking to ensure that problems mentioned on the talk page had been resolved. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:18, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Help with an Infobox

Greetings! You are my go to gal for help with all things Infobox... Hope that isn't a bother. You are just super good with them! I'm working on Template:Infobox hurricane current/sandbox and am wondering if you have any tips for how best to do the top bar. I've got it kind of working at the moment but not a big fan of the code. Obviously it is still a work in progress. Still missing a bunch of stuff in the body of the template but wanted to see if I could get your input on the top part. Thanks in advance! --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:35, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:Zackmann08, you could probably do it with a floating div, but tables are more robust. see, for example Template:Infobox hurricane current/sandbox2 and the testcases. Frietjes (talk) 20:10, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well... You took it and ran. lol. Looks great!!! Do you want to merge it in the main or should I? I don't want to take credit for your work... --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:34, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Zackmann08, I don't need the credit. if I did, I wouldn't edit on WP. thank you for pushing forward and updating the main template. Frietjes (talk) 14:07, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

TFD on template:List of United States Post Offices

Please consider commenting at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2017_January_17#Template:List_of_United_States_Post_Offices, a deletion proposal. You participated in previous Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2016_November_3#Template:United_States_Postal_Service, a merger proposal. --doncram 20:25, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox tennis tournament event

Hi, I updated this template to display a 'Details' header if the field 'Draw' (or 'Seeds') has a value but is seems to display by default regardless of any value (example with 'Draw' field value, example without 'Draw' field value). Would appreciate if you can have a look and tell me what I'm doing wrong. Cheers, --Wolbo (talk) 20:24, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wolbo, fixed. I have no idea why we are using the whole yes/no logic in some places, instead of just using whether or not the subsequent labels/data are empty. Frietjes (talk) 20:28, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thx! I'm not a template expert but the code you used seems simpler, more straightforward than the yes/no construction it replaced. --Wolbo (talk) 02:42, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Question on a color box idea

Frietjes, I have an idea for the color boxes and team colors, but not sure if it is possible... Many of the conference pages have a "colors" section in their members sections. Instead of having them manually inserted, is there a way we could incorporate the {{color box}} into the module with a code in the likes of {{color box|team=Emporia State Hornets}}? It would then produce either both colors like it would in the infobox (   ) or we could separate it and do something like the primary or secondary color like in {{CollegePrimaryStyle}} & {{CollegeSecondaryStyle}} which would list them individually... Thoughts? Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 19:02, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Corkythehornetfan, we have {{College color list|team=Emporia State Hornets}}, so it would be very easy to create a new template and module function to do just the second part. call it {{college color boxes}} or something else? Frietjes (talk) 13:49, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I forgot about the list! {{college color boxes}} sounds fine to me... keeping it consistent with the others! Let me know if you need anything else from me. Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 23:26, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Corkythehornetfan, see Template:College color boxes, the examples should explain the usage. Frietjes (talk) 15:47, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You're the best, Frietjes! Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 17:10, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to lake Infoboxes

Hello, in lake articles I noticed you changed the ordering of some {{Infobox body of water}} parameters. For example with this edit, the pushpin_ parameters are now after caption. In the template documentation, they appear near the end. So I'm wondering if that ordering is no longer recommended. Thanks Declangi (talk) 22:13, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Declangi, in that series of edits, I was merging the coordinates passed through |coords= with the coordinates passed through |latd=, |longd=, etc. and identifying unsupported parameters. to do that in a safe and automated way, I have a script that sorts all the of the infobox fields first, sorting in the order that the fields appear in the infobox. so, since the pushpin_map appears after the top image, but before the image_bathymetry, that's where it was sorted. the edit that you saw was while I was still working on the script, so it was done in two steps. feel free to move the map parameters back if you want them to appear elsewhere in the wikitext. just don't add articles to Category:Pages using infobox body of water with unknown parameters :) if possible. we are down to under 100 and I hope to have the category emptied soon. thank you. Frietjes (talk) 13:56, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your reply here. I understand that you are working on a larger fix of unsupported parameters. When creating Infoboxes in new articles for lakes (and elsewhere), I try to order the parameters as they appear in the template documentation. I realise this doesn't change the final rendering of these templates, but I'm trying to be consistent with the ordering for easier editing. No worries, I don't feel any need to change any edits you've done. Declangi (talk) 08:59, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Pages using infobox historic site with ambiguous coordinates nominated for deletion

I marked Category:Pages using infobox historic site with ambiguous coordinates as a speedy delete after removing the tracking category and all of the lat/long parameters from {{infobox historic site}}. Remove the speedy template if I did this in error. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:25, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jonesey95, looks good and thank you for fixing the error in the body of water template. as a general rule, I am definitely in favour of removing the old tracking parameters as long as we keep the general unknown tracking in there to catch any that pop up (or ones that were redundant to the general |coordinates=). also, I am definitely in favour of deleting unused tracking categories. it might be a useful exercise to get a list of all empty categories marked as {{tracking category}} and/or {{empty category}} and then do a 'insource:/category name/' search to see if they are absent from any template code. I imagine it happens quite often that someone removes the tracking from the template but doesn't delete the category. Frietjes (talk) 14:04, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox rugby biography

So I'm working on converting this bad boy over to use {{Infobox}}. Making good headway but I wanted to see if you could help me with one issue. How do I make child infoboxes full width? If you look at the sandbox you will see that the sub-boxes are indented. How do I fix that? I'm still working on the template but if you could point me in the right direction I would appreciate it! Thanks. --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:53, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:Zackmann08, if I were you, I would follow {{infobox football biography}} and not use any child or subboxes. to get the different header coloring, I would use <div>...</div> inside the headers, or I could add a headerXXstyle' parameter to {{infobox3cols}}. Frietjes (talk) 20:17, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If I was creating this template from scratch I would totally go that route. The issue here is that entire sections need to be hidden if certain data is not included. Using suboxes makes that much easier to do. --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:22, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User:Zackmann08, how is that different from {{infobox football biography}}? Frietjes (talk) 20:25, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
{{infobox football biography}} has each separate year/club combo with its own param. {{Infobox rugby biography}} is not setup that way. In order to hide the header row that is in each section I would need to have a ton of identical if statements on multiple lines. This is much clearer and easier to read. If you have a better approach that you would like to implement I have zero objections and would love to see it! This just is the best that I could come up with. --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:34, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Temple templates

Hi there! Thanks for your efforts on templates for the LDS Church's temples. While I certainly know this wasn't intentional, however it happened, & it's possible none of your editing efforts caused this, but something has significantly impacted this article and its associated list. All the temples from those dedicated in the 2010s and on through all announced has been altered. Any thoughts? Thanks so much! ChristensenMJ (talk) 20:56, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ChristensenMJ, that's unfortunate! the new more accurate map has put that page in Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded. I will see if I can come up with another solution, but, until then, I have reverted my changes to the map. Frietjes (talk) 21:02, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, yep - I hope you find a way through that will allow the great intent of your efforts to proceed. Thanks so much! ChristensenMJ (talk) 21:03, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:SLBC

Template:SLBC has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. tahc chat 22:48, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:SLBD

Template:SLBD has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. tahc chat 22:48, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:M1 year in topic and/or Template:M1YearInTopic (no calendar)

I wish to have Template:M1YearInTopic and/or Template:M1YearInTopic (no calendar) fixed to show different lists, lists by century instead of lists that do not exist.

Do you know how to code such fixes? tahc chat 03:58, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:Tahc, so basically, you want to avoid redlinks and redirects? I think it's possible, for example, {{#invoke:redirect|main|List of sovereign states in 500}} returns List of political entities in the 5th century. so, presumably, you could just wrap the link target to avoid linking to the redirect page. Frietjes (talk) 15:07, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It is more than just avoiding links to the redirect page. In many or most cases of [List of sovereign states in 000], those page-redirect do not even exist. We would have to create hundreds of pages just to make them redirects. In all cases of [List of religious leaders in 000] (for the 1st millennium), those page-redirect do not even exist. See these examples:
It seems that it would work for okay for [List of state leaders in 000], as those all those page-redirects do seem to exist. I will try it when I get a chance. tahc chat 15:43, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User:Tahc, you can start by checking if the page exists using {{#ifexist:}}, do something in that case, then if the page does exist, check to see if it's a redirect. Frietjes (talk) 15:46, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for all your feedback, but I am not sure what you are proposing here. I am also not very familiar with "{{#ifexist:}}". To make this work, we seem to need the template take the year/page-name and convert it to the number for the century.
If you proposing using an "ifexist" code to find which page-redirect do not exist so that I can create them-- then I have other ways to find them that would be easier for me--but I want to avoiding creating all the page-redirects if I can (and especially avoid creating them by hand).
If you proposing using an "ifexist" code on-the-fly to find know which pages need to convert the year/page-name and convert it to the number for the century-- then I we still need a way to do that convertion. How do we do that? 16:00, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
User:Tahc, I am proposing to use "ifexist" to avoid generating red links. Frietjes (talk) 16:01, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Let me note here that I also posted this question (yesterday) at Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests#Editing a template to convert year-number to the number of the century. If you think a 3rd editor can help us, maybe we should move this discussion there. tahc chat 16:06, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User:Tahc, give me an example page where the linking is undesirable, and I will fix it. Frietjes (talk) 16:10, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
We could use "ifexist" to avoid generating red links-- but then no year-page whould ever link to [List of Xth-century religious leaders]. How do we make year pages link to the [List of Xth-century religious leaders] for the 5th to 10th century? tahc chat 16:16, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
488 does not link to List of 5th-century religious leaders nor to List of political entities in the 5th century. Thank you. tahc chat 16:16, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User:Tahc, I made some changes. let me know if you see any problems. I still need to tweak the code to handle AD 100 and possibly BC? Frietjes (talk) 16:40, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
List of 5th-century religious leaders and List of political entities in the 5th century work fine from 2nd century onward. Thank you.
For some reason [List of political entities in the Xth century] does not show up anywhere that I can see... (but I might have fixed it here.)
Also AD 100 works fine already, but AD 99 does not nor (it seems) and other year AD 1 to AD 99. Any ideas? tahc chat 17:34, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User:Tahc, I made some changes so AD 99 is now showing some links. are there any links missing that should be in there? Frietjes (talk) 19:40, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
So I tried to refresh my browser on AD 99, but it shows no links. AD 100 still links to List of state leaders in the 1st century, but AD 99 does not. I see that write above that it does show "some links" for you, much I am not sure why. Maybe I will try this evening on my home computer.
See also User talk:Frietjes#List of political entities in the Xth century below. tahc chat 15:41, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User:Tahc, is that better? Frietjes (talk) 16:00, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
JFG and I substituted {{Year in various calendars}} for {{M1 year in topic}} on most of the pages AD 1 to AD 100 (a few of which have now been reverted). This change forms part of the promotion of 1 (number) to replace AD 1 as the primary topic for the title 1, and similarly for 2..100, as discussed at Talk:AD 1 (partly archived). Certes (talk) 01:09, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Certes, okay, so does that template have the same linking problem? Frietjes (talk) 01:11, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think so, as "Year in various calendars" doesn't have the "... in topic" box. JFG is the expert on this, but one reason is that in each single topic in each single year of the first century, very little happened, and many of the links would lead to an empty list. Certes (talk) 01:18, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Certes, okay, let me know if you want me to do something here. Frietjes (talk) 01:19, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing to do, but we should probably keep AD 1..100 consistent as to whether they use {{Year in various calendars}} or {{M1 year in topic}}. Certes (talk) 01:24, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Certes, sure, again, let me know if the template is generating the wrong links. I have no plans to rename any articles. Frietjes (talk) 01:26, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Frietjes, Certes, and Tahc: Thanks for the ping. The template changes by Frietjes work well. The display of the "year by topic" box is an editorial decision. When we modified the articles for years AD 1…AD 99, we removed that box because it pointed only to red links or mostly-empty categories for births and deaths. We left it alone from AD 100 onwards. Since then, we have worked to group all births and deaths by decade, you can see the result at 20s for example, this solved the granularity issue. We want to apply the same logic to categories, so that for example Category:22 births will be deleted and all births from that year will be in Category:20s births directly instead of going through the year 22 subcategory. This grouping of events by decades is a more productive level of granularity for this period of history. It could probably be applied to years later than AD 100 (for a few centuries where data is sparse), but this should be discussed after we complete the process for the 1st century and check that it all looks coherent. As Tahc noted, the appropriate level of granularity for state leaders and political entities may well be the century over the whole first millennium AD. — JFG talk 04:09, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:BC year in topic

Template:M1 year in topic does not need to work in years BC because it is not on those pages. All the years BC seem to have this template instead. Can you make Template:BC year in topic work to show these lists by century?

User:Tahc, is this what you wanted? Frietjes (talk) 19:43, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of political entities in the Xth century

The are no links to [List of political entities in the Xth century] anywhere still. Not in the range for Template:M1 year in topic (1st millennium AD) nor for Template:BC year in topic (all years BC). I did rename all those pages from "List of sovereign states in the Xth century BC" to "List of political entities in the Xth century BC" if they were not already, but I do not know what else to do.
Can you see the issue... or is it working better on your browser? tahc chat 15:41, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User:Tahc, I made some changes. is that better? Frietjes (talk) 16:00, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"List of political entities in the Xth century" does show up now for all the AD years, including AD 1 - AD 99.
"List of political entities in the Xth century" does not shows up the BC years. Can you do the same thing for Template:BC year in topic you did in AD? tahc chat 16:09, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User:Tahc, I made some changes. is that better? Frietjes (talk) 16:15, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. They all look perfect now. tahc chat 17:48, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tidy replacement and templates.

@Jonesey95:. I'm not sure if you are interested in this or not, but as you are my goto for template related stuff...

With Tidy being replaced shortly, there are somethings that need to be fixed in templates. I've run CheckWiki on template space. There are just over 1,000 templates with tag issues like </b> and <center />, which will be an error under Tidy's replacement. A big chunk are <br clear=all>, which isn't valid HTML anymore. There are other things like missing closing tags and section header issues.

Jonesey was interested in the tag issues, not sure if you are or not Frietjes. I can make a list with all the issues or lists which contain just one type of issue, for example </br>. I can make a list of any other CheckWiki issue, but many of them don't apply to templates. Bgwhite (talk) 05:58, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, please make a list of the tag issues and the br clear=all tags. One big list is fine with me. I can adjust my script to deal with whatever is on there.
If I had my preference, the missing closing tags and section header issues would go on a separate list. That list might have some false positives on it, because template editors are a perverse bunch and sometimes like to put a <tr> in the main template and the matching </tr> in a transcluded subtemplate, or other such madness. Technically valid, but ugly and hard to validate.
Try to make it relatively easy for you to regenerate the script output so that we can see what is left after a first pass. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:09, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Jonesey95 It's just a simple grep or running a list generating program I made to separate things out into different lists... been generating different CheckWiki lists for awhile. I'm not sure what format you want... text or wikilinks. User:Bgwhite/Sandbox is the wikilink version of <br clear=xxx>. User:Bgwhite/Sandbox1 is the text version. Bgwhite (talk) 10:06, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Jonesey95 Bgwhite for the br clear=all tag, your best option is probably to just replace it with {{clear}}. I'm more interested in knowing about the table tags. in particular, the method used by {{infobox}} to generate a child box requires tidy. there was some discussion at Template talk:Infobox settlement about how to fix it, but it's not clear to me what the replacement to tidy will fix and won't fix. more general discussions about that should probably be at template talk:infobox. Frietjes (talk) 13:45, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Should "br clear=left" be replaced with {{clear left}}? I've always just used {{clear}}, but I'm guessing there is some subtlety that I might break if I replaced a "left" with a plain "clear". Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:09, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Jonesey95 either {{clear left}} or {{clear|left}}. similar for right. Frietjes (talk) 16:11, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bgwhite, I have edited the 200 templates that you put on your sandbox page. I was reverted once for breaking a link (I implemented a different fix), and I expect there are a couple more templates that caused subtle (or terrible) changes to the pages in which they are transcluded, but I haven't been yelled at yet. Feel free to make me another list. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:18, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jonesey95 Next list is at User:Bgwhite/Sandbox. It contains <br style="clear:xxx;">. Bgwhite (talk) 23:59, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
My script can replace these, but I am unable to find a definitive source saying that CSS styling of br tags is deprecated or will cause problems in Tidy. I would like to have that assurance before changing so many templates.
Maybe Whatamidoing (WMF) or someone else can give us a link to a definitive source (or better, a test of en.WP without Tidy turned on to see the behavior of such a tag). – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:43, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
<br style="clear:xxx;"> is invalid HTML. The <br /> tag is an inline element and the clear property is a block-level element, thus they are incompatible. From Wikipedia talk:HTML5#What's found, Redrose64 states, Of particular note is that the CSS spec indicates that the clear: property "applies to: block-level elements", and the <br /> element is not block-level, but inline. This is why it was added to CheckWiki and why the br clear template was redirected to the clear template. Redrose is infinitely smarter than I am when it comes to HTML, so can answer questions better. Tidy's backend replacement (Nu) does say this is valid HTML. If you are not comfortable, just skip to the next list. As you mentioned the evil Whatamidoing, I've got a bunch of template space TOC and section heading accessibility lists with her name on it. :) Bgwhite (talk) 07:44, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I read that discussion and walked away from it with more things in my head but not as much clarity as I would have liked. As much as I love and believe Redrose64, I was hoping for a link to what we here at the Wikipedias call a "reliable source". – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:19, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Jonesey95, thanks for identifying the problem with using a {{clear}} inside of a wikilink. you were correct to replace that case with a simple <br />. I know editors are frequently using {{br}} instead of <br>, that could be a more common problem. Frietjes (talk) 14:27, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the relevant bit, edited down a little.
The clear: property of CSS 2.1 indicates that the clear: property "applies to: block-level elements", and the <br /> element is not block-level, but inline. -- 20:01, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
The more recent CSS 2.2 spec (which is still not formalised, it's a "First Public Working Draft") dated 12 April 2016 also indicates that it applies to block-level elements.
I did not explain "block-level element" and "inline element" at the time; the W3C don't seem to use those terms any more in HTML5 (which is what Wikipedia has served for a few years now), but here is the description for HTML 4.01. Instead, in HTML5 they call them "flow content" and "phrasing content" respectively, and the br element is described as both flow content and as phrasing content. This would suggest that <br /> is both a block-level element and an inline element, depending upon its context. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 15:09, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
So given the above, and given that the new validator says that styled br tags are valid, we should probably not mess with them. Is that conclusion I should draw? If at some point in the future we see them causing a problem, we can always replace them at that point. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:43, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Jonesey95 The last list is up. Some of these might not be obvious as to what is wrong, so User:Bgwhite/Sandbox1 shows the error. The errors that look like a normal br tag has a newline in it. There's probably more than one error in each template. After you've fixed these, I can check these articles again for errors. Bgwhite (talk) 06:04, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
All done, but you should run the report again to find the ones I missed. The explanation page was very helpful. Some of them were bizarre. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:53, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You got them all. Bgwhite (talk) 20:20, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The above wished-for seeing what a page will look like without Tidy turned on is in the pipeline. It's running just a bit later than I'd originally hoped for, so "soon" but probably not this week. I believe it will be a Labs tool that any interested person can voluntarily use on demand. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:24, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Prev/next template

Would love to hear your input and thoughts on User:Zackmann08/Prev-next. --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:27, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:Zackmann08, have you seen {{succession links}}? Frietjes (talk) 19:49, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ha.... Uh.... That would be a no.... Well then. I guess that settles that. :-p I like yours! Well done! --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:16, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Question, was there a reason that you didn't use {{autolink}} in the template? --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:19, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User:Zackmann08, I have seen cases where a red links is desired, since the target is plausible, just not created yet. and, it simplifies the logic to have the 'ifexist' in the transcluding template, not in the succession links template. I also opted to not use the 'hlist' since the 'center' item is frequently not part of the same list of items as the before and after. Frietjes (talk) 20:24, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Both are awesome points!! Totally agree. THanks! --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:29, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User:Zackmann08, the only issue with using <div>...</div> for the alignment is that the links may overflow outside of the infobox in some rare cases. I don't know of a robust way to enforce that the links are always contained in the infobox without using tables for alignment. but, the actual implementation can be changed if there is a problem in practise. Frietjes (talk) 20:34, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

template help

Can you help me on {{IMJ-Collections}}? Currently, the template takes in a first and last name as inputs. The museum people have cases where only one name will be used. Can you fix the template is it works with one or two names? Bgwhite (talk) 20:23, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bgwhite, should work now. both blank returns a ? for the query, but we could make it something else. Frietjes (talk) 20:32, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Bgwhite (talk) 22:14, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox GrandSlamTournamentsDisciplines

Hi Frietjes, I made some updates to the sandbox of this template – added an 'Editions' field, added two headers and shortened a few labels. Looking at the testcase it seems to work but then I found that the syntax of the sandbox differs significantly from that of the template itself. Can you advise on how to best implement this, i.e. which version of the syntax is preferred (if any)? Thx. --Wolbo (talk) 02:53, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wolbo, I couldn't resist messing with it. I have updated the template to use, what I think, is an improved format. I have also updated the articles to use |Color=XYZ instead of the old syntax. feel free to modify it more if there is something wrong with what I have done. Frietjes (talk) 14:13, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Frietjes, thanks for the help! Made a few small changes (formatting, field order) and the result looks good.--Wolbo (talk) 00:31, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Gave the related infoboxes the same width, in line with {{Infobox tennis biography}}. Makes it a bit easier to scan/read the labels and saves a small amount of vertical space.--Wolbo (talk) 15:32, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
the solution is to either (a) make 23em the default for {{infobox}} or (b) not specify the width, otherwise you would have to change all possible combinations of infoboxes and sidebars to make them match. Frietjes (talk) 16:30, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Do you know of a good way to prevent the arrows used to indicate the previous and next editions from being displayed on different lines, e.g. 2015 Western & Southern Open? With shorter tournament names, e.g. 2014 Sony Open Tennis, the arrows display neatly on the same line. --Wolbo (talk) 16:23, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Wolbo, there are two options there, (1) add nowrap which will stretch the box, or (2) move the middle link above (e.g., see the second option in {{succession links}}). Frietjes (talk) 16:30, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
see this thread. Frietjes (talk) 16:34, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Would using nowrap be a better option visually because having the title above and a bunch of gray space underneath looks a bit odd. Adamtt9 (talk) 18:06, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Hi, Frietjes. Do you know how to combine several merged tags with the multi-copied tag. I have particularly in mind the talk pages of ExxonMobil and Oil shale. Beagel (talk) 16:39, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Beagel (talk) 18:06, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Village Pump RFC

Because of your input on previous discussions, I wanted to bring your attention to a discussion I have started at the Village Pump regarding the use of foreign languages in templates. --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:17, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tennis Templates

I have one question for you. Is there anyway for the format of the event infobox to be changed so that nothing wraps to a new line but it still looks like the way it did maybe a couple of days ago. Meaning, is there a way where the first link is to the previous edition, followed by minimum space and what seems to me a small dot or filled circle, followed by the title and another circle/dot, followed by the after edition? Adamtt9 (talk) 22:37, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

noindex,nofollow

Hello, there is a html robots tags with the value of "noindex,nofollow" on some of my articles such as Cody Strong and TheRoyalStampede, I've been wondering why my articles are not being indexed but after a month, I see it now, can you please check where it's coming from? thanks in advance Mjbmr (talk) 16:11, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mjbmr, my guess is that might have something to do with unpatrolled new pages, but someone like Happy-melon could probably answer your question. or you could try asking at WP:VPT. Frietjes (talk) 17:41, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have other unpatrolled pages such as OmarGoshTV which are indexed. Mjbmr (talk) 18:57, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, If you put a ?action=info on them, it says "Indexing by robots: Allowed". Mjbmr (talk) 19:13, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Mjbmr, in that case, I would suggest asking at WP:VPT. Frietjes (talk) 19:23, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

findargdps Haplogroup R1b

Hi, this script quickly found an error in Haplogroup R1b correctly, but its "fix" was also incorrect and made content invisible. So I have reverted, but an issue remains.

I know that the error, whatever it is, is blanking any content on the line (beginning "1= ") after "R-L388* (R1b1a1*). Concentrated in Europe, the Mediterranean basin and Anatolia." (I have put the text where it is as a workaround.)

When I try to fix this manually, I get the following warning in preview "Warning: Haplogroup R1b is calling Template:Clade with more than one value for the "1" parameter. Only the last value provided will be used."

From the linked Help page, I get that a parameter or parameters is duplicated and needs to be renamed, but:

  • there don't seem to be any viable alternatives to the present names, without affecting the look of the "tree"
  • I don't get why there are actually multiple parameters with the same name (1=, 2= etc), but the problem only seems to be on one line.

I'm sure this stuff is obvious to people who do it day in, day out but it is elluding me right now. Any help would be appreciated. Grant | Talk 09:56, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:Grant65, you probably wanted to use 1= instead of label1=. I fixed it for you. adding duplicate parameters is never the solution. Frietjes (talk) 14:15, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. And please trust me when I say I still have no idea why it's OK to re-use some parameter names and not others. Grant | Talk 16:18, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User:Grant65, it's never okay to reuse the same parameter names within the same template, i.e., within the same {{ }}. Frietjes (talk) 16:20, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The critical part of your solution seems to be the deletion of an unnecessary | before the first }.
The problem is that lay users like me do not understand the connection between abstract terms like "parameter" and the } and | .
That is, it is difficult for lay editors to heed warnings/help pages unless they put these issues in terms that lay editors actually understand. Thanks again, Grant | Talk 19:59, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fluss

Hi, I closed this discussion. It would be great if you could go ahead and implement the substitute-only wrapper that you developed. Let me know if you need any help. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 04:05, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Okhotsk edits

Hi. So how does Ushki Bay, Tugur Bay, and Uda Gulf all have the exact same average depth of 36 m (118 ft)? What are your references for those figures? Google Maps and mapcarta don't supply that information. ST1849 (talk) 23:13, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ST1849, ask Xufanc who is the editor who added the depth figures. Frietjes (talk) 23:26, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Only one was correct; two of them were errors when cutting and pasting infoboxes. Xufanc (talk) 05:35, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
My mistake. I apologize. Thank you for the replies. ST1849 (talk) 18:56, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for making me aware of the mistakes. Xufanc (talk) 07:35, 15 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Blunders

Do you mind if I correct the two blunders I made to say importance=low instead?--Dthomsen8 (talk) 23:58, 13 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dthomsen8, can you remind me what you are talking about? I frequently edit around 500 to 1000 pages per day. Frietjes (talk) 00:00, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for merging of Template:Infobox Hindu leader

Template:Infobox Hindu leader has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox religious biography. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you.

Nomination for merging of Template:Mobile phone companies in Ukraine

Template:Mobile phone companies in Ukraine has been nominated for merging with Template:Ukraine mobile phone companies. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Islamomt (talk) 19:14, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Norway

Hi, I've noticed for Norway a lot of the articles have two infoboxes, one small one for former municipality. A bit cluttered and redundant. Is there a way you can code something so the infoboxes have a neat section with the former municipality information? an example is Skudeneshavn.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:22, 23 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:Dr. Blofeld, are you asking for a way to embed one infobox into the other to make a single infobox? or are you asking to have one of the infobox eliminated and replaced with a table? Frietjes (talk) 19:36, 23 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, neatly merge the former municipality box into infobox settlement and simply make it a neat subsection.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:54, 23 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
User:Dr. Blofeld, see this thread. Frietjes (talk) 20:12, 23 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Temporary edit?

I guess this is only a temporary edit, till such time as those parameters will be cleaned up from the template? Debresser (talk) 18:18, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Unknown parameter checks are increasingly common for infoboxes, where well-meaning editors add parameters that are unsupported quite often. Sometimes these parameters need to be replaced with actual parameters in order for the information to be displayed. The error checking makes it so that gnomes and other editors can find and fix these erroneous infobox parameters so that the original editors' intent can be carried out. Here's an example edit that changed an ignored parameter value to a visible one. Also see Category:Unknown parameters. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:49, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You mean permanently? Debresser (talk) 21:47, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Debresser, in some cases the tracking is being added indefinitely. in this particular case, I have removed it now that I have fixed all the transcluding articles. if someone wants to add it back, feel free, but I won't be monitoring it. Frietjes (talk) 21:49, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your reply. I have also worked on removing unused instances of parameters in template usage, many years ago, and also removed the tracking after a while. Debresser (talk) 21:54, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox election

What have you done to Template:Infobox election? Now the text in the infobox heading is shown aligned to the left! Impru20 (talk) 19:38, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Impru20, please comment at Template_talk:Infobox_election#Code_refactor and provide an example. Frietjes (talk) 19:39, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Flagathlete problem

There seems to be a problem with {{Flagathlete}} after your edits; it is adding a number of pages to Category:Pages with script errors, invisible errors so not too much of a problem but as such they make tracking visible errors far harder. It seems to be some flags but not others, with no obvious reason. Here e.g. is one which seems to cause the error (it might add your talk page to the category):

 Tyson Fury (UK)

But I can’t see why it is this and not others.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 17:24, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

JohnBlackburne, I was hoping that we were trapping the error. Primefac and I should be able to do something a bit cleaner to avoid the script errors and still track the cases where the lookup failed. Frietjes (talk) 18:20, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
JohnBlackburne, Frietjes and I are attempting to convert flagathlete to use {{country alias}} instead of {{country data}}, but we wanted to do some tracking beforehand. Basically what's happening is we're using an #iferror for when invalid country codes such as UK or CHL are used. As you say, this throws an invisible script error. I think we can channel it the other way (rather than checking #iferror when the country alias borks, check #ifexist country data <name>). I'm in the middle of something else at the moment, but I'll try to get to that by the end of the day. Primefac (talk) 18:26, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Primefac, I think I got a work around. hopefully this doesn't screw something else up. Frietjes (talk) 18:27, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That won't fix it. It's the module itself that's throwing the error, not the flagathlete template. Primefac (talk) 18:29, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Primefac, I see. I will let you work on it when you have time. Frietjes (talk) 18:35, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have a couple of error cases in User:Jonesey95/sandbox3. "BRI" generates a UK flag (and the script error category), even though I don't see "BRI" in Module:Country alias. "PHI" is in the module, but the flag does not appear (and there is no error category). I feel like I'm looking down the wrong rabbit hole, but maybe this will help you troubleshoot.
Regardless of the resolution, you might consider showing an error message in preview mode and restricting the error category to main and template space.
And one more thought: it might make more sense to modify the Module:Country alias or Template:Country data code to return an error category instead of limiting the check to Template:flagathlete. Template:Country data desperately needs error checking code. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:43, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Jonesey95, right, the issue is that there are more {{country data ...}} templates/redirects than there are entries in module. in some cases, the solution may be to add new ones to the module, in other cases, the solution may be to fix the transclusion. I was hoping we could stop using the {{country data ...}} templates/redirects and just use {{country alias}} instead, but first we need to find all the places where this won't work and address the issues. making the error visible in preview mode would help to find the offenders. thank you for the suggestion. Frietjes (talk) 18:49, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've EC'd about six times, so I'll just say that I've rolled back the changes to the template and I'll think of a better way to track this sort of thing. Primefac (talk) 18:53, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Problem edit

Hi, can you take another look at this edit. It causes an image to go to the left of the infobox rather than stack the 2 images below the infobox. This gives the start of the History section with 1 word per line to the left of said image with a title of Histo, with the ry hiding behind the image. Keith D (talk) 20:06, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keith D, I removed the stack. the appearance depends on the width of your browser window. Frietjes (talk) 20:31, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keith D, I left aligned the first image. your browser window must be very narrow if it cannot deal with left and right floating content. Frietjes (talk) 20:34, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for change, that is better. Keith D (talk) 21:07, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Cameron Aggies women's basketball coach navbox

Template:Cameron Aggies women's basketball coach navbox has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 22:11, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The da Vinci Barnstar

The da Vinci Barnstar
Thank you User:Frietjes for those amazing improvements you made to Holocaust infoboxes: concentration camp and Holocaust event. This is what I call, putting advanced knowledge of formatting into the best possible use for the benefit of our project.[29] [30] All best, and thank you again, Poeticbent talk 16:02, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Poeticbent talk 18:16, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Taking my spaces

Why is the need to be doing this ? The only thing changed was add a convert, the NSWcity works fine and isn't annoying or hard to understand and now an edit has to put all the =S in line in my head and are hard to look at ...
Will you be going through all the template documentation and removing the spaces from them too ? Dave Rave (talk) 00:59, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dave Rave, added missing unit conversions which are tracked in Category:Wikipedia infobox body of water articles using deprecated parameters. feel free to indent, change links to use obscure templates, or whatever you want. just don't add the page back to the tracking categories and I won't notice. Frietjes (talk) 01:03, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Navbox Canada

Thanks forgot to remove that code after the colour war editor got blocked.--Moxy (talk) 16:52, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Just so you know

I have started a Template Discussion. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2017_March_11#March_11. The Mysterious El Willstro (talk) 03:48, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Technical Barnstar
For eliminating mainspace articles in Category:Pages using infobox map with x or y by creating location maps, I award you this barnstar! Thanks so much! —hike395 (talk) 05:02, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Airport infoboxes

Hi Frietjes. On airport infoboxes, please leave the spaces before the = sign. Those are mainly to keep the data entries aligned which makes it easier to spot missing items. Not critical, but it's a convenience for editors. Also, except for some old soviet bloc countries, the international standard is that airport elevations are reported in feet, so "| metric-rwy = " should be left blank. Thanks, appreciate your good work. Cptmrmcmillan (talk) 18:21, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Persimmon Gap

You duplicated the coordinates field. (and Paulina Peak (I fixed) as well.)Naraht (talk) 19:56, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Naraht, thanks, once I go through the list, I look for any duplicates. Frietjes (talk) 19:58, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. As you can imagine, I may be a little bit longer until I get done.Naraht (talk) 20:24, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Location logic broken in Infobox Mountain

First off, thanks so much for cleaning out the tracking category for {{Infobox map}}. I was going to run AWB: it seemed like a lot to do manually, and you did it all! So BIG THANKS!

I notice that you're actively editing {{Infobox mountain}}. You changed the logic for displaying the location, and I think introduced a bug. I set the sandbox to the infobox before you started the last rounds of edits. Take a look at the Baintha Brakk and Mount Baker test cases: notice how there is a location field in the sandbox and not in the current version?

The logic was that if there is a map, a location, and no map caption, then use the location as the map caption and suppress the location field (because it would then be redundant). But, if there's (no map or a map caption) and a location, then use the location field.

I would fix this myself, but you seem to be actively hacking on the live template, so I thought you might want to do it. If not, I can get to it when you're done.

Thanks! —hike395 (talk) 19:29, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Since there is a lull in your editing, I went back and reverted the location logic. Now, the sandbox contains you latest version and the live version is with my location logic. It's a little more complex than what I had said above: using the location is only redundant if the map is in the Geography section, not if the map is up at the beginning. (This is because the map caption occurs right next to the location field in the Geography section, so it looks like it is stuttering "Alberta" "Alberta".) —hike395 (talk) 21:51, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
hike395, I got an edit conflict when I tried to fix it. I was seeing the location being suppressed in a case where it shouldn't be suppressed, but I will leave it alone until I am able to reproduce the problem. Frietjes (talk) 21:55, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
hike395, why is there an {{#if:{{{photo|}}} }} in {{#if:{{{map_caption|}}}|{{{location|}}}|{{#if:{{{photo|}}}|{{#if:{{{map|}}}||{{{location|}}} }}|{{{location|}}} }} }} I think this is left over from before you folded the two together? I would think the following do what you want {{#if:{{{map|}}}|{{#if:{{{map_caption|}}}| {{{location|}}} }}| {{{location|}}} }} ? which says if there is a map, and no caption, then suppress the location, otherwise show it. Frietjes (talk) 22:05, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
hike395, I found the difference. if you check Sunwapta Peak you will see the location appears twice due to the extra photo logic. Frietjes (talk) 22:14, 14 March 2017 (UTC)h[reply]
Yes, this is by design (now that I remember what I was doing many years ago). The idea was that, if there is a photo, then the map is in the Geography section and its caption is immediately above the Location field. Having the same data twice in a row looks bad. If there is no photo, then the map is at the beginning of the infobox (like Sunwapta Peak), and then it could be OK to have it appear twice.
Now, maybe you don't like this. I don't think I discussed this fully anywhere: I just hacked up the code. I'm open to changing it. —hike395 (talk) 04:31, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Royal Marine

Did your edit put Soufflenheim across the German border?Keith-264 (talk) 20:28, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keith-264, the coordinates are from the Soufflenheim article. Frietjes (talk) 20:29, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
[edit conflict] Ah, just seen the next edit. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 20:31, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merging Infobox Tibetan Buddhist monastery into Infobox religious building

Hi Frietjes I noticed you merged lots of older templates into Infobox Religious Building such as Infobox mosque, Hindu temple and Buddhist temple. I just thought you might have missed one Template:Infobox Tibetan Buddhist monastery unless there is some reason I missed on why this deserves its own template. --Cs california (talk) 07:05, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cs california, feel free to nominate it for merging. should be possible, but you will want leverage something like {{Infobox name module}} to avoid having to merge a whole bunch of name parameters. Frietjes (talk) 12:36, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for merging of Template:Infobox Tibetan Buddhist monastery

Template:Infobox Tibetan Buddhist monastery has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox religious building. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Cs california (talk) 09:18, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think I did the nomination correctly not really sure --Cs california (talk) 09:18, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Cs california, looks fine. you may wish to nominated Template:Infobox Hindu temple for merging as well in a separate discussion. you erroneously identified it as "already merged" in your nomination statement. Frietjes (talk) 13:07, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oops I did not notice that if it fits the generic template I will nominate it Thanks --Cs california (talk) 02:09, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tracker category

Hello, would please help by creating a tracker for those articles using multiple particle parties in |party= Param of Template:Infobox Officeholder -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 00:48, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Capankajsmilyo, it will be nearly impossible to make a perfect detection algorithm. I need a string pattern match to find them. if you could give me some examples of what you want to detect, then I can work on something. for example, can we assume that the parties are linked to articles? if so, we could detect when there is more than one wikilink in the parameter. but, I could imagine cases where the party names are not linked. Frietjes (talk) 14:14, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
To start with, how about creating a category to determine the count of articles using party? Along with that there are a few options to achieve the desired result. First is the one you already said. Second could be the br tag. Further, most of the infobox using multiple political parties specify dates / period for which they were a part of that party. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 14:28, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have some more suggestions for the template regarding this party field, which I have shared on Infobox officeholder's talk page. Would you like to share your views on that? -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 14:28, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Capankajsmilyo, looking through the code, there was already a place where we identify common party names and create a standard output value. so, I put the tracking at the end of that switch so it will populate for any article which uses a value not in that switch. the category is Category:Pages using infobox officeholder with an atypical party value. it will take some time to populate as the server recaches the pages. Frietjes (talk) 14:35, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Great, thanks a lot. Is there a possibility for separating the period from |party= and |otherparty= params? -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 14:37, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Capankajsmilyo, there are two possibilities, (1) create something like |party_period= or |party_term=, or (2) match strings which end in variants of (YYYY-YYYY) and split it off automatically. Frietjes (talk) 14:40, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I guess option like |term_start= and |term_end= which is already being used, substituting term with party would be a good option. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 14:42, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for merging of Template:Infobox Hindu temple

Template:Infobox Hindu temple has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox religious building. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Cs california (talk) 07:10, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

MfD nomination of Module:Navbox with nowrap lists

Module:Navbox with nowrap lists, a page which you created or substantially contributed to (or which is in your userspace), has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Module:Navbox with nowrap lists and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Module:Navbox with nowrap lists during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me 13:03, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bad timing for editing Osmanabad :-/

Hi,
You recently made some edits on Osmanabad. But it was a bad timing for me. As I was training my apprentice there. :-D
Would you be kind enough to not make any edits on Osmanabad or on Osmanabad district?

I will teach my apprentice on these pages, step by step. As he contributes to wiki every alternate day, would you please give us one week?
Thanks —usernamekiran (talk) 00:33, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:Usernamekiran, if you want to train someone, use a subpage of your userspace. WP is not locked for training. Frietjes (talk) 13:40, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
however, I won't go out of my way to edit pages that you are editing. Frietjes (talk) 13:45, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It was just a polite request , that too only for for a week. —usernamekiran (talk) 14:42, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Frietjes. You have new messages at Osarius's talk page.
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module Sort plain list

As I said in Technical Pump, there is a problem with alphabetic sort. The problem is that the module is try to be too clever. It should output the same as it came input.

Examples: Siquijor (Q174373), Baclayon (Q404489), San Fernando (Q316318), and
{{#invoke:sorted plain list|asc|San Blas, San Carlos, San Isidro, San Tomas, Santa Fe, Santa Ursula, Santo Domingo, Santo Niño, Santat }} which produces

  • San Blas
  • San Carlos
  • San Isidro
  • San Tomas
  • Santa Fe
  • Santa Ursula
  • Santat
  • Santo Domingo
  • Santo Niño

which isn't what anyone could call 'alphabetical'.

112.198.82.25 (talk) 09:41, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

you should ask at WT:LUA. the sort order is determined by the string comparison operator. if you have a different string comparison operator, then feel free to suggest one. Frietjes (talk) 13:30, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
update, I have added "ascd" for "ascending dictionary order". ymmv. Frietjes (talk) 14:13, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot. I haven't a clue about LUA or do I mean scribunto? Unfortunately it's still not quite 100% – if you look at Siquijor (Q174373), look at the section and see Canghunoghunog in the middle of names start with Cang‑ I.e. {{nbhyph}} not hyphen. And I don't know what is ymmv. 112.198.82.25 (talk) 15:57, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
wikt:YMMV ~ your experience may be different. added the simple hyphen. we could easily expand to all non-alphanumeric if necessary. Frietjes (talk) 18:51, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox settlement population parameters

Hi Frietjes

I just wondered if you were aware of a glitch in {{Infobox settlement}} which mangles the categorisation of cleanup tags used on population parameters. Apparently the template is smart enough to format numbers, but not smart enough to distinguish a bare number from a number which is part of a template or category name. I can't recall where I saw this explained, but I have seen the effect several times.

I mention this because your edit[31] to Frederick, Maryland added at{{dubious}} tag to a population field. I see that your edit was triggered by clumsiness in adding a duplicate parameter in my preceding edit, so thanks for fixing my folly .... but I just thought I'd point out a problem you may have been unaware of.

Best wishes, --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:19, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:BrownHairedGirl, see this thread which points to this thread which ultimately points to this thread. I could definitely write a smart formatnum in LUA, but it would add some overhead, so I was seeking feedback. of course, it would be great if we had a smart parserfunction, but until that happens we have two choices (1) deal with it and move the tags to the corresponding "footnotes" parameter, (2) write something in LUA and hope that the overhead doesn't cause any unintended problems. Frietjes (talk) 15:23, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I thought I might be teaching grandmother to suck eggs! <grin>
Anyway, glad you are aware of it. And if you did feel like writing a smart formatnum in LUA, you'd earn the blessings of those cleaning up Special:WantedCategories. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:03, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

infobox election is broken

Here an example of what is broken. I am no expert, but i think it's colorbar related. European Parliament election, 2014 (Netherlands) --BasBr1 (talk) 20:51, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Fixed at Template:Dutch politics/party colours. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:23, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
thank you. Frietjes (talk) 15:01, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject!

Hello, Frietjes! I saw you recently edited a page related to the Green party and green politics. There is a new WikiProject that has been formed - WikiProject Green Politics and I thought this might be something you'd be interested in joining! So please head on over to the project page and take a look! Thanks for your time. Me-123567-Me (talk) 16:59, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Time required for deletion?

I notified the creator of Neighborhoods of Latur. After nominating the article for deletion, how much time does wikipedia usuall take to delete that article? —usernamekiran (talk) 22:11, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

usernamekiran, nominated articles are deleted after at least a week. In the case of a PROD, all it takes is removal of the template to contest the deletion. For AFD nominations, a formal discussion takes place as to whether the page will be kept or deleted. Primefac (talk) 22:35, 27 March 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)[reply]
@Primefac: thanks. I dont think it will be contested though. Just in case it does, I will go wiki AFD. Thanks again. —usernamekiran (talk) 22:40, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Strange

Hello, Category:Pages using infobox officeholder with an atypical party value is showing strange behaviour. Could you please check it? -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 06:49, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Capankajsmilyo, it was tracking all non-blank parties not on the list in the #switch: statement. clearly this was too many false positives. I have written a more restrictive LUA version, which will still have false positives, but far fewer. once the server has repopulated the category, we can look for more patterns to exclude. Frietjes (talk) 13:47, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Question

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