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I'm happy with the recent edits, overall. The material that was removed was not necessary to the article. Thanks to [[User:Elfvillage|Elfvillage]] for another perspective. [[User:Naturyl|Nat]] 07:34, 19 September 2006 (UTC) |
I'm happy with the recent edits, overall. The material that was removed was not necessary to the article. Thanks to [[User:Elfvillage|Elfvillage]] for another perspective. [[User:Naturyl|Nat]] 07:34, 19 September 2006 (UTC) |
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== Cleanup Tag == |
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May I ask why this article is tagged for cleanup? What issues need to be resolved? The spelling and grammar should be adequate, and recent edits have removed content that another user felt was unnecessary. I'd like to discuss any remaining issues. [[User:Naturyl|Nat]] 11:48, 23 September 2006 (UTC) |
Revision as of 11:48, 23 September 2006
Unsigned Criticism
The author states: "As it is promoted today (chiefly on the Internet), dialectical monism refers to a worldview or ontology based in a framework of neutral monism, which attempts to synthesize Eastern mysticism with Western dialectics. In layman's terms, the basic idea is to outline a point of view which recognizes that all is one, but this oneness can only be experienced in terms of duality and creative opposition."
It appears anyone can create their own philosopy and then put it on Wikipedia to try to promote it.
Defence by Author
Check the IP on this user (User:Factchecker007). I am betting it is User:66.66.117.237, who has been vandalizing all pages related to me recently. The anonymous user at that IP is an individual who has a personal problem with me, and has been vandalizing other websites I own as well. --Nat 22:06, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Advertising?
The last section in this entry looks to me like an advertisement for a particular school of thought. I think this should be discouraged, in the first place, because it is not an important or well-known one, and, more importantly, because this entry is on a general philosophical position and its historical locations and not a venue for promoting or discussing its socially-insignificant contemporary spiritual development online. I notice that the promoter, Nat, patrols this entry. I encourage him to defend reference to his philosophical system in a public encyclopedia article. A record of peer-reviewed articles or a list of mailing lists and websites not maintained by himself might convince me that this is other than advertising. Until then I've removed the final paragraph of this entry. I also removed the link, misleading titled "Dialectical Monism Overview", which refers to the promoter's website.
霊村 16:46, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not concerned that you edited the article to remove a section you found unnecessary. That happens on Wikipedia, and I'm not going to attempt to revert it. However, you refer to dialectical monism as "not important" and "not well-known." While either of these statements may apply to the term itself, I don't think that either is true of the philosophical position it decribes. The historical references given in the article should support my contention in this regard. I don't mind that you deleted references to the the term's development, as I agree that it is not particularly significant to the Wikipedia audience. As for external references, I can show instances of Sartre and several other notable individuals using the term, if necessary, although I would rather not go to the effort of doing so unless you plan to put the article up for deletion. However, please note that an associated article, Universal dialectic, has already survived one deletion attempt. Finally, the link entitled "Overview of Dialectical Monism" was not misleadingly titled. It pointed to an overview of dialectical monism, precisely as indicated. It's fine if you want to remove the link because it points to a resource on my website, but I'm hoping that someone else will recognize the value of the resource in the future and restore the link. I will not quibble over it, though. I am not here to "promote" dialectical monism on Wikipedia. That is not what Wikipedia is for. I created the article and maintain it because dialectical monism is a term for an important philosophical position which should be represented in this encyclopedia, and is not specifically represented in any other article. The fact that I maintain web pages addressing the topic should not be construed as automatically implying promotional motivations. Nat 03:33, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
On Further Reflection
I'm happy with the recent edits, overall. The material that was removed was not necessary to the article. Thanks to Elfvillage for another perspective. Nat 07:34, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Cleanup Tag
May I ask why this article is tagged for cleanup? What issues need to be resolved? The spelling and grammar should be adequate, and recent edits have removed content that another user felt was unnecessary. I'd like to discuss any remaining issues. Nat 11:48, 23 September 2006 (UTC)