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== Scythians are Not Iranian and They didn't speak an Iranian Language ==
== Scythians are Not Iranian and They didn't speak an Iranian Language ==
{{hat|This talkpage is not for debating personal opinions. [[User:Future Perfect at Sunrise|Fut.Perf.]] [[User talk:Future Perfect at Sunrise|☼]] 08:10, 11 April 2017 (UTC)}}

It's a sad fact that european history has been changed deliberately and viciously since nineteenth century. I can understand the reasons behind it; like trying to keep European history and the roots of many Europeans as far as possible from Turks who have been seen as 'muslims in Ottoman empire or Anatolia' while this is mostly not true at all. It was a childish attempt yet gave rise to powerful consequences as people were ignorant about turks at that time due to Christian doctrines and imposition. However what worries me today is the still ongoing ignorance and blind-faith among europeans and even european scholars. Who has proved that Scythians spoke an iranian language for god's sake? Is it a fact or what some scholars want it to be? Please beware, turkish scholars and academicians are also researching and they are increasingly providing sound findings and outcomes related to the language and origin of Scythicans, who are our ancestors. We even have a region in Ankara called Iskitler (Scythians) and they keep living in our culture and names. That many leading tribes within them spoke turkish has been proved (Ilhami Durmus-Iskitler, Osman Karatay-The origin of Turks etc.) and they lived like all other ancient turks did (like Huns, Cumans, Avars..many) with the same culture end tradition. So I kindly invite all the smart europeans especially academicians to be open-minded, objective and honest to do searching for the truth. Don't follow the cliche and stereotypes, always look at the other side of the medallion. Ancient turks brought an incredibly big culture and many traditions as well as shaman & pagan beliefs to europe which was occupied mostly by latins and greeks at that time. Please research all these and always be ready for the unexpected. Buusra <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/185.113.8.2|185.113.8.2]] ([[User talk:185.113.8.2#top|talk]]) 08:56, 5 April 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
It's a sad fact that european history has been changed deliberately and viciously since nineteenth century. I can understand the reasons behind it; like trying to keep European history and the roots of many Europeans as far as possible from Turks who have been seen as 'muslims in Ottoman empire or Anatolia' while this is mostly not true at all. It was a childish attempt yet gave rise to powerful consequences as people were ignorant about turks at that time due to Christian doctrines and imposition. However what worries me today is the still ongoing ignorance and blind-faith among europeans and even european scholars. Who has proved that Scythians spoke an iranian language for god's sake? Is it a fact or what some scholars want it to be? Please beware, turkish scholars and academicians are also researching and they are increasingly providing sound findings and outcomes related to the language and origin of Scythicans, who are our ancestors. We even have a region in Ankara called Iskitler (Scythians) and they keep living in our culture and names. That many leading tribes within them spoke turkish has been proved (Ilhami Durmus-Iskitler, Osman Karatay-The origin of Turks etc.) and they lived like all other ancient turks did (like Huns, Cumans, Avars..many) with the same culture end tradition. So I kindly invite all the smart europeans especially academicians to be open-minded, objective and honest to do searching for the truth. Don't follow the cliche and stereotypes, always look at the other side of the medallion. Ancient turks brought an incredibly big culture and many traditions as well as shaman & pagan beliefs to europe which was occupied mostly by latins and greeks at that time. Please research all these and always be ready for the unexpected. Buusra <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/185.113.8.2|185.113.8.2]] ([[User talk:185.113.8.2#top|talk]]) 08:56, 5 April 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:There were no Turkish speakers in Europe or Turkey at the time of the Scythians.[[User:Maunus|·maunus]] · [[User talk:Maunus|snunɐɯ·]] 09:17, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
:There were no Turkish speakers in Europe or Turkey at the time of the Scythians.[[User:Maunus|·maunus]] · [[User talk:Maunus|snunɐɯ·]] 09:17, 5 April 2017 (UTC)


..and there were iranian speakers in Europe at that time??? Oh yes, you also say Sarmatians spoke iranian in europe too.. How could presumably intelligent people believe in such arguments without ever searching the turkish and objective writers/scholars? Who has proved that they didn't speak turkish? Nobody..But our findings and research prove that they spoke turkish. I am sorry but world will be talking about these facts very soon, and the reign of fake history will come to an end. Buusra
..and there were iranian speakers in Europe at that time??? Oh yes, you also say Sarmatians spoke iranian in europe too.. My, how could presumably intelligent people believe in such dumb arguments without ever searching the turkish and objective writers/scholars? Who has proved that they didn't speak turkish? Nobody..But our findings and research prove that they spoke turkish. I am sorry but world will be talking about these facts very soon, and the reign of fake history will come to an end. Buusra
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Survival of Scythian/Sarmatian langauge into the 1890s in Crimea

In the 1880s and 90s, when German philologists were combing through Crimea and the Ukraine, looking for various Germanic people--Goths or otherwise--that may have survived the ages, came across a few settlements in Crimea where the folks were using mysterious language(s) that at a closer examination, proved to be the modern-time survivors of the ancient Scytho-Sarmatian. Their records show that the language(s) were close to those of modern Ossetians (the only related people to Scythians/Sarmatians to survive into the present day). There were much Slavic and Turkic importation, but clearly these/this surviving language(s) was Scytho-Sarmatian Aryan/Iranic. in grammar and structure. Seemingly, that is that last time anyone encountered Scytho-Sarmatians in their ancient Crimean habitat...

An exhaustive, scientific article about this appeared about 20 years ago in the US. Would anyone has more information on this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:c6a5:1700:21f:5bff:fee9:91aa (talk • contribs) 23:42, 26 July 2015‎

Add Armenian, Greek, and New Persian transliterations

(Old Persian: Sakā; New Persian: ساکا Saka; Greek: Σάκαι Sakai; Armenian: սկյութները Skyout'nerə; Latin: Sacae, Sanskrit: शक Śaka), and Sai (Chinese: 塞; Old Chinese: *sˤək), respectively.[8]

Note 4 better citation

Two things could be better regarding note 4, most importantly, in the most recent edition, it is not page 97, but 117. Secondly, the author should be better recognized by formulating the citation as follows: A.I. Melyukova, 'The Scythians and Sarmatians', in: D. Sinor (ed.), The Cambridge History of Early Inner Asia (Cambridge 1994) 117. 2001:1C02:1907:9500:E01E:3850:F0B0:28DD (talk) 11:38, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Confused etymology of "Ashkenazi" Jews

"Ashkenazi" likely does derive from "Scythian," as stated, but does not refer to the Scythians' ancient homeland--as the article mentioned, in more recent times, lots of people thought the Germans were descended from Scythians, and thus the Jewish word for "Germany" was derived from "Ashkenaz." Jews in different parts of the world were labeled by the place they lived, ie, German Jews were "Ashkenazi Jews." There's no genetic support for the idea that Ashkenazi Jews once lived in Turkey or north of there--genetically, Ashkenazim are about half Italian, (please check the page on Jewish genetics; I'm sure it has all of the relevant studies linked.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.100.243.162 (talk) 22:29, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Scythians are Not Iranian and They didn't speak an Iranian Language

This talkpage is not for debating personal opinions. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:10, 11 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

It's a sad fact that european history has been changed deliberately and viciously since nineteenth century. I can understand the reasons behind it; like trying to keep European history and the roots of many Europeans as far as possible from Turks who have been seen as 'muslims in Ottoman empire or Anatolia' while this is mostly not true at all. It was a childish attempt yet gave rise to powerful consequences as people were ignorant about turks at that time due to Christian doctrines and imposition. However what worries me today is the still ongoing ignorance and blind-faith among europeans and even european scholars. Who has proved that Scythians spoke an iranian language for god's sake? Is it a fact or what some scholars want it to be? Please beware, turkish scholars and academicians are also researching and they are increasingly providing sound findings and outcomes related to the language and origin of Scythicans, who are our ancestors. We even have a region in Ankara called Iskitler (Scythians) and they keep living in our culture and names. That many leading tribes within them spoke turkish has been proved (Ilhami Durmus-Iskitler, Osman Karatay-The origin of Turks etc.) and they lived like all other ancient turks did (like Huns, Cumans, Avars..many) with the same culture end tradition. So I kindly invite all the smart europeans especially academicians to be open-minded, objective and honest to do searching for the truth. Don't follow the cliche and stereotypes, always look at the other side of the medallion. Ancient turks brought an incredibly big culture and many traditions as well as shaman & pagan beliefs to europe which was occupied mostly by latins and greeks at that time. Please research all these and always be ready for the unexpected. Buusra — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.113.8.2 (talk) 08:56, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There were no Turkish speakers in Europe or Turkey at the time of the Scythians.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 09:17, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

..and there were iranian speakers in Europe at that time??? Oh yes, you also say Sarmatians spoke iranian in europe too.. My, how could presumably intelligent people believe in such dumb arguments without ever searching the turkish and objective writers/scholars? Who has proved that they didn't speak turkish? Nobody..But our findings and research prove that they spoke turkish. I am sorry but world will be talking about these facts very soon, and the reign of fake history will come to an end. Buusra

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