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*'''Keep''' The Back Channel has been covered as being one of the tightest crossways in the Port;[http://www.ocregister.com/2014/04/02/navigating-worlds-biggest-ships-through-port-of-long-beachs-tightest-spots/] the $1.3 bn bridge construction on the Back Channel has also been quite noticeable[http://polb.com/about/projects/default.asp]; the back channel hosts the important Pier S Marine terminal;[http://www.harborassn.com/news/11-pier-s-proposed-development][https://books.google.com/books?id=u0I0AQAAMAAJ&pg=SA6-PA12&lpg=SA6-PA12&dq=%22Back+Channel%22+AND+%22Port+of+Long+Beach%22&source=bl&ots=BsJeYeowFh&sig=4MlDmmD2p4ppe2tk7o7DtsTpz4Y&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi4x_iKv93TAhXBOo8KHR2jCnQQ6AEISDAG#v=onepage&q=%22Back%20Channel%22%20AND%20%22Port%20of%20Long%20Beach%22&f=false] the back channel is also considered amongst the most important regions of the Port, apart from the middle and inner harbor;[https://books.google.com/books?id=qUI0AQAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-SA5-PA2&lpg=RA1-SA5-PA2&dq=%22Back+Channel%22+AND+%22Port+of+Long+Beach%22&source=bl&ots=rOninelqfH&sig=VKQ6vKlkw_mrpnMzoKj7SHOp114&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi4x_iKv93TAhXBOo8KHR2jCnQQ6AEISjAH#v=onepage&q=%22Back%20Channel%22%20AND%20%22Port%20of%20Long%20Beach%22&f=false] the back channel forms one of the five main navigable corridors of the port;[https://books.google.com/books?id=hNQ0AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA129&lpg=PA129&dq=%22Back+Channel%22+AND+%22Port+of+Long+Beach%22&source=bl&ots=bLL3oYSVVW&sig=Mf9mBptptoq-hfTNnfpVVfIpBbQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi4x_iKv93TAhXBOo8KHR2jCnQQ6AEITDAI#v=onepage&q=%22Back%20Channel%22%20AND%20%22Port%20of%20Long%20Beach%22&f=false] satisfies [[WP:GEOLAND]]. <small>[[User talk:Lourdes|<span style="color:black;">Lourdes</span>]]</small> 09:53, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' The Back Channel has been covered as being one of the tightest crossways in the Port;[http://www.ocregister.com/2014/04/02/navigating-worlds-biggest-ships-through-port-of-long-beachs-tightest-spots/] the $1.3 bn bridge construction on the Back Channel has also been quite noticeable[http://polb.com/about/projects/default.asp]; the back channel hosts the important Pier S Marine terminal;[http://www.harborassn.com/news/11-pier-s-proposed-development][https://books.google.com/books?id=u0I0AQAAMAAJ&pg=SA6-PA12&lpg=SA6-PA12&dq=%22Back+Channel%22+AND+%22Port+of+Long+Beach%22&source=bl&ots=BsJeYeowFh&sig=4MlDmmD2p4ppe2tk7o7DtsTpz4Y&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi4x_iKv93TAhXBOo8KHR2jCnQQ6AEISDAG#v=onepage&q=%22Back%20Channel%22%20AND%20%22Port%20of%20Long%20Beach%22&f=false] the back channel is also considered amongst the most important regions of the Port, apart from the middle and inner harbor;[https://books.google.com/books?id=qUI0AQAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-SA5-PA2&lpg=RA1-SA5-PA2&dq=%22Back+Channel%22+AND+%22Port+of+Long+Beach%22&source=bl&ots=rOninelqfH&sig=VKQ6vKlkw_mrpnMzoKj7SHOp114&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi4x_iKv93TAhXBOo8KHR2jCnQQ6AEISjAH#v=onepage&q=%22Back%20Channel%22%20AND%20%22Port%20of%20Long%20Beach%22&f=false] the back channel forms one of the five main navigable corridors of the port;[https://books.google.com/books?id=hNQ0AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA129&lpg=PA129&dq=%22Back+Channel%22+AND+%22Port+of+Long+Beach%22&source=bl&ots=bLL3oYSVVW&sig=Mf9mBptptoq-hfTNnfpVVfIpBbQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi4x_iKv93TAhXBOo8KHR2jCnQQ6AEITDAI#v=onepage&q=%22Back%20Channel%22%20AND%20%22Port%20of%20Long%20Beach%22&f=false] satisfies [[WP:GEOLAND]]. <small>[[User talk:Lourdes|<span style="color:black;">Lourdes</span>]]</small> 09:53, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
*'''Keep.''' There are sources enough to establish notability under Geoland. [[User:L3X1|<small>d.g.</small> L3X1]] [[User talk:L3X1|<small>(distant write)</small>]] 12:23, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
*'''Keep.''' There are sources enough to establish notability under Geoland. [[User:L3X1|<small>d.g.</small> L3X1]] [[User talk:L3X1|<small>(distant write)</small>]] 12:23, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' I don't see how this is notable; the name is almost purely descriptive in nature, and the Back Channel at the port of Long Beach is not more important than any other one. [[User:Power~enwiki|Power~enwiki]] ([[User talk:Power~enwiki|talk]]) 06:22, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

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Prod removed citing, WP:GEOLAND, however as per #4 in that guideline (which is the pertinent citation), reads, "If a Wikipedia article cannot be developed using known sources, information on the feature can instead be included in a more general article on local geography." The commonality of this feature's name makes researching it difficult, but I cannot find the type of info necessary to meet the requirements of GEOLAND. Onel5969 TT me 17:19, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 17:41, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:25, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:51, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Thanks South Nashua. I am now on board! - Ret.Prof (talk) 11:48, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The MapCarta link seems to be a circular reference to Wikipedia. There is no mention of this feature in the Port of Long Beach article. I don't see how it really meets GEOLAND; can someone point to more information beyond statistics and coordinates? If there is so little information to support an encyclopaedic article maybe it should simply have a passing mention in the Port of Long Beach article? I am struggling to find any information of value. Poltair (talk) 21:04, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 06:51, 29 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Port of Long Beach Here is the GNIS entry: [1]. It does seem to be a short canal connecting the Middle Harbor with the Inner Harbor. Looking at google maps: [2], you can see probably a dozen different channels, harbors, slips, basins, etc. that make up the Port of Long Beach. I see no value in having an article on each of these.
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Winged Blades Godric 04:04, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The Back Channel has been covered as being one of the tightest crossways in the Port;[3] the $1.3 bn bridge construction on the Back Channel has also been quite noticeable[4]; the back channel hosts the important Pier S Marine terminal;[5][6] the back channel is also considered amongst the most important regions of the Port, apart from the middle and inner harbor;[7] the back channel forms one of the five main navigable corridors of the port;[8] satisfies WP:GEOLAND. Lourdes 09:53, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. There are sources enough to establish notability under Geoland. d.g. L3X1 (distant write) 12:23, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I don't see how this is notable; the name is almost purely descriptive in nature, and the Back Channel at the port of Long Beach is not more important than any other one. Power~enwiki (talk) 06:22, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]