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Everton: the club says otherwise
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They qualify for the group stage, leaving no q3 spot.
They qualify for the group stage, leaving no q3 spot.
Just saying, as I was warned for adding it. [[User:Branchofpine|Branchofpine]] ([[User talk:Branchofpine|talk]]) 16:37, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
Just saying, as I was warned for adding it. [[User:Branchofpine|Branchofpine]] ([[User talk:Branchofpine|talk]]) 16:37, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
:Except [http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/05/24/kevs-relishes-another-euro-adventure the club themselves] have said they start in the qualifying round. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.5em 0.5em 0.6em;"> '''[[User:The C of E|<font color="red">The C of E </font><font color="blue"> God Save the Queen!</font>]]''' ([[User talk:The C of E|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]])</span> 16:54, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

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FK Partizan

Apperently FK Partizan has been banned by UEFA.[1] [2] Could be good to know if they should qualify. Qed237 (talk) 13:10, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It seems like ban is lifted according to ESPN. Qed237 (talk) 20:52, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Aberdeen

Wont Aberdeen now move into the second qualifying round? The winner of this season's final will go into next season's Champions League, which opens up a Europa League qualifier spot.Because this year's finalists cannot qualify for the Champions League group stage through their domestic leagues, Scotland will move up one place to 24th in the rankings.Statto74 (talk) 10:20, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ajax can still qualify for Champions League group stage, so no. Qed237 (talk) 10:40, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, missed that the league has already finished. Qed237 (talk) 13:08, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That is what the media are reporting in Scotland BBC, STV. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 13:51, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

From what I understand after reading UEFA documents, nothing will change in EL if Ajax win. And it would not be the first time media in UK is wrong, but it is a complicated situation. Can you tell me why Europa League would have to be changed if Ajax win EL? Qed237 (talk) 14:15, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ajax would be bumped up from CL qualifiers to group stage, if the CL winner has qualified via their domestic league. This is not entirely certain, due to Juventus being only 5 points ahead of third place in Serie A with two to games play. This then filters down to UEL because of changes to the number of losers from the UCL 3QR. Per our article: "If changes to the access list of the Champions League are made, the number of losers of the Champions League third qualifying round which are transferred to the Europa League may be increased or decreased from the default number of 15, which means changes to the access list of the Europa League will also need to be made." Jmorrison230582 (talk) 14:32, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That is true. However, I think it probably would be best to wait until we has some confirmation. Qed237 (talk) 14:46, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

On a related note, has anyone seen anything official regarding what would happen to Everton if United beat Ajax? Common sense would suggest that Everton would get bumped up into the group stage to maintain the number of team automatically qualifying for that stage. douts (talk) 01:37, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Douts: Nothing will happen to Everton. As the distribution section says, If the Champions League title holders or the Europa League title holders have qualified for the Europa League through domestic performance, their berth in the Europa League will be vacated (not replaced by another team from the same association), and cup winners of the highest-ranked associations will be moved to a later round accordingly. (my bolding). Cup winners will be moved to later rounds so this means Chech cup winner will enter group stage instead of 3QR, Polish cup winner will go to 3QR instead of 2QR, and cup winners from Scotland and Azerbaijan will be moved from 1QR to 2QR. Qed237 (talk) 12:35, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Shifting

No matter who wins in EL final this evening, some shift will be made. As already explained, if Man Utd wins, then Zlin will be promoted from playoff to GS, Arka will be promoted from QR2 to QR3, while Aberdeen and Gabala are promoted from QR1 to QR2. Otherwise, if Ajax wins, Man Utd will stay in EL GS, but there will be only 4 matches in CL QR3 instead of default 5. Then one team less will be transfered from CL QR3 to EL PO, and Zlin will compensate such a vacancy. Other shiftings will be identical just like case if Man Utd. Therefore it is already obvious:

- A total of 190 (not 191) teams will participate
- Zlin will NOT start in QR3
- Arka will be promoted from QR2 to QR3
- Aberdeen and Gabala are promoted from QR1 to QR2  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.143.2.226 (talk) 17:36, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply] 

What round do Everton Qualify for?

I've started this because I think some discussion maybe needed. I've linked in the 2016–17 Premier League talk page as well. What round will Everton qualify for? By default, England gives EL group to the FA cup winner and 5th, and EL q3 to the League Cup winner. The FA Cup winner will either be in the Champions League or have finished 5th - so normally that would league 5th and 6th getting EL group spots. Since 6th place Man UTD also won the League Cup, the pushes the EL q3 slot to 7th - Everton. But now that Man UTD have won the Europa league, they go into the Champions league. So do Everton move into Man UTD's group stage spot leaving no Q3 spot, or do Everton still get the Q3 slot and no second EL Group spot? 2A02:C7D:15A:AB00:145B:95:F6C1:7F3 (talk) 21:58, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

PS - at the time of writing, the 2016–17 Premier League article has Everton in the group stage, and no Q3 spot. 2A02:C7D:15A:AB00:145B:95:F6C1:7F3 (talk) 22:00, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Everton

They qualify for the group stage, leaving no q3 spot. Just saying, as I was warned for adding it. Branchofpine (talk) 16:37, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Except the club themselves have said they start in the qualifying round. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 16:54, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]