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: As mentioned on both of your talk pages, please discuss any further changes to this section here on the talk page, and refrain from making any further undiscussed edits. --'''[[User:Dragfyre|dragfyre]]'''_<span style="font-size:70%">[[User_talk:Dragfyre|ʞןɐʇ]]</span><span style="font-size:70%;vertical-align:top">[[Special:Contributions/Dragfyre|c]]</span> 14:31, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
: As mentioned on both of your talk pages, please discuss any further changes to this section here on the talk page, and refrain from making any further undiscussed edits. --'''[[User:Dragfyre|dragfyre]]'''_<span style="font-size:70%">[[User_talk:Dragfyre|ʞןɐʇ]]</span><span style="font-size:70%;vertical-align:top">[[Special:Contributions/Dragfyre|c]]</span> 14:31, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

::I think it could be improved upon but it's good enough as is. The original addition was misquoting the source, and that is fixed. [[User:Cuñado|<font color="#AF7817">'''Cuñado'''</font>]] ☼ - [[User talk:Cuñado|<font size="-3">Talk</font>]] 20:30, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

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Needs a flamethrower taken to it

The article is grotesquely overdetailed. EEng 10:40, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Bahá'í Faith

The original edition to this section is as follows....

The Kitáb-i-Aqdas, the central book of the Bahá'í Faith written by Bahá'u'lláh, condemns arsonists to death by immolation, stating "Should anyone intentionally destroy a house by fire, him also shall ye burn."[1] The Universal House of Justice, the supreme governing institution of the Bahá'í Faith, has stated that some punishments, such as for arson, are intended for a future condition of society, at which time they will be supplemented and applied by the Universal House of Justice.[2][3]

The full quote from the Kitáb-i-Aqdas states: "Should anyone intentionally destroy a house by fire, him also shall ye burn; should anyone deliberately take another’s life, him also shall ye put to death." It is only the comments section of one of the translation editions that states "alternative of life imprisonment." Regards, A35821361 (talk) 23:39, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The original quote from Baha'u'llah, paragraph 62 of the Kitab-i-Aqdas: "Should anyone intentionally desteroy a house by fire, him also shall ye burn... Should ye condemn the arsonist and the murderer to life imprisonment, it would be permissible..."
You are misquoting the source. You are also using primary sources and verging on WP:OR if you attempt at interpreting it or providing misleading, partial quotes. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 04:31, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The quote provided was the full quote, not a partial quote. Regards, A35821361 (talk) 05:14, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Bahá'u'lláh (1873). The Kitáb-i-Aqdas: The Most Holy Book. Wilmette, Illinois, USA: Bahá'í Publishing Trust. p. 204. ISBN 0-85398-999-0.
  2. ^ Smith, Peter (2008-04-07). An Introduction to the Baha'i Faith. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. p. 172. ISBN 0-521-86251-5. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  3. ^ Universal House of Justice. "Laws from the Kitab-i-Aqdas Not Yet Binding".

I've rewritten this section incorporating the points of view of both Cuñado and A35821361, as well as references provided by both of them. The quotes from the Kitáb-i-Aqdas and its commentary have been moved into the References section; while they are of interest, the main text does a good enough job of summing up the intent of the law and its applicability. Moreover, there are no quotes that would be notable enough for inclusion in the main body of the article; since the law is not yet binding, there has never been an example of death by burning as applied under Bahá'í law. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 19:00, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As mentioned on both of your talk pages, please discuss any further changes to this section here on the talk page, and refrain from making any further undiscussed edits. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 14:31, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I think it could be improved upon but it's good enough as is. The original addition was misquoting the source, and that is fixed. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 20:30, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]