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:Per [[WP:AT]], it should be under whatever the prevalent English-language usage in [[WP:RS]] is. A quick Google shows the current title beating Gulf of Sirte by 285k:181k, and on Google Books, it's more than 2:1. [[User:Wareh|Wareh]] ([[User talk:Wareh|talk]]) 17:54, 29 March 2011 (UTC) |
:Per [[WP:AT]], it should be under whatever the prevalent English-language usage in [[WP:RS]] is. A quick Google shows the current title beating Gulf of Sirte by 285k:181k, and on Google Books, it's more than 2:1. [[User:Wareh|Wareh]] ([[User talk:Wareh|talk]]) 17:54, 29 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::It is true that in articles on military incidents in the 1980s, as well as in US military maps, the name "Sidra" of the oil port is given precedence over the name "Sirte" of the old coastal city. However, I have checked the Arabic version of the article, and reverted to the use of the traditional name "Gulf of Sirte" as in the Arabic Wikipedia. The Arabic version of both names is also provided and the name "Gulf of Sidra" figures prominently in the infobox. [[User:Xufanc|Xufanc]] ([[User talk:Xufanc|talk]]) 07:14, 21 October 2016 (UTC) |
::It is true that in articles on military incidents in the 1980s, as well as in US military maps, the name "Sidra" of the oil port is given precedence over the name "Sirte" of the old coastal city. However, I have checked the Arabic version of the article, and reverted to the use of the traditional name "Gulf of Sirte" as in the Arabic Wikipedia. The Arabic version of both names is also provided and the name "Gulf of Sidra" figures prominently in the infobox. [[User:Xufanc|Xufanc]] ([[User talk:Xufanc|talk]]) 07:14, 21 October 2016 (UTC) |
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:::I'm confused by this, if the most common English usage is "Gulf of Sidra", doesn't that mean that it should be the title on the English version of Wikipedia regardless of what the Arabic version uses? |
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==Article Digression== |
==Article Digression== |
Revision as of 15:39, 8 July 2017
Why are the American pilots named, but not the ~40 Libyans killed in the 1986 bombings?
Sources
This page is in dire need of sources as evidence. This is nearly as bad as me reading that Billy Mays wrestled a bear for a thousand dollars, but I am willing to accept it if it had sources. Ulgar (talk) 04:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- You're right. Although, a lot of the information seems to be supported by the links on the 'See Also' and 'References' sections. I'm not sure if that's sufficient for Wikipedia's standards. I'll try to look into it. Agsftw (talk) 08:43, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- The National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (2002) "Sector 1.Coast of Libya" Sailing Directions (Enroute) for Eastern Mediterranean (tenth edition) National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, Bethesda, Maryland, page 6 say:
- Khalij Surt (Gulf of Sidra)
- 1.6 Khalij Surt (32˚00'N., 18˚00'E.), an extensive gulf, is entered between Qasr Ahmad (Misurata Marina) and Banghazi, about 250 miles E. Several important oil terminals are situated on the shores of the gulf.
- The prevailing winds in the gulf are from the NW and NE, and they often raise heavy swells which pound the shores of the gulf. The ghibli, a hot and dry wind from the desert, blows from the S and SE into the gulf and often carries sand and dust. This wind blows more frequent in spring and autumn, and may last from a few hours to several days.
- The prevailing current in the gulf sets SW, at a rate of 0.25 to 0.75 knot, depending on the wind force from the NW or NE. During the winter, the current sets SE during the NW wind; in summer, the current sets NW.
- The current appears to form a clockwise gyre in the E part of Khalij Surt, and flows S and W along the E and S shores of the gulf. It turns N when E of Surt, where it again joins the main E flow along the Libyan coast to Egypt.
--Bejnar (talk) 19:00, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
U.S. ELINT Incidents
I added two paragraphs detailing two relevant incidents involving ELINT aircraft being fired upon over U.S. recognized international waters near Libya. I modified the last sentence in the first paragraph of the 'Territorial Claim' section to more properly reflect the paragraphs following it. If there are any issues with this modification, please let me know. Agsftw (talk) 11:06, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Name?
If the city is called "Sirte", why is the Gulf called "Sidra"? Shouldn't this article be under "Gulf of Sirte"? Gryffindor (talk) 11:28, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
- Per WP:AT, it should be under whatever the prevalent English-language usage in WP:RS is. A quick Google shows the current title beating Gulf of Sirte by 285k:181k, and on Google Books, it's more than 2:1. Wareh (talk) 17:54, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
- It is true that in articles on military incidents in the 1980s, as well as in US military maps, the name "Sidra" of the oil port is given precedence over the name "Sirte" of the old coastal city. However, I have checked the Arabic version of the article, and reverted to the use of the traditional name "Gulf of Sirte" as in the Arabic Wikipedia. The Arabic version of both names is also provided and the name "Gulf of Sidra" figures prominently in the infobox. Xufanc (talk) 07:14, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
- I'm confused by this, if the most common English usage is "Gulf of Sidra", doesn't that mean that it should be the title on the English version of Wikipedia regardless of what the Arabic version uses?
- It is true that in articles on military incidents in the 1980s, as well as in US military maps, the name "Sidra" of the oil port is given precedence over the name "Sirte" of the old coastal city. However, I have checked the Arabic version of the article, and reverted to the use of the traditional name "Gulf of Sirte" as in the Arabic Wikipedia. The Arabic version of both names is also provided and the name "Gulf of Sidra" figures prominently in the infobox. Xufanc (talk) 07:14, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
Article Digression
This is turning into a page more about military events then it is about the body of water itself... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 214.15.218.61 (talk) 12:52, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Disambiguation needed
There is a Syrtis Major Planum as well and Syrtis Major redirects here. 130.234.244.49 (talk) 10:42, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Nevermind, Syrtis Major was already a disambiguation, but Syrtis major was redirect. Fixed. 130.234.244.49 (talk) 10:48, 3 October 2015 (UTC)