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I edited the [[Cyrus Nowrasteh]] article on 18 September, 2006, at 22:45PM, not realizing at the time that I was not logged in. For some reason unbeknownst to the world, you reverted the edit. If you did that because I did not do the edit under a registered username, I think the reversion undermines the principle of wikipedia. I have no interest in defaming anyone - I think my original edit clarified the facts of the allegation, thus diminishing any possible defamation against Mr. Nowrasteh. If I appear to be a bit irritated, it is because the text on the page as it appeared before my edit was heavily biased, and did more to bring disrepute to his family than to bring to light the nature of the allegations. Here is my argument: 1) The allegation came from the Huffington Post, a self-proclaimed blog site - not the news media, not a "sourced investigation" in the least ... 2) The page on IMDB does not confirm any identifiable information as to the user that potentially acclaimed the film in question ... 3) The allegation involves only two pieces of identifiable information linked to Mr. Nowrasteh -- his wife's name and their hometown, both publicly available information ... 4) There could possibly be more than one person named Betsy living in Camarillo, CA ... 5) The post on IMDB could just as easily have been placed maliciously by someone intending to portray Mr. Nowrasteh in a negative light, given that all of the identifiable information was publicly available. The fact that you reverted my edit with no explanation whatsoever leaves me completely nonplussed. [[User:EddieH|EddieH]] 03:48, 2 October 2006 (UTC) |
I edited the [[Cyrus Nowrasteh]] article on 18 September, 2006, at 22:45PM, not realizing at the time that I was not logged in. For some reason unbeknownst to the world, you reverted the edit. If you did that because I did not do the edit under a registered username, I think the reversion undermines the principle of wikipedia. I have no interest in defaming anyone - I think my original edit clarified the facts of the allegation, thus diminishing any possible defamation against Mr. Nowrasteh. If I appear to be a bit irritated, it is because the text on the page as it appeared before my edit was heavily biased, and did more to bring disrepute to his family than to bring to light the nature of the allegations. Here is my argument: 1) The allegation came from the Huffington Post, a self-proclaimed blog site - not the news media, not a "sourced investigation" in the least ... 2) The page on IMDB does not confirm any identifiable information as to the user that potentially acclaimed the film in question ... 3) The allegation involves only two pieces of identifiable information linked to Mr. Nowrasteh -- his wife's name and their hometown, both publicly available information ... 4) There could possibly be more than one person named Betsy living in Camarillo, CA ... 5) The post on IMDB could just as easily have been placed maliciously by someone intending to portray Mr. Nowrasteh in a negative light, given that all of the identifiable information was publicly available. The fact that you reverted my edit with no explanation whatsoever leaves me completely nonplussed. [[User:EddieH|EddieH]] 03:48, 2 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:Move on from this reversion...add whatever you wanted to add and see how other editors respond. My deletion was likely due to my perception that it was either POV pushing or vandalism. If it wasn't, my apologies. Regardless...be bold, as I apparently was in the reversion and happy editing. Don't forget to use the edit summary when you do![[User:Kukini|Kukini]] 06:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC) |
:Move on from this reversion...add whatever you wanted to add and see how other editors respond. My deletion was likely due to my perception that it was either POV pushing or vandalism. If it wasn't, my apologies. Regardless...be bold, as I apparently was in the reversion and happy editing. Don't forget to use the edit summary when you do![[User:Kukini|Kukini]] 06:13, 2 October 2006 (UTC) |
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Okay, thanks - I'm sorry if I came off as a bit rude. I've just seen a lot of reputations tarnished by allegations and accusations from a single person based on little or no evidence, and I don't think wikipedia should be used that way. I have no problem with leaving such things in a page of course, as they are inevitable given the nature of wikipedia, but only so long as the source and nature of the evidence is clear. [[User:EddieH|EddieH]] 06:45, 2 October 2006 (UTC) |
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== September Esperanza Newsletter == |
== September Esperanza Newsletter == |
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My admin logs: I will likely revert any attacks made on this page as well as any unsigned comments [1]. Thanks for the tipThanks for the tip on my user talk page. I hadn't tried using the warning templates before - I just tried it and it seems to work well. –Wookipedian 07:45, 7 September 2006 (UTC) Thank youThanks for the advice Kukini, I will be sure to follow it. Vinnievesh 09:05, 7 September 2006 (UTC) LethaniolHi Kukini, Thats for your post on my Talk page - just wondering if this was a general welcome or if you spoting that I was doing something wrong while tagging New Pages if inappropriate. Cheers --Lethaniol 16:30, 7 September 2006 (UTC) CheersVery prompt and friendly:) --Lethaniol 16:37, 7 September 2006 (UTC) MerckSourceSome Advice please Kukini - the page MerckSource - I highlighted as a possible advert and user deleted. How can far do you think these big companies can go before such pages are considered adverts? Cheers --Lethaniol 17:25, 7 September 2006 (UTC) Brackets in quotationI just undid your addition of brackets inside a quotation in The Path to 9/11. Please read the summary of my edit. If you know of, or can find a better way for it to look, then please modify it to that, but it isn't meant to be a link. A link is already made to that article anyway, and there's no need to have multiple links in prose to the same article. Thanks though. --luckymustard 17:32, 7 September 2006 (UTC) Thank you for your message. I will familiarize myself with the rules, conventions, etc. But! The first thing I did was upload an image by mistake to Wikipedia, instead of my own wiki. Any way to undo that? Truthboy 22:57, 8 September 2006 (UTC) Ta very muchThat was useful, totally forgot to have edit summaries. Keep up the good work. PeterCT 21:15, 10 September 2006 (UTC) (oh yeah, supposed to sign these too) On behalf of my schoolWhen I got on Wikipedia today at school, I noticed a message for this I.P. I am aplogizing on behalf of the Juvinile Delinquents here at my school, who feel it is funny. I am sorry for this. VandalismI think the repeated, identical deletions on David Loren Cunningham amount to vandalism. I'm not sure the proper procedure for dealing with this. Thanks for keeping an eye on it. Lagringa 07:34, 12 September 2006 (UTC) Thank youThanks for the weclome note. OBILI ® ± 17:50, 12 September 2006 (UTC) University of NationsAt least one of the IP's doing the reverts/deletions on the David L Cunningham article are traceable to The University of Nations. Not that I am terribly surprised. 64.75.242.56 -tracert leads to www.uofnkona.edu James Lloyd (unregistered user)
Go raibh maith agat!
Hi there hoopydinkConas tá tú? 02:49, 13 September 2006 (UTC) Thank you so much for supporting my RfA! It ended up passing and I'm rather humbled by the support (and a bit surprised that it was snowballed a day early!). Please let me know if I can help you out and I welcome any comments, questions, or advice you wish to share. Sláinte!
Quick QuestionThanks for the kudos, people are always telling me I know alot of stuff and with a little research, voila, that crap is verifiable, as they say around here. I like adding to the site, it gives me a chance to add some stuff that I really think ought to be here. Quick Question: How do you add links in the text to the reference list, I want to do it for the Rock Springs Massacre article I added, in fact in some cases I really need to. A mcmurray 04:09, 13 September 2006 (UTC) What if?What if there isn't a copy of the reference on the web, as is the case with a lot of the old article I referenced? A mcmurray 05:11, 13 September 2006 (UTC) FeedbackI rewrote this article Lou Albano and I would appreciate feedback . I'm still working on correcting grammar and spelling errors. Feedback is appreciated. Here is the "Before" and here is the After. Thank you. Kyros 23:08, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Contents questionIs there a way to alter the table of contents, like, say, move it? A mcmurray 00:14, 15 September 2006 (UTC) SorryI've gotten into the habit of hitting tab and then enter rather than explaining writing an edit summary. ;) This is me, I'm using my crappy AOL IPs: 69.145.123.171 Yes, I'm really an IP Sunday, September 17, 2006, 06:26 (UTC)
I am not a vandal!{{unblock|I've been autoblocked by you because my IP address was recently used by _Lovelymousexx. My name is Capt.Cool and my address is Drjekyll38@aol.com. Please return my rightful editing privileges.}}
User:4.21.182.18 and vandalismI noticed you gave the IP 4.21.182.18 a final warning back in June, I just reverted Wind power after this IP/user vandalised it. I can't see an appropriate section to report it in as the user hasn't had a vandalism warning for so long. If you don't mind, I'll let you deal with it. :) --B33R 17:16, 18 September 2006 (UTC) Reverting your pageJust an FYI: a user (Bartleby007) put a {{helpme}} tag on this page. I've removed it and offered him help on his talk page. (I suspect he may be upset that you've warned him a number of times.) Cheers! -- Merope Talk 18:39, 19 September 2006 (UTC) Not UpsetHi Kukini, I left a help msg. for you earlier and Merope assisted me. I just wanted to clarify that I am NOT upset that you reverted my edits today on two bios - I understand now why you did, and apologize for my beginner's mistakes. I understand the procedures better now and would like to return at some point to those bios to make additions and edits - indeed, I have already left 2 new discussion points on one, which I hope you will take a look at and approve. Thanks Bartleby007 22:27, 19 September 2006 (UTC) Newbie HereHey Mr. Kukini, I'm a brand new user and I desperately need an introduction to wikipedia and editing/formatting. Thanks, nice to meet ya. --DrZeus 05:25, 20 September 2006 (UTC) StrangeI am at a loss for why you would revert any page to one with heavily slanted editorial. The page for Cyrus Nowrasteh contains reference to a "sourced investigation" alleging that Nowrasteh or his family were involved in giving anonymous acclamations for his work. The so-called "investigation" were the views of one blogger, and the claims that the blogger brings cannot be verified by the link from the blog site to IMDB. In the future I will consider that the easiest way to defame a person and his family is to pose as one of them using publicly available information (such as the name of a wife and/or a hometown), and then pretend to inveigle the public on sites such as IMDB. No doubt some blogger will pick up the scent and further the deception, or perhaps even a wikipedia entry or three might be updated with additional disreputable statements! I am also vexed as to why you refuse to address the issue, and prefer to delete this from your talk page. Forgive me for not logging in every 10 minutes, but is this your way of dismissing even a vague notion that perhaps you are contributing to biased information? EddieH 00:53, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
I edited the Cyrus Nowrasteh article on 18 September, 2006, at 22:45PM, not realizing at the time that I was not logged in. For some reason unbeknownst to the world, you reverted the edit. If you did that because I did not do the edit under a registered username, I think the reversion undermines the principle of wikipedia. I have no interest in defaming anyone - I think my original edit clarified the facts of the allegation, thus diminishing any possible defamation against Mr. Nowrasteh. If I appear to be a bit irritated, it is because the text on the page as it appeared before my edit was heavily biased, and did more to bring disrepute to his family than to bring to light the nature of the allegations. Here is my argument: 1) The allegation came from the Huffington Post, a self-proclaimed blog site - not the news media, not a "sourced investigation" in the least ... 2) The page on IMDB does not confirm any identifiable information as to the user that potentially acclaimed the film in question ... 3) The allegation involves only two pieces of identifiable information linked to Mr. Nowrasteh -- his wife's name and their hometown, both publicly available information ... 4) There could possibly be more than one person named Betsy living in Camarillo, CA ... 5) The post on IMDB could just as easily have been placed maliciously by someone intending to portray Mr. Nowrasteh in a negative light, given that all of the identifiable information was publicly available. The fact that you reverted my edit with no explanation whatsoever leaves me completely nonplussed. EddieH 03:48, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Okay, thanks - I'm sorry if I came off as a bit rude. I've just seen a lot of reputations tarnished by allegations and accusations from a single person based on little or no evidence, and I don't think wikipedia should be used that way. I have no problem with leaving such things in a page of course, as they are inevitable given the nature of wikipedia, but only so long as the source and nature of the evidence is clear. EddieH 06:45, 2 October 2006 (UTC) September Esperanza Newsletter
Re: this is differentYou caught a restoration in progress. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 16:29, 21 September 2006 (UTC) David Loren Cunningham pageHi Kukini, since you seem to have been monitoring the above page, I thought I'd mention I just did some editing there and left notes on the discussion page. It seems that someone had gone in and done extensive editing, but with no notes on the discussion page and no edit summary that I could find. Anyway, I wanted to alert you that I had gone in to try to make sense of what had been done. Thanks Bartleby007 16:46, 21 September 2006 (UTC) More on CunninghamThanks for your quick response as always, Kukini. I made more changes including deletions that I'm sure you'll want to check. I argued my case in the discussion page. Looking forward to your thoughts - thanks for your attention. Bartleby007 17:31, 21 September 2006 (UTC) Follow-upKukini, thanks for indenting the quotation I added - I wanted to do that but wasn't sure how. Sorry about forgetting my signature - I usually remember. I still feel, however, that the controversy is extensively covered on The Path to 9/11 and Cyrus Nowrasteh pages and that my deletions take nothing away from the informaton about Cunningham. Also, about my deletion of the word "mysterious" - that seems to me to be a POV word implying something secretive about titling the miniseries "Untitled History Project" - there is no mystery at all; in fact, as everyone in Hollywood knows, projects are referred to in such a manner whenever a title has not yet been decided upon. Is it better to delete the word or for me to add this explanation? Is this something I simply put up for discussion? (oops, forgot my signature again) Bartleby007 19:31, 21 September 2006 (UTC) Cyrus NowrastehGreetings Kukini, I requested a few changes on the Discussion page of the above entry. Could you take a look at your convenience and give me your thoughts? Thanks as usual Bartleby007 17:20, 22 September 2006 (UTC) Basal Metabolic RateAloha Kukini. Thank you for your greetings on my talk page BRiley 00:21, 24 September 2006 (UTC) BRileyPTABRiley 00:21, 24 September 2006 (UTC) Wikipedia is an incredible use of the power of the Internet to do something good and wonderful. I do wish to remain a part of this effort and start adding to the base of knowledge. Please feel free to provide what ever advice you think I need to make the BMR page easy to understand but worthy of high intellectual consideration! BR "Conservative"Kukini, I responded to your comment on the Cyrus Nowrasteh page - please consider at your convenience. Thanks,Bartleby007 17:38, 26 September 2006 (UTC) |