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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MelanieN#https:.2F.2Fen.wikipedia.org.2Fwiki.2FUser_talk:Seraphim_System.23Reverts_under_DS

THIS is why I'm stressed. Because if I try to report something, no matter what I do - no matter how hard I try to follow wikipedia's crappy and contradictory policies and the instructions given by people like MelanieN - I get attacked for it while the abusers who are just following me page to page get off scot fucking free. I took your advice to reconsider quitting and look what it's gotten me: more WP:WIKIHOUNDING and miscellaneous harassment, including getting attacked for even trying to get stuff written up the right way. Morty C-137 (talk) 15:47, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Sorry to hear it's not going well. I'm afraid I don't have the time to investigate this current problem, as I'm busy this evening and I'll be away all day tomorrow - but I've always found MelanieN to be fair. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:38, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Lesson learned. MelanieN is looking for an excuse to attack me, you asked me to stay but you're "too busy" to look. It's clear I won't get fair treatment from anyone. Morty C-137 (talk) 16:41, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Sorry to see your retirement, but after a quick look (admittedly not in depth, because I do have a life of my own to lead and I am genuinely busy with personal things), I really don't see MelanieN attacking you. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:16, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

To review or not to review - that is the question

Relax for 15 minutes and read this. I trust your judgement implicitly so if you think I'm off my rocker, don't be afraid to say so. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:51, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Just spotted this in my archive, and I knew I'd forgotten something here - busy weekend, so I'll look soon. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 01:45, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

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Tnguyen4321

Tnguyen4321 (talk · contribs) was unblocked on the condition they refrain from editing Battle of Ia Drang completely. They agreed to that and were unblocked. Since being unblocked, the only edits they've made have been to Talk:Battle of Ia Drang. It's unclear to me if this violates the terms of their unblock. Given that it's unclear to me, I politely suggest (and obviously, you are free to ignore my suggestion) that you warn rather than reblock them, if they are indeed prohibited from the talk page, too. Note that I am a native English speaker; I suspect Tnguyen4321 is not. --Yamla (talk) 21:51, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

My understanding is I am prohibited to edit the article page not the talk page. Let me know if I misunderstood.Tnguyen4321 (talk) 00:29, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

@Yamla and Tnguyen4321: My intention was that Tnguyen4321 should keep away from the article completely, including the talk page, and don't discuss it anywhere - and go find something else to do that is unconnected with that subject. But I worded it badly, and because of that I don't think any sanction or warning is justified at this point. Tnguyen4321, I think the best option would be for you to voluntarily keep away from the subject of that battle completely, on all pages, with a reinstatement of the block if you violate your agreement. If you don't accept that, the alternative would be to seek a community ban, so I think it would look better for you if you did accept it voluntarily. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:14, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. Although I think it's kind of harsh, I have no problem of accepting it. That said, I have to add that I am under the impression that you think my participation and contribution to the subject cause more harm than good to Wikipedia to impose such a drastic restriction which goes beyond @Only:'s mention of incidents of edit warring at any article.Tnguyen4321 (talk) 11:18, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Who's counting eh  ;)

-I made it the sixth, as it goes. Not important though. Cheers, — fortunavelut luna 11:32, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

One block log entry is the extension of an existing block from one to two weeks, which I considered just one block - perhaps that's the difference? Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:34, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Heh. I think you're probably right- cheers! -still, that's why you're on the salary you are :) — fortunavelut luna 11:39, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm putting in for at least a 50% raise this year! Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:44, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Does that mean you're considering an RFB, Boing? I'd support you... Vanamonde (talk) 13:55, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

...man, that would blow the wages bill!

Nah, there's nothing crats do that I'd want to do - but thanks for the thought. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:20, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Ogando/Ground

Hello. Not having the drafts creation protected might be a good thing, since they're very good honeypots, and how I spotted the latest couple of attempts to recreate the articles (by seeing them pop up in my watchlist...). Cheers - Tom | Thomas.W ^talk 12:36, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) ...sounds like a honeytrap to me, Boing  ;) — fortunavelut luna 12:56, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

I did think of that, and I'm always torn - whether to try maximum denial in the hope they'll go away, or just keep catching them? As you're happy watching the drafts, I've unprotected. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:16, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

About that Jeff Dujon business

Hi, this is just in case you didn't see my reply on my own talk page (Wikipedia really needs a talk reply notification system)

"the only difference is you tried to hide it among some other additions."

• Cool. So at least you now admit that I did make legitimate contributions to the page instead of "unconstructive...vandalism"? (and I saw you kept them while removing the "autograph nonsense".) And regarding the "autograph nonsense": no I did not happen to make exactly the same addition purely by coincidence, because I copied and pasted it from a previous edit I saw while scanning through history. Because:

1. I know it's true;
2. Brady Haran 'is' a well-known person, so
3. it's an interesting trivia;
4. I was not aware of the existence of a bloodh wiki editing war (seriously look at that page who would even bother having an editing war there? About an autograph?)

And no I am not a part of some "organized disruption". All the examples you gave were made by clearly puppet accounts with almost no previous contributions, while I have a list of wikipedia contributions going back years. Seriously, use your head; if I want to start socking, I make fake accounts, I don't use my own actual account. And yeah I'm pissed because I got banned indefinitely with pretty much no explaination or warning.The 51st Division (talk) 15:25, 15 July 2017 (UTC)