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:The BBC article does actually talk about collusion, once: ''President Trump has repeatedly denied any '''collusion''' with Russia, calling the allegations a "witch hunt"'', it states. So this is paraphrasing and interpreting Trump's actions as collusion, which means that this part of the article does have a leg to stand on. [[User:My name is not dave|<sup><font color="#009933">My</font></sup><sup> <font color="#009933">name</font></sup> <sup><font color="#009933">is</font></sup><font color="4000FF"><small>not</small></font><sup><font color="#009933">dave</font></sup>]] <small>([[User talk:My name is not dave|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/My name is not dave|contribs]])</small> 18:44, 14 July 2017 (UTC) |
:The BBC article does actually talk about collusion, once: ''President Trump has repeatedly denied any '''collusion''' with Russia, calling the allegations a "witch hunt"'', it states. So this is paraphrasing and interpreting Trump's actions as collusion, which means that this part of the article does have a leg to stand on. [[User:My name is not dave|<sup><font color="#009933">My</font></sup><sup> <font color="#009933">name</font></sup> <sup><font color="#009933">is</font></sup><font color="4000FF"><small>not</small></font><sup><font color="#009933">dave</font></sup>]] <small>([[User talk:My name is not dave|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/My name is not dave|contribs]])</small> 18:44, 14 July 2017 (UTC) |
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This example is still out of context with the rest of the page. The entirety of this page, except the example of Trump Jr., is discussing '''economic and financial collusion only'''. Campaign malfeasance and things of that nature have separate pages where this example would clearly fit better. A news site like BBC simply labeling it collusion does not automatically make it true, or relevant to the page. BBC is free to label Trump Jr. whatever they like, that does not make it legally correct without an indictment, at the very least. For example, they're free to print an article that states Trump is a horse, but clearly he would not be mentioned in page about horses just because of it. Including Trump Jr. in this page is out of place. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/198.160.14.62|198.160.14.62]] ([[User talk:198.160.14.62#top|talk]]) 15:25, 17 July 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
This example is still out of context with the rest of the page. The entirety of this page, except the example of Trump Jr., is discussing '''economic and financial collusion only'''. Campaign malfeasance and things of that nature have separate pages where this example would clearly fit better. A news site like BBC simply labeling it collusion does not automatically make it true, or relevant to the page. BBC is free to label Trump Jr. whatever they like, that does not make it legally correct without an indictment, at the very least. For example, they're free to print an article that states Trump is a horse, but clearly he would not be mentioned in page about horses just because of it. Including Trump Jr. in this page is out of place and comes off as too partisan for Wikipedia. If the entirety of the article was re-written and the scope was broadened to include political collusion, '''then''' a case could be made to include this example. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/198.160.14.62|198.160.14.62]] ([[User talk:198.160.14.62#top|talk]]) 15:25, 17 July 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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FIFA corruption
Should the FIFA corruption conspiracy be added to the "Examples" section? --Mr. Guye (talk) 21:52, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
Dr. Bigoni's comment on this article
Dr. Bigoni has reviewed this Wikipedia page, and provided us with the following comments to improve its quality:
Collusion which is overt, on the other hand, is known as tacit collusion, and is legal. The meaning of "overt" here is not clear. It is true that collusion is not based on explicit agreements is not illegal.
We hope Wikipedians on this talk page can take advantage of these comments and improve the quality of the article accordingly.
Dr. Bigoni has published scholarly research which seems to be relevant to this Wikipedia article:
- Reference : Bigoni, Maria & Fridolfsson, Sven-Olof & Le Coq, Chloe & Spagnolo, Giancarlo, 2014. "Trust, Leniency and Deterrence�," Konkurrensverket Working Paper Series in Law and Economics 2014:2, Konkurrensverket (Swedish Competition Authority).
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Examples not being in context with the article
Donald Trump Jr. and Russia: "On 9 July came news of what was thought to be the first confirmed private meeting between a Russian national and members of President Trump's inner circle" in an attempt to collude against Hillary Clinton's election and against the democracy of the United States of America. "The president's son, Donald Trump Jr, admitted meeting Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya on 9 June 2016 after being told that she had damaging material on Hillary Clinton."[4]
My interpretation of the definition of collusion by this very article doesn't match the written information nor the definition in the sourced material. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.89.48.116 (talk) 21:17, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- The BBC article does actually talk about collusion, once: President Trump has repeatedly denied any collusion with Russia, calling the allegations a "witch hunt", it states. So this is paraphrasing and interpreting Trump's actions as collusion, which means that this part of the article does have a leg to stand on. My name isnotdave (talk/contribs) 18:44, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
This example is still out of context with the rest of the page. The entirety of this page, except the example of Trump Jr., is discussing economic and financial collusion only. Campaign malfeasance and things of that nature have separate pages where this example would clearly fit better. A news site like BBC simply labeling it collusion does not automatically make it true, or relevant to the page. BBC is free to label Trump Jr. whatever they like, that does not make it legally correct without an indictment, at the very least. For example, they're free to print an article that states Trump is a horse, but clearly he would not be mentioned in page about horses just because of it. Including Trump Jr. in this page is out of place and comes off as too partisan for Wikipedia. If the entirety of the article was re-written and the scope was broadened to include political collusion, then a case could be made to include this example. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.160.14.62 (talk) 15:25, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
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- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 01:25, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
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