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{{reply to|Midnightblueowl}} I've discovered something very cool! [[:File:Joseph Stalin birth registration.jpg|The birth registration of Joseph Stalin]]! I got it from the National Archives of Georgia. |
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[[File:Joseph Stalin birth registration crop.jpg|right|thumb]] |
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I sent it to Donald Rayfield, who is a professor of Georgian at Queen Mary University in London. He graciously offered me these translations: |
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დეკემბერი |
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6 | 17 | იოსებ | გორში მცხოვრებელი, გლეხი ბესარიონ ივანეს ძე ჯუღაშვილი |
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და სჯულიერი ცოლი ამისი ეკატერინა გაბრიელის ასული, |
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ორივე მართლიმადიდებელისა სარწმუნებისა |
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Hi '''MaisonHorta'''! Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia. <br />Be our guest at [[w:WP:teahouse|the Teahouse]]! The Teahouse is a friendly space where new editors can ask questions about contributing to Wikipedia and get help from experienced editors like {{noping|Missvain}} ([[User_talk:Missvain|talk]]). |
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dek'emberi |
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6 |17 | Ioseb | Gorshi mcxovrebeli, glexi Besarion Ivanes dze Jughashvili |
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da sjulieri coli amisi ek'at'erina gabrielis asuli, |
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orive martlimadidebelisa sarc'munebisa |
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[the ' after a consonant indicates htat it is not aspirated, but glottalised] |
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6 |17| Joseph | in Gori living, peasant Besarion Ivane's son Jughashvili |
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and lawful wife of the latter Ekaterina Gabriel's daughter, |
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both of Orthodox Faith |
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So it seems Stalin's father had the middle name of "Ivanes" (which in Georgian means "son of Ivane"). Stalin's mother had the name "Gabrielis", though I'm not sure if this is a surname or a middle name. Prof Rayfield will tell me on Monday. |
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I'm going to update the articles for Stalin's mother and father with these names. |
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== June 2017 == |
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I'm also going to get the school diploma of Stalin. That will be interesting to, right? |
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You've been away from the Stalin articles for a few weeks. Have you lost interest? That's a pity because you've left a lot of mistakes that Materialscientist won't allow me to correct. That makes sad. [[User:MaisonHorta|MaisonHorta]] ([[User talk:MaisonHorta#top|talk]]) 13:14, 29 July 2017 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 13:14, 29 July 2017
@Midnightblueowl: I've discovered something very cool! The birth registration of Joseph Stalin! I got it from the National Archives of Georgia.
I sent it to Donald Rayfield, who is a professor of Georgian at Queen Mary University in London. He graciously offered me these translations:
დეკემბერი 6 | 17 | იოსებ | გორში მცხოვრებელი, გლეხი ბესარიონ ივანეს ძე ჯუღაშვილი და სჯულიერი ცოლი ამისი ეკატერინა გაბრიელის ასული, ორივე მართლიმადიდებელისა სარწმუნებისა
Transliteration:
dek'emberi
6 |17 | Ioseb | Gorshi mcxovrebeli, glexi Besarion Ivanes dze Jughashvili da sjulieri coli amisi ek'at'erina gabrielis asuli, orive martlimadidebelisa sarc'munebisa
[the ' after a consonant indicates htat it is not aspirated, but glottalised]
Word-for-word trranslation December 6 |17| Joseph | in Gori living, peasant Besarion Ivane's son Jughashvili and lawful wife of the latter Ekaterina Gabriel's daughter, both of Orthodox Faith
So it seems Stalin's father had the middle name of "Ivanes" (which in Georgian means "son of Ivane"). Stalin's mother had the name "Gabrielis", though I'm not sure if this is a surname or a middle name. Prof Rayfield will tell me on Monday.
I'm going to update the articles for Stalin's mother and father with these names.
I'm also going to get the school diploma of Stalin. That will be interesting to, right?
You've been away from the Stalin articles for a few weeks. Have you lost interest? That's a pity because you've left a lot of mistakes that Materialscientist won't allow me to correct. That makes sad. MaisonHorta (talk) 13:14, 29 July 2017 (UTC)