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Populality indices of Emmanuel Macron

See page 9 of your source. It says 36% Total satisfied, 64% Total dissatisfied for August.―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 13:45, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

@Phoenix7777: It's not from the same series of polls; Ifop has so far conducted popularity polls with different wordings for three clients – JDD, Paris Match, and Le Figaro. JDD and Paris Match are each in series while Le Figaro was a one-off poll on the first 100 days. The question wordings differ for all three of these polls, and the 100-day poll was a one-off with a wording that differed from both. Note again the impact of question wording on responses. I'd prefer to keep any such chart only in the same series of polls; e.g. Odoxa with Odoxa, Elabe with Elabe, Ifop-JDD with Ifop-JDD, etc. (There's also other pollsters which have conducted polls at arbitrary points outside their usual series of political barometers, which I also haven't included on that page – they are not many, though; the only ones I can remember off the top of my head are the Harris/Elabe 100-day polls and Ipsos Trump/Macron France/U.S. surveys.) Mélencron (talk) 18:42, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

I am not sure what you are explaining here. The Independent says Just 36 per cent of the French public said they were satisfied with the President’s performance, with 64 per cent saying they were not, according to the latest Ifop poll. ... According to the same series of polls Mr Macron’s rating was as high as 64 per cent in late June and 54 per cent in late July – meaning the biggest falls in his popularity have come most recently. (emphsis mine) But I removed the August data from the chart. Please refresh your cache by pressing Ctrl+F5 to make sure you are reading the latest version of the chart.―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 19:54, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm saying it's not the same series of polls. There's the Ifop-JDD polls, Ifop-Paris Match polls, and the one-off poll conducted by Le Figaro. The chart isn't consistent in its selection of polls – in France poll aggregation doesn't really exist as a technique and most polls are compared only within the same type. Even if you want to compare Ifop polls, there are three separate ones at this point (two in series), as I've mentioned. See the original files linked on the user subpage and note the different questions presented by them (and that in the 100-day poll). (The Independent is wrong here in saying that it's the same series of polls... just of the reasons why I've refused to acknowledge its existence and use as a reliable source.) Mélencron (talk) 19:59, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

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Hello, this file you have uploaded et put in the article fr:Gilbert Barbier seems to be fr:Charles Revet (see here) and not Barbier (who look like this). Please correct the file and inclusions. Thank you. --Skouratov (talk) 09:42, 26 August 2017 (UTC)