Talk:Northern America

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América Septentrional

Enough. User Depoyster.dick is stubbornly pushing a POV and seems to want to start an edit war by pushing/forcing the wrong idea that in Spanish the term América Septentrional refers to the English term Northern America. There's simply no equivalent region in Spanish and besides the literal translation would be América Norteña. I, as a native speaker of Spanish, know that the term "septentrional" means "north" not "northern". América Septentrional is synonymous with América del Norte or Norteamérica, in the same way that América Meridional is synonymous with América del Sur or Sudamérica.

This POV fork has gone as far that he created the same account in Wikipedia in Spanish, and created the article América Septentrional, and when people told him Septentrional means América del Norte, he went on and created América Septentrional (región), which is now being deleted.

His reverts should stop because now they are in the line of purely disruptive. AlexCovarrubias ^{( Talk? )} 20:06, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

The etymology of septentrional more closely corresponds to 'northern' as opposed to 'north', since it is related to the number of stars in the Big Dipper, in the northern celestial sphere and a signal to early explorers. [1] [2] While the term is obsolete, it is nonetheless used, particularly in French and occasionally in Spanish [] There is little in the above commentary that is persuasive otherwise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.158.151.135 (talk) 12:34, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Block evasion by posting anonymously? I'll report. AlexCovarrubias ^{( Talk? )} 22:08, 7 August 2008 (UTC

PRo Tip; Mexico City is larger than New York.Toronto is Larger than Miami.)

some people include Mexico in it - who decided that mexico isn't in it?

for example http://www.cas.sc.edu/socy/faculty/deflem/zAMINPO.htm includes mexico93.96.148.42 (talk) 03:47, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Indeed. In all my years in public and private schools in several jurisdictions in the United States and run by the federal government overseas, in the 1980s and 1990s, we were taught Mexico was in (1) North America (with everything below Mexico being South America) and (2) Latin America. This article needs to reflect a bigger variety of meanings of the term North America. — President Lethe (talk) 19:27, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

This is Northern America. I think the idea of it as a region seperate from 'North' America was cooked specifically to exclude Mexico. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.252.69.193 (talk) 02:00, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Can we add a descriptive distinction between NORTH America and NORTHERN America in the first paragraph of the Article page? We have had entirely too many students using this page as evidence Mexico is not part of North America. It surely would not hurt the Article itself and would clear up all confusion in one short sentence.--75.17.193.238 (talk) 13:55, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Blatantly, the article quite possibly shouldn't even exist.

If you actually look at the history of this Wikipedia article, and also look, outside of Wikipedia, into the concept of "Northern America" as a phrase supposedly referring primarily to Canada and the United States (albeit with an ever-changing supposed shortlist of also-included Caribbean islands), it is difficult to escape the conclusion that "Northern America" is not a real concept in the real world -- that, in fact, the only traceable source of "Northern America" as a concept referring [primarily] to Canada and the United States is this very Wikipedia article. As far as I can tell, it was, in 2006, created with no academic backing whatsoever, and then over the years since refined through what I can only consider some form of mob-mentality, such that according to Wikipedia today, "Northern America" is a term which means something totally made up by Wikipedia editors over ten years.

I am brought to this page because it has become an issue regarding the North American English article. If you look at the recent history (today is 9/15/17) of that article you will see why I am here.

Here is something I posted on another's user page, which they removed with the paraphrased comment "please post on article talk page" without actually replying to it in anyway, which I took to mean that probably said user kind of realized I pretty much destroyed their stance but was unable to admit it.

" Then they are learning wrong. Do you think that just because a handful of idiots once tried to coin that as a label and made a tiny Wikipedia article about it, that means that's a real thing? As far as I can tell the only traceable source of the entire concept is, in fact, that Wikipedia article. Check out the entire text of the first version of the article: "Northern America is a name for the parts of North America besides Mexico when Mexico is considered as Latin America. It is more of a cultural-based term than geographically correct one." That sound like a real thing to you? This term and its current "meaning" was literally made up by Wikipedia editors over the last ten years. Monsieur Marionnette (talk) 04:40, 15 September 2017 (UTC) "

TL;DR -- This article quite possibly shouldn't even exist.

Monsieur Marionnette (talk) 03:36, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

EDIT: WE ALL KNOW THAT NOBODY SAYS THIS, EVER, AND THAT IT IS NOT A REAL THING. COME ON. Monsieur Marionnette (talk) 03:39, 16 September 2017 (UTC)