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[[Genesis (band)|Genesis]] began using the [[Electric grand piano|Yamaha CP-70/CP-80 Electric Grand Piano]] on "[[...And Then There Were Three...|Undertow]]", but the list is already far too long. The [[Electronic piano|RMI Electra Piano]] was first used by [[The Doors]] ("[[The Soft Parade|Shaman's Blues]]", "[[The Soft Parade (song)|The Soft Parade]]", "[[Morrison Hotel|Waiting for the Sun]]" and "[[Hello, I Love You]]") where [[Ray Manzarek]] played the RMI alongside the [[Gibson G-101]] organ. It was also used by [[John Lennon]] ([[Imagine (John Lennon song)|Imagine]], [[Oh My Love]] and [[Power to the People (song)|Power to the People]]), [[George Harrison]] ([[Hear Me Lord]]), [[Dr. John]] ([[Right Place, Wrong Time (Dr. John song)|Right Place, Wrong Time]]) [[Deep Purple]] ([[Fireball (album)|Demon's Eye]], [[Space Truckin']] and [[Never Before]]) and ([[Wild Life (Wings album)|Wild Life]]) by [[Wings (band)|Wings]] also uses the RMI, played by [[Linda McCartney]] as does [[Lady Marmalade]] by [[Labelle]] and [[I Shall Be Released]] by [[The Band]]. More recently, [[Evanescence (Evanescence album)|Oceans]] by [[Evanescence]] features [[Amy Lee]] playing the RMI alongside other analog keyboards, such as the [[Moog synthesizer]], [[Mellotron]] and [[Hammond organ]]. The RMI Electra Piano must not be confused with the '''Hohner Electra-Piano''' which was used by [[Led Zeppelin]] ([[Stairway to Heaven]], [[Misty Mountain Hop]], [[No Quarter (song)|No Quarter]] and [[Down by the Seaside]]) and by [[The Beatles]] in [[Come Together]] and [[I Me Mine]]. The [[Rhodes piano|Fender Rhodes]] was also used on [[Harmonium (Vanessa Carlton album)|C'est La Vie]] by [[Vanessa Carlton]]. --[[Special:Contributions/71.200.123.192|71.200.123.192]] ([[User talk:71.200.123.192|talk]]) 20:50, 17 March 2017 (UTC) |
[[Genesis (band)|Genesis]] began using the [[Electric grand piano|Yamaha CP-70/CP-80 Electric Grand Piano]] on "[[...And Then There Were Three...|Undertow]]", but the list is already far too long. The [[Electronic piano|RMI Electra Piano]] was first used by [[The Doors]] ("[[The Soft Parade|Shaman's Blues]]", "[[The Soft Parade (song)|The Soft Parade]]", "[[Morrison Hotel|Waiting for the Sun]]" and "[[Hello, I Love You]]") where [[Ray Manzarek]] played the RMI alongside the [[Gibson G-101]] organ. It was also used by [[John Lennon]] ([[Imagine (John Lennon song)|Imagine]], [[Oh My Love]] and [[Power to the People (song)|Power to the People]]), [[George Harrison]] ([[Hear Me Lord]]), [[Dr. John]] ([[Right Place, Wrong Time (Dr. John song)|Right Place, Wrong Time]]), [[Deep Purple]] ([[Fireball (album)|Demon's Eye]], [[Space Truckin']] and [[Never Before]]) and ([[Wild Life (Wings album)|Wild Life]]) by [[Wings (band)|Wings]] also uses the RMI, played by [[Linda McCartney]] as does [[Lady Marmalade]] by [[Labelle]] and [[I Shall Be Released]] by [[The Band]]. More recently, [[Evanescence (Evanescence album)|Oceans]] by [[Evanescence]] features [[Amy Lee]] playing the RMI alongside other analog keyboards, such as the [[Moog synthesizer]], [[Mellotron]] and [[Hammond organ]]. The RMI Electra Piano must not be confused with the '''Hohner Electra-Piano''' which was used by [[Led Zeppelin]] ([[Stairway to Heaven]], [[Misty Mountain Hop]], [[No Quarter (song)|No Quarter]] and [[Down by the Seaside]]) and by [[The Beatles]] in [[Come Together]] and [[I Me Mine]]. The [[Rhodes piano|Fender Rhodes]] was also used on [[Harmonium (Vanessa Carlton album)|C'est La Vie]] by [[Vanessa Carlton]]. --[[Special:Contributions/71.200.123.192|71.200.123.192]] ([[User talk:71.200.123.192|talk]]) 20:50, 17 March 2017 (UTC) |
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The Doors "Riders On The Storm", "Just the Way You Are" by Billy Joel, are both also mentioned as played with an rhodes piano (see article on rhodes piano). Who's right? Or are they the same thing? If so, shouldn't the articles be merged??
Jaapkroe 14:55, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
- A rhodes piano is an electric piano. --Trweiss 15:20, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
A tad lacking
No mention of the fork, the bar, pickup types, the hammers, the damper, tremolo, vibrato, House music, RnB, Wah, etc? The "explanation" of what a tine is is incorrect since the tine is actually part of the fork and only produces part of the sound (the high pitched attack) while the bar resonates at a lower frequency and is responsible for the unnatural sustain. Yup, this article needs a bit of work... Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 17:59, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
=Do It Again"
Re: "Wurlitzer Electric Piano 200 A...Steely Dan: 'Do It Again' ": Donald Fagen has said repeatedly ("Can't Buy a Thrill" liner notes, interviews) that this song's keyboard instrument solo uses some kind of organ Fagin chanced upon in the studio. 66.188.140.155 09:50, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
The solo was indeed played on a Yamaha combo organ (which has a strange pitch-bend ribbon) but the main keyboard used throughout the song is definitely a Wurlitzer electric piano. Simon Beck, April 17 2007
Rolling Stones, Black and Blue (1976)
Two of the most famous hits employing electric piano are not included here; "Fool to Cry" and "Memory Motel", Mick Jagger, Billy Preston, and Nicky Hopkins are all credited. More info needed!
Jagger can be seen composing on an electric piano in the Robert Frank documentary Cocksucker Blues Roz666 21:24, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- The list is already far too long, and I've never heard of "Memory Motel". TheScotch 05:21, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Well for Christ's sake, did you try clicking the link? The entry for the 1976 Black and Blue album credits Keith Richards on a Fender Rhodes Electric Piano. It does not state the chart-position of the song, but I know it was released as a single and remains quite popular. Roz666 22:24, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
e-piano?
Re: "An electric piano (e-piano)....":
This is the beginning of the opening sentence of this article. I don't know what "e-piano" means. Is it supposed to be an abbreviation? Is it supposed to be an alternate term? TheScotch 05:19, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
The phrase "e-piano" is sometimes used as an abbreviation for "electric piano" or even "electronic piano", although infrequently by native English speakers. It seems to originally be a German, Dutch or Scandinavian expression and is sometimes used by manufacturers of musical instruments as a sound name. 79.78.25.244 (talk) 08:36, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Rhodes annoucement versus Waldorf Zerenbourg?
Why only Rhodes annoucement made to the page?
There is also a germany company, called Waldorf Music that has also promised a revival of eletric pianos:
http://www.waldorfmusic.de/en/products/zarenbourg
ClebertSuconic 4 Jan 2009 (UTC)
The Waldorf instrument is not an electromechanical piano - rather it is a digital piano based around a physical modeling algorithm. 79.78.25.244 (talk) 08:21, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Wurlitzer uses 170V DC?
Do you really think that the Wurlizter uses DC 170 volts? That seems very high. Maybe the writer intended millivolts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.165.67.130 (talk) 16:45, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
It is definitely 170v DC - ask anyone who has ever worked on these instruments. Remember that when they were introduced there was no low-voltage solid-state circuitry, and such voltages were commonly used with tubes. The Wurlitzer pickup relies on a comparitively high voltage as it is an electrostatic pickup. The famous electrostatic loudspeakers made by British hi-fi manufacturer Quad use several Kv, so 170v is about right for the microphone equivalent. 79.78.25.244 (talk) 08:29, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Baldwin electric piano model no EP 100
I am wondering if the above piano can be tuned — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.75.229.227 (talk) 03:03, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
The Baldwin EP 100 can probably be tuned-if you know a good engineer. However, it does not have strings, so it can not be tuned in the traditional sense.
Irrelevant information!
Who added the information about Univox and their Compac piano? That instrument is NOT an electric piano; it is an electronic piano, and should not be in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.210.4.222 (talk) 18:31, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Electric piano used by The Beatles
There are several Beatles songs using the Hohner Pianet (You Like Me Too Much, Tell Me What You See, Dizzy Miss Lizzy, The Night Before, Think for Yourself, Getting Better, I Am the Walrus, Revolution, Savoy Truffle and I've Got a Feeling) and the Fender Rhodes played mostly by Billy Preston (Get Back, Don't Let Me Down, One After 909 and The Long and Winding Road) but also John Lennon (in Come Together) as well as Paul McCartney (in I Me Mine) but I'm not going to make these changes to the article because there shouldn't be a never-ending list of examples.--Kevjgav (talk) 20:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
Hohner Pianet, Fender Rhodes, Wurlitzer electric piano and Hohner Clavinet
I probably shouldn't be posting this, but there are some that are missing. The Rolling Stones used a Hohner Pianet in Get Off of My Cloud, a Hohner Clavinet in Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker), 100 Years Ago, Dancing with Mr. D and Fingerprint File (played by Billy Preston), a Fender Rhodes in Fool to Cry and Memory Motel and a Wurlitzer electric piano in Miss You and Emotional Rescue. Genesis used a Hohner Pianet in Seven Stones. Pink Floyd used a Fender Rhodes in many of their songs including Breathe and Hey You. They also used a Wurlitzer electric piano in Time, Money and Have a Cigar as well as a Hohner Clavinet in Pigs (Three Different Ones).--Kevjgav (talk) 07:24, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Some of these songs are already mentioned in the article, so I don't think that this is relevant for discussion. I must admit that I'm not really respecting the talk page guidelines here. Some of those artists and songs are missing from the article but I believe we can't have a never-ending list of examples, right?--Kevjgav (talk) 07:35, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Other songs with electric pianos
For the (Fender) Rhodes I added The Rolling Stones: "Fool to Cry", "Memory Motel". For the Hohner Clavinet I added John Lennon: "Whatever Gets You thru the Night", "#9 Dream" and The Rolling Stones: "Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)", "100 Years Ago", "Dancing with Mr. D", "Fingerprint File" (played by Billy Preston). For the Wurlitzer electric piano I added John Lennon: "How Do You Sleep?" and The Rolling Stones: "Miss You", "Emotional Rescue". I was just trying to expand the list. But if anyone wants to delete my examples, feel free. I know we can't have too many examples.--Kevjgav (talk) 09:31, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Also, for the Hohner Pianet I added Genesis: "Seven Stones". I'm just trying to be helpful but again, feel free to revert my edits. I believe we can't have too many examples.--Kevjgav (talk) 09:53, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Another thing; Shine On You Crazy Diamond used a Wurlitzer and not a Rhodes, so I edited that accordingly. I replaced it with Breathe in the Fender Rhodes section and moved Shine On You Crazy Diamond to the Wurlitzer section.--Kevjgav (talk) 10:17, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
I also added to the Wurlitzer electric piano section Van Halen: "And the Cradle Will Rock...". I also added Billy Joel: "It's Still Rock and Roll to Me". As I said feel free to revert my edits if need be. I'm just trying to be helpful.--Kevjgav (talk) 10:48, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
For the Hohner Clavinet I added "You Make Loving Fun" by Fleetwood Mac and "Life in the Fast Lane" by Eagles. If anyone wants to remove everything I added, feel free to do so.--Kevjgav (talk) 13:47, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
No articles for "Electra-Piano" and "Baldwin Combo-Harpsichord"
There are articles for most of pretty much all of the electric pianos and as well as the clavinet (essentially an electric clavichord). But I don't know why there are no articles for Hohner's Electra-Piano or the Baldwin Combo-Harpsichord (essentially an electric harpsichord). Maybe because there are so few users of these instruments. The only player of the Electra-Piano that I know of is John Paul Jones of Led Zeppelin and the only player of the Baldwin Combo-Harpsichord that I know of is The Beatles' contributor George Martin. But there is an article for cembalet, which Manfred Mann played in Do Wah Diddy Diddy and he is the only player of the cembalet I can think of. Nevertheless, can anyone please explain why there are no articles for the two instruments I just mentioned?--Kevjgav (talk) 16:46, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
New Kid in Town by The Eagles (Rhodes)
Joe Walsh played a (Fender) Rhodes in Eagles "New Kid in Town", so I added this to that section. My intentions are good, but I won't take it personally if that edit is reverted.--Kevjgav (talk) 11:27, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
I also updated the Hohner Pianet to say The Rolling Stones: "Get Off of My Cloud" where Brian Jones played this instrument, which was the most popular electric piano in the mid-1960's.--Kevjgav (talk) 11:31, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Other songs
I just added a few more songs using this instrument in the individual sections. For the Hohner Pianet section I added "Apples and Oranges", "Chapter 24" by Pink Floyd and "Joy to the World" by Three Dog Night. For The Hohner Cembalet section I added "I'm into Something Good" by Herman's Hermits (played by Roger Webb) and for the Baldwin Combo Harpsichord section I added Pink Floyd's See Emily Play and for the Wurlitzer electric piano section I added Outlaw Man by Eagles. My intentions were good. I don't have a user account, so if anyone wants to revert my edits, feel free.--73.135.139.61 (talk) 11:21, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Have a Cigar by Pink Floyd uses a Hohner Clavinet, (see Have a Cigar#Personnel) so don't forget about that.--71.200.124.179 (talk) 03:22, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
I added more songs too in the respective sections of the instrument used in these songs, but if anyone wants to revert my edits, and perhaps leave a message on my talk page, feel free. Like 73.135.139.61, I have no user account and after all, Wikipedia is collaborative, not competitive. I do realize that we can't have a never-ending list of examples. In recent years, the Wurlitzer electric piano was used on Feelin' the Same Way by Norah Jones and the Fender Rhodes was used on Superwoman by Alicia Keys. The Hohner Clavinet is also used by No Doubt ("Underneath It All"), Billy Joel ("We Didn't Start the Fire") and The Band ("Up on Cripple Creek") and the Wurlitzer electric piano by The Band ("Life Is a Carnival"), Booker T. & the M.G.'s ("Chinese Checkers"), Martha and the Vandellas ("Nowhere to Run") and Aretha Franklin's ("I Never Loved a Man (The Way I Love You)") (original research based on sound) but please, no more examples.--71.200.124.179 (talk) 11:02, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
I've added "Born to Be My Baby" by Bon Jovi as using the Yamaha CP-70/CP-80 Electric Grand Piano. This instrument is prominently featured in the verses.--71.200.124.179 (talk) 15:17, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
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The RMI Rock-Si-Chord. Weeb Dingle (talk) 02:53, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
Popular songs
The Hohner Cembalet was first used on The Lion Sleeps Tonight by The Tokens (played by Neil Sedaka) and the Hohner Clavinet was first used on "I Thank You" by Sam & Dave (played by Booker T. Jones, while Isaac Hayes played organ), and if my edits are reverted, it's because what I think I'm hearing is WP:OR, which doesn't hold up compared to the facts. --73.86.248.174 (talk) 14:31, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
I've also added James Taylor's "Don't Let Me Be Lonely Tonight", "Walking Man", "How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved by You)" and "Shower the People" and Fleetwood Mac's "Dreams" to the Fender Rhodes section, and added Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire", along with "Hold On, I'm Comin'" and "Soul Man" by Sam & Dave to the Hohner Clavinet section. The Hohner Clavinet is essentially an electric clavichord (The Beatles used a real clavichord on For No One and A Day in the Life, played by Paul McCartney), but I know about WP:No original research and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. The Fender Rhodes was first used on Stuff by Miles Davis on May 17, 1968 and played by Herbie Hancock. I probably shouldn't be posting this, per WP:Talk page guidelines and WP:NOTFORUM. --73.86.248.174 (talk) 00:29, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
Genesis began using the Yamaha CP-70/CP-80 Electric Grand Piano on "Undertow", but the list is already far too long. The RMI Electra Piano was first used by The Doors ("Shaman's Blues", "The Soft Parade", "Waiting for the Sun" and "Hello, I Love You") where Ray Manzarek played the RMI alongside the Gibson G-101 organ. It was also used by John Lennon (Imagine, Oh My Love and Power to the People), George Harrison (Hear Me Lord), Dr. John (Right Place, Wrong Time), Deep Purple (Demon's Eye, Space Truckin' and Never Before) and (Wild Life) by Wings also uses the RMI, played by Linda McCartney as does Lady Marmalade by Labelle and I Shall Be Released by The Band. More recently, Oceans by Evanescence features Amy Lee playing the RMI alongside other analog keyboards, such as the Moog synthesizer, Mellotron and Hammond organ. The RMI Electra Piano must not be confused with the Hohner Electra-Piano which was used by Led Zeppelin (Stairway to Heaven, Misty Mountain Hop, No Quarter and Down by the Seaside) and by The Beatles in Come Together and I Me Mine. The Fender Rhodes was also used on C'est La Vie by Vanessa Carlton. --71.200.123.192 (talk) 20:50, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
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