User talk:Aquafish

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I don't appreciate my good faith edits to be labeled as vandalism. Thanks. Mak (talk) 01:12, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

I generally take "rvv" to represent revert vandalism. Mak (talk) 01:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, just "rv" would probably be better if what you're reverting isn't vandalism. And if it's not vandalism, it's nice to give a reason you're reverting, such as "rv. POV" or "rv. unnecessary spelling change". Mak (talk) 01:59, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Welcome!

Hello, Aquafish, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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The 3RR or "three-revert rule" is a rule that says you must not revert any page more than 3 times in any 24-hour period. Not that reverting up to 3 times is good! The point is that reversion is a kind of edit warring that makes things worse: the only real point to it is to declare that you disagree with the entirety of the change. Once you've done it once, the other person should know you object, and the time has come to start discussing the issue. As for featured and good articles, check out What is a Featured article? and What is a Good article?. Articles with those statuses are recognized as especially good encyclopedia articles. And BTW, I find that part of the project very rewarding. :) Mangojuice^talk 14:56, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry about the questions. If I don't respond quickly, you can also use the {{helpme}} tag to ask questions. You can't block vandals because only admins can block users. Be careful though: remember that "vandalism" is worse than just edits you don't agree with (see WP:VAN). As for the messages bar, I couldn't say. Sometimes people make slight edits to their comments on your talk page, and this looks like a new message. And sometimes if you open up multiple windows at once, the "new message" thing will show on all of them, and when you check the message, they don't go away. Other than that, no idea. Mangojuice^talk 01:22, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Again, you can't delete pages. If you want a redirect deleted, it's best to list it at WP:RFD. Mangojuice^talk 20:02, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Helpme

How do I semi-protect a page like the banners I've seen on other protected pages? Aquafish talk 03:06, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

You'd need to be an admin to do that. If not, you can ask an admin to do it for you by going to the admin noticeboard. Jfingers88 03:52, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for page protection would actually be better. Sorry. Jfingers88 03:53, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Response to your question

No, images are excluded from categories. You can check out WP:CAT for more information. Cheers! -- Merope ^Talk 02:16, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I am entirely wrong! Sorry about that; there are cats for images--it's just that images are excluded from cats that contain articles. -- Merope ^Talk 02:29, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Since it's my fault, I'll revert your edits. (It's easy for me to do it since I'm an admin.) Again, I'm really sorry about this! -- Merope ^Talk 02:32, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Done. It's easier because I can look at all your contributions and a button appears next to each line that says "rollback". By clicking it, it undoes your last edit instantly. It's extremely helpful for fighting vandalism. -- Merope ^Talk 02:35, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I just became an admin yesterday, and I have to say, it's a lot of work and a lot of responsibility. Anyway, have a good night! -- Merope ^Talk 02:37, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to Esperanza!

Welcome, Aquafish, to Esperanza! As you might know, all the Esperanzians share one important goal: the success of this encyclopedia. Within that, we then attempt to strengthen the community bonds, and be the "approachable" side of the project. All of our ideals are held in the Charter, the governing document of the association.

Now that you are a member you should read the guide to what to do now or you may be interested in some of our programs. A quite important program is Stressbusters, which seeks to support editors who have encountered any stress from their Wikipedia events, and are seeking to leave the project. So far, Esperanza can be credited with the support and retention of several users. We will send you newsletters to keep you up to date. Also, we have a calendar of special events, member birthdays, and other holidays that you can add to and follow.

In addition to these projects, several more missions of Esperanza are in development, and are currently being created at Esperanza/Proposals.

If you have any other questions, concerns, comments, or general ideas, Esperanzian or otherwise, know that you can always contact Natalya by email or talk page. Consider introducing yourself at the Esperanza talk page! Alternatively, you could communicate with fellow users via our IRC channel, #wikipedia-esperanza (which is also good for a fun chat or two :). If you're new to IRC, you may find help at an IRC tutorial. I thank you for joining Esperanza, and look forward to working with you in making Wikipedia a better place to work!

--Slgr@ndson (page - messages - contribs) 03:46, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I'd also like to extend to you a warm welcome. I hope you enjoy the community, and please don't hesitate to come to me with any questions. -- Cielomobile ^minor7♭5 04:03, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

your edit pattern

I take it from your edit pattern, you are trying to quickly hit all of the major criteria for Admin status and then make another run at AFD (like you tried with your socks here and on the simple Wikipedia).

I think I should make it clear here at this junction that I'll do everything I am able to prevent such an occurance. --Charlesknight 16:57, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Peer review help

Thanks for your help with the peer review, but the problem isn't quite fixed. The link to the old peer review (the one where the linked word is "archived") links to the newly posted peer review, and the old one is now gone. Any ideas?--Dark Kubrick 20:40, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

But aren't both peer reviews supposed to be linked on the article's talk page? The talk page now only has the link to the current peer review, which it says is "archived". To get to the old peer review, you would have to type in that whole name.--Dark Kubrick 21:12, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Very frustrating those tricky links are.--Dark Kubrick 21:27, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Indefinitely blocked

It's quite obvious that you're a sockpuppet of ForestH2 et al., and after continued disruption [1], similar edit patterns [2] [3] [4] [5], and general exhaustion of patience, I have indefinitely blocked you again. Ral315 (talk) 21:27, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

1 2, and 5 are not against me. I am rather suprised you decided to block me. I am HIS brother. What don't you understand? I am allowed to comment on Kpjas' talkpage, allowed to vote delete in Little Einstiens, allowed to change grammer in the Arbitration report for David.Mestel, and I was doing the correct thing in #1. I will request unblock. Aquafish talk 21:29, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

This user is asking that their block be reviewed:

Aquafish (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Please see my above comment, a reply to Ral315. I am tired of being blocked. I am ForestH2's brother. I am editing politican articles. Please see the help desk for #1. I do not have the same interests. Nethier disruption. What happend to the promise I had with Mangojuice. No editing the Signpost? I've kept that, I've edited just politican articles. And your also saying I can't vote delete in a wikiproject. Totally absurd. Would someone report this to Mangojuice? And unblock me?

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I have asked Mangojuice to review this one. Guy 21:45, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I've edited just politican articles. - why do you lie? Is that all you've edited? No Spongebob articles in there? (Note to any admin looking at this unblock request): Forrest set up a bent Wikiproject with a number of his socks. --Charlesknight 21:48, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

True, I edited some SpongeBob articles in there such as The Best Day Ever. I was random aritcling and found that article. Even if it was SpongeBob I decided that it should be deleted and I nominated it for deletion. I am not a member of the SBSP Wikiproject nethier am I editing SpongeBob SquarePants articles besides Best Day Ever and Bummer Vacation. For notice, more thanhalf of my edits are to politican articles and US Congress articles. Mangojuice can you look at my unblock request where I am in detail? Also, can I see a response to the earlier response I gave you? Aquafish talk 21:54, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I am not a member of the SBSP Wikiproject

So what's all this about? You are not a member but are just editing project pages?

neither am I editing SpongeBob SquarePants articles besides Best Day Ever and Bummer Vacation.

So what's this,and this, what about this? or this?

Why tell such obvious lies? --Charlesknight 22:07, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Very funny. I meant articles surrounding the subjects Bummer Vacation and Wigstruck. Aquafish talk 22:15, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

What about images associated with Spongebob articles? I make it about 30 you have edited - or does that fall under neither am I editing SpongeBob SquarePants articles besides Best Day Ever and Bummer Vacation. --Charlesknight 22:19, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I will not lie about that. That was because another admin told me to because he thought they were breaking policy but then he found out he made a mistake. Aquafish talk 22:39, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Also, you edit the same images, and after just eight edits (five to your user page and three to the sandbox) find your way to WP:AIV and "report" multiple socks of (for the record, that one's on AN/I) ForestH2 minutes after the accounts are created. After people start questioning your edits, you claim that you edit different subject areas (how did you know what he edited?), and then only after more questioning did you claim that you're his brother. You also attempt to say that you're unaware of who ForestH2 is, even after you claim to be his brother and shown insight about which articles and pages he has edited. I will not be so bold as to deny the unblock, given that the (un)blocking admin has already been contacted, but strongly discourage this user from being unblocked. Thanks. Flcelloguy (A note?) 22:27, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Forest told me what subjects he edited here. SpongeBob, Drake & Josh, Little Einstiens....he said he was blocked by Ral315 and Makemi for using sockpuppets and lying. He's in Michigan. I can page him. Would you like that? Do you have something you want to say? I was advised that ForestH2 was Sugarpine; so I was confused for a momment who Forest was. I wasn't supposed to say that he was my brother on my userpage was I? That would have gotten me blocked in minutes...Aquafish talk 22:47, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

And it's just an amazing occurance that you have recently head over to the same userpage (for someone connected to the signpost - a project that your brother has multiple Socks trying to get their teeth into) as at least four of your "brothers" accounts (Sugarpine, Treebark,Carmelapple and the ForrestH2 account itself) ? --Charlesknight 22:55, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I am allowed to edit Kpjas's talk page. I had just learned POV and was ready to show off my skills of the rules there as that was obviously POV. Aquafish talk 23:00, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I also would like to note, to any admin looking to unblock, that his user account was created just 13 minutes after ForestH2 was blocked. (Other diffs were presented much more eloquently by Flcelloguy above.) Ral315 (talk) 22:32, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

An Easy solution presents itself - let's just take the man at his word - If I contribute to the same articles Forest did, block me indef. - well there you go. --Charlesknight 22:43, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Didn't one of his socks also edit Bummer Vacation? Besides, Merope asked me to remove the category so go talk it up with him. Aquafish talk 22:50, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I am self admitting this: VanM is indeed a sockpuppet of ForestH2 according to a list Forest keeps; and Foxearth is one too. I suggest you block them. Any user who sees this should report it to WP:AIV saying "his brother said so" Aquafish talk 23:07, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

The first follows the pattern, the second seems to an attempt to get (what appears) to be - an editor in good standing banning (well what would you know - Forrest's socks fell out with the guy). Well I'm off to bed I think. --Charlesknight 23:13, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean well what would you know? If it is what I think it's your not AGF or it's not WP:CIVIL. Report both to WP:AIV or WP:ANI. Aquafish talk 23:14, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Let me clarify for any admin considering an unblock - VanM does fit the pattern of Forrest socks but it's a basically inactive one, so I guess that's offered up as a chip to say "what a good boy I am". The second one Foxearth has a pattern of interaction that is similar to many who have interacted with Forrest or his socks. That is to say Forrest makes first contact and then one of his socks turns up to support something that forresth2 has said or to commit vandalism. I see nothing here but an attempt by Forrest to settle a grudge because he thinks the game is up with this sock. It's just more cynical gameplaying from forresth2. --Charlesknight 09:57, 9 October 2006 (UTC)