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Merge from 1883 season article

I've already merged the text content and sources from 1883 Carleton Knights football team. The infoboxes do not need to be moved. - Mnnlaxer | talk | stalk 02:46, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Number of conference championships

I think the statement in the lead is justified: "The program was started in 1883 and was very successful through the early 1960s, winning over 20 conference championships from 1895 to 1956."

There is no doubt that Carleton won 1 MIAC championship (1924) and 9 MWC championships from 1923 to 1956. So that's 10. There are also these citations for "over 20 conference championships" when you extend back to 1895. "1905 - The Carleton football team wins the first of 10 championships in the next 13 seasons." "Timeline: 1892-1916". Carleton College.

And there is this on page 108, "Since 1895 and including the present year [1915], Carleton has had twelve championships and has tied twice for the championship." And on page 112 says "The conference rules of the Minnesota-Dakota Conference, of which Carleton is a member..." Hill, Fred B. (December 2015). "A Review of Carleton's Athletic Record". The Alumni Magazine. VI (3). Carleton College Alumni Association: 108–113. - Mnnlaxer | talk | stalk 05:38, 6 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Parked sources

1954 Football Season Recap - Carleton's Last Undefeated Football Team
Joseph Markley Joseph Markely
Source for Minnesota Collegiate Athletic Conference forming in 1913, concurrant to Minnesota-Dakota Conference.
Another source for Minnesota-Dakota conference. South Dakota schools wanted to withdraw in 1917 and form their own conference.

Redlink coaches sources

Warren Beson

Interesting fact: Walter Hass, Warren Beson, and Dale Quist all coached in the same MN HS all-star game in 1956, the year between Hass' and Beson's tenures. page 15

Dale Quist

1992 season text

Here's the current text:

The Knights went 8–1 in the MIAC and were crowned conference champions in 1992.^[1] It was Carleton's first conference championship since 1956 in the Midwest Conference. The team was 9–1 overall and was selected to play in the Division III playoffs that year, but lost 20–8 at Central College in the first round.^[2]

I'm struggling to find sources for something more than a list of scores, and I don't want to go game by game just to pad out the content. The Northfield and Minneapolis papers are paywalled, D3football.com only goes back to 1998, and I don't have access to newspaper archive services. Can anybody help me out? - Mnnlaxer | talk | stalk 18:33, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

^ "1992 MIAC Football Standings". MIAC.
^ "1992 playoffs". D3fooball.com.

[1] "1992 MIAC Football Standings". MIAC.

[2] "1992 playoffs". D3fooball.com.

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+The Knights went 8–1 in the MIAC and were crowned conference champions in 1992.<ref>{{cite web|title=1992 MIAC Football Standings |url=http://www.miacathletics.com/sports/fball/1992-93/standings |publisher=MIAC}}</ref> It was Carleton's first conference championship since 1956 in the Midwest Conference. The team was 9–1 overall and was selected to play in the [[1992 NCAA Division III football season#Postseason|Division III playoffs]] that year, but lost 20–8 at {{cfb link|year=1992|team=Central College Dutch|title=Central College}} in the first round.<ref>{{cite web|title=1992 playoffs|url=http://www.d3football.com/playoffs/1992/index|website=D3fooball.com}}</ref>
+I'm struggling to find sources for something more than a list of scores, and I don't want to go game by game just to pad out the content. The Northfield and Minneapolis papers are paywalled, D3football.com only goes back to 1998, and I don't have access to newspaper archive services. Can anybody help me out? -&nbsp;[[User:Mnnlaxer|Mnnlaxer]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[User talk:Mnnlaxer|<span style="font-weight:normal">talk</span>]]&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Mnnlaxer|stalk]] 18:33, 21 November 2017 (UTC)