Talk:Psilocybin mushroom

Psilocybin mushrooms can cause effect such as diherreah, nausea, and vomitting.

Discussion regarding merger

A current discussion regarding a possible merger, or broadening of focus of this article is underway at: Talk:Psilocybin#merger_idea_with_Psilocybin_mushroom

There is as yet no merger tag placed; it is only a discussion. However, even though it is this article that would be merged the discussion is there. If posting a reply here (which seems appropriate to me), please reply also at that discussion for the sake of continuity. - Steve3849 ^talk 21:38, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Map wrong. Magic Mushrooms grow on Vancouver Island(west coast Canada). I know, I used to pick them in fields. OR I know, but still the map is wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.53.157.85 (talk) 04:17, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Rename article to "Psilocybe Mushrooms"

I believe muchrooms have two or three psychoactive chemicals in them, not just psilocybin. I bhelieve psilocin and baeocystin -- at least one of those is psychoactive. So having the article titled "Psilocybin mushrooms" isn't completely accurate if you ask me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.99.0.202 (talk) 16:29, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

The article Psilocybe already exists, and covers the entire psilocybe genus. The introduction to that article states that they are best known for the psychodelic members of the genus, but that most species do not contain psychoactive compounds. The Psilocybin mushrooms page mentions both the compounds psilocybin and psilocin, and specifically discusses the hallucinogenic species of the psilocybe family. I believe the distinction between the two articles is important and valid. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 19:27, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Who?

Does anyone knows who is Carmen Hillier?? 94.24.208.27 (talk) 18:00, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. It was (really) old vandalism. Thanks for catching it. Prolog (talk) 18:32, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

chart

Can someone make that chart at the bottom hidden by default or rework the page so it doesnt mess up the bottom?--Metallurgist (talk) 07:25, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. I hadn't seen that chart before but you're right, it's messing up the layout pretty badly. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 07:40, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 07:43, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

The map

I'm copying here a remark I made a couple weeks ago regarding the map http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Psilocybe-cubensis-range-map.png

"Plants and fungi can't possibly be bounded to political divisions :) According to this, the mushrooms can be found in one half of New Guinea, and not the other? And in most of South America, but not Paraguay?"

Also, I found a similar reliable map (for Psilocybin mushrooms in general, not just cubensis) page 64 of Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World by Paul Stamets, which is referenced here several times by the way (see Notes and References). It doesn't look like this at all...

L'œuf (talk) 12:29, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Least harmful drug according to British experts.

British experts in drug harm put psilocybin mushrooms as the least harmful drugs on their list ( http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2010/11/drugs_cause_most_harm ). Perhaps some information about this could be included in the article?158.39.241.139 (talk) 19:04, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Maybe put this at the part where it says that it's a soft drug if it can be said to support that claim. Otherwise the bit about the ban on the sale of the mushroom coming under criticism should be removed as biased. Superpronker (talk) 16:27, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

New Hopkins study

Not MEDRS, but I just read this in the San Francisco gate. I haven't seen the study itself but it might be worth a look over to see if there's anything we can include. If not, I'm sure with the influx of recent psilocybin trails we'll see a decent metastudy in the next couple years. Anyway, I will try to find the study when I have some free time and I'll bring it up here. N^oformation ^Talk 01:12, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

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Studies suggest Psilocybin Mushroom may help depression

Reported in Guardian links below http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jan/23/magic-mushrooms-psilocybin-depression-drug?

http://www.nature.com/news/psychedelic-chemical-subdues-brain-activity-1.9878

CMP=twt_fd — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnDempseyUK (talk • contribs) 20:31, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

In the article

The article states: "The popularization of entheogens by Wasson, Leary, authors Terence McKenna and Robert Anton Wilson, and others has led to an explosion in the use of hallucinogenic Psilocybe throughout the world."

I wouldn't include McKenna in that list. By the time McKenna became popular, Psilocybin Mushrooms were already well known. I also wouldn't include Wilson. I don't think many people associate Wilson with the mushrooms.

I would include Richard Schultes.

The article states: "Psilocybe were known to the Aztecs as teonanácatl (literally "divine mushroom" - agglutinative form of teó (god, sacred) and nanácatl (mushroom) in Náhuatl)." Why say it means "divine mushroom" when the literal is "God's Flesh"? Somaeye (talk) 01:23, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Wasson & Wasson (1957, MUSHROOMS RUSSIA & HISTORY): in Nahuatl, nácatl means 'flesh.' But nanácatl is the suffix of teonanácatl, and means 'mushroom.' In Nahuatl, nouns are pluralized by doubling of first syllable. Nanácatl is derived nácatl in form, but not meaning - it doesn't denote 'fleshes' (flesh being a noncount noun ). The 'Flesh of the Gods' translation seems to come from idiomatic misinterpretation, and dates back to Conquest. It persists, but teonanácatl specifies mushroom - 'teo' meaning: of or pertaining to god[s], deity - i.e. divine, sacred or 'wondrous' (Wasson came to prefer the latter). Alas, a drop in the bucket - this entry appears to contain lots of misinfo. Prolly beyond correction in the milieu of pop discussion and interest - under wiki edit policy/practice ... for better or worse.

Terence McKenna and his brother Dennis were the first people to come up with a reliable method for cultivating psilocybin mushrooms at home and in 1976 published details in a book entitled Psilocybin: Magic Mushroom Grower's Guide - see Terence_mckenna#Psilocybin_mushroom_cultivation. So I think that alone should justify McKenna's inclusion. I would also include Richard Schultes. Screamliner (talk) 12:27, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Not to mention the countless talks that McKenna gave throughout the late 60s and 70s. Danwiggy (talk) 06:08, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Map

Why is there a map on here showing just one species of magic mushrooms and most of all, why is it in the History section? I don't see why this particular species has it's own map considering article says there's 190 different species and there's nothing to show whether magic mushrooms in general grow all around the world or not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.109.250.211 (talk) 09:34, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

I removed the map (Psilocybe-cubensis-range-map.png). It is misleading because species of psilocybin mushrooms grow all over the world.Tova Hella (talk) 09:05, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

The Image of Psilocybin in the "Effects" Section of the article is wrong

Hey guys, just though I'd bring to your attention that the image on this page that shows the molecule Psilocybin is incorrect. The Nitrogen atom coming off the ethyl group should also be bonded to a hydrogen atom and display a positive charge, as Psilocybin is a zwitterion. Anyways, I'm too lazy to change it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.18.19.65 (talk) 06:59, 9 January 2014‎ (UTC)

Fixed. I replaced the image with the one from the Psilocybin article. DMacks (talk) 07:47, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

"Stoned Ape Theory"

In the "Early History" section the passage about this Stoned Ape Theory seems extremely poorly sourced and written. The sources currently labelled 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 lead to either youtube videos or extremely nonacademic sites dedicated to drug discussion. The article also makes Terrence McKenna and Graham Hancock sound like respected academics when both come across as pseudoscientists to me. Unless someone can find reasonable sources for the information here I feel the passage should be deleted.

Medical physicist (talk) 19:15, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

The 'stoned ape' section in the McKenna article is very well sourced, so perhaps an interested editor could draw from there. Screamliner (talk) 12:21, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

McKenna's beliefs on this matter have no acceptance in the scientific community, and do not belong on this article. 74.193.67.92 (talk) 23:28, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Legality

This section is lacking the rest of the world. What about Japan's quasi-legal perspective? Danwiggy (talk) 05:43, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Mushroom Cults of Mexico

I find it surprising that Maria Sabina only gets one sentence. She does have her own entry, but her role as a curandera was substantially important in her community. Perhaps mention her occupation as a curandera/shaman? Danwiggy (talk) 06:15, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

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Is muscarine a psilocybin ancestor?

IMHO it's not, which makes the following sentence completely useless: "Present in varying concentrations in about 200 species of Basidiomycota mushrooms, psilocybin evolved from its ancestor, muscarine, some 10 to 20 million years ago.[17]". --Diogenes2000 (talk) 14:58, 1 December 2017 (UTC)