Talk:Dane Cook

Cleanup Needed

This article needs a cleanup. Some of the history sections are almost unreadable due to density and unorganization, and the content is scattered. I will work on it as much as I can, but some help would be appreciated. Furthermore, a new article about his HBO special,, Dane Cook's Vicious Circle has been created by myself, but it needs a LOT of work, if anyone is willing to help. -- Ubergenius 15:01, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Hiya, I saw the new article on a maintenance sweep, but I've changed it to a redirect for now, since I'm not convinced that it meets the standard for an individual article. My recommendation is that you maintain the info on the special in a separate section on the Dane Cook article for now, and concentrate on accumulating verifiable references, per Wikipedia's Verifiability policy. If the section grows too large, then it'll be easy enough to split it back out to a separate article later. --Elonka 21:35, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Devout Catholic? No

This was in the article:

According to his last HBO Comedy special, an hour and a half long presentation, he has become a devout Catholic, despite previous bits he has done that mock the Catholic Church. A part of the show was dedicated to talking about what Jesus has done for him in his life and how much he loves Christ. The effect it has had on his fan base is still unclear.

This is not true at all. Not only have I watched the video of the HBO special once, but the audio 3 seperate occasions, and no where is this said. He DOES tell a story of a guy who makes fun of him for his catholic beliefs in an argument over Cook saying "God bless you" when he sneezed and the man returning with "I'm an atheist". This skit lasted for, at most, 10 minutes, ending with Cook hoping that when he dies, his body becomes a tree, then chopped down, ground into paper, and the bible printed on him. No where was there a mention of discussing his religion and the things Jesus has done for him. Being a Christian, I would be happy if he did, as it would be good if one of my favorite comics was a Christian also, but he most certainly did not make the statements mentioned above in this HBO special. Ubergenius 14:21, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

I concur with Ubergenius. I've watched the special several times and there isn't one instance that he talks "about what Jesus has done for him in his life and how much he loves Christ." The joke is funny, but that's not what it's about.--Jude 05:34, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

8 Guys

a couple of days ago I posted anonymously and added that dane wrote, directed, and starred in 8 Guys. he definitely did, it's on his website even. Someone deleted it, however. I'm gonna put it back, if anyone deletes it, that's not cool. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Eagleboy978 (talk • contribs)03:41, 20 July 2006.

Famous Relatives

Is Dane Cook the son of "This American Life" producer Diane Cook?67.116.70.107 18:06, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

no, his mother's name is Donna, she just recently passed away.--Jude 10:57, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

POV movie

Although the scene is brief, Cook makes the character all his own and even sings his character's theme song, "Waffle Man!", a bit pov?-~~``~or whatever does the name thing

Changed. Williamnilly 05:27, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

MSG

Changed "Madison Square Garden" to "Madison Square Garden's Nokia Theater" because Cook did not perform in the stadium. Nokia Theater is a smaller room within the MSG venue, but saying he sold out Madison Sqaure Garden gives the impression that he was playing the same room that Bruce Springsteen plays when he sells out MSG.

Changed. Williamnilly 05:27, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

I have heard reference in a few places to this aswell, that he sold out the Nokia Theater, which IS a very different thing then selling out what people usually think of when they hear madison square garden. Can anyone find a source to confirm that he performed at the stadium or the nokia theater? I think this would be an important distinction to make. Riphal 03:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC) Riphal

I was the original poster of this topic and I was at one of the Dane Cook MSG shows. The show did take place in the Nokia theater.

Pop culture references

I'm going to argue that using pop culture references in a standup act is not a "hallmark," since it's nearly impossible to find a comic who doesn't do exactly that. The inclusion of this unhelpful section gives this page an air of vanity, so I'm excising it. R 11:15, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

• He makes references that very few do. For example, when he told the Walgreen story, he did in reverse, in reference to Quentin Tarantino. He also incorporates jokes from previous CDs.

Criticisms

Should some mention be made of the accusations that have been lodged against Cook? Namely, that he has "lifted" a certain amount of material from comedian Louis CK and potentially others as well? --Dante Alighieri | Talk 23:08, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I'd say sure, provided its stated who is generally making the allegations, that examples/proof is given, and its stated in a NPOV (rather than accusatory). Williamnilly 23:44, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I know where such evidence is posted, and I'm going to link to it, and I will try hard to keep the tone neutral.--Priceyeah 06:53, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

So where are you on finding this source? It's almost June! Please find it soon, Google is a bitch for me to use...168.103.56.133 00:48, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

EDIT: Okay, I found this on the Louis CK forum: Louis CK in an (edited) post merely says "fuck it. who cares?". The forum thread can be found here (screenname is 'louisck', second reply). Off topic: I don't think Dane Cook is funny...at all.168.103.56.133 00:53, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I removed the accusation until we can see proof of this. A source should be cited in which we can actually view the accusations. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Weters (talk • contribs) 13:17, February 1, 2006.

I was suprised when I came to this article and found nothing at all on the whole Louis CK ordeal. I would really like to see some put in because it is very notable. PrettyMuchBryce 19:32, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

here's proof: http://www.redban.com/blogy/?p=51 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Benbenbenben (talk • contribs) 04:03, 30 July 2006.

I revised the line including Joe Rogan and cited a forum post by himself saying Cook has taken his material. --72.155.207.174 08:58, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

the entire critisism section seems to be written with a severe bias,especially where it states he appeals to pubescent girls and his comedy turns off "intelligent fans"

The dude is just NOT funny. What's the deal with him?

I agree, Dane Cook is a complete douche bag.

Myspace's Tom Anderson quote

Is this true? Does Tom have a beef with Cook over something Cook said or something? I was skeptical, but there's the link .... BabuBhatt 22:54, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it's true. Someone has deleted the proof but hopefully it resurfaces soon.

I'm placing the link here in hopes someone can determine its authenticity: [1] BabuBhatt 22:51, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

BAMF

Could we get an editorial clarification on the BAMF reference? It doesn't make any sense. "BAMF, made by Dane Cook as a replacement for BAMF" or similar. Wtf does that mean?--Htmlism 18:06, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

      BAMF stands for Bad Ass Mother Fucker put that

He did NOT coin this phrase.

Neutrality of Accusation

The last section's last sentence said that the material was clearly stolen, though the writer had said that this is what Louis CK thought. I changed the sentence structure to show that this is not a fact not endorsed by Wikipedia, but is merely what Louis CK thinks.

Yuk Yuk incident

This should probably be discussed: http://i7.tinypic.com/2119laq.jpg —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Benbenbenben (talk • contribs) 04:03, 30 July 2006.

I added it in as a short line—The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:72.155.207.174 (talk • contribs) 08:58, 7 August 2006.

The article makes this incident seem as though Cook was clearly in the wrong, but according to the article that is cited, the owner of the club sided with Cook, saying the manager was wrong to try and cut his act short. I will modify the article to note this. -- Ubergenius 14:33, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

su fi

what is it ?

Who created the super finger? -- it says that it was NOT created by Dane Cook but when i look else where (such as answers.com) it says that the super finger was CREATED by him. Does anyone have a source for the person who really created the super finger.

Material Controversy

I removed the following paragraph from this section:

Another example of possibly plagiarized material is Cook's reference to the Department of Motor Vehicles as "Satan's asshole." This line is largely the same as a line used by comedian Bill Hicks in a 1992 performance (released in 2005 as the CD Salvation : Oxford November 11, 1992). During the performance, Hicks refers to Los Angeles as "Satan's shithole."

The use of Satan and a reference to the anus is hardly innovative. If both people had mentioned DMV, perhaps this could pass. As it is, the fact that one man does not like the DMV and the other does not like Los Angeles and both refer to it as a terrible place is not in any way "plagiarized material."

I also removed this paragraph:

Comedian Joe Rogan too has claimed Dane Cook has taken his material [2]. He has also listed Cook as one of the comedians he feels is a "hack" and a "thief." The list includes Carlos Mencia and Robin Williams.

For this to return, the last sentence must be removed (it has nothing to do with Dane Cook) and the information from the link must be worked into the text. Right now it is just a link to a story, not information in an article. - Kuzain 00:20, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

I do believe the line about Joe Rogan should be put back in. It is not bias and it is a direct quote from Joe Rogan. But I will let you guys deal with it.

Double Jointed?

I've edited out the entry:

"Cook is considered to be double-jointed."

Under "The Super Finger" entry. I couldn't find anything via google search to back this up, nor is it really relevant to "The Super Finger" since people that aren't double jointed (like myself) can also do the hand gesture.

Liqker 09:57, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Age?

The bio has too different birth dates (years) listed for him. 1972 & 1976. Which is correct?

This is a PR piece

"After the release of his immensely successful CD"... LOL. That's ridiculously commercial. This is PR fluff... how many encyclopedias allege romantic affairs with people like jessica simpson? Argh. This is such a b.s. entry. pathetic.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Aethlos (talk • contribs)21:08, 19 Sept 2006.

Thank you for the constructive criticism. Now we really know how to make the article better. Please sign your critiques next time.Williamnilly 03:58, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

What the hell is up with this?

I don't think any of this is accurate. First of all, this guys birth date is listed as being 1962, this would make him 44 years old. Second, the years given later in the article are 10-15 years IN THE FUTURE!!!! WHAT THE HELL!?!?

IMBD says he's born in 72, making him 34. http://imdb.com/name/nm0176981/

lol internet movie basedata? :)

--64.26.117.250 11:56, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Material controversy

This section must be verified with reliable sources before it is returned to the article. FloNight 16:59, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I returned it, with one source. The linked source has audio of some of Louis CK plagiarism, which is all from Louis CK's 2001 CD. The audio from Dane Cook is all from a 2003 act. Louis has also talked about this on a few radio shows, but audio and radio are hard to source. Louis CK also had an article on his website, but took it down. However, he talks about it briefly at a stand-up comedy forum here (Yes, it's really him and not someone posing as him). Second, if anyone can help find a source, one of the jokes that Joe Rogan claims that Dane Cook stole from him was about tigers mating. Dane Cook's joke is about hippos mating.--Trypsin 12:13, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

You need a reliable source that comments on this controversy; linking two similar things and saying "See, see, they're the same!" is not sufficient. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 13:19, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

How is it now? There's a newspaper source now that reports the controversy and Dane's response. If you want to cut it down or change the language, that's fine, but I don't think it warrants removal of the entire section.--Trypsin 13:36, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

It's fine now. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 14:01, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Lower than vandalism

"His loquacious trickery redefines common human experiences into a "unique" slang vocabulary." Is this a joke? Ninety percent of Cook's fanbase don't know what loquacious means. And is "found art" referring to the Louis C.K. incidents? Someone needs to delete this entire article and re-write it.--Hypermagic 21:51, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I altered that paragraph slightly. It's actually a direct quote from a Salon.com review, and it seems a bit biased. I agree that the article needs an overhaul, if only because it's not current. For example, the HBO special and Tourgasm, along with his film are all talked about in the future tense.--Trypsin 02:57, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

A:F6

I do not think that when you search for A:F6, that you are redirected to this page. It is true that on October 14, 2006, he had made a joke about some dude on UTube that sang A:F6, but in no way does it show the relevance of A:F6 to Dane Cook. I think an article should be started about A:F6. However, I do not have enough information to start one; all that I know is that A:F6 is some random person that had a piece of paper with A:F6 on it and kept singing it for ten minutes.

  Thank you.