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Ship v. Boat

A ship is, generally, larger than a boat. Is this a controversial claim? Cruise ships, cargo ships, and military combat ships are all large (and ships), while kayaks, canoes, and yachts are considered boats and are significantly smaller. Power~enwiki (talk) 04:21, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a controversial claim, although what once was considered a ship might now be considered a boat. Additionally, the largest submarine is still considered a boat. The ship, USS Cole was carried aboard another ship, MV Blue Marlin after being damaged by bombing, still consistent with the maxim "a ship can carry a boat, but a boat cannot carry a ship". User:HopsonRoad 12:11, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yanacochito (talk) 11:17, 26 December 2017 (UTC)== Navy sizes. ==[reply]

The comparison of navies by number of ships in the lead is...let's say sub-optimal. The US listing includes major combatant ships, large auxiliaries; the North Korean includes stuff all the way down to landing craft and very small patrol vessels, many of which blue-water navies would classify as boats. It also ignores the fact that Coast Guard and other assets are very rapidly able to be taken over by the USN - the USCG alone has about 1,500 vessels which the KPN would consider "surface vessels". Guns or tons might make a realistic comparison, but calling an LCM by the same name as a cruiser is nonsense. Anmccaff (talk) 05:00, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. The article is about ships; discussion of which navy has the most "surface vessels" is not relevant. Even if it were relevant, it does not belong in the lead. Yanacochito (talk) 11:17, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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 :It's not a controversial claim, although what once was considered a ship might now be considered a boat. Additionally, the largest submarine is still considered a boat. The ship, [[USS Cole (DDG-67)|''USS Cole'']] was carried aboard another ship, ''[[MV Blue Marlin]]'' after being damaged by bombing, still consistent with the maxim "a ship can carry a boat, but a boat cannot carry a ship". [[User:HopsonRoad]] 12:11, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
+[[User:Yanacochito|Yanacochito]] ([[User talk:Yanacochito|talk]]) 11:17, 26 December 2017 (UTC)== Navy sizes. ==
-== Navy sizes. ==
 The comparison of navies by number of ships in the lead is...let's say sub-optimal.  The US listing includes major combatant ships, large auxiliaries; the North Korean includes stuff all the way down to landing craft and very small patrol vessels, many of which blue-water navies would classify as boats. It also ignores the fact that Coast Guard and other assets are very rapidly able to be taken over by the USN - the USCG alone has about 1,500 vessels which the KPN would consider "surface vessels".  Guns or tons might make a realistic comparison, but calling an [[LCM]] by the same name as a cruiser is nonsense.  [[User:Anmccaff|Anmccaff]] ([[User talk:Anmccaff|talk]]) 05:00, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
+I agree.  The article is about ships; discussion of which navy has the most "surface vessels" is not relevant.  Even if it were relevant, it does not belong in the lead. [[User:Yanacochito|Yanacochito]] ([[User talk:Yanacochito|talk]]) 11:17, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
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