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Continued Vandalism to Signature/Finisher moves list
Melina has been cited by Bret Hart and WWE for her very expansive signature move list. (See: http://www.wwe.com/inside/top25/impactfulwomen/page-13) It's something she is very well known for in her WWE career. But every time her real signature moves are added, someone removes it and puts up the schoolgirl roll up, camel clutch, and a lariat. There's no mention of the Matrix move. No mention of the spinning facebuster (a variant of her Extreme Makeover). No mention of her diving seated senton. No mention of running Yakuza kick dropped into the splits. No mention of her tilt-a-whirl facebuster.
It's absurd.
I've fixed the move list now (for now), but I know the vandal will be back again to change it to back to the schoolgirl roll up, camel clutch, and lariat.
If Wikipedia is going to be respected, people are going to need to have respect for real information and stop omitting information either out of bias or ignorance. If it's out of bias, please get over it. If it's out of ignorance, please refrain from editing the pages of wrestlers about which you know nothing. Historicalemperor (talk) 09:17, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
- There is no vandalism. Moves need reliable sources. The moves you put, haven't. A youtube video isn't a reliable source. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 13:30, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
This is a perfect example of why Wikipedia isn't taken seriously. Absurd editorial policies are given more respect than common sense. So fan-made videos that actually show Melina repeatedly PERFORMING THE MOVES in question are not considered "reliable sources" on signature moves. However, old websites that haven't been updated in YEARS (some of which got their information from Wikipedia years ago) and an old blog that simply notes that Melina performed a roll up in a match ARE reliable sources on signature moves. Which wrestler doesn't use a roll up occasionally? Since when is this considered a "signature move"?
Also, the majority of the footnotes in that signature move list don't work. But, of course, fake or broken footnotes from old websites with outdated information are "reliable sources," but actually working footnotes linking to videos that show the moves actually being performed by Melina are unreliable. So because of this ridiculous reasoning, we have to pretend as though the last 4 years of Melina's wrestling career never happened when they're online for everyone to see.
To compromise, I would suggest sticking with a list of Melina's genuine, updated signature moves, and removing the YouTube videos and finding other sources for the information, but I doubt the removal of her genuine moves are in good faith. There's obviously an agenda at play here. You can keep the signature move list supported by "reliable sources" like broken/fake footnotes and outdated blogs. Keep silencing people trying to make Wikipedia better. You win. Enjoy. I'm out of here. -- Historicalemperor (talk) 05:03, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
- the youtube video recopilations arent serious. As a newspapper, you cant use blogs o youtube as sources because arent serious. If you want to help wikipedia with our "evel" sources, youre welcome. Until that, your editions are vandalism.--HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:46, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
- A fan made video isn't reliable. Who made the video? why does the video is right? I can make a blog where I say "Melina uses the Tombstone". Reliable? No. The sources are show results from reliable sources, newspapers and reliable websites like OWOW, PWTorch or PWInsider. In the show resulst, we can see Melina used the move. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 12:19, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Done. I've even added multiple references for some moves. Let's see what other excuses are used to remove her legitimate signature moves. I'm sure people will come up with something... -- Historicalemperor (talk) 05:27, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Melina Perez
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Melina Perez's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Cage":- From Jon Heidenreich: "Cagematch profile".
- From Melissa Coates: "Cagematch profile".
- From Chris Jericho: "Cagematch profile".
- From Super Crazy: "Cagematch profile".
- From Eric Young (wrestler): "Cagematch profile".
- From Lisa Marie Varon: "Cagematch profile". Cagematch. Retrieved 2009-10-02.
- From Frankie Kazarian: "Cagematch profile". Cagematch. Retrieved 2010-02-19.
- From Joy Giovanni: "Cagematch profile".
- From Bonnie Maxon: "Cagematch profile". Cagematch. Retrieved 2010-01-07.
- From Carly Colón: "Cagematch profile". [unreliable source]
- From Chyna: "Cagematch profile".
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 10:47, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
Duplicate info on modeling career
The second piece in her main bio and the "Modeling Career" section opener are exactly the same sentence except for one word, including using the same unreliable link. It's redundant, one of the two sections should be pruned. Any opinions as to which should go? Wanted to ask before removing.JamesG5 (talk) 15:50, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
- I'd say the first mentioning (in the lead) should go. Nikki♥311 19:35, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
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