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*'''Strong support''' it obviously isn't the only National Premier League [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22national+premier+league%22+-jamaica&tbm=nws&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjs-JHhmqPYAhVCAsAKHbHWCpoQ_AUICigB&biw=1306&bih=870&dpr=1 as 21,400 recent GNews hits -Jamaica demonstrate]. Wikipedia is not reality, we need to look at the real world. But in this case [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?search=%22National+Premier+League%22+-jamaica&title=Special:Search&go=Go&searchToken=dehu7pbunpuaj6lpid841gs7g even in Wikipedia reality it isn't the only one] [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 17:52, 24 December 2017 (UTC) |
*'''Strong support''' it obviously isn't the only National Premier League [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22national+premier+league%22+-jamaica&tbm=nws&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjs-JHhmqPYAhVCAsAKHbHWCpoQ_AUICigB&biw=1306&bih=870&dpr=1 as 21,400 recent GNews hits -Jamaica demonstrate]. Wikipedia is not reality, we need to look at the real world. But in this case [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?search=%22National+Premier+League%22+-jamaica&title=Special:Search&go=Go&searchToken=dehu7pbunpuaj6lpid841gs7g even in Wikipedia reality it isn't the only one] [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 17:52, 24 December 2017 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' - [https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=National+Premier+League&oq=National+Premier+League&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Results on Google] would appear to suggest the Australian premier league and UK premier league are both the primary topics here however to keep things simple I agree with nom the Jamaican one clearly isn't pt. –[[User:Davey2010|<span style="color:#147A44;">'''Davey'''</span><span style="color:#C4061C;">'''2010'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Davey2010|<span style="color:#147A44;">Merry Xmas</span> / <span style="color:#C4061C;">Happy New Year</span>]]</sup> 21:45, 31 December 2017 (UTC) |
*'''Support''' - [https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=National+Premier+League&oq=National+Premier+League&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Results on Google] would appear to suggest the Australian premier league and UK premier league are both the primary topics here however to keep things simple I agree with nom the Jamaican one clearly isn't pt. –[[User:Davey2010|<span style="color:#147A44;">'''Davey'''</span><span style="color:#C4061C;">'''2010'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Davey2010|<span style="color:#147A44;">Merry Xmas</span> / <span style="color:#C4061C;">Happy New Year</span>]]</sup> 21:45, 31 December 2017 (UTC) |
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::Neither of those leagues share the same title. The UK one is either called Priemier Legaue or English Premier League and while similar the Australian one is Nation Premier Leagues not National Premier League (note the s at the end).--[[Special:Contributions/64.229.165.48|64.229.165.48]] ([[User talk:64.229.165.48|talk]]) 03:22, 1 January 2018 (UTC) |
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Generic Title?
Should this not be moved to Jamaica National Premier League? It seems a very generic title and pretty much all of the other CONCACAF leagues indicate either the nation or the national governing body in their title. Fenix down (talk) 10:25, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Fenix down: see requested move, below. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:14, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
Requested move 24 December 2017
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National Premier League → National Premier League (Jamaica) – This is a generic title which could refer to any of more than 50 leagues listed in Premier League (disambiguation). This Jamaican competition is nowhere near being the WP:primary topic.
The current title National Premier League should redirect to Premier League (disambiguation). BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:11, 24 December 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Mahveotm (talk) 06:59, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose - The current title fully satisfies WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CRITERIA, and WP:DAB (no need to disambiguate). No other league appears to exist with this actual title in English, and there's no valid reason to force readers looking for this specific article to the DAB page. Anyone looking for another league would have to go to the DAB page anyway, and the hatnote takes care of that. Note that National Premier Leagues (plural name) also exists at that title, not at National Premier Leagues (Australia), as determined at Talk:National Premier Leagues#Requested move, which also verified this title for the Jamaican league. - BilCat (talk) 02:02, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- Comments - The above Oppose is based on "National Premier League" actually being the official name of the league. None of the working sources use that name, but use Red Stripe Premier League instead. There appears to be an exception to the common name title guideline for sponsored league titles, as these often change every few years. - BilCat (talk) 02:24, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, sponsored names are avoided where possible for football-related articles for the reason you mention. Number 57 13:43, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose per Bilcat; it's the only National Premier League. Number 57 13:42, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- Strong support it obviously isn't the only National Premier League as 21,400 recent GNews hits -Jamaica demonstrate. Wikipedia is not reality, we need to look at the real world. But in this case even in Wikipedia reality it isn't the only one In ictu oculi (talk) 17:52, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- Support - Results on Google would appear to suggest the Australian premier league and UK premier league are both the primary topics here however to keep things simple I agree with nom the Jamaican one clearly isn't pt. –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 21:45, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
- Neither of those leagues share the same title. The UK one is either called Priemier Legaue or English Premier League and while similar the Australian one is Nation Premier Leagues not National Premier League (note the s at the end).--64.229.165.48 (talk) 03:22, 1 January 2018 (UTC)