Talk:Leeds United F.C.

EUROPEAN CUP ERROR

Please fix this error: it says 1974-55 under European Cup. Thanks.

96.4.101.161 (talk)

Club Suffix

Are they correctly Leeds United F.C. or (as it says on the outside of Elland Road) Leeds United A.F.C.?--L.E./12.144.5.2/le@put.com

UEFA say AFC as well, and it gets a fair proportion of Google hits. sjorford 10:15, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

LEEDS UNITED NOW SOLD TO LUST CHAIRMAN GARY COOPER — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.33.213.34 (talk) 11:20, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

I do trust UEFA, but I think it's worth noting that the official site displays the club crest inscribed LUFC. However, there is an alternative Leeds United AFC crest which I have found here
SimonMayer 10:50, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

"Leeds United FC" the "A" was taken out when Gerald Krasner took over. Dee4leeds 12:36, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Do you have a reference?--Vindicta 22:20, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

The A in AFC was NOT removed when Krasner's lot took over, It came away from the badge when it changed to the shield back in 1998 (Ridsdale's Term) as they wanted it to use the 70's LUFC style in a new badge. The club has always and will always be an Association Football Club whether they choose to put it in the badge or not. As you can see here, between 1979 and 2000 the badge had AFC on (Krasner took over in 2003/4) and between 1960 and 1971 there was no wording whatsoever on the badge. The Original badge states "Leeds United A.F.C." below the original club crest. UEFA and the stadium are correct, Leeds ARE an AFC whether they choose to use the A in their badge is surely up to them. --Chappy84 22:43, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Well I was going to comment on this, but I like to do a bit of research before diving in with both feet, and I am suprised to find that yes they are AFC as this page on the Football Association's site confirms. Jooler 17:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I little revival then: Is it "AFC" (as on the old club crest) or "A.F.C." (as used in the article name)? --Hestemand 21:05, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

AFC or A.F.C. is simply a case of correct abbreviation, technically it should be A.F.C. but the norm nowadays seems be not to use the full stops in abbreviations, it should still however contain the full stops. Chappy ^T_C 17:38, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

"Leeds United AFC" is still in Liquidation according to the Companies House website. The current team is "Leeds United FC". Legally that means that "Leeds United FC" is not liable for the debts of "Leeds United AFC".

The O'Leary Period - "Living the Dream"

There seems to be a lot of non-NPOV in here which needs eliminating. Bornintheguz 18:25, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC) i think its okay

It was a turbulent period with the court case and the murders. I believe it's relative to this day and era, which should be fine.--Vindicta 00:39, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Why is the subtitle now "The O'Leary Period: Nearly Men"? Should it not be "Living the Dream"? Discussions? --Vindicta 23:12, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

• It's clear from this talk page there was no discussion about it, so I'll change it back --Tim 15:36, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

O'Leary Living the Dream

The chronology is out of order and needs editing. Reference is made to the UEFA semi-final campaign, then the Champions League campaign, then in a later paragraph returns to the UEFA semi-final campaign.

Andrew Johnson (Scottish footballer)

To my knowledge there is no player at Leeds by the name. And even on the off chance there is a new youth academy member of that name the info on that page: "He dropped his surname in favour of 'Johnson' when he learned of his father's evil ways of murdering innocent Iraqi civilians", "He is nicknamed "The Mole" because he has a large growth on the side of his face" is probably wrong :)

Mark Judge

Someone's added Mark Judge as a notable Leeds player. I've never heard of him, and can't find a mention on google. Can someone confirm if this is real or not, and revert if not? Thanks

Never heard of him, i think delete him

External links

Simply, this article is not a link directory or a place to advertise fansites and forums - see WP:NOT, When to link externally and WP:EL.

This is particularly pertinent here, as the content of forums and fansites is almost by definition unencyclopaedic - it is unsourced, unvetted, uncited and by nature non-neutral.

Instead, I have linked to the dmoz.org page on Leeds United - this is an open directory of weblinks which contains most of the sites previously listed. This way the sites are still only two clicks away, but we are not claiming to use the sites as sources, nor are we providing free advertising.

Aquilina 18:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

For inclusion

If this article heads towards FA status one day, they might want to include this - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/leeds_united/5332286.stm source as to players being paid after leaving the club. HornetMike 20:03, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

This page is infact included as a note in the article in reference to the diminishing debt of the club. Chappy84 11:16, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Jon Newsome

Hi - a while ago I created an article for Jon Newsome. Do any LUFC Wikipedians have any info about his early career at Leeds that they could add to it? If so, feel free.....thanks! User:Demonicanglian 19:57, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS to move page, per discussion below. I also went ahead and moved the Sunderland and Workington articles to "AFC" titles. -GTBacchus^(talk) 01:44, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

Leeds United AFC → Leeds United A.F.C. – I have no opinion on this move, but I found it at WP:RM without any discussion indicating what to do, so I've relisted it, and I'm setting up this discussion to obtain some consensus. -GTBacchus^(talk) 02:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Survey

Add "* Support" or "* Oppose" followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~

Discussion

Add any additional comments

I would like to note that this article was moved from the "A.F.C." title in August, but it was a copy/paste move. I've gone ahead and merged the histories, keeping the entire GFDL history at this location. If it's decided that this page needs to move again, please do so with administrative assistance, so we can avoid the problems associated with copy/paste moves. Cheers. -GTBacchus^(talk) 02:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm afraid if you look in to the depths of the archives on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football the subject of whether it should be A.F.C. / F.C. or AFC/FC for all clubs was addressed and a consensus was to use AFC / FC . See Here for its most recent mention. --Chappy84 09:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Look at Sunderland A.F.C. and Workington A.F.C. and others. Dots are used. Everton 10:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I know dots are used, the wikiproject are talking about creating a bot to move all of the pages across to the versions without dots. The version without dots is the general consensus that the wikiproject came to, they will all eventually be moved I presume, they just haven't yet, as I said, look through the archives of the wikiproject talk. --Chappy84 11:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

A note on British English

British English should be used for articles on Britain related topics. Likewise, American English should be used on articles pertaining to American topics. For a clearer example, please visit this sub-section on the differences between their usage. --Siva1979^{Talk to me} 03:12, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Tidy up/revision

No disrespect to anyone, but there are several grammatical errors+typos on the page. In addition, certain areas e.g. the Clough-Armfield-Adamson-Clarke eras need expanding in the History.

I've tried adding/revising, but my changes are being rolled back. Is there a forum where you have to agree/approve changes? Coopuk 17:21, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Rivalries

Describing Sheffield Wednesday and United and Barnsley as West Riding of Yorkshire Derbies is entirely wrong, they are South Yorkshire clubs. NQuin 09:57, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Please check the history of Yorkshire, before the parliament act in 1974 that created Humberside and South Yorkshire, Yorkshire had three ridings, these being North, East and West. This is the reason they are traditional West Riding of Yorkshire rivalries. Chappy84 20:50, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

The original article also mentions that 'some may argue liverpool is now considered the main rival of manchester united' (paraphrased). I would like to point out the City of Manchester Football Club that is more prominently considered the main rival of manchester united and pretty much always has been. There is also a distinction between hated rivalries (such as ManU Liverpool) and significant rivalries (like ManU Chelsea), the difference being that a liverpool fan instinctively hates a Man U fan and all their players and vice versa whereas in the significant rivalry there is respect for the opposition.--Comparingmeerkats (talk) 09:13, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Last rollback

With regards to the last roll-back; I agree that the page should be a brief summary. However, I think you will find that my edited version is shorter and more concise that what you have rolled back to! Can you please justify the rollback? Coopuk 16:40, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

See here, your version is on the left the reverted version on the right. Yours clearly just from a scan, without actually reading, has more info. As I have said before this should be a brief summary and extra info added should be added to Leeds United A.F.C. History. Plus as I said we were knocked out of the Champions league by Valencia who LOST the final to Bayern Munich on penalties, the version before revert had been changed to say we were knocked out by the eventual winners Valencia, which is obviously untrue, see here. Chappy84 22:08, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree entirely with your correction on Bayern Munich; however, the purpose of any summary is to avoid any specific references to players or scorelines, or else we should start putting references to all significant players and finals in the summary. My changes have done that, but you have reverted them entirely. In addition, the previous version was subjctive ("poisonous" - "hated rivals" - "hated Ridsdale") which again was corrected. Finally, the section I did expand was done so to explain the significance of why Leeds had to qualify for the Champions League, something which is not implict in the original article - which assumes that the reader knows the background.

May I point out that I am making the changes here because this is the first page that comes up when anyone searches for "Wikipedia" and "Leeds United". Because of this, it needs to be as generic as possible - hence my concern at you reverting all of the player and score references, as well as the subjective statements.

By all means make corrections where I have made mistakes, but to roll back changes whole scale is not in the spirit of Wikipedia.

Coopuk 22:28, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Ground Ownership

The most recent documents available from the UK Land Registry show Elland Road as having passed into the hands of a British Virgin Islands company Teak Trading Limited. How do we advance discussion of this significant change in ownership?Barbaraville 17:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC) Barbara Ville

Get proof, i.e. an internet link. Chappy84 22:49, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

crest images

The background to the crest images needs to be changed so it's the same colour as the template it's on.

I'd also like to request someone upload an image of there old logo with the white rose Buc 17:05, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Uh Ah Cantona

No mention in the main body of the article about 'Le Eric' (and his problems with the racist fan) and later sale to Man. U? Seems like a big ommision to me.Don Rev up the motor and take me somewhere warm 01:48, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

good example to follow.

Check out the main page for Sheffield Wednesday F.C.. I think we need to moldel this article on it.Buc 21:48, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

deletion

There is absolutely no need to mention the club is well supported by the emo community. Even if the club is well supported by all the jimmy hendrix fans in the world, it would still not make a difference for this page.--Vindicta 21:25, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Stuff added at the bottom about hooliganism

Someone has added an unsourced and badly spelled hatchet job on LUFC supporters at the bottom of the article. Unless someone can come up with some good reasons to keep it I will delete it later today.--Spanker LUFC 15:13, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Page protected

The page has been protected until 4 March, 2007 due to the persistent vandalism from multiple anonymous IP addresses over the last few days. EliminatorJR 22:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Just removed "josh is ace" from start of history section.....blatant vandalism

To those who are watching this page, keep up the good work. Having Leeds essentially go down is bad enough, but to see the wiki page being vandalized by a bunch of losers with nothing better to do makes today very frustrating. Thank you!Wolfp10

"...Jonathan Woodgate whom Ridsdale had promised Venables would not be sold."

I am not native english speaker, but dont you think that this phrase: "...Jonathan Woodgate whom Ridsdale had promised Venables would not be sold." mean that Ridsdale told Woodgate that Venables would not be sold?

nope, it means ridsdale promised venables woodgate would not be sold. Chappy84 15:01, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

It should be: "...Jonathan Woodgate whom Ridsdale promised Venables would not be sold." 82.10.113.81 22:07, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

the word had isn't what confused them. Chappy ^T_C 11:25, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Usage of Leet?

"This season (2006/2007) Leeds fortune has turned for the worst and are likely to go into the last game against Derby County needing points, sadly they will get pwned at Pride Park and Leeds will lose another 10000 fans and have trips to Walsall and Yeovil next season." How is the usage of Leet encyclopaedic? 81.76.111.153 23:52, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

• It's not. First off, you don't spell PWND with an 'e', and second, it should say something about Leeds getting their sorry @#!*% handed to them. Hahaha. Lugnuts 19:10, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay then, it might not be Leet, but the spelling was incorrect, and it was unencyclopaedic.81.79.111.181 12:18, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

They are a small club who think they are big and can't beat the mighty terriers!!

relegation/ administration

It's being reported that Leeds are going into administration and are going to be relegated. 134.226.1.229 15:46, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

When were they relegated? The article says may 5th, but the news that they would get deducted ten points were out on the 4th. Dr bab 11:26, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

They were relegated as soon as the league decided the 10 points would be deducted this season after the club entered administration (both of which happened on the 4th). Chappy84 14:07, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

The Right Honourable The Earl of Harewood

According to the section on Personnel, the club president is "The Right Honourable The Earl of Harewood KBE LLD." But Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)#Honorific prefixes states: "Styles and honorifics which are derived from noble title, including The Most Noble, The Most Honourable, The Right Honourable, and The Honourable, should not be included in the text inline but may be legitimately discussed in the article proper." The most likely alternative for the club president's name would be to call him George Lascelles, 7th Earl of Harewood, which is the title of his article anyway. Any thoughts? Aecis^Brievenbus 23:28, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Introduction

Chappy84: why have you reverted my introduction to this article again? I understand the points you made after my first edit, but cannot see the point of the second reversion? Why is the club's relegation more important than its three titles? I had *both points in my version and propose to restore it unless you or others can give me a good reason why one is more impt than the other? Thanks, bigpad 11:21, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

As my edit summary said, you're adding information already available in the article and intro and legthening a section which doesn't need to be lengthened. Chappy • T • C • 11:28, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but you're not answering my point about the into. being balanced. Leeds' current plight is only part of their story bigpad 11:48, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I am, if you check every club that's just been relegated it states the division they've just been relegated from and where they will be playing next season. See Sheffield United F.C.. The intro states what leeds are most famous for (Revie period) and when they last won the title, hence contains all required by a short intro. Chappy • T • C • 11:57, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

This is where it all gets confusing - not actually in any league at the moment...

The Football League said yesterday it has received further details from the administrator, KPMG, about the sale of Leeds United to a new company, Leeds United 2007 Ltd, owned by the Cayman Islands-registered Forward Sports Fund and chaired by Ken Bates.

The League has so far refused to sign over its "golden share" of membership to this new company, which was not bought via a Company Voluntary Arrangement (CVA) agreement of creditors. In all, 41 other Football League clubs have collapsed into insolvency since the Premier League was formed in 1992, and in every previous case, the League has insisted on a CVA being agreed as a condition of transferring its golden share to the new owners.

Ken Bates is now asking the League to treat his company as an exception. Leeds United is at an impasse, with KPMG having sold the assets to the new company,'' but the League insisting that the players' registrations are still held by the old company until the golden share is transferred to a new owner.

from http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/07/27/leeds_united_the_unanswered_qu.html

So as far as I can work out - the new company owns the name and all the physical assets of the club *but* for the purposes of the FA currently is not permitted to play in the league or possess the registeration of any players until they possess this "golden share". not sure how we would put that in the article --Fredrick day 14:48, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

It's in one sentence on both this and the history page stating that the club won't be allowed to start their league one campaign. All that needs to be added is an extra bit "as the league require the club to have gone through a CVA." with the guardian link you've provided as a reference. All this information won't be highly relevant unless the club ceases to exist so restricting it to one sentence to reduce recentism is probably the best policy. Chappy ^T_C 21:08, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

I've done this now. Chappy ^T_C 21:09, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Second Shirt Sponsor

Empire direct aren't our second shirt sponsor anymore, see here and here. Chappy ^T_C 18:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

It's now OHS, see here. Chappy ^T_C 10:41, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Edit list of leeds united a.f.c players page

Should this page not be like Talk:List of Liverpool F.C. players and similar pages. The page will be a list of notable Leeds United players. Those players will either made over 100 appearances, be included in the 100 greatest players or have made a major contribution to the club in otherways.y8c 21:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Since it's not just a list that title isn't descriptive of the article, it contains more than just a list of players, hence the title is descriptive of its contents. I wouldn't say removing the Club Captains information, Player of the year information, or greatest ever team was removing un-notable information, I feel this information is notable. However I am open to removing the full list at the bottom and replacing it with a list of purely notable players. Chappy^T_C 20:14, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

el:Λιντς Γιουνάιτεντ

Add the Greek article el:Λιντς Γιουνάιτεντ. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.73.90.220 (talk) 19:59, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Why don't you do it yourself? It's not that hard...--andreasegde (talk) 20:06, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Derrr..!! They can't do it because the article is blocked to anonymous editors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.166.69.94 (talk) 09:01, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

How come there are certain leeds players like Will Hatfield, Alex Cairns, Lewis Turner, Nathan Turner, Joe MCcan, and Sanchez Payne, that don have their own wikipedias and some of them dont even have squad numbers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LUFC Supporter (talk • contribs) 12:44, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

In the wilderness

Is it possible to go up? It's looking like a hopeless case...--andreasegde (talk) 20:06, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

History of Leeds United

Leeds played Coventry City in the 1987 FA Cup Semi Final, and not Watford (I should know, I was there). Cheers 1919Moose (talk) 09:09, 19 March 2008 (UTC)Moose1919

Minutes silence for Christopher Loftus and Kevin Speight.

I believe (from an email) that this is no longer observed at the request of the families. I do not know when it ended.

Yorkshireexile (talk) 17:02, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Famous fans

No mention of celebrities that support Leeds United.

These links give the names of our famous fans

http://www.leedsutd-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=113145

http://www.mehstg.com/leeds.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhinostillidie (talk • contribs) 23:17, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

• "Famous fans" sections are discouraged in football articles. If the celebrity is associated strongly with the club, mention it in their article. Black Kite 23:44, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Mike Grella's squad number

Mike Grella was give No. 13 as noted on the squad list found here. http://www.leedsunited.com/page/PlayerProfileIndex —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eminabe53 (talk • contribs) 19:39, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Elland road capacity

Please note the new capacity - 39,460 - after recent changes at Elland Road - http://www.leedsunited.com/page/Records/0,,10273,00.html. I have updated most pages that had the old number on, but someone went and changed it back to the old number recently (living in the past!). The reference for the previous capcity is a web archive page of the old Leeds Utd website - a useless reference when put in comparison with the current official club website! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.181.123 (talk • contribs) 20:35, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

It was changed back because the reference that was used for the capacity indicated the old figure. If you wish to change the figure then you also need to change the reference for that figure. Keith D (talk) 22:29, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Regardless, the figure quoted in the main Leeds article is wrong. Since the page is locked, someone with access needs to update it using the aforementioned reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.5.43.39 (talk • contribs) 22:33, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

I have changed in line with the reference and added the reference. The existing reference was to an archive version of a page and was not accessible in any case. Keith D (talk) 23:26, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Stadium and Supporters section, 3rd paragraph: "The stadium is currently the 10th largest football stadium in England" is unsourced and also glaringly contradicts: "The stadium is the 12th largest football stadium in England" in 5th paragraph. I guess one of these ought to go... :) LyUK (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:53, 12 June 2010 (UTC).

F.C. or A.F.C.

I've always been a bit confused with some wiki football club articles because some have F.C. and some have A.F.C.. I'm not confused about what they stand for, but that it isn't always too clear which should be used for a particular team. I just noticed this one, for example, has A.F.C. when I'm sure I've always been familiarised with just the F.C. for Leeds. The club badge has LUFC, not LUAFC, so should the "association" be put infront of it? And if it is, shouldn't all teams' articles say A.F.C.? Just a bit of clarification needed really, I feel.
Ը२ձւե๓ձռ¹⁷ 10:10, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

LUFC is now just printed on the crest, however I believe the official name is still A.F.C. I would say this should remain the page title, with the obvious redirects from similar titles. Mtaylor848 (talk) 21:35, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

New Home Kit

Just to confirm incase anyone has any issues, it states here at the official club website that we will be wearing the new home kit from tomorrow onwards (Northampton Town match at Elland Road), therefore I added the new kit.

I have tried to best to get the kit on the wikipedia page as close to the actual new kit design as I can; but if anyone can get any closer, feel free to edit away and improve it! Many thanks.
t1v37r^talk 11:01, 1 May 2009 (BST)

Manager Tables

It's amusing as article has a disproportionate number of honors tables for minor awards like Football League 100 Legends or Goal of the Year.

But there isn't a table for club managers, their years in charge and their win/lose %s.

Which, if this article is meant to be an encyclopedia entry, is what would be more appropriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.166.69.94 (talk) 09:08, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

There is; it's on a separate page: List of Leeds United A.F.C. managers Kaboooz LUFC ^T_C 16:49, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

controversially

"However, he controversially quit as manager on 28 January to take up a position in Kevin Keegan's new set-up at Newcastle United.[29]"

Might I suggest the wording be changed to "he surprisingly quit as manager", or that an alternative reference is used. I'm not suggesting that either club was happy about it, but at no point in that reference does the word "controversial", or any phrase to that effect, appear. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.161.114 (talk) 17:43, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Former crest

(For the record just writing after arriving home to the pub seeing Leeds draw (and lose on aggregate to Millwall)) The chinese page has a better former crest then the one we've borrowed from Leeds City Council. Not being chinese (and the chinese page being incredibly slow) I can not deduce the licencing. What is the feasabilty of using this crest on the English page, alternatively would it be OK to remove the 'Leeds City Council' text from the crest. The Leeds City crest may be better but I'm not sure of its accuracy in regards to Leeds United. Any ideas? Mtaylor848 (talk) 21:33, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Paris '75

Surely there should be some mention of the controversial circumstances? At the moment, it just says they were defeated - why is the goal that was disallowed for no apparent reason not mentioned, as well as the penalty appeals?

I believe this should really be included - it is widely accepted that Leeds were the true champions that year - it led to the We are Champions, Champions Of Europe chant, and it also added to the belief that UEFA have an anti English teams bias.

Thoughts?

Cheeseklaxons (talk) 11:55, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

The Peacocks

I would not say this name was at all obsolete. If no one objects in one of two days, I'll change it. Mtaylor848 (talk) 18:59, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

joe - promotion, and davide somma

if we keep hold of beckford, snodgrass, becchio and our central midfield players then we will go up. ive got a season ticket, and i tink weve got the quality to compete in the championship. can someone please add davide somma to the squad list, he signed a 1 year deal. he is the ex trailist south african forward/winger. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.173.81.193 (talk) 14:11, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Leigh Bromby

Leigh Bromby has signed for Leeds United, can somebody please add him to the squad? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.209.204.141 (talk) 01:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Request to add url

Hi, I would like to request the following change to the "external links" section:

Could we add:

A Leeds United Bibliography: A definitive list of all the books published on Leeds United Football Club. Featuring a complete listing of every book written about Leeds United, and every book by and/or about the personalities related to the club. The url is: http://www.lufctalk.com/resources/leeds-united-books/

Currently listing almost 260 books on the club. I wrote most of the content.

Please email me of you would like more information...

Sam Gibbard sgibbard@hotmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deebo-leeds (talk • contribs) 10:11, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Request to add URL

Hi I am an administrator on www.lufctalk.com - would it be possible to add our forum to the links please.

As Sam Gibbard has pointed out we have a massive database of Leeds United books, websites and other features soon to be added.

Regards Graham Ambler - Sheepy74 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheepy74 (talk • contribs) 22:35, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

galatasaray

Leeds united do not have a "rivalry with Turkish club Galatasaray". Galatasaray are utterly detested by the fans of L.U.A.F.C. due to the murders of C.Loftus and K.Speight and the actions of both the club Galatasaray who e.g. refused to have a minutes silence before the match (which was played the night after the murders) or wear black armbands tp show respect for the victims and later even had the cheek to demand the return leg being played at a neutral venue after L.U.A.F.C. didn´t allow Turkish fans to watch said match at Elland Road (following the advice of West Yorkshire Police) and then even accused the club of racism, as well as Galatasary´s "support" who, on the day of the first leg (again: the night after the murders) taunted Leeds fans and the team with throat slitting gestures, songs mocking the death of the two murdered fans, pelted Leeds players, fans and officials with missiles of all kinds etc. pp.. For all this there´s hate and contempt but that doesn´t make "a rivalry". Integral part of a rivalry is to have some sort of respect for the opposition (even if only grudgingly) like Leeds fans have for e.g. Manchester United. You have to earn your right to become a rival. There is nothing like that for Galatasaray and their "fans" who are considered animals and not worth being mentioned in the same breath as the Whites, and most certainly not as "rivals". Rant over. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Berlinwhite (talk • contribs) 12:15, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Rivalrys

Hey, you mention chelsea as a rival twice in the same paragraph and state the reason twice also. I went to edit the page but saw it was locked. could a mod or admin or whoever it is fix it plz —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.168.210.123 (talk • contribs) 04:16, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, I have re-jigged the text to remove the duplication. Keith D (talk) 12:40, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

&Please fix the space there... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.194.120.60 (talk) 17:58, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Fixed - it was a change yesterday that caused he problem. Keith D (talk) 22:12, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Another part on "Rivalries"

One paragraph near to the end finishes with " but however are the most hated club in English football as of the start of the 2008–09 season", a rather vindictive statement that otherwise does have a source - from a tabloid, no less. I sincerely hope that this extension hasn't actually pertained in the article since 2008. --86.178.253.210 (talk) 01:06, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Andreas Moutta

Andreas moutta is a 20 year old man, some have said he is harder than chuck norris.

He was born on the 14th of febuary 1990, he is of greek heritage with an English mother calld Deborah, his height has been recorded at 6 foot and his weight is 85Kg's.

All in all it has been said he is a legend.

Edit request from Zulewz00, 28 May 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Hey users, I'm requesting that Jermaine Beckford be removed from the Leeds United wikipedia page.

There are many media sources saying Jermaine has completed a move to Everton on a 4 year contract and i'm sure they got this from Everton Official sources who will add the news to their homepage later today.

Thank you.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-news-Everton-complete-deal-for-Leeds-strike-star-Jermaine-Beckford-article440521.html

Zulewz00 (talk) 01:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Not done: Spitfire19 (Talk) 02:23, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 212.50.177.101, 11 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

Rabbit Revolution

Spanish dictator Franco often had his troops round up hundreds of rabbits. The reason for this, was to play rabbit football. This consisted of tying several animals legs together to create a furry ball. This was ideal for the troops to have a leisurely kick-about, in between slaughtering innocent Spaniards. The practice was outlawed after his death and the re-introduction of the monarch. The Monarchy stated their preference for a cheeky game of squirrel hockey.

S.Hook (2010).

212.50.177.101 (talk) 13:39, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. SpigotMap 13:46, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Can you please help expand West Yorkshire Derby?

I am calling upon all users with knowledge on the West Yorkshire Derby(s) so that the article can be expanded. Any help or co-operation would be much appreciated. Regards IJA (talk) 14:51, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Bryn231, 31 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

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Bryn231 (talk) 22:35, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. --ANowlin: talk 03:05, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from wwodb, 6 August 2010

It says in the 2010-present part that Patrick Kisnorbo was injured in preseason, in fact he suffered the injury in the game against Millwall in the previous season some months back. This needs removing or updating.

Yes definitely agree with this request - Patrick ruptured his Achilles Tendon playing against Millwall at Elland Road on March 22nd, 2010. It was definitely not in pre-season! Please edit - thanks.

Link to the match report here: http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20100322/millwall-take-the-points-at-elland-road_2247585_2002099 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.105.198 (talk) 14:55, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Nitin.fernandes, 8 November 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} In the Rivalries section, a lot of rivals have been missed out. Hull City for one, Doncaster Rovers and a few others and no mention of the recent rivalry between Millwall and Leeds. The most shocking is the fact that there is no mention of the animosity between Leeds and Galatasaray after the killing of two Leeds fans in 2000 in Turkey.

Plus, I'd liked to see the fact that Football Fan Census named Leeds United the most hated team across England.

Nitin.fernandes (talk) 15:09, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. elektrikSHOOS 03:01, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Ownership

There is no mention on here of who owns LU - the only reference to it is that Ken Bates's bid was accepted. However, if you read the statement on the club's website http://www.leedsunited.com/page/Ownership/0,,10273,00.html - it is not clear who are the ultimate owners.

The football league dont know either, so there is no real changes to be made yet, but if they are promoted to the premier league(which atm is not very likely!) they will be forced to reveal their ownership. it is believed to be a indonesian consort but ken bates i s the official chairman Blackbmk (talk) 15:27, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Julie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.218.218.73 (talk) 13:09, 2 March 2011 (UTC) 206.218.218.73 (talk) 13:13, 2 March 2011 (UTC)2 March 2011

Ramon Nunez

it says ramon nunez is on loan to scunthorpe until the 24th april, it is now the 28th Blackbmk (talk) 15:27, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Inter-Cities Fairs Cup/UEFA Cup

UEFA Cup alternate should be removed. Although following on from one another these competitions are not technically affiliated. See Below:

http://en.archive.uefa.com/uefa/news/kind=1/newsid=2571.html

All other pages citing Inter-Cities Fairs Cup champions cite without such a caveat i.e.:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal_F.C.#European http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinamo_Zagreb#Honours http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferencv%C3%A1rosi_TC#Honours http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Zaragoza#Honours http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_United#European http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.S._Roma#International_titles

Perhaps a justification could be added, such as:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Barcelona#European http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valencia_CF#Major_European_competitions —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.157.106.229 (talk) 20:03, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 99.136.253.201, 30 May 2011

The section titled "1974 – The Three Fortnights of Brian Clough; Jimmy Armfield Replaces Him:" references the book and film 'The Damned Utd' by Jonathan Peace. The author's name is actually David Peace as referenced by the link for 'The Damned Utd.'

99.136.253.201 (talk) 17:49, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Mike Grella

Mike Grella Has been alowed to leave leeds http://www.leedsunited.com/page/PlayerProfileIndex/0,,10273,00.html http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110608/grellas-big-apple-opportunity_2247585_2373175 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.151.88 (talk) 10:26, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Squad numbers

Here are the upto date squad numbers and positions http://www.leedsunited.com/page/PlayerProfileIndex/0,,10273,00.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dobski82 (talk • contribs) 10:50, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Removal of players

Please could someone remove Jonny Birbeck, Brandon Cardwell and Elliott Kebbie for the list of players? Birbeck and Cardwell were not offered pro deals (see here: http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110509/academy-trio-offered-pro-deals_2247585_2356388) and Kebbie decided against taking up his scholarship (see here: http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110614/elliotts-spanish-move_2247585_2375904). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.204.168.224 (talk) 12:07, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Nicknames

For some reason I can't edit the page, but the nickname "the Damned United" has not been added, somebody please rectify this. --T.M.M. Dowd (talk) 19:11, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Is that really a nickname of the club? Do you have a source thar uses that as a nickname? It's Malpass⁹₃! (_drop me a ^___) 14:39, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 92.4.48.101, 15 August 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} Please Change list in current squad, As Andy Keogh has been signed on loan until january Please also add Mikael Forssell to trialists list Evidence of both of these are on Wikipedia pages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Keogh and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikael_Forssell Respectively More evidence for these changes to be made can be found on the leeds united website www.leedsunited.com The articles are http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110815/striker-keogh-returns-to-leeds_2247585_2420682 and http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110815/finnish-international-in-training_2247585_2421023 Respectively. Please complete both these updates to ensure that the wikipedia page for Leeds United is fully up to date as of 15th August 2011, 19:25 BST

92.4.48.101 (talk) 18:24, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

 Not done Wikipedia is not a reliable source  Chzz  ►  05:06, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 92.4.48.101, 15 August 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} Request change under sub-heading rivalries the article states 'This is not reciprocated by the Manchester side, who consider rivalries with Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Manchester City to be of greater importance.' I request for this comment to be removed on the bases that it does not correspond with the Manchester United article which clearly states under rivalries section (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_United_F.C.#Rivalries)that 'The "Roses Rivalry" with Leeds stems from the Wars of the Roses, fought between the House of Lancaster and the House of York, with Manchester United representing Lancashire and Leeds representing Yorkshire.' This clearly shows that it is a long-term rivalry, and Leeds United is one of only 3 clubs mentioned under rivalries, which clearly shows its importance. The way in which it states in the Leeds United article that it is not reciprocated and others to be of greater importance may show bias against Leeds United and unfair favor towards Manchester United as the facts stated in the Manchester United article clearly state to contradict this point of rivalry importance this is why the comment should be remove from what is meant to be an opinion free, factual article.

92.4.48.101 (talk) 18:37, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

This template may only be used when followed by a specific description of the request, that is, specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. "Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y".  Chzz  ►  05:05, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 92.4.49.29, 26 August 2011

Squad Change Remove Mike Grella As He has signed a new contract according to wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Grella Also Leeds United Website has confirmed that Mike Grella's contract has been mutually terminated as he does not feature in Simon Graysons plans http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110826/grella-departs-elland-road_2247585_2433334

92.4.49.29 (talk) 17:09, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Already been removed. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 01:46, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Leeds United Away Kit/Third Kit

Leeds have released a new away kit for this season, being all-black with a lime green (or yellow) trim, whereas the secondary kit is shown as blue with a yellow trim (this is now the third kit).

Link: http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110721/new-united-away-kit_2247585_2398210

86.29.174.213 (talk) 03:10, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 92.4.110.50, 1 September 2011

Squad Change Request Max Gradel no longer plays for leeds united as he has signed for Saint-Étienne. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Gradel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS_Saint-Étienne#Current_squad http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110831/too-big-an-opportunity-max_2247585_2436804 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14725400.stm

In Addition Defender Federico Bessone no longer plays for Leeds United either. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federico_Bessone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swansea_City_A.F.C.#Current_squad http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14742187.stm http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110831/bessone-makes-swansea-return_2247585_2438027

92.4.110.50 (talk) 08:13, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

I do not see where in the article it has either listed as current players. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 08:44, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 92.4.56.207, 13 September 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} Edit Current Squad Addition of Mika Väyrynen as he has now signed for leeds united on a one year contract. this has been confirmed by the official leeds united website http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110913/international-midfielder-signs_2247585_2449861 and Mika's wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mika_Väyrynen_(footballer)

92.4.56.207 (talk) 14:48, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

The problem is, it currently shows "Current squad As of 26 May 2011 - if I were to change just that one, then that claim would be incorrect. We could update the entire current squad, with an appropriate reference?  Chzz  ►  01:33, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 92.4.96.139, 22 September 2011

Change squad list Addition of danny pugh As he is on loan with a view to a permanent deal in january according to both Danny pugh's wikipedia page and on the leeds united website. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Pugh http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20110922/united-seal-pugh-return_2247585_2458412 92.4.96.139 (talk) 21:15, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Already done by Tholynski. Dynamic|cimanyD contact me ⁞ my edits 22:07, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 14 October 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} The "rivalries" section refers to Manchester United not reciptrocating the rivalry. This is not true and obviously a mischievious edit by a Manchester United fan designed to belittle Leeds united.

193.130.234.15 (talk) 11:48, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

See below; I think this is effectively a duplicated request? If not, please re-reqiest and explain why. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  04:36, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 14 October 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} Please change "Leeds' biggest rivalry has been with Manchester United, due to the traditional rivalry between the counties of Lancashire and Yorkshire (often described as a "War of the Roses", though the historical Wars of the roses had little to do with geographical counties). This is not reciprocated[citation needed] by the Manchester side, who consider rivalries with Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea[citation needed] and Manchester City to be of greater importance."

to

"Leeds' biggest rivalry has been with Manchester United, due to the traditional rivalry between the counties of Lancashire and Yorkshire (often described as a "War of the Roses", though the historical Wars of the roses had little to do with geographical counties) and everything to do with the Houses of Lancaster an York.."

The part about non-reciprocation is not true, is not reflected onthe manchester United entry and belittling to Leeds united.

193.130.234.15 (talk) 11:54, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

I've simply removed This is not reciprocated by the Manchester side, who consider rivalries with Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Manchester City to be of greater importance. because it was unreferenced. I won't add the everything to do with the Houses of Lancaster an York stuff, because that would be unreferenced too. I hope that's OK; if you do want to add more, please discuss it here, but please give references.  Chzz  ►  04:35, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for that, it hasn't been removed though. It still appears the same as it was. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.130.234.15 (talk) 12:20, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, it does now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.130.234.15 (talk) 12:23, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

It was probably just your internet browser cache; it was actually removed (by me) at 04:34 UTC, 16 October 2011 - [1] - I will mark this 'done'; please use a fresh request for anything else. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  16:41, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

 Done

Edit request on 29 November 2011

Update Squad Paul Rachubka has been loaned out to Tranmere Rovers Alex Bruce has been loaned out to Huddersfield And Leeds United have signed Maik Taylor on short term contract

144.124.27.93 (talk) 08:49, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Do you have sources for these? --Jnorton7558 (talk) 16:14, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 3 January 2012

Under Squad list, Alex Mccarthy and Andy Keogh need to be removed as they have now returned to their parent clubs, and are no longer part of the leeds united squad. Source : http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds_united_keogh_and_mccarthy_to_head_back_to_parent_clubs_1_4109218

92.4.109.184 (talk) 11:34, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 3 January 2012

Under Squad list, Alex Mccarthy and Andy Keogh need to be removed as they have now returned to their parent clubs, and are no longer part of the leeds united squad. Source : http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds_united_keogh_and_mccarthy_to_head_back_to_parent_clubs_1_4109218

92.4.109.184 (talk) 11:34, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 3 January 2012

Please remove Andy Keogh and Alex Mccarthy from squad list as they have both now returned to their parent clubs. Wolves and reading respectively. Sources: http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120103/loan-duo-return-to-clubs_2247585_2564698 http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds_united_keogh_and_mccarthy_to_head_back_to_parent_clubs_1_4109218

92.4.109.184 (talk) 13:30, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 3 January 2012

There are a few changes to be made to the 'Current Squad'

Robinwalker19 (talk) 14:17, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 3 January 2012

Remove Andy Keogh from squad list as he no longer plays for Leeds United. He has returned to his parent club, Wolverhampton Wanderers.

92.4.109.184 (talk) 17:44, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 6 January 2012

Removal of Andy Keogh and Alex Mccarthy as they have been sent back to their parent clubs, and shall play no more part in leeds united's promotion campaign. this has been confirmed by the leeds united website.

92.4.54.235 (talk) 18:01, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Squad table format

A discussion is being held here on the possibility of rolling out a new squad template. The new template, named {{football squad player2}}, differs from the standard squad layout in several ways:

• It features a sort function
• Comes in a single column format that can be understood by screen readers.
  • Single column format ensures that low resolution browsers, including mobile devices, do not get part or all of the second column cut off.
  • Single column format ensures less clutter, particularly at lower resolutions, for wide sections such as the Arsenal loan section.
• It gives nationality its own column; at present flags are featured in a blank, untitled column
• It complies with Wikipedia's guidance on flag usage.
• It leaves enough space to add images of current players, an example of which can be seen at Watford F.C#Current squad.

It is proposed that the new template be added to some of Wikipedia's most high-profile club articles, which might include Leeds United F.C.. To give your thoughts, please read and contribute to the discussion at WikiProject Football.

Regards, Edinburgh Wanderer 19:40, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

The existing discussion is too rambling and complicated in layout to engage in. A separate discussion should be started for any new participants gathered by these postings. Also - some of the statements you have made here aren't true and could be misleading to non-technical users.Bladeboy1889 (talk) 22:33, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 29 January 2012

Please remove Jonny Howson 14 from our squad list and remove the awaiting work permit next to robbie rogers' name

Bryn231 (talk) 10:25, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Celestra (talk) 02:30, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Sacking of Manager

Page needs to be updated to reflect sacking of Simon Grayson as manager on 1 February and with Neil Redfearn as temporary manager. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.171.254.96 (talk) 02:24, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 30 April 2012

Please make necessary changes to squad list Both Ben Parker and Mika Väyrynen have had their contracts cancelled and will play no part in the future of Leeds United Confirmed by Leeds United football club on this link http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120416/duo-set-to-leave-elland-road_2247585_2737035

It has also be confirmed that Darren O'Dea has now returned to Celtic and will not be signed on a permenant basis by Leeds United, this was confirmed by Leeds United http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120420/odeas-days-at-leeds-are-done-boss_2247585_2741976

Paul Robinson has now returned to his parent club Bolton Wanderers, and it is unlikely that he will return to Elland Road, confirmed by Leeds United http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120430/robbo-move-unlikely-boss_2247585_2754601

144.124.27.93 (talk) 18:48, 30 April 2012 (UTC) Already done Can't find any of these players on the page anymore, so this seems to be resolved. --The Evil IP address (talk) 15:32, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 2 May 2012 - Add external website - Leeds United bibliography

Please could the following addition be made to the external liks section as follows? :

• 'Leeds United Books' A Leeds United bibliography: a definitive list of all the books published on Leeds United Football Club and related personalities.

This resource list s over 300 books on the club, with images, publication details, and descriptions. An invaluable resource for researchers.

Kind regards, Sam

Sgibbard (talk) 03:23, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

 Done Rcsprinter (articulate) 16:46, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 17 May 2012

Change to squad list Players in youth team, both Simon Lenighan and Sam Byram have both signed a professional contract with Leeds United so are now in Current Squad, yet to be given numbers. This has been confirmed by the Leeds United Official Webage http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120515/simon-joins-sam-as-a-pro_2247585_2773185

Also a few weeks ago former Portsmouth defender Jason Pearce has signed for Leeds United taking Andy O'Brians number 5 Shirt. Confirmed here ==> http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120504/defender-cant-wait-to-get-started_2247585_2759968

Edit request on 2 July 2012

Changes to be made to squad list Additions Adam Drury who has signed from Norwich City Paul Green who has signed from Derby County Both have been confirmed to have completed contracts by the official leeds united webpage, but have yet to be given shirt numbers http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120702/duos-united-switch-is-official_2247585_2829089

109.145.207.106 (talk) 13:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Not done for now: Not until a shirt number has officially been announced. Mdann52 (talk) 17:44, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 4 July 2012

Please could someone update the squad lists on the main page. Charlie Clamp, Monty Gimpel, Ross Killock and Dominic Poleon have all signed pro deals (see here: http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120613/young-recruits-are-fantastic-boost-neil_2247585_2809652 and here: http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120611/duo-sign-up-for-the-future_2247585_2808017) and so can be moved to the main (current) squad list in the same way Sam Byram and Simon Lenighan have been, also Nathan Turner has been given a new one year contract (with the option of another year after that) (see here: http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120510/twins-are-united-in-desire-to-succeed_2247585_2765749) and so can also be moved to the main (current) squad list as his brother Lewis has been.

As for the Reserve and Youth Team list, the following players can be removed. Christian Paulat-Brigg is no longer involved with the academy and hasn't been for over a year, he now plays for Silsden (see here: http://www.isthmian.co.uk/leagues?player_appearances&lid=195&did=12670&comp=4530&sel=1&pid=1194450&team=Silsden%20Res). Sean McDermott's youth loan ended a few weeks before the end of last season, he returned to Arsenal and has subsequently been released (see here: http://arsenalyouth.wordpress.com/2012/04/21/u-18s-end-season-with-win-but-miss-out-on-title/ and here: http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/arsenal-release-seven-players). Conor Qualter, Dean Bartle, Jordan Snodin and Billy Ions were not offered pro deals when the other second year scholars were (see here: http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120502/the-magnificent-seven_2247585_2757299). 94.6.31.148 (talk) 22:33, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Not done: I would apreciate shirt numbers before making any changes. Mdann52 (talk) 17:45, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

But then you're not being consistent. If you add Byram and Lenighan, I can't see how you can say the other second year scholars who signed pro deals at the same time can't be added. Surely, it is all or nothing? Also, your point regarding shirt numbers doesn't apply to the second paragraph. Regards, Jake Catfish (talk) 19:13, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

I didn't add Bryam and Lenighan. Mdann52 (talk) 10:50, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Marking as answered. If the requested information is provided, then the request can be reactivated. RudolfRed (talk) 22:12, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 23 July 2012

Addition to squad list of Luke Varney formerly Portsmouth striker, and also Rodoloph Austin who was a Central midfielder at SK Brann. These signings have been confirmed by the official leeds united page here ==> http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120723/deals-agreed-for-varney-and-austin_2247585_2858137

86.171.181.176 (talk) 19:42, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Not done for now: We are not in a hurry. Confirmed users that are fans keep up on players. I am just trying to clear the request board.--Canoe1967 (talk) 10:28, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 3 August 2012

Edit Squad list The following youngsters have now signed professional contracts with leeds united, so need to be listed under "current squad"; Dominc Poleon Ross Killock Simon Lenighan Charlie Clamp Sam Byram Monty Gimpel

In addition to these edits, new shirt number have been allocated, here are the changes to squad numbers

• 1 Paddy Kenny
• 3 Adam Drury
• 7 Paul Green
• 8 Rodolph Austin
• 11 Luke Varney
• 12 Jamie Ashdown
• 14 Aidan White
• 18 Andy Gray
• 19 David Norris
• 21 Michael Brown
• 22 Robbie Rogers
• 23 Zac Thompson
• 24 Paul Connolly

Evidence for these changes have been confirmed by the official Leeds United Webpage http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120803/new-squad-numbers-announced_2247585_2867955 http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120611/duo-sign-up-for-the-future_2247585_2808017 http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120515/simon-joins-sam-as-a-pro_2247585_2773185

86.168.223.61 (talk) 11:25, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Just a few notes:-

• Not done for now: to new additions until the season proper starts
• Done for the number changes

Mdann52 (talk) 16:17, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure the numbers for Somma, Cairns, Taylor and Lewis Turner are still valid as they're not listed in the article announcing the new numbers: http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120803/new-squad-numbers-announced_2247585_2867955 Jake Catfish (talk) 18:09, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Updates to Development squad and youth team list

Please could someone update the 'Development squad and youth team' list of players, by removing the following names?

Conor Qualter - He was not offered a pro-deal following the conclusion of the 2011-12 season, and has now signed for FC Halifax Town. Mentioned here: http://www.halifaxafc.co.uk/News/article/stockport-report-july-21-257065.aspx?pageView=full#anchored

Christian Paulat-Brigg - Has not been involved with Leeds United since May 2011. He now plays for Silsden. Mentioned here: http://nonleague.pitchero.com/news/cobblydalers-aim-for-highest-ever-finish-15092/

Billy Ions and Dean Bartle were also not offered pro-deals following the end of last season. I believe Ions mentioned on his Twitter (https://twitter.com/BillyIons) that he will be attending Loughborough university, and he seems to be playing for their team. Not sure what Bartle is doing. Jordan Snodin was also not offered a pro-deal, but is currently still training with the Development squad.

Jake Catfish (talk) 18:42, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Done for the ones provided with reliable sources (ie. the first two). Mdann52 (talk) 15:46, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Warnock picture

Has no body got a better, more recent one? (under coaching staff). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.211.66.250 (talk) 09:40, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Current squad update request

Please could someone make the following edits to the current squad list? Davide Somma, Alex Cairns, Charlie Taylor and Lewis Turner do not currently have squad numbers, those listed are from last season. You can see the current squad list, with numbers, here: http://www.leedsunited.com/page/PlayerProfileIndex/0,,10273,00.html.

Also, Alex Cairns is currently on a month long loan to Stalybridge Celtic: http://www.footballconference.co.uk/news/details.php?news_id=7771

Jake Catfish (talk) 20:01, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Your account is old enough with enough edits to be autoconfirmed, so you should be able to make these edits yourself. RudolfRed (talk) 21:00, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

•  Not done only because requesting user should be able to make this edit himself. Please replace the {{editsemiprotected}} tag if this is not the case. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 14:20, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Apologies, had not realised I was now able to edit. Have done so.

Jake Catfish (talk) 19:00, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Andy Gray

Andy Gray has shirt no 20, not 18. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.231.191.168 (talk) 05:32, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Rio Ferdinand - transfer fee recieved

On the LUFC records and statistics Wikipedia page, the Rio Ferdinand sale is marked down as £32.255m / £30.8m are we sure this is correct, as the official site has it at £29.1m?

Opinions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edsloan (talk • contribs) 10:46, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 21 November 2012

On the 21st Novemeber Gulf Finance House Capital (GFHC) which is a subsidary of Gulf Finance House (GFH) Agreed a deal with Ken Bates and with football league approval to purchasing 100% of Leeds Holding comapny which is the parent company of the club for an estimated £52 million which would see ken Bates become club president after the season finished. Djstar3d (talk) 14:51, 21 November 2012 (UTC) http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20121121/gfh-capital-to-take-over-leeds-united_2247585_2986979

Already done - thanks. Begoon ^talk 10:16, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Thoughts on overhauling the existing article and attempting to make it more of a summary?

I would like to suggest that an overhaul of the article is attempted, especially the sections on recent history, which are overlong and read more like an almanac of the club's day to day activity over the last 3 seasons rather than an encyclopedic entry. Can I suggest that any fine detail is moved to the seperate History article? Coopuk (talk) 14:01, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Recent edit changing Leeds United A.F.C. to Leeds United F.C.

What are people's thoughts on the recent edit that has removed any references to the word 'Association' (as in A.F.C.) in the article? As far as I can see, all it has really done is invalidate the links to most of the related articles, which isn't particularly helpful. I'm not sure this should have been done without any discussion first. Thoughts?

Jake Catfish (talk) 19:18, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Apologies if I've invalidated any links, however the change (that "Association" only existed as part of the old defunct company name not the club/team name) itself I am convinced is factual and reflected in the the sources (ie. this from the FA) and therefore should be evident on the page.

Can someone sort out the problem with the links (do a re-direct maybe) and correct the title of the page as well? Gefetane (talk) 07:35, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 June 2013

Daniel Jeffery Retail Director Stopper70 (talk) 10:38, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. The article currently says: Retail Manager - Dan Jeffery.

Were you asking for a change to the name, the job title, or both; and do you have a reliable source to support the change? Begoon ^talk 10:40, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 1 July 2013

Club officials

Main article: Leeds United A.F.C. personnel

Owners	GFH Capital
Life Patron	Patricia, Countess of Harewood
Chairman	Salah Nooruddin
Directors	David Haigh Salem Patel Hisham Al-Rayes Salah Nooruddin Shaun Harvey
Managing Director	David Haigh
Football Ambassadors	Peter Lorimer Dominic Matteo Eddie Gray
Catering Director	Norbert Pichler
Director of Commercial Affairs	Paul Bell
Ticket Services Manager	Katie Holmes-Lewis
IT Manager	Mark Broadley
Membership/Customer Services	Lorna Tinker
Financial Controller	Fay Greer
Retail Manager	Dan Jeffery
Head of Media	Paul Dews

Updated to match played 2 May 2013
Source: Leeds United Season Official Handbook 2012/13
Callumleinster (talk) 17:12, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Already  Done by someone else. --SamX‧☎‧✎‧S 17:09, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 1 July 2013

Retail Director - Dan Jeffery

Stopper70 (talk) 19:55, 1 July 2013 (UTC) Source Matchday Programme 2012/13 2013/14 Seasons

It doesn't look like anyone is going to carry out this request. If you can provide a reference that we can verify, please do so and either reopen this request, or initiate a new one. Monty₈₄₅ 23:57, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 15 July 2013

Ian Molloy is from the republic of Ireland. Not England. 213.233.147.166 (talk) Ian Molloy is not English. He is from the republic of Ireland.

References

 Done Jake Catfish (talk) 20:10, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 27 July 2013

Remove Ken Bates from President as he is no longer president of Leeds United Football club as confirmed by the official leeds united webpage http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20130726/statement-ken-bates-tenure-ends_2247585_3328918 As there is no current president of leeds united please replace Ken Bates with "N/A" 92.22.148.161 (talk) 17:30, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Already  Done by someone else Jake Catfish (talk) 20:18, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 6 August 2013

As of the 22nd July 2013, Leeds United have a new away kit. The current kits section needs to be updated. Source: http://www.leedsunited.com/news/article/59palw8sy5up1c3fxr2n7k09n/title/new-away-kit-time-to-shine — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.14.161.50 (talk) 15:19, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

I feel the top of the article needs expanding

As the title suggests, to me it seems a little bare compared to other clubs. A good starting place would be:

Leeds United /ˈliːdz/ is an English professional football club, based in Beeston, Leeds, who currently play in the Football League Championship.

As a suggestion. Thanks. 90.212.247.73 (talk) 23:41, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Removal of "AFC" required from article title/links

I raised this point a few months ago and nothing has been changed yet - it is not the biggest issue in the world but for the sake of accuracy this error should be corrected...

Essentially, since the old corporate entity Leeds United Association Football Club Limited was placed in liquidation in 2007, neither the club's legal entity (the new company formed by Ken Bates, Leeds United Football Club Limited), nor the club's playing/team name, have included the "Association" word/"A.F.C". Here is the evidence from the FA list of club's corporate names and "club playing name". http://www.thefa.com/~/media/files/thefaportal/governance-docs/rules-of-the-association/2013-14/full-member-clubs.ashx

Although I appreciate that the "AFC" still features on the seating pattern of one of the stands in the stadium, surely this alone does not serve as a basis for justifying the name of this article?!

However inconvenient it may be in terms of page links etc, the fact is that the name of this article is inaccurate and therefore requires updating. Gefetane (talk) 15:27, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

It is not Leeds United A.F.C. anymore it is officially F.C. ... I investigated the official FA website http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/more/rules-of-the-association and found the file linked by Gefetane under the miscellaneous tab on the website. I also followed Gefetane's link and can confirm its validity. The 'Leeds United A.F.C.' that was painted on the seats of Elland Road has also been removed from the stadium. A.F.C. is no longer in use. Vazmika (talk) 18:23, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

I removed "Association" from the name in the body of the article at the introduction/info box, but obviously article title etc is another issue. Maybe impractical? Gefetane (talk) 14:52, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Edit request on 30 December 2013

"However, the team was also known for its dirty play, famously when they injured many of Derby County's first team ahead of their European Cup match against Juventus thus earning the nickname "Dirty Leeds"

This is simply not true. It is a fictional incident in the film Damned United, a film filled with factual inaccuracies. Shocking that someone seems to have taken it for a factual documentary. 86.151.29.209 (talk) 20:34, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done Not sure about your assertions in regards to the film, but removed that sentence as it was unsourced. Such potentially controversial material should be tightly referenced and written from neutral point of view. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 03:00, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

fans of other clubs did say that about us , maybe something could be placed in the article about the Leeds United 'reputation', only put more neutrally and not from an anti-Leeds perspective as it was in the article - and Leeds were maybe more sinned against than sinning anyway , like at 06-07 seconds in this video , [2], very dangerous Sayerslle (talk) 14:04, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

If you can find a reliable source (not a video clip) to verify by all means you may mention it in the article from a manner that doesn't impinge on the neutrality of the article. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 19:27, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Leeds United Academy

Delete, not a notable orgainzation by itself. Article is unreferenced and this can easily be covered and merged into the parent org page Hell In A Bucket (talk) 05:43, 31 January 2014 (UTC) Hell In A Bucket (talk) 05:43, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

• Merge the academy page to here. Blackberry Sorbet (talk • contribs) 10:07, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
• Merge - I was about to be BOLD and do this but saw this discussion first. GiantSnowman 19:57, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Shirt Sponsors 2014

It has been announced as of Deadline Day (31Jan 2014) Enterprise Insurance will end their sponsorship at the end of the season and as will Flamingo Land Park and Resort the Academy sponsor due to the unjustifiable sacking of manager Brian McDermott. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.92.232.178 (talk) 14:33, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2014

please can the team manager be corrected as this role is not vacant and also says on the page that it was last updated 17/01/2014. Bryan Mcdermott is still the team manager and has not been sacked http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26014775 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25986093 90.208.61.231 (talk) 10:12, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

 Done We'll await further events.... Arjayay (talk) 18:08, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2014

brian McDermott is still manager Leedsfan1991js (talk) 17:27, 5 February 2014 (UTC)  Done - I thought it was clear, as is stated in the infobox, but I have reworded the "New takeover" section to clarify this. Arjayay (talk) 17:42, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Backroom staff / Club officials section

I believe the 75% part-ownership of Massimo Cellino / Eleonora Sport Ltd. is subject to the approval of the Football League, which has not yet been granted.

I also believe that the 15% ownership attributed to Salah Nooruddin is not verified by any source.

Below the table of club officials, the footnote "Last updated 2 May 2013" conflicts with the owners and CEO information listed which are very recent or still pending. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rev Ghidorah (talk • contribs) 01:29, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 February 2014

This club is not owned by massimo cellino, the takeover has not been approved. therefore this is incorrect. 5.179.74.213 (talk) 11:19, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 16:07, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 March 2014

change flag next to manager brian mcdermotts name from an english one to an irish one 82.1.181.178 (talk) 22:58, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Question: Why? What is your rationale? — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 23:09, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 March 2014

Change ownership of Leeds United back to "GFH Capital" GFH have been owners of Leeds United for over a year now Mr Cellino, and Elenora sports do not own Leeds. They were prospective buyers, but the football league has confirmed that he is not allowed to takeover source: http://www.leedsunited.com/news/article/1oyl9zgyx0ngf16bzsu8sop4ha/title/a-statement-from-the-board Source: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/mar/24/massimo-cellino-leeds-united-football-league-bar-takeover Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26717044

Please change this asap, as is innacurate and mis leading 92.22.157.238 (talk) 20:15, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Done --Mdann52talk to me! 13:52, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 March 2014

The ownership line is incorrect: It still remains as GFH Capital. UNtil the football league realize what morons they are and allow Massimo Cellino to take over!

86.28.232.149 (talk) 17:45, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Done --Mdann52talk to me! 13:53, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2014

|owner = Massimo Cellino, Salah Nooruddin & GFH Capital Callumleinster (talk) 01:17, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

References

 Not done Verification failed. The source doesn't mention, Massimo Cellino and Salah Nooruddin. However, GFH Capital find its mention but as a manager, not as an owner. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 18:24, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

rivals

surely after the clough revvie era derby county must be considered rivals — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.148.207.254 (talk) 20:22, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2014

the first team squad is missing number 36, Alex Mowatt who played almost every game this season. Please add him in Chanpion01 (talk) 11:45, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 15:05, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 July 2014

Massimo Cellino is the New Leeds United Chairman.

77.96.145.201 (talk) 18:22, 7 July 2014 (UTC)Massimo Cellino is the New Leeds United Chairman.

Not done: Already mentions him being the President.  NQ  talk 06:17, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 July 2014

please remove |- class="vcard agent" | style="text-align: center" | 44 | style="text-align: center" | FW | style="padding-right:15px;" | SCO | style="padding-right:15px;" | Ross McCormack (Captain)

Kareng963 (talk) 12:26, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 16:29, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 August 2014

Please add Irish goalkeeper, Eric Grimes, to the 'Development squad and youth team' as he is still with the club and is currently missing from this section. He was, temporarily, part of the 'current squad' section until the squad numbers for the 2014/15 season were revealed on the 1 August 2014 (http://www.leedsunited.com/news/article/1wncxa2kw0zr11fmlyjr0m3t53/title/squad-numbers-released), with Grimes no longer having a squad number. Grimes is still with the club: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/eric-grimes/profil/spieler/228767 82.14.161.50 (talk) 16:24, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

 Done --Pratyya ^(Hello!) 13:22, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 2

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The result of the move request was: not moved. The consensus is that, in this case, consistency is a more important factor than the common name. No prejudice against a new RM to discuss whether "A.F.C." should be changed to "F.C.". Jenks24 (talk) 06:41, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

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Leeds United A.F.C. → Leeds United – Article covers the football club known commonly as Leeds United. The club was formerly officially known as "Leeds United Association Football Club" until a recent reformation as "Leeds United Football Club", technically a separate entity but considered a continuation of the same club. Neither name is in common use however there is minority usage of "Leeds United FC", "Leeds United AFC", "LUFC" and the anachronistic "Leeds United A.F.C." and "Leeds United F.C." (the use of ellipses in contemporary British English reliable sources is rare). "Leeds United" covers the varying historical versions of the club title, is overwhelmingly the common name of the organisation per WP:COMMONNAME and unambiguously describes the content of the article per WP:PRECISION as the football club is overwhelmingly the primary topic for similarly named topics per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Hack (talk) 01:09, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

• Comment. Whilst I agree that Leeds United is the WP:COMMONNAME most club articles include FC, e.g. Manchester United F.C.. Hopefully someone involved with Wikipedia:WikiProject Football will be able to assist. Zarcadia (talk) 15:47, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Oppose as per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (sports teams). Zarcadia (talk) 12:40, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose as it is standard practice to use F.C. or A.F.C. for British football clubs. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (sports teams) Keith D (talk) 23:43, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
• Support per WP:CONCISE Red Slash 23:44, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose - What would 'Leeds United' mean then - the ladies team, reserves, etc. Of course not - the proposition would like it to mean the 'mens' team. The club's men's team shouldn't have preferential dispensation. If this is really an issue take it to WikiProject Football and argue that, for consistency, all clubs should have a shortened form, and then if successful lets enjoy the search confusion it will cause. Acabashi (talk) 02:31, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

• Comment the men's team is the primary topic. According to stats.grok.se, for the month of August 2014, this article and the main redirects (Leeds United, Leeds United F.C., Leeds United AFC and Leeds United FC) received a total of 78849 hits compared to 705 for Leeds United L.F.C. and Leeds United LFC. Hack (talk) 03:05, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose The long-established naming convention for British football clubs is to include A.F.C. or F.C. in order to achieve consistency, one of the five key WP:NAMINGCRITERIA; the alternative is an awful mess whereby some clubs have it and some don't (or end up with (football club) disambiguation, though that is pretty much impossible given the likes of A.F.C. Bournemouth/Bournemouth F.C., F.C. Halifax Town/Halifax Town A.F.C. etc). Currently there is some semblance of order in naming of clubs, let's not ruin it. However, I would support the article being moved to Leeds United F.C. per the recent rename. Number 57 08:35, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Also, Wikipedia:Naming conventions (sports teams) makes it clear that the official name should be used ahead of the common name for articles on sports teams. Number 57 08:42, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
    • You're doing well to make any sense of that page. It seeHack (talk) 13:00, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Comment I think that the argument of consistency is important here or as stated you end up with a mess, where some articles use a suffix and some don't. Keith D (talk) 11:42, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose per standard naming conventions. GiantSnowman 09:38, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
• Oppose per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (sports teams). – PeeJay 15:28, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

• Comments - please provide proof that this "guideline" ever gained consensus. Hack (talk) 03:33, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (sports teams) and Wikipedia:Article titles (consistency). That being said, it is suggested in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (sports teams) that "The name is used on the English-language section of the club's official website" which in my (albeit limited) browsing I could not find so maybe not so clear cut. It strikes me that maybe this is not the ideal place for this discussion given the number of pages potentially impacted and the nature of the debate (which has often been not specific to Leeds). Macosal (talk) 05:05, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

• Comment - it's perfectly reasonable in a RM to question a guideline that runs counter to policy, especially when the content of that guideline is 1) not consistently applied, 2) the content of the guideline has been the subject of debate for a decade, 3) is someone's essay that shows no sign of consensus and 4) does not expressly mention the specific type of article being discussed. Hack (talk) 05:41, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

• Comment - I'm not saying it isn't, but it does seem like editors here are reluctant to contravene what is (purportedly, at least) a Wikipedia guideline. Maybe better to clear up whether the guideline is or isn't genuine/representative of consensus before continuing. Also given the precedent that this discussion would seem to create it may be more appropriate to have it somewhere more general. For the record, the guideline was originally taken from Wikipedia:Article titles, where it was originally a result of this quite lengthy discussion. Having read/skimmed the above discussion, it seems that it was originally created in order to clear up debates about whether non-English clubs should use their English or non-English names. As a result I would suggest that the policy was not necessarily intended to refer to situations such as this (that is, that discussion was clearly not attempting to address the issue of naming any clubs other than those from nations where English is not the official language). That being said, there is still a relevant consistency argument I think. Macosal (talk) 09:12, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

You are right that it might have originally referred to naming of clubs from non-English speaking countries, but I think it is clear that it has since been adapted to cover all forms of club names, regardless of the country of origin – hence the specific references to

• "Where an article is clearly about a particular sport you do not need to put a prefix or suffix (like RLFC, CCC or FK) throughout the article text but merely in the title. For example, FC Barcelona is the article name but throughout the body Barcelona is sufficient." – CCC is specific to British cricket clubs, and RLFC is a common English rugby league club suffix (not sure if it's used much abroad)
• "For North American teams, use both place and nicknames"

Number 57 10:25, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (sports teams). Additionally, this is a discussion that cannot simply be applied to one club. "F.C. / FC" style suffixes are used in thousands of articles. Fenix down (talk) 07:38, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: consensus to move the page to Leeds United F.C., per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 18:42, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

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Leeds United A.F.C. → Leeds United F.C. – Neither the club's playing name, nor corporate entity (Ken Bates' newco Leeds United Football Club Limited) any longer includes the "Association" word (therefore meaning "A.F.C" is redundant). This has been the case since 2007 when the old corporate entity, Leeds United Association Football Club Limited, liquidated. Proof if needed is available here from the FA's 2014-15 list of club's corporate and "playing name[s]" (see page 582)... http://www.thefa.com/~/media/files/thefaportal/governance-docs/rules-of-the-association/2014-15/fa-handbook-2014-complete.ashx I understand "AFC" still features on signage/seating in the stadium pre-dating 2007, however this alone does not justify an otherwise inaccurate name of this article. Gefetane (talk) 11:55, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

• Support' Per evidence provided (and the club's badge, which gives the initials as LUFC). Number 57 12:11, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
• Support no sign of AFC or f.c in text of home or contact page of website and as majority of content of Category:Premier_League_clubs. Other A.F.C. clubs there may be candidates for moves. Gregkaye ✍♪ 12:27, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. – Michael (talk) 21:06, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

• Support - appears to be the current name of the club. Note that the FA brochure the OP is using as 'evidence' is pointless, the name of the company that owns/runs the club is 100% irrelevant. See, for example, the 'The Huddersfield Town Association Football Club Limited' - yet we do not, and should not, have Huddersfield Town A.F.C. do we? GiantSnowman 17:41, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

• @GiantSnowman: I was of the impression that Huddersfield were an AFC. Indeed, their official website is at www.htafc.com (and the title of the website is "Official website of Huddersfield Town AFC"), whilst on Twitter, they hashtag themselves as #htafc. I was quite surprised to see the article is not at A.F.C. Seems like another moved request is needed. Number 57 17:47, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

• @Number 57: Fair point, bad example; what about 'Hyde United Association Football Club Limited' (Hyde A.F.C.) or 'The Queens Park Rangers Football & Athletic Club Limited' (Queens Park Rangers F.A.C.) etc. etc.? GiantSnowman 17:54, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

• Yes, you are right in that regards. The one I noticed that didn't look right was Altrincham A.F.C. Number 57 19:18, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 12 April 2015

Hello, Steve Thompson is no longer the assistant manager of Leeds United having been suspended. Source http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3023152/Leeds-United-suspend-assistant-manager-Steve-Thompson-pressure-grows-boss-Neil-Redfearn.html Danmarkdanny (talk) 21:58, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Done Jamietw (talk) 15:37, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

you probably already knew that LUFC stands for leeds united football club. If you look on the leeds badge you will see that right through the middle of it says LUFC, so if you have wondered what it means, (1919 foundation ) you now know. Leeds are best YEAH. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.210.159.209 (talk) 17:46, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

== Souleymane Doukara pledged allegiance to Senegal, not France. Should have the flag changed beside his name.

Les Cocker

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Leeds History updates

This is the link to their website to make the updates Leeds United History — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.45.101.158 (talk) 13:11, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

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. Switch existing references to use one of the {{Cite}} templates Requires copy edit for WP:MOS - e.g. date wikilinking in references & use of ordinals Keith D (talk) 14:45, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2016

Manager is now Gary Monk. 77.103.218.88 (talk) 11:58, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

 Done - although Garry Monk has 2 R's - Arjayay (talk) 12:22, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

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Current Champions

The Leeds are still the holders of the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup and I want that put on the lead. Not my fault it's stopped being played but it is valid silverware that all your Chelsea, Man Utd, Man City, WANKERS can never ever win. All think you're big clubs, well you ain't. We Are Super Leeds (talk) 21:06, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Obsolete trophy, Leeds were last champions, not "current holders". Blablabrbrbrbrbrbrhuhuhuhuhuh (talk) 18:53, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Garbage pal. Portsmouth held FA Cup longest because it was suspended during war years, then it carried on with Portsmouth as reigning champions. No World Cup (FIFA) in 1942 OR 1946 so 1938 champions were reigning champions until 1950, same principle mate. Leeds are European Fairs Cup champions, that's what it's gonna say in the history books if the competition is reintroduced tomorrow, OK? We Are Super Leeds (talk) 18:57, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

 Done. Twelve Bar Milkman (talk) 20:03, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Position Change

Leeds are actually now 6th in the champoinship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yb123 (talk • contribs) 12:26, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

I'm assuming you mean the 13th position field in the infobox? If so, this is a final position for the previous season. Kosack (talk) 12:44, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

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Gary Speed (2016 inductee), and Terry Yorath (2017 inductee)

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Semi-protected edit request on 25 May 2017

Infobox: The 2016–17 content needs to be changed from 7/24 to 7th as the other football club info boxes shows the place in the table instead of position out of number of teams in that division.
81.135.134.233 (talk) 17:40, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Done – Train2104 (t • c) 17:14, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Leeds Chairman

I was trying to find a category for those that have been chairman for Leeds, is there no cat? Also it can't be that long shouldn't there be a list of all the chairman on the main page? Govvy (talk) 20:51, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

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Would like to update the 'Stadium Tour Guide' from John McClelland to: 'Stadium Tour Guides: David Harthill, Owen Hickey, Matt Driver & Kev George'. Thanks Throstlebower26 (talk) 23:26, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Also if these people are not public figures the inclusion of their names in this article isn't recommended. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 18:30, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

New logo/crest

So on Twitter today the club officially unveiled their new crest which is supposed to give them a new and fresh start. https://twitter.com/LUFC/status/956134990638596097 More about it: https://www.leedsunited.com/news/club-news/22925/a-new-era-for-leeds-united-introducing-our-new-crest-from-2018-19 Skoen (talk) 13:47, 24 January 2018 (UTC)