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*On an entirely different note, pings don't work unless you sign on the very edit you are successfully transcluding the ping template.If you are correcting a botched ping template, you have to resign on a new line. [[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">''Winged Blades''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">Godric</span>]]</sup> 11:14, 24 January 2018 (UTC) |
*On an entirely different note, pings don't work unless you sign on the very edit you are successfully transcluding the ping template.If you are correcting a botched ping template, you have to resign on a new line. [[User:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">''Winged Blades''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Winged Blades of Godric|<span style= "color:green">Godric</span>]]</sup> 11:14, 24 January 2018 (UTC) |
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Hi ::{{ping|Winged Blades of Godric}}! Oh gosh, I can hardly see straight after all the time I spent on this. I've tried so very hard to fix this properly to the very best of my ability using your recommendations and criticisms as well as those from previous editors. I have added a few new sources that I was able to find and I did also put back a few others that I feel are still relevant and believe should be able to stand up more closely to scrutiny since the draft is shortened and much more concise. I hope you will agree and I'd like to thank you for all the time you must have spent on your last edit. After reading through the [[WP:MUSICBIO]] very closely again, I submit that the subject of this draft should meet the notability guidelines on the following merits: |
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1- Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart. |
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2- Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country. |
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3- Has received coverage of international tour in at least one sovereign country. |
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4- Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels. |
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5- Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film |
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6- Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network. |
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7- Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network. |
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Kindest Regards and thanks for all your help, Stefan [[User:Bruinsects|Bruinsects]] ([[User talk:Bruinsects#top|talk]]) 11:01, 25 January 2018 (UTC) |
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Recent edit to Russell Simmons
Hello. I noticed that you made an edit to a biography of a living person (Russell Simmons), but that you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source. Wikipedia has a strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! Seraphim System (talk) 09:26, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
Your draft composition Draft:Ian Erix
I thank you for your faith and respect in me and towards Wikipedia community. You suggested me to review the draft page that you created about a popular musician due to the high backlog in the AFC submissions. I should say you that I am not supposed to review draft pages which are kept for AFC submissions as I am not a member of the AFC group but I am just a new page patroller. AFC draft reviewing is completely different from new page patrolling (article mainspaces). As I am not a part of AFC team, it would be risky if I try to review your article by approving it. I hope you got it. Abishe (talk) 12:12, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
- @Abishe: Thank you so much for your reply. I am only just starting to learn some of this as a new Wikpedian and I am grateful for your guidance and apologize for misunderstanding as I thought New Page Reviewers could assist on something like this. Is there someone else you can recommend that I can contact who is part of the AFC team that I might be able to ask for help because I understand there is an extremely severe backlog and it could be many months of waiting if I don't reach out? Thank you very much. Stefan Bruinsects (talk) 10:31, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- Hi, I thank you for understanding the differences between a NPR and AFC reviewer. But, I apologise to you as I couldn't help you out in this situation. You can also ask questions in the AFC help desk, which I used to clarify my doubts at past. If you want to contact any member of the AFC group see AFC participants list, it would be grateful to you as they are well experienced than me in English Wikipedia. By the way, I thank you for your contributions and good luck for the future. Thanks Abishe (talk) 12:02, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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Abishe (talk) 12:02, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Ian Erix (January 21)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ian Erix (January 23)
- If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Ian Erix and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
- If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Ian Erix, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{db-self}}" at the top of the draft text and save.
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- I concur with Chetsford in his entirety.
- If you have any queries as to my removal of non-reliable sources, feel free to ask for individual assesments.
- Please note that blogs, PR pieces, fansites and websites with dubious editorial practices are not RS.
- And, please see the edit summaries of my edits.Winged BladesGodric 11:49, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
- On more definitive notes, w.r.t to your comments, I will try to provide a rebuttal as to why the subject fails NMUSIC:--
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He has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable and independent of the musician himself.
and4-Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country.
andHas performed music for a work of media that is notable.
- You wrote
- Nah...Basically, the trio reflects how meeting our our gen notab. guidelines could lead to WP articles.After my cleanup of sources that were either plainly un-reliable (Wordpress blogs etc.) or covered the subject too non-trivially (Dubai Red-Diamond-Award paragraph, being a prime example), there's nothing but two/three pieces covering him/his work.And, I can assure you that those alone won't save the article from being deleted at an AFD.
- You wrote
Has had a single on a country's national music chart.
- Spotify/itune records don't matter (except as ornamental non-promotional additions to a subject, who is notable, even excluding those peaks).Also, AFAIK, the song shall be in the top 10-20 at national charts.And, please source music chart record(s) per the general advice at WP:CHART.
- You wrote
3-Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country.
- See the edit-summary at this edit.Some clarification would be helpful:)
- You wrote
Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network.
andHas been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network.
- As to the former, this doesn't mean that appearing in a MTV show will automatically lead to a WP article. I don't find how he satisfies the latter.
- Regards:) And happy editing! Winged BladesGodric 14:06, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
- On an entirely different note, pings don't work unless you sign on the very edit you are successfully transcluding the ping template.If you are correcting a botched ping template, you have to resign on a new line. Winged BladesGodric 11:14, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
Hi ::@Winged Blades of Godric:! Oh gosh, I can hardly see straight after all the time I spent on this. I've tried so very hard to fix this properly to the very best of my ability using your recommendations and criticisms as well as those from previous editors. I have added a few new sources that I was able to find and I did also put back a few others that I feel are still relevant and believe should be able to stand up more closely to scrutiny since the draft is shortened and much more concise. I hope you will agree and I'd like to thank you for all the time you must have spent on your last edit. After reading through the WP:MUSICBIO very closely again, I submit that the subject of this draft should meet the notability guidelines on the following merits:
1- Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.
2- Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country.
3- Has received coverage of international tour in at least one sovereign country.
4- Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels.
5- Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film
6- Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network.
7- Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network.
Kindest Regards and thanks for all your help, Stefan Bruinsects (talk) 11:01, 25 January 2018 (UTC)