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Rush Soccer Page

Hello sir, I recently created a page about a non profit organization called Rush Soccer. Here is the link that was valid when the article was created. My article was denied for copyrights infringements and deleted afterwards before I had time to fix the matters in question. Is there a way to restore the page and fix the few sentences that needed to be fix ? The sentences in question were taken out of one of the non profit organization subsidiary website. Thank you for your time. Best -- Pelo1007 (talk) 06:50, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Text emailed. Please note: <br> is very rarely needed with wiki markup and we never bracket section headings with ''' . Txet emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 01:05, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Cezar Habeanu

Hello, I created a page (which took me too long time) for a musician Cezar Habeanu which is already deleted so and I can't put the link to as you thought that "the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia." Could you please clarify and give an existing example of a page where an article actually says why this particular musician should be in the encyclopedia? What you do looks just like hooliganism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kurmanna (talk • contribs)

You do not deserve it: you put your message in the wrong place, you accuse me of hooliganism and you make the ridiculous statement that you cannot provide a link. Did you see the previous contributor's carefully worded "here is the link that was valid when the article was created"? Please read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 01:05, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

UPE

This. — John from Idegon (talk) 02:03, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

You can't get more laconic than that! Count yourself lucky I bothered to decode your words. .—.— RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:52, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Shea Chambers Deleted

Hello,

It was brought to my attention that you were one of several people who had deleted Wiki pages on Shea Chambers: [1]. We would like to know what the reasons were for the deletions. Thanks, Jerry Holden, Chairman/CEO TYAD Media Corp Inc

(talk page stalker)This account has been blocked as a promotional account with a promotional username. It is also blockable as an impersonation of Shea Chambers, as a group account supposedly used by a group of Chambers' fans (see the talk page of the account), and as an account used for undisclosed paid editing by one or more TYAD Media Corp and TYAD Music Group Inc personnel in blatant violation of our Terms of Service. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:10, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

If you had read the deletion log entry instead of copying it here, you would know the deletion reason. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:52, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Deleted Draft:Medhananda

Dear RHaworth in January 2018 I requested the undeletion of my old Draft:Medhananda (which had been deleted in May 2017 because I had not been able to work on its improvement for 6 months for personal reasons). It did this request according to the guidelines on Wikipedia:Request for Undeletion/G13. And RickinBaltimore restored the page Draft:Medhananda on the 21 Jan 2018, 15:12. On the same day in the evening 21:24 it was again deleted by you telling I should follow the instructions on the above mentioned Wikipedia:Request for Undeletion/G13, i.e. the same I had followed already. I am quite puzzled by this now and in doubt what to do next. Thanks, GoldenerBall GoldenerBall (talk) 10:39, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

PS I am not able to give you a Wikilink to the Draft (as you request above in "wikify!"), because I can not find the deleted Draft:Medhananda anywhere. So, please excuse me for this. — GoldenerBall

"Not able to give you a wikilink"! You appear to have read my "Wikify!" message. Did you see the words "a link to the page that tells you I did the deletion". Please reply. Re your draft: it is the fault of RickinBaltimore (talk · contribs) - he restored the page but left the speedy tag in place. Restored again. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:52, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

My apologies, forgot to take that out! RickinBaltimore (talk) 20:53, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

National Alliance for Public Charter Schools

Hello -- I am interested to author an article on NAPCS. I can start fresh, or rely on your account of why the article was deleted and ask for a refund. What's the story? — Rhadow (talk) 16:53, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

I saw it was written by a COI. I went ahead and redid it from scratch. Not to worry. — Rhadow (talk) 19:23, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

COI is an attribute - it cannot write. Please use proper English and say "editor with a CoI". I have restored the original as well. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:52, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Retrieving a deleted page

Hi RHaworth, a page I created, viz. Department of Infrastructure and Industrial Development (Uttar Pradesh), was deleted by you in the past August, because of it being a copyright violation, which it ever so clearly was. However, can you userfy the page? So that I can republish it after removing the copyvio, as recreating the article from scratch would be a pain in the a**. The article on Department of IID was deleted when I was relatively new to this, since then, I have created more than a dozen pages, including numerous BLPs. I have also gained the extendedconfirmed, pendingchanges and rollback rights, so I think I now understand WP's policies fairly well now.
Regards, SshibumXZ (Talk) (Contributions). 21:39, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

A copyvio is still a copyvio in user space. Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:49, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Got it. Thank you!
Regards, SshibumXZ (Talk) (Contributions). 17:38, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Why did you shutdown my page?

My country has the name of Adamburg. Your argument of that this does not belong on wikipedia is wrong, due too the fact that their are many more micro-nations on wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adma2618 (talk • contribs)

(kibitzer) The other micronations have articles because there are newspapers or other reliable sources talking about them. Yours doesn't, so it does not merit a page. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:27, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Btplforever

Looks like this user you blocked back in December didn't get the hint and now needs their talk page access blocked. Thanks. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 12:52, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Reblocked. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:49, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

A small molehill

I have been taking an amateur interest in socks of late and this is a brief record of my learning process today. List of Argentine Nobel laureates was speedied - G5 - by the same user who had earlier sent it to AfD, where it survived. Nothing wrong with that. The creator of the article - User:Magipur - was duly blocked and tagged by your good self as a sock of User:Sulthan ameer. The timings seem OK for G5, so it's goodbye to this otherwise harmless List.

However, I noticed that 'Magipur' is not found in:

There is a link to User talk:RHaworth/2016 Jun 02 and it is clear that this block was intentional and it is likely that somewhere there is some record of Magipur's malfeasance but I can't see any obvious evidence of this. To be clear, I am not suggesting he wasn't a sock - but I am wondering what I might have missed for future reference.

Having trawled through this labyrinth I am not really expecting you to know offhand or waste your time enlightening me unless this is trivially simple. However when I ccome across WP:SPI stuff I can't follow I like keeping a record of some kind. I'll park it elsewhere if here is inconvenient. Ben Mac Dui 14:53, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

He is listed in Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Sulthan ameer. I did not feel it necessary to request checkuser checks to be done. I have trawled through the labyrinth myself and it does appear that I blocked him on rather thin grounds: he created Gustakhi Maaf and Gunda (1969 film) both of which had previously been created by user:Akash Guhathakurta. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:49, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for looking. For some reason I had missed the existence of Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets and it's sub-cats. I am finding these 'behavioural' analyses very tricky and if there is any kind of training manual I have overlooked that as well. Ben Mac Dui 17:11, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

A manual? No, learn on the job. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:59, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Restore

Hi RHaworth, can SV OSS '20 and VV Goes be restored? Seems the Dutch Hoofdklasse and the participating teams have to be discussed over and over. In July 2017 a dozen pages or so were deleted or nominated for deletion. In the end none of the pages got deleted. Right now, of the 64 teams, all have a club/team page, except the 2 mentioned. The person who proposed speedy deletion didn't even bother to contact someone about these pages and just proposed. Not a very constructive attitude. Of course I don't know what was exactly on these 2 pages, but if it was a lack sources, it's easy to find plenty and can be corrected if needed. However, to just delete these pages without any discussion is kinda ridiculous. -- Sb008 (talk) 22:27, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

One reason I deleted was because you had shouted both titles. I note your dubious claim that Oss is a backronym but you had no excuse for shouting Goes. Restored to Draft:VV Goes and Draft:SV Oss '20. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:59, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Both are acronyms, GOES (Gezamenlijk Opwaarts Eendrachtig Sterk/Together Upwards Unified Strong). OSS (Oefening Staalt Spieren/Practice Hardens Muscles), both acronyms resulting in the town name the club is located. The official name of both teams (not uncommon for Dutch football teams) is in full caps. Compare it to NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) or UNICEF (United Nations Children's Fund), no one will write Nato or Unicef. Even spell checkers indicate it as incorrect. --Sb008 (talk) 13:35, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Why stop at those two? Go on: create backronyms for Meerssen, Nuenen, Vlissingen and lots more in that klasse. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:32, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Pippi Långstrump

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pippi Longstocking (2020 TV series). When you deleted Pippi Longstocking (2020 TV series), you forgot to close the corresponding AfD. — LaundryPizza03 (talk) 01:27, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

{{Non-admin closure}} was created with you in mind. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:32, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Restoring of page Udaya Sankar

I got a message that the page Udaya sankar has been deleted by you. I had created with URL www.wikipedia.org/udaya_sankar Udaya Sankar is a well known movie director who has directed more than 6 movies in Tamil and Telugu language. The current wiki page wrongly credits his movie to a different director with the name K. R. Udhayashankar. That is why I created this page. Request you to do the needful to restore the page. Regards Ram — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2rams (talk • contribs)

Don't be ridiculous: it is impossible for you to create a page with a URL of www.wikipedia.org/udaya_sankar . So - write a proper wikibio about the guy and sumbit it via AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:32, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

- - - Currently all works of Uday Sankar are credited to a different director with the same name K.R. Udaya Sankar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K._R._Udhayashankar How to rectify this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2rams (talk • contribs) 10:56, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Jowinvp

Pages blanked and speedy delete requested by author User:Jowinvp multiple times. I thought of writing to you of the page Geevarghese Yakoob Kathanar as well as his family page Pattamukkil family, that were both blanked and requested speedy deletion (G7) by author User:Jowinvp that you had deleted now. The first article was effectively a 90% copy-paste of another WP article, with partial change of names and dates/years. References provided were plenty but irrelevant, were quite generic ones on the history of larger community or geographic place and had nothing to do with subject. Therefore, I had put some effort to clean up both articles, so a bit sad to see that both article are gone by now. I would not have made the effort, if this was the author's intention (almost predictable from his WP history). In fact, I realized that it is not the first time. Both pages were created and speedy-deleted (G7) earlier also. He has done similar actions in Malayalam Wikipedia for the same subjects in spite of multiple notices, to the effect that the ML-WP admins had to enforce a ban on his edits since 21-May-2017. I wrote of this on his user talk and article talk pages, but he has a habit of blanking talk pages on articles, which is in fact a violation of WP:TPG. I request you to take notice of such non-standard activity and act as appropriate to warn/guide the user. — Sahrudayan (talk) 16:38, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Just saw that he has blanked his talk page again, so all my comments there are gone. WP admins please take note. — Sahrudayan (talk) 16:40, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

I also request you to please restore the Talk pages of the respective articles that you have deleted. Because, given the WP history (both EN and ML) of this user (who also operates with IP addresses such as 202.83.42.46 or 202.83.42.118), I expect that the same articles will re-surface after some months and if that happens, the editors should be allowed to notice those discussions.— Sahrudayan (talk) 16:51, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Pattamukkil family had a longer deletion + restore cycle history as can be seen in Wikipedia_talk:Articles for creation/Pattamukkil Family. Arguably, the same user has been requesting blanking each time. — Sahrudayan (talk) 18:03, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

See user talk:Jowinvp#Block. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:32, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Emotional Speech Blocks Deletion Syndrome

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You deleted my page Draft:Kip Sperry

Will you kindly send me the text and give me clear guidance as to what needs to be done to get this set up? I'm being paid to do this so the sooner you can the better. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blonde mike (talk • contribs)

Please read this. I wonder if the words significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject suggest anything to you. If an award is notable enough to have a Wikipedia article about it, then you may mention in a bio that the subject has received that award. Otherwise don't mention it. That probably means that the whole of your Awards section should be deleted. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:46, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Aceing

You deleted a page of mine cause you thought im an inactive user when im not. User:Aceing Winter Snows Harsh Cold/sandbox. I'm not an inactive user!!!!!!!! — Aceing Winter Snows Harsh Cold (talk) 05:28, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Noted and I hope Legacypac will note as well. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:46, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

I can't find the deletion reason or any record of me handling the page. If it was important it can be restored. Sorry for any trouble. Legacypac (talk) 09:36, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Template:Z

Hello RHaworth. Would you consider dropping protection on Template:Z down to template editor? It seems DePiep would like to make use of it. — GMG ^talk 22:25, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry to have you involved with this. I only wanted to ping you, because I saw your recent creation blocking (Jan 5, 2018), good reason I get. For now, I only wanted to "claim the name Template:Z" (datestamped!), and later on request actual creation. -DePiep (talk) 22:54, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

There is no concept in Wikipedia of claiming a name. Develop your template in draft space. Create an example of its use and come to me and I will move it to the proper name. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:46, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes I understand this very well. Is what I said, while claiming a datestamp ;-) — and nothing more.

I also clealy said that I'd use the name when appropriate, Puh-lease. -DePiep (talk) 01:19, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

I’m concerned that someone who made up a new rule that makes no sense and keeps making a spectacle of themselves trying to get others to go along with it even has the template editor right. Beeblebrox (talk) 02:53, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

DePiep, could you explain exactly what "claiming a datestamp" means? Everyone is trying to help you, but before that happens we need to know what you want to do. ansh 666 04:09, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher)Hmm...There exists a draft-space where you could develop the proposed version of the sought template.I fail to see any rational explanation of your antics save that either your acc. is compromised or that you are fearing about some rogue sysop copying your hard-work from the draft-space and creating the template under his own user-ID, thus depriving you of being etched in wiki-history as the template-creator!.Winged Blades^Godric 16:09, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Creation of 47.184.179.113

This was removed on the wrong reason. I would like to keep this article to redirect users to the correct page which is, as my IP was not registered. — User:Quile78 Quile78 (talk) 23:57, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

You clearly have no concept of namespaces. 47.184.179.113 if that is what you are talking about, is in the article namespace where it is only allowed if it describes some notable concept. I have given you user:47.184.179.113 which is in the correct namespace. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:46, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Huh?

I'm curious why you undid my G6 request on User tak:Jgstokes/Archive 10. The archive is correctly placed at User talk:Jgstokes/Archive 10. Why do you want to keep a copy in a non-existent namespace? Cabayi (talk) 12:30, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Draft: Jose Raymond

You just deleted Draft:Jose Raymond at my request as G4. It was created by User:Hypnodarky. My question now is who was the author of Jose Raymond. My question is whether there is sockpuppetry and/or undisclosed paid editing. (More precisely, I think that my question is who are the undisclosed paid editors and sockpuppets, since it looks like their work. Yuck.) Robert McClenon (talk) 19:52, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Principles for Digital Development

Hi there - just to let you know that I've now recreated the page, without the use of CC BY-SA 4.0 materials. Many thanks! Bjohas (talk) 19:59, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

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 You just deleted [[Draft:Jose Raymond]] at my request as [[WP:G4|G4]].  It was created by [[User:Hypnodarky]].  My question now is who was the author of [[Jose Raymond]].  My question is whether there is [[WP:SOCK|sockpuppetry]] and/or [[WP:UPE|undisclosed paid editing]].  (More precisely, I think that my question is who are the undisclosed paid editors and sockpuppets, since it looks like their work.  Yuck.)  [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 19:52, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
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+Hi there - just to let you know that I've now recreated the page, without the use of CC BY-SA 4.0 materials. Many thanks! [[User:Bjohas|Bjohas]] ([[User talk:Bjohas|talk]]) 19:59, 31 January 2018 (UTC)