Talk:Total Nonstop Action Wrestling

There's no need for a "recent happenings" section. It's almost guaranteed to be out of date most of the time. This is an encyclopedia, not a news site. Listing the current titleholders is enough. - Gwalla 03:20, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)

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Could somebody who knows more about TNA wrestlers contribute some bios for them? There are a lot of red links in the Current Titleholders. — Gwalla | Talk 20:56, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Move

This article has been renamed after the result of a move request. Posted for discussion. No opposition given. Dragons flight 22:07, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Possible WikiProject

Currently there is a project for professional wrestling. Other subjects have sub-subjects and further. I suggest that we create a new Wikiproject: Wikipedia:WikiProject TNA.

WP TNA would be dedicated to cleaning up and organizing the pages regarding TNA Wrestling as an organization, the TNA title belt pages, and the pages of many of the wrestlers (for example, AMW's wiki has little more than the fact that they are in TNA). It would also provide more detailed summaries for the monthly pay-per-views. --Kitch 18:06, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Thats a great idea. I would be willing to help.--Racer38 11:30, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Done.I created it.lol. 18:52, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Not a member of the NWA

TNA was never a member of the NWA. it only acquired the rights to the titles. so it never withdrew from the NWA. cause it was never in the NWA.

• BZZZZZZT!!!! Wrong answer! Game over! Thank you for playing. Until early 2004, they were known as "NWA: Total Nonstop Action". In fact, for some reason, the official National Wrestling Alliance website [1] still links to the old NWA: TNA domain, www.nwatna.com, even though it goes to a squatter site now. --Kitch 12:55, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Kitch is right. The NWA President at the time even made an appearance on the third pay-per-view. McPhail 15:01, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Good news involving images

The entire TNA picture archive on TNApics.com has been made available officially for use in Wikipedia. I got the word personally from Marcus Cygy, the man who runs the site. I have been uploading these pictures previously on Fair Use rationale, but now that we have express permission, I have created a new Template for all TNA photos from the TNApics website, "TNA-photo".

Lets get these articles illustrated! --Kitch 12:15, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

I noticed that you recently created a TNA photo template. The template says that express permission is given to use these photos on Wikipedia. Unfortunately, this license seems to fall under Template:copyrighted which is no longer accepted for images. These images may fall under fair use using the promotional photo tag, so the template could be changed to a fair use one like Template:DisneyAttractionPoster or Template:TIME. --Jtalledo (talk) 13:40, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

I modified the photo tag. Tell me what you think of it. --Kitch 18:41, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Whoa... great job! Thanks. --Jtalledo (talk) 18:45, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Can anyone find a picture of the iMPACT! Zone to add to TNA iMPACT! Zone, one had been on there previously but removed Aceboy 06:36, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Chris Candido Memorial Tournament

The article for TNA notes that Shelley and Waltman won the tournament itself, but fails to note that Waltman never showed up to claim his prize - a shot at the world tag team champions The Naturals. Should this be updated? BronzeWarrior 08:52, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

I went ahead and added this information; hopefully no one objects. BronzeWarrior 10:38, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Disputed section

"The promotion is regarded as the closest, but still distant competitor to World Wrestling Entertainment. Despite this, some wrestling fans prefer TNA over WWE, citing TNA's focus on wrestling over storylines."

This section is npov and an example of weasel words. "Some wrestling fans" is not an acceptable phrasing. In addition, saying that TNA has a "focus on wrestling over storylines" is also subjective. McPhail 22:07, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Legit section. McPhail is a n00b.

The section is not legitimate. "The promotion is regarded as the closest, but still distant competitor to World Wrestling Entertainment". Regarded by who? How do you know what people regard the promotion was? Secondly, "citing TNA's focus on wrestling over storylines." How do you know why "they" prefer TNA to WWE? Moreover, this seem as clumsy attempt to paint TNA as a "wrestling company" and WWE as a "storyline company". I very much doubt that WWE would embrace this label, or has ever openly claimed to focus on storylines over wrestling. For this paragraph to stand as it is at present then you'd need to cite sources showing (a) that wrestling fans regard TNA as the closest competitor to WWE, (b) that they prefer TNA for the reasons stated and (c) that WWE is more storyline based than TNA. McPhail 09:14, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Actually, I added the section to the lead. The blurb was originally added to the History section by Eclipse McMahon, but after I deleted it Eclipse McMahon reverted it citing "vandalism." After a subsequent discussion on Eclipse McMahon's talk page, Eclipse McMahon added a section which was clearly POV and also uncited, so to end the edit war I rewrote it and added it to the lead. I tried to sound as neutral as possible while trying to state facts, but I guess it still didn't come across as neutral. --Jtalledo (talk) 19:29, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

The owners of TNA Wrestling....

From what I've read, Panda Energy International & Jeff Jarrett own TNA. Jeff's father, Jerry, sold his ownership to Panda Energy, but Jeff hasn't. Also, I read somewhere that Dixie Carter, the President of TNA Entertainment LLC, has admitted that she ISN'T the owner of TNA Wrestling. So, that's why I made the changes in that small box below the TNA logo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.162.68.235 (talk • contribs) 16:50, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Yep, supposedly she said that on an Internet radio show called "Monday Night Mayhem." Archives are supposedly available at Audiowrestling.com. It would be great if someone could listen to the show and make an appropriate citation. --Jtalledo (talk) 21:48, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, I listened to the show and at one point, she says "I'm the President of the company, not the owner".

According to Steve Gerweck's site, Panda Energy (via Bob and Janice Carter) own the controlling stake in TNA Wrestling. Dixie has no ownership (perhaps she will through inheritance), but is only the President right now. Jeff Jarrett still owns his minority stake in the company. Clint 07:33, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Title Changes, DQ, and Count Out

I have never seen a champion in TNA who has ever lost a title in TNA because count out or DQ. In fact, all of the matches that I have seen that have wrestlers going in-and- out of the ring for long periods of time or using weapons such as chairs, trash cans, tables, ect. have never ended in a DQ or count out, therefore I think we should remove that portion of the article from the top. -anonymous

D'Lo Brown and Apolo won the tag titles via DQ in April 2004 [2]. The rule is admittedly inconsistently applied, but the same is true of the WWE "30 day rule", etc. McPhail 18:44, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Kid Kash and Lance Hoyt won the titles back by DQ as well... Clint 15:28, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

It is known that the referees in TNA Wrestling are much more lenient than WWE referees as they allow more things. It takes something very illegal to end a match. Another well known idea in TNA Wrestling is that should a wrestler interfere in a match, the match will be a No Contest not a DQ finish.

TNA Specialty Matches

Would it be alright to add a TNA Specialty Match Section on the Main Wikipedia TNA Page. Ring of Honor has one and I think TNA should as well. They could add sections on Ultimate X, Six Sides of Steel, King of the Mountain, Barbed Wire Massacre, House of Fun etc. In each section they could describe the match, the history of the match and Wrestler's win/loss records in these matches which should include photos.

Just had to get that idea off of my mind.

There is already a Category. 88.107.200.124 19:51, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

I think that a sections should be added to Wikipedia in one page so someone doesn't have to go through all of these links to get it

Fan Chants

On the ECW page, they have a section for fan chants. I had an idea to create something like that on the TNA page. Would anyone else be against this idea? Would anyone be for this idea? Either way I would like to know.
fishhead2100 April 29, 2006 3:51AM (UTC)

Concerning the company infobox...

How will we know who owns the company? I mean, we know that Panda Energy International owns 71%, while Jeff Jarrett owns 29%, but no one figures to put THAT info in the infobox.

Do you have a source for those figures? I'm no longer certain that there are only two shareholders; Jerry Jarrett seems to have retained some sort of interest. McPhail 16:08, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, just check the page for Panda Energy International and you'll see the figures there.

Other Wikipedia articles are not suitable sources, per Wikipedia:Citing sources. McPhail 23:16, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

TNA Video Game

I am a big supported of Nintendo and plan to get the Wii on the day it comes out, but I have seen no referances to the TNA video game coming out on Wii. Whoever put that part in should provide some evidence of that. TJ Spyke 22:35, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Please consult the link to IGN.com in the relevant article. McPhail 00:10, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

TNA Wrestling Ownership...

Shouldn't Panda Energy International and Jeff Jarrett be listed as the owners, since that's who owns TNA? As far as I know, Panda Energy International (via Robert & Janice Carter) is the majority (71%) owner of TNA, while Double J is the minority (29%) owner. I mean, PEI and JJ are the key people in TNA.

Panda Energy are shareholders; to the best if my knowledge, they have little to do with the day to day operation of TNA. I'm not entirely sure that the above percentages are spot on, as I think Jerry Jarrett might still have some shares as well. McPhail 18:45, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Dixie Carter is the only one from Panda Energy actually involved with TNA. She is their representative so to speak. As for Jerry Jarrett, I'm under the impression that he is no longer part owner. --JFred 19:11, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Jeff Jarrett

A question about this "Jeff Jarrett ... was unable to find work with the McMahons (allegedly because he blackmailed Vince McMahon for a large sum of money to wrestle a single match after his contract expired while he held the WWF Intercontinental Championship in 1999). [1]"

From what I have read he didn't blackmail the McMahons, he simply got the money that was owed to him (PPV, merchandise, etc) paid up front rather than waiting the months it usually takes, so I would hardly call this blackmail. This is reported on PWInsider.com http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=7575&p=1. What is everyone's opinion on this, is this still blackmail? Aceboy 06:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Chyna claimed in her book that Jarrett blackmailed McMahon, which is about as close to an official source as we're likely to get. McPhail 16:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

There have been other sources as well that claim that Jarrett demanded extra money to drop the title at No Mercy. TJ Spyke 23:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Jeff Jarrett would not have minded dropping the title to a guy who was qualified, most reports indicate that he did not want to drop the title to a girl, so he high balled the WWE. WWE could not have another incident like the Alundra Blayze/WWE Womens Championship/WCW again, so they accepted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.170.20.87 (talk • contribs)

I don't think it had anything to do with Chyna being a girl. Jarrett had no intention of signing with WWF again(hence the reason he didn't sign a new contract) and he knew Vince would not want him to take the title to WCW, that's why he blackmailed Vince and why Vince never employed him again(and Jarrett had to start his own promotion after WCW and WWA folded). TJ Spyke 19:50, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

TNA Xplosion

There seems to be no mention of TNA Xplosion on this page, which was their first TV show. Does somebody know the history of the show, I am pretty sure it was used to sell the early weekly PPVs, so we can mention this important part of the company Aceboy 06:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

There's not much to mention since it is only a syndicated show(which from what i've heard is only available in Florida and maybe a few other areas). TJ Spyke 23:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

TNA Xplosion appears on The Wrestling Channel, so is broadbast in the UK and Ireland as well. Should also be noted that the international versions of iMPACT! are sometimes edited to contain Xplosion matches. I think Xplosion needs a mention. White43 16:26, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Proper Grammar

I think there should always be a dash (-) in anything involving an "X" in TNA Wrestling. I typed the reasons why in the TNA X Cup discussion page and I don't want to type it all again. Please just click on the TNA X Cup link and go to the discussion page to see why I think there should be a dash. Hopefully it won't all be deleted by somebody. I think you'll agree with me in my reasons.

iMPACT!

Hm... there seems to be a little too much detail on the TNA iMPACT! program in the business model section - it should be trimmed down since detailed info is in the article about the program. --Jtalledo (talk) 00:30, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

See Also

I added TNA iMPACT to the see also section since that is their flagship show. JAY HARPER 03:20, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Growth as a company

Has TNA grown at all as a company, does it even stand to gain anything with WWE controlling the majority of the market? --Asososocrates 08:08, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Talent in TNA

It would seem like a large part of TNA's talent has been created by other organizations. WWE, ECW and WCW. I really see little or no talent that TNA has beeb able to create themselves.