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ELF is not Globish

Header added 06:08, 9 August 2010 (UTC).

ELF is not, nor will it ever be, Globish (though the project has its attractions). Cf. Dell Hymes, Ethnogenesis, Creolization ... Trachys (talk) 15:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I do not see the mistakes listed on this page though many writers are not native English speakers. (Sorry for my 100% original research soapboxing.) Andries (talk) 18:06, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I got say as native speak person: I hear much foreign people speak gooder English than many my fellow English people do. I hear even BBC talkers drop indefinite/definite article and often to also be use split infinitive. Also they often not know when should use who or whom and many use 'you and I' after transitive verb instead of 'you and me'. My foreign friend say following opinion:

THE BBC seems to have become THE worst offender in what feels like A concerted effort to force this ELF (aka. Ameringlish) nonsense on the world. Their abuse of THE English language grows worse every year.

Sometimes today BBC sound like East Europe person reading programs/news/shows. Is gone crazy world I thinks. ;)

81.107.245.123 (talk) 01:55, 5 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"3rd person singular zero"?

At the moment, the following is listed as one of the features of ELF: "use of 3rd person singular zero, as in you look very sad and he looks very sad". Can someone explain (or, if needed, correct) this? 217.255.102.219 (talk) 09:26, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

" 'Best' Accents "

According to Anna Mauranen, after four ranks about Correctness, Acceptability, Pleasantness, and Familiarity, the result shows that UK and US English had the highest rate overall. Specifically, UK English is assessed higher than US English in correctness and pleasantness; similar in international acceptability. "The respondents were willing to rate certain accents very negatively or, conversely, very positively despite also stating that they were unfamiliar with these accents, thus demonstrating that stereotyping was in some way involved in their evaluations."^[1]

Entry name: Capitalization

It seems to me that the entry name needs to in capitals: ELF is the acronym and English as a Lingua Franca is the established name, see, e.g. Jenkins' 2015 textbook. Not sure why the lower-case version is used... 20:10, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

^ editors; Mauranen, Anna; Ranta, Elina (2009). English as a lingua franca : studies and findings (1. publ ed.). Newcastle: Cambridge Scholars. ISBN 978-1-4438-1296-2. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); |last1= has generic name (help)

[1] tors; Mauranen, Anna; Ranta, Elina (2009). English as a lingua franca : studies and findings (1. publ ed.). Newcastle: Cambridge Scholars. ISBN 978-1-4438-1296-2. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); |last1= has generic name (help)

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 == " 'Best' Accents " ==
 According to Anna Mauranen, after four ranks about Correctness, Acceptability, Pleasantness, and Familiarity, the result shows that UK and US English had the highest rate overall. Specifically, UK English is assessed higher than US English in correctness and pleasantness; similar in international acceptability. "The respondents were willing to rate certain accents very negatively or, conversely, very positively despite also stating that they were unfamiliar with these accents, thus demonstrating that stereotyping was in some way involved in their evaluations."<ref>{{cite book|last1=editors|last2=Mauranen|first2=Anna|last3=Ranta|first3=Elina|title=English as a lingua franca : studies and findings|date=2009|publisher=Cambridge Scholars|location=Newcastle|isbn=978-1-4438-1296-2|edition=1. publ|accessdate=10 February 2017}}</ref>
+== Entry name: Capitalization ==
+It seems to me that the entry name needs to in capitals: ELF is the acronym and English as a Lingua Franca is the established name, see, e.g. Jenkins' 2015 textbook. Not sure why the lower-case version is used... 20:10, 15 February 2018 (UTC)