Talk:Australia

Representative democracy

Someone added the term a while ago both here and the Canada article. It was reverted in the past day. First, it was done with no comment and then because it "is too broad a term and is often subjective and up to different interpretations". I restored it, but feel free to discuss it and make your own mind up as to whether it's appropriate for the infobox or not. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:40, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

There was some discussion about this earlier this year, see Talk:Australia/Archive 19#Australia a "representative democracy". --Canley (talk) 21:31, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Culture

The Culture section seems to be lacking any real content about approach to governance. Need a paragraph like at Canada.--Moxy (talk) 15:15, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Canada's approach to governance emphasizing multiculturalism, which is based on selective immigration, social integration, and suppression of far-right politics, has wide public support. Government policies such as publicly funded health care, higher taxation to redistribute wealth, the outlawing of capital punishment, strong efforts to eliminate poverty, strict gun control, and the legalization of same-sex marriage are further social indicators of Canada's political and cultural values.Canadians also identify with the country's health care institutions, peacekeeping, the National park system and the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

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Portuguese, first Europeans to discover Australia

Hi all, Can anyone tell me the proves of dutch (i cant find any map, document and military or artifacts and linguistics influence remnants that mention that so obvious and certificate discover by dutch and of English (because one think is discover other is conquer).

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teoria_da_descoberta_da_Austr%C3%A1lia_pelos_portugueses — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.93.5.251 (talk) 22:15, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, the point you are trying to make is unclear. Hazarding a guess from the heading, why don't you read some of the relevant articles on and linked from English WP? Then if you have some actual suggestions for improvements to this article, bring them here. Cheers Nickm57 (talk) 06:21, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Does Theory of the Portuguese discovery of Australia help? It seems to indicate that the theory is generally discredited. --Scott Davis ^Talk 12:13, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 February 2018

Olofinge00001 (talk) 08:38, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

 Not done You need to also include the specifics of the edit you'd like made. -- Euryalus (talk) 08:52, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Unsupported map change

Last night, 42800141 changed the infobox map from one showing the Australian Antarctic Territory to one excluding it with the only reason being "Better map". While it's only a minor change, it's also rather pointless so I reverted with the explanation "Not better, doesn't include AAT". This was reverted with the rather peculiar summary "AAT doesn't count as part of Australian territory". 42800141 continues to revert to his preferred, AAT excluding map and requests for him to discuss the matter here,[1][2][3] have proved fruitless.[4] We have both now made 3 reversions with no attempt by 42800141 to provide a cogent argument for the change. As I explained in my first reversion, AAT is an Australian territory, which is supported by numerous sources, so we should be using the map showing this. I await his response. --AussieLegend (✉) 20:49, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

I have already explained that after the Antarctic Treaty, all territorial claims on the continent were suspended until 2040, and Antarctica became politically neutral, so there are no borders in the Antarctic ice. Moreover, the map that I put is much more accurate. --42800141 (talk) 21:28, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

What does Wikipedia do for other countries with disputed territorial claims? The maps on Pakistan and India show light green for an area claimed but not controlled.

Antarctic Treaty System#Articles of the Antarctic Treaty Article 4 – The treaty does not recognize, dispute, nor establish territorial sovereignty claims; no new claims shall be asserted while the treaty is in force;

That quote to me says that Australia can (and as far as I know, does) continue to make its claim on the AAT, however that claim is neither recognised nor disputed by the treaty partners. Australian Antarctic Territory has more detailed information.

I support reinstating the map that includes the AAT in light green, then if necessary adding further explanation in prose if it is not presently clear enough what the status is. It would be even better if the map could highlight the other small external territories as well. The article about the AAT says it is recognised by several countries other than Australia. --Scott Davis ^Talk 22:02, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

This is a former featured article, and changes should be made cautiously, with reference to reliable sources to support those changes. Could you please provide a reliable source that shows that Australia does not regard AAT as part of its territory? This one seems to suggest it does. I will revert your change awaiting your sources. Nickm57 (talk) 22:09, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

So why in the articles of other southern countries like Argentina and Chile, the Antarctic territories do not appear in the map as a claimed territory? --42800141 (talk) 22:50, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Representative democracy

Someone added the term a while ago both here and the Canada article. It was reverted in the past day. First, it was done with no comment and then because it "is too broad a term and is often subjective and up to different interpretations". I restored it, but feel free to discuss it and make your own mind up as to whether it's appropriate for the infobox or not. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:40, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

There was some discussion about this earlier this year, see Talk:Australia/Archive 19#Australia a "representative democracy". --Canley (talk) 21:31, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Culture

The Culture section seems to be lacking any real content about approach to governance. Need a paragraph like at Canada.--Moxy (talk) 15:15, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Canada's approach to governance emphasizing multiculturalism, which is based on selective immigration, social integration, and suppression of far-right politics, has wide public support. Government policies such as publicly funded health care, higher taxation to redistribute wealth, the outlawing of capital punishment, strong efforts to eliminate poverty, strict gun control, and the legalization of same-sex marriage are further social indicators of Canada's political and cultural values.Canadians also identify with the country's health care institutions, peacekeeping, the National park system and the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

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Portuguese, first Europeans to discover Australia

Hi all, Can anyone tell me the proves of dutch (i cant find any map, document and military or artifacts and linguistics influence remnants that mention that so obvious and certificate discover by dutch and of English (because one think is discover other is conquer).

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teoria_da_descoberta_da_Austr%C3%A1lia_pelos_portugueses — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.93.5.251 (talk) 22:15, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, the point you are trying to make is unclear. Hazarding a guess from the heading, why don't you read some of the relevant articles on and linked from English WP? Then if you have some actual suggestions for improvements to this article, bring them here. Cheers Nickm57 (talk) 06:21, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Does Theory of the Portuguese discovery of Australia help? It seems to indicate that the theory is generally discredited. --Scott Davis ^Talk 12:13, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 February 2018

Olofinge00001 (talk) 08:38, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

 Not done You need to also include the specifics of the edit you'd like made. -- Euryalus (talk) 08:52, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Unsupported map change

Last night, 42800141 changed the infobox map from one showing the Australian Antarctic Territory to one excluding it with the only reason being "Better map". While it's only a minor change, it's also rather pointless so I reverted with the explanation "Not better, doesn't include AAT". This was reverted with the rather peculiar summary "AAT doesn't count as part of Australian territory". 42800141 continues to revert to his preferred, AAT excluding map and requests for him to discuss the matter here,[5][6][7] have proved fruitless.[8] We have both now made 3 reversions with no attempt by 42800141 to provide a cogent argument for the change. As I explained in my first reversion, AAT is an Australian territory, which is supported by numerous sources, so we should be using the map showing this. I await his response. --AussieLegend (✉) 20:49, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

I have already explained that after the Antarctic Treaty, all territorial claims on the continent were suspended until 2040, and Antarctica became politically neutral, so there are no borders in the Antarctic ice. Moreover, the map that I put is much more accurate. --42800141 (talk) 21:28, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

What does Wikipedia do for other countries with disputed territorial claims? The maps on Pakistan and India show light green for an area claimed but not controlled.

Antarctic Treaty System#Articles of the Antarctic Treaty Article 4 – The treaty does not recognize, dispute, nor establish territorial sovereignty claims; no new claims shall be asserted while the treaty is in force;

That quote to me says that Australia can (and as far as I know, does) continue to make its claim on the AAT, however that claim is neither recognised nor disputed by the treaty partners. Australian Antarctic Territory has more detailed information.

I support reinstating the map that includes the AAT in light green, then if necessary adding further explanation in prose if it is not presently clear enough what the status is. It would be even better if the map could highlight the other small external territories as well. The article about the AAT says it is recognised by several countries other than Australia. --Scott Davis ^Talk 22:02, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

This is a former featured article, and changes should be made cautiously, with reference to reliable sources to support those changes. Could you please provide a reliable source that shows that Australia does not regard AAT as part of its territory? This one seems to suggest it does. I will revert your change awaiting your sources. Nickm57 (talk) 22:09, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

So why in the articles of other southern countries like Argentina and Chile, the Antarctic territories do not appear in the map as a claimed territory? --42800141 (talk) 22:50, 21 February 2018 (UTC)