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Kyle Duncan (soccer)

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An IP contested PROD. But I have a question: Is having a contract regarded as an appearance? So this article fails WP:NFOOTBALL. Pinging PROD nominator: ArsenalFan700 Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 07:48, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Nope, it doesn't mean he had an appearence. Officially he has never played in a match featuring two fully professional teams. Reserve matches do not count as fully-pro. He also fails WP:GNG. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 07:51, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Wait a moment, Soccerway shows that Kyle Duncan played in a USL game in 2014. USL is listed on WP:FPL, so Duncan might pass WP:NFOOTBALL. Jack N. Stock (talk) 08:19, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Jacknstock: That was New York Red Bulls Reserves which was one of many invitational MLS teams in USL that season. None of the players were on a contract or deal of any kind unless they had an MLS contract. In comparison, New York Red Bulls II is an actual USL team that is the reserve side for the Red Bulls but actually has players contracted to just Red Bulls II. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 16:45, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Jacknstock: But MLS reserve team league is not listed in WP:FPL. And this player played in this league. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 08:45, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    - You're correct. A year later, it would have been USL. He's now training with Red Bulls again to try to make the USL team. At the moment, this is a delete and someone can ask an admin to undelete if he makes the team for a 2018 USL game. Jack N. Stock (talk) 08:53, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete After looking into it, it appears to have been a legitimate USL Pro match, where some MLS reserve sides competed for some reason (as RB did five times according to this article. Probably done to round out the schedule). USL Pro was renamed United Soccer League in 2015 so it is the same league. But since the appearance was for a non-fully professional side per User:ArsenalFan700 and the player notability guidelines the article should be deleted. Jay eyem (talk) 16:06, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment per User:SportingFlyer draftifying or userfying would also be acceptable. Jay eyem (talk) 20:17, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 19:09, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify as it's borderline to qualifying for WP:NFOOTBALL even though it doesn't yet. SportingFlyer (talk) 19:41, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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 ****You're correct. A year later, it would have been USL. He's now training with Red Bulls again to try to make the USL team. At the moment, this is a '''delete''' and someone can ask an admin to undelete if he makes the team for a 2018 USL game. [[User:Jacknstock|Jack N. Stock]] ([[User talk:Jacknstock|talk]]) 08:53, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 *'''Delete''' After looking into it, it appears to have been a legitimate [[USL Pro]] match, where some MLS reserve sides competed for some reason (as RB did five times according to [[2014 USL Pro season|this article]]. Probably done to round out the schedule). USL Pro was renamed [[United Soccer League]] in 2015 so it is the same league. But since the appearance was for a non-fully professional side per [[User:ArsenalFan700]] and the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Notability|player notability guidelines]] the article should be deleted. [[User:Jay eyem|Jay eyem]] ([[User talk:Jay eyem|talk]]) 16:06, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
+:*'''Comment''' per [[User:SportingFlyer]] '''draftifying''' or '''userfying''' would also be acceptable. [[User:Jay eyem|Jay eyem]] ([[User talk:Jay eyem|talk]]) 20:17, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 *'''Delete''' - fails [[WP:GNG]] and [[WP:NFOOTBALL]]. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 19:09, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 *'''Draftify''' as it's borderline to qualifying for [[WP:NFOOTBALL]] even though it doesn't yet. [[User:SportingFlyer|SportingFlyer]] ([[User talk:SportingFlyer|talk]]) 19:41, 22 February 2018 (UTC)