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JESUS! Talk about a prolific writer! Is she considered an "A-List" writer by academics and the literary establishment or a bit sub-par? --205.188.117.8 08:25, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That depends on who you talk to. She is often brought up by among some as a good canadidate for the next American Nobel laureate for literature, but that has been the speculate since before Toni Morrison received hers. Other, in the camp to which I belong, find her work of a passable but not great quality. However, she has received some critical acclaim, including a National Book Award for the novel them, The PEN/Malamud Award for Excellence. Oprah brought to a large audience with choosing We Were the Mulvaneys for he book club. --chemica 05:39, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

She is certainly an A-list writer by anyone's estimation. In addition to being a perennial Nobel candidate, she is also nominated all the time for every major literary award, including an unheard-of two-book nomination in 2008 for the National Book Critics Circle Award. Perhaps Wikipedia can reach out to the people at the Celestial Timeline (not sure this is right) page and ask them to help sharpen this entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.241.103.122 (talk) 07:06, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This IP 64.113.69.215 has been repeatedly vadalizing this page Falcon4196 03:21, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gore Vidal line: What are the three saddest words in the English language? Joyce Carol Oates. 87.84.248.99 (talk) 15:41, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

One more reason to dislike Gore Vidal.Lestrade (talk) 15:30, 17 June 2011 (UTC)Lestrade[reply]

She has tremendous standing with many influential critics and with a wide readership all over the world. Vidal was probably being jealous. Of course some of her choice of subject matter and her unflinching way of writing, and of confronting or investigating sexism, class prejudice/conflict and racism, are sometimes controversial, not least in her native country. If she'd been European (English or other) much more of her work would have been adapted for tv and movies, and she might even have been asked to write original screenplays, but the way she shapes her literary world flies in the face of Hollywood and US tv dramaturgy (while she is not in any sense a cheap agitator). IMO she writes incredibly good dialogue, would make a terrific script writer.

As pointed out already in the article, she is often bet to be the next U.S. Nobel Prize winner for Literature, and it's relatively safe to say she will live on as a classic of post-war American literature and remain widely read and appreciated for many decades from now. Strausszek (talk) 11:32, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Nobel Committee has a policy according to which "everybody gets a turn." If JCO's ethnic category has already been awarded the prize, then she will have to wait until every other has their chance. At present, the next in line are a male from Brazil, a transgender from American Samoa, and a female from Syria.Lestrade (talk) 20:49, 23 January 2012 (UTC)Lestrade[reply]

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This article is turgid, particularly the intro, and there's lots of uncited material, red links and overall it seems to need some work. Anyone object if I do it? Jimsteele9999 (talk) 19:36, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Landfill controversy

In 2006, Joyce Carol Oates was criticized for writing a short story based on the real life death of a New Jersey college student.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/10/books/11oates.html

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/15228015/ns/today-entertainment/t/joyce-carol-oates-criticized-over-story/

The article currently doesn't mention this. Should it? Zeromus1 (talk) 05:40, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like someone to please give some advice about this, because if I add this information to the article I'm not sure where it should go. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zeromus1 (talk • contribs) 00:27, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I added these sources to the article, but I'm having trouble making the citation look the way it should. Could someone else put it in whatever format it's supposed to be in? Zeromus1 (talk) 00:14, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Non-existent award

An IP just removed a non-existent award from the Select awards and honors section. 'The Will Smith Willenium Award for clever wordplay' had been listed in this article since November, 2012! And as misinformation in Wikipedia will, it had spread. The diff of the insertion is here[1]. - Neonorange (talk) 01:15, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Joyce Carol Oates was born in 1938, not 1937. 174.28.219.78 (talk) 03:43, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, can you provide a citation? --Jeremyb (talk) 03:53, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Twitter

The use of Twitter by Joyce Carol Oates, which has attracted significant comment from respected newspapers such as The Guardian, is affecting her reputation. This public activity is entirely relevant any article wanting to give a rounded picture of her work, views, and reputaiton. The short section reflecting this is:

Oates is a regular poster on Twitter, leading to her account being described as "infamous" and "the #1 self-parody account on Twitter." ^[1] Besides ridicule ("this is the way many younger people now see Joyce Carol Oates: an older woman with a bad Twitter account"), she has been criticised for her "position of near-total cultural insensitivity".^[2] She has drawn particular criticism for the perceived Islamophobia of her tweets.^[3]^[4]

Someone removes this as being "plagiarism." It is a ridiculous assertion. It includes of very short, clearly sourced quotations. It can only be that the person doing this is trying to control the article for particular purposes. Stop it. Starple (talk) 20:26, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't assume the intentions of other editors. S806 (talk) 23:01, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bad source/ageism and sexism

I would like to remove, or edit this piece in the twitter section.

Besides ridicule ("this is the way many younger people now see Joyce Carol Oates: an older woman with a bad Twitter account"), she has been criticised for her "position of near-total cultural insensitivity".

It appears to be a clear violation of WP:NPOV. Also, the source is very dubious. I don't think the source for that will pass WP:RS. Not only that, but it appears to be ageist and sexist. S806 (talk) 23:00, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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S806 (talk) 00:31, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV

User:Neonorange The twitter section has had many issues with it because it's a WP:BLP especially with WP:NPOV. Currently, there is text saying "leading to her account being described as 'infamous' and 'the #1 self-parody account on Twitter.'". This is clearly not NPOV, it's a commentary not by a news article, but by an interviewer from an interview. It should be removed, because it is contentious and possibly libelous about a living person. Because this is BLP, we have to be careful. S806 (talk) 14:10, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

^ Schonfeld, Zac (November 30, 2013). "Joyce Carol Oates Shares the Secrets of her Twitter Game". Guardian.com. Retrieved August 8, 2017.
^ Thurm, Eric (Oct 5, 2016). "IsJoyce Carol Oates Trolling Us?". Lithub.com. Retrieved August 8, 2017.
^ Bury, Liz (July 8, 2013). "Joyce Carol Oates sparks Twitter storm over Egypt remarks". Guardian.com. Retrieved August 8, 2017.
^ Gupta, Prachi (July 6, 2013). "Joyce Carol Oates's Islamophobic tweets". Salon.com. Retrieved August 8, 2017.

[1] Schonfeld, Zac (November 30, 2013). "Joyce Carol Oates Shares the Secrets of her Twitter Game". Guardian.com. Retrieved August 8, 2017.

[2] Thurm, Eric (Oct 5, 2016). "IsJoyce Carol Oates Trolling Us?". Lithub.com. Retrieved August 8, 2017.

[3] Bury, Liz (July 8, 2013). "Joyce Carol Oates sparks Twitter storm over Egypt remarks". Guardian.com. Retrieved August 8, 2017.

[4] Gupta, Prachi (July 6, 2013). "Joyce Carol Oates's Islamophobic tweets". Salon.com. Retrieved August 8, 2017.

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	[[User:Neonorange]] The twitter section has had many issues with it because it's a [[WP:BLP]] especially with [[WP:NPOV]]. Currently, there is text saying "leading to her account being described as 'infamous' and 'the #1 self-parody account on Twitter.'". This is clearly not NPOV, it's a commentary not by a news article, but by an interviewer from an interview. It should be removed, because it is contentious and possibly libelous about a living person. [[User:S806\|S806]] ([[User talk:S806\|talk]]) 14:10, 27 February 2018 (UTC)		[[User:Neonorange]] The twitter section has had many issues with it because it's a [[WP:BLP]] especially with [[WP:NPOV]]. Currently, there is text saying "leading to her account being described as 'infamous' and 'the #1 self-parody account on Twitter.'". This is clearly not NPOV, it's a commentary not by a news article, but by an interviewer from an interview. It should be removed, because it is contentious and possibly libelous about a living person. Because this is BLP, we have to be careful. [[User:S806\|S806]] ([[User talk:S806\|talk]]) 14:10, 27 February 2018 (UTC)