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The first paragraph in the section "Later years" ends in 1755. The second paragraph starts in 1757 and ends in 1758. The third paragraph goes back to 1755... I think it makes sense to move the third paragraph before the second, for a chronological timeline. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Valkoun|Valkoun]] ([[User talk:Valkoun#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Valkoun|contribs]]) 22:24, 28 March 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
The first paragraph in the section "Later years" ends in 1755. The second paragraph starts in 1757 and ends in 1758. The third paragraph goes back to 1755... I think it makes sense to move the third paragraph before the second, for a chronological timeline. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Valkoun|Valkoun]] ([[User talk:Valkoun#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Valkoun|contribs]]) 22:24, 28 March 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Date of Birth == |
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When I edited this (just to update a url) on 27th March 2018, there was no exact birthdate given, just a christening date of 28th March referenced to an offline book "A History of English Food. Arrow Books. pp. 295–296. ISBN 9780099514947". Since then, another editor has helpfully provided a google books link. The book refers to "her christening at St Andrew, Holborn in March 1708" - no exact day date at all! The date was removed from the text to reflect this, however, in the meantime, another editor decided to insert an info box into the article, using "March" as a DOB. It was then updated by an IP who put the "28 March" date as an actual birthdate. (this ip has "I added various unknown people for most Google doodle updates" on their talk page, so presumably was inspired by the google doodle) |
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So where did the original date of 28 March came from? Google announced that "It's Hannah Glasses birthday", even though there Wikipedia had no decently sourced date for the baptism, let alone a birthdate. Did they take the possibly incorrect christening date from Wikipedia and extrapolate it to a date of birth? It is a bit worrying when possible misinformation gets spread around in a self perpetuating loop like this. |
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After a bit of poking around; according to the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, she was baptised on 24 March. https://doi.org/10.1093/ref:odnb/10804. Its the best source I can find, unless anyone can find something more reliable.[[User:Curdle|Curdle]] ([[User talk:Curdle|talk]]) 15:14, 31 March 2018 (UTC) |
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The origin of "First catch your ..." is from Elizabeth Beeton, referencing chickens.
Untitled
"First catch your hare" does not actually appear in The Art of Cookery. What she actually wrote in a recipe for roast hare was "Take your Hare when it is cas'd (i.e. caught) and make pudding". --Cuirmichael 02:11, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- The quote in the first paragraph of this article looks like vandalism. I realize that it isn't vandalsim, but it looks like it... a lot. Maybe we can make it not bold, and just put some quotation marks around it? Better format, I think. Zeno Izen (talk) 14:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Sourcing
Why are we using familysearch.org here? I was under the impression that genealogical websites such as these are deemed not to be reliable, per discussions at WP:RSN. - Sitush (talk) 16:17, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Yorkshire pudding
She is credited with giving Yorkshire pudding its name in the papers today, for instance here. Is this worth adding to the article? 109.204.116.189 (talk) 11:25, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Portrait
The internet has a sketch of her. A sample is here: "DOMESTIC GODDESS Hannah Glasse – who was the English cookbook writer being celebrated by Google Doodle on her 310th birthday?".. Anyone know where it came from? --evrik (talk) 14:50, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
More about the book
What's missing from this entry is what was most significant about the book — that she intended it for servants, that her clean writing style was easy for country girls to understand, and that it's the first reference to curry, all which I found at one of the links at the bottom of the page - http://www.bl.uk/learning/langlit/texts/cook/1700s2/artreaderhome/reader.html 75.165.176.213 (talk) 15:22, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Later years timeline
The first paragraph in the section "Later years" ends in 1755. The second paragraph starts in 1757 and ends in 1758. The third paragraph goes back to 1755... I think it makes sense to move the third paragraph before the second, for a chronological timeline. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valkoun (talk • contribs) 22:24, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Date of Birth
When I edited this (just to update a url) on 27th March 2018, there was no exact birthdate given, just a christening date of 28th March referenced to an offline book "A History of English Food. Arrow Books. pp. 295–296. ISBN 9780099514947". Since then, another editor has helpfully provided a google books link. The book refers to "her christening at St Andrew, Holborn in March 1708" - no exact day date at all! The date was removed from the text to reflect this, however, in the meantime, another editor decided to insert an info box into the article, using "March" as a DOB. It was then updated by an IP who put the "28 March" date as an actual birthdate. (this ip has "I added various unknown people for most Google doodle updates" on their talk page, so presumably was inspired by the google doodle) So where did the original date of 28 March came from? Google announced that "It's Hannah Glasses birthday", even though there Wikipedia had no decently sourced date for the baptism, let alone a birthdate. Did they take the possibly incorrect christening date from Wikipedia and extrapolate it to a date of birth? It is a bit worrying when possible misinformation gets spread around in a self perpetuating loop like this.
After a bit of poking around; according to the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, she was baptised on 24 March. https://doi.org/10.1093/ref:odnb/10804. Its the best source I can find, unless anyone can find something more reliable.Curdle (talk) 15:14, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
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