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Hugo Gottesmann

Hi, Thank you so much for your help in one of my reference (2) for the year 1915. I added another reference 3 for the year 1916. Gottessman is referenced in 1916 for his awards. WS114WS114 13:33, 6 March 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mary Jane Doerr (talk • contribs)

sure. Jytdog (talk) 13:37, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Studio71

Thank you again for your message on my talk. At this point, I'm obviously not trying to push harder than I should and have gone quiet on certain discussions to let things cool down. I understand the controversy of contesting a merge, but do you actually think Studio71 is not notable for a WP? You said I see no real chance in the near future for Studio71 to have its own article in WP. That may change in a year or two.

This is more just for my own understanding: I believe they are notable but why exactly is a contest of the merge not the right thing to do aside from the fact that it will generate more bad feeling for me? Thanks for your patience with me. JacobPace (talk) 16:32, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

You asked me that already, and I answered already. Jytdog (talk) 17:29, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks! JacobPace (talk) 17:34, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Notification of GA Reassessment: Behavioral genetics

Behavioural_genetics, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Groceryheist (talk) 06:39, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Question

Just curious - I do recall at one point you had said that there are holes on Wikipedia that need filling. What kind of examples were you referring to? JacobPace (talk) 16:29, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

There is always a ton of work to do. Things get outdated and need updating with more current refs; somebody comes through dump a bunch of content into an article throwing off the WEIGHT which then needs rebalancing; people create SPLITs and leave stub content in the main article, which then gets built back up with different content and sourcing, leaving the main article and split article out of sync and leaving us with "meta-editing" gardening work to do; and there all kinds of notable subjects that don't have articles at all. In the fields of stuff I edit about, some day I intend to write Susan Niditch ( biblical scholar, Rich Aldrich (investor in the boston biotech scene), and Barbara Dalton (pharma VC)... I am sure there are holes in subjects you are knowledgeable about too! I don't think there is a universal "to do" list anywhere but I am sure lots of wikiprojects have to do lists you could check. Jytdog (talk) 16:48, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks so much. Will research this over the weekend in more detail. JacobPace (talk) 17:15, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Just a quick follow up question here so I can fully understand. I'm assuming you find these notable through WP:BIO correct? Any specific part that you see validate the notability of these people? No rush at all. You've given me more than is needed as it is. Thank you. JacobPace (talk) 16:33, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

I have no doubt that Niditch will fly per WP:PROF; the other two I am not certain. I imagine they will be but since I have not really gone searching yet I am not sure. Jytdog (talk) 16:51, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Ok, cool. Just wondering. JacobPace (talk) 16:56, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

The Exodus article is one sided and offensive. Please help to resolve.

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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The majority of this article is offensive, one sides, anti-Semitic, and anti-Christian. How can you call the history of the majority of the worlds faith (Abrahamic faiths including Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) and the history of the nation of Israel a "foundation myth." The author of this article uses untrue and nonobjective generalities like saying "most scholars agree, many scholars agree, a consensus of archaeologists". Being myself a theologians and holder of a masters and doctorate on the subject matter these are just not true. I do not know the best way to edit this post but my attempts to make them objective have been denied. Please help me to know how to make the appropriate corrections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by John Aaron Matthew (talk • contribs) 19:47, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Please post at the article talk page with respect to article content.

You should also be aware that Wikipedia follows scholarship and is not confessional. The history of the Ancient Near East is a scholarly discipline that is conducted in the secular world, like the rest of the discipline of History. I realize this can be frustrating from some religious people. Sorry about that. Jytdog (talk) 19:52, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. I understand that postings should be scholarly and not confessional. That is my point. The current post is confessional in that it presents a belief that the historical source material is untrue and disregards the majority of scholarly work that explores the source material including these below just as a few.

United Kingdom Hydrographic Office, Admiralty Chart H2 73 0012 – El 'Aqaba to Duba and Ports on the Sinai Coast, UKHO, Taunton

The Catholic Encyclopaedia

Hansen, P, Timeline from creation to Jesus

Finkelstein, I & Silberman, N (2001), The Bible Unearthed, The Free Press, New York

Gospel Pedlar, James Ussher: The Annals of the World

Merling, D (1999), Did the Israelites Cross the Red Sea or the Gulf of Aqaba?

Shaw, I (2000), Oxford History of Ancient Egypt, Oxford University Press, Oxford

Uphill, E P (1968), Pithom and Raamses: Their Location and Significance, JNES, Vol.27 No.4

Wyatt Archaeology, The Exodus Conspiracy — Preceding unsigned comment added by John Aaron Matthew (talk • contribs) 20:17, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Again please discuss specific article content at the article talk page which is Talk:The Exodus

Also, threading and signing comments on talk pages, are both as fundamental here in Wikipedia as "please" and "thank you" - not doing them will make you come across as rude.

I fixed your indenting above, and a bot signed on your behalf.

We indent by putting colons in front of a comment -- put one more than the person who wrote before you -- the Wikipedia software displays an indent. We call this "threading" - see WP:THREAD.

Please sign your post by typing four tildas at the end (exactly four), and the Wikipedia software will turn that into a "signature" - links to your user page and talk page, and a date stamp.

Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 20:23, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

• Silberman and Finklestein deny the historicity of the Exodus, as does the Oxford History of Egypt. None of the rest of those sources are even remotely reliable, and would only represent scholarship to a fundamentalist who explicitly denies real scholarship. Hell, the first is by a regular contributor to AiG. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 21:40, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Jytog, may I intervene by pointing out that history is a scholarly activity that is also pursued in the religious world, according to multiple traditions, but which traditions are generally accepted even in the "secular" world? I realize this can be frustrating for some non-religious people. Sorry about that. But that's the real world. Evensteven (talk) 23:11, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Obnoxious edit summaries

can the obnoxious smug shit you are putting in your edit summaries (in re Imprimis edits) - ridiculous. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:10, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Tatzelwurm

I object your delete, which I am going to revert, and find your edit comment "This is treating legend as reality. Not OK in Wikipedia" to be quite inane, or insult on my intelligence. Of course I realize these stories are far-fetched, and I expect every conceivably sane-minded reader to figure that out, without requiring a caveat at every step that this may not be the "reality".

If you want to figure out some way to contexutalize without making it overtaxing to read, then you are welcome to do so but you have no grounds to do wholesale delete.

These primary sources are also quite properly introduced here and there through secondary sources, generally 19th and 20th century article pieces in folktale type journals as well. Thank you. --Kiyoweap (talk) 12:48, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Cat-headed illustration

On the image file File:Houghton Swi 607.23 - Ouresiphoítes helveticus, fig X.jpg I will explain why you should not have reverted to the old caption "18th century cat-headed illustration".

It misleads the reader into thinking the creature is called Tatzelwurm in the book it is taken from, whereas it is not. Therefore I called it a dragon (in Latin) as it does the book. Additional information like "encountered ca. 1660" was meant as additonal info on the corresponding text, not to dress this up as real. The caption has been amended to "Depiction of the cat-headed dragon claimed to have been encountered on Mt. Kamor". --Kiyoweap (talk) 14:09, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

again see my talk page

Is there anyway I can notify you when I make edits there or do I always need to leave a message here too? Upoon7 (talk) 06:51, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

You don't need to notify me at all. You dont need to leave a message here. Jytdog (talk) 16:04, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Dont delete explanatoy notes that are referenced

Like in your edit here, when my text reads

".. dialects.{{Efn|Dialect of [[Canton of Aargau]].. according to Rochholz}}<ref name=doblhoff-apud-kohlrusch&rochholz/>

isn't it quite obvious that the text enclosed in {{Efn}} is probably given in the same citatin that has "rocholz" in it? Don't delete text as WP:OR without checking if it is in the inline citation. You did this same thing 3 times. --Kiyoweap (talk) 15:12, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

With regard to this note and the ones above, please post them at the article talk page and I will reply there. Jytdog (talk) 16:05, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

No. If it were a content issue, where you had some source evidence to contradict the information, that would be a worthy topic on the page.

What I am pointing out is that you deleted information claiming WP:OR even though the information was in plain sight in the inline citation I gave. That does not constitute substantive discussion on the topic of Tatzelwurm helpful to others interested in writing about the topic. --Kiyoweap (talk) 22:19, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

PLease discuss content at the article talk page. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 22:22, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Large Paid Editing Declaration

Hi Jytdog, I received a message from User:Bbarmadillo, who seems to have made a gigantic declaration of paid editing. I wonder if you have see it. He sent me an email, for some reason. scope_creep (talk) 02:20, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Hm! Looks at first glance like they are being a good citizen. Will look further and keep my fingers crossed. Odd that he emailed you. Jytdog (talk) 02:41, 11 March 2018 (UTC)