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October 12

Curious question

what is

mean of interstrate

You may want to goto article Interstate. --WinHunter ^(talk) 15:42, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 14

How to delete my ip address please ?

Many thanks for putting my mind at rest. I should have read the small print. I now have an account.

October 15

Knox

Do you think I am being anal at Seymour Knox? Look at the dab page and see that it is kind of important. Please move.

October 17

Entering my opinion on deleting an entry

Hope this comes through. Apologies for the duplicate message. Thanx for the advice. JerryFlattum

Converting DokuWiki to MediaWiki

Is there an app that can do this?

Help

== Who is the author of this site

What year was it created ==

See Wikipedia. If you're trying to cite the Wikipedia for a school project or something, see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:55, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 18

Upload.wikimedia.org not working...

I can't view any images anymore. Seems like the server is down or something, any info on that?

October 19

My last request

Please fix the redirect on The 89 guy's home page. I tried but could not get it working. Thank you for deleting my old user pages.Please get rid of my old talk pages with them. Good luck and good bye!-Jak Hope you can figure this puzzle out. I hope things come along.

--Ahh...My last request goes unawnsered.--

October 20

Notability guidelines for historical events

I've read over the Wikipedia notability guidelines and I don't see anything that specifically addresses notability guidelines for historical events. I'm wondering whether there is a policy and if not whether there should be one.

My main interest in this is the history of aviation. If we had articles for every single aircraft accident ever we'd be drowning in accident reports, but what connotes notability? I'd like to propose guidelines for including air accidents in Wikipedia but without general historical event guidelines it seems like proposing them is putting the cart before the horse.

We don't need to be the Aviation Safety Network, but some accidents are notable. --Charlene.fic 18:01, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you can find third-party sources asserting that the event was notable, it is. I don't know if that's the official guideline on the matter, but I think you're generally safe if you can find a source. I would go ahead and write the article - from first glance it seems plausible. If it's going to be deleted, it would probably be under a full AfD since it's not a clear-cut case, so you can definitely see whether community consensus is okay with it. But I think what you're proposing is fine. —Keakealani 19:04, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The accidents I'm planning to put in are notable in that they've been referred to as notable by third parties (although most of the references are paper, not online) *and* in that they're notable for some other reason (they prompted changes to government rules, highlighted problems with aircraft design, etc.). I added |one accident yesterday that addressed flight and controller training in Asia.

I'm more concerned that somebody is going to decide one day that every accident in the NTSB, TSB of Canada, AAIB (UK), etc. databases has to go into Wikipedia. That's something like 20 accidents and incidents a *day* worldwide over the last 80 years. We have an article on the very notable hockey player Bill Barilko, for instance; we don't need a separate article on the routine accident (if that can be said) that took his life. It would be nice to have guidelines, especially in the case of accidents in developing nations or before 1950 where despite the accident being notable there isn't much online. Sometimes it seems like we have 20 KB on an accident that cost two lives in the US but nothing on an accident that cost 300 lives in India and prompted massive changes to Indian air traffic control procedures.

Thank you for replying, by the way! I appreciate it. --Charlene.fic 19:45, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For aircraft accidents, there has been a discussion going for quite awhile (unfortunately with no clear result) at Talk:List of notable accidents and incidents on commercial aircraft. If it's a subject you're interested in, contributions are always welcome! — QuantumEleven 08:11, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Search For Users?

Hello, how does one search through wikipedia users? More specifically, I'm looking for a user who is fluent in both Russian and English. Thank you. --Demonesque 21:18, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There's a list of users who speak near-native Russian at Category:User ru-4 and native speakers of Russian at Category:User ru-N --Casper2k3 21:29, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Is there anyway to search through users, though? Or anything that would be remotely helpful in that respect?--Demonesque 21:33, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You could look through Special:Listerusers. Thanks. --Alex (Talk) 22:28, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can restrict Wikipedia's search by namespace (search first for something that isn't found, like sdfsdfsdfsdfsdf), then on the search form you can search only user pages for whatever you'd like. You can get approximately the same result by adding 'site:en.wikipedi.org "wiki/user"' to a Google search, for example this Google search. -- Rick Block (talk) 01:02, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you're looking for someone to help you with a translation, check out Wikipedia:Translators available#Russian-to-English, or, more generally, Wikipedia:Translation into English. — QuantumEleven 08:05, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 21

Deleted?

I have searched Wikipedia, there is no article about the Search engine "GoodTree" which helps to raise money for charities all over the world. So I created one, but only after 5 minutes, someone deleted it and I have not even have a chance to save it yet. I just wanna know why. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by HyperPacifist (talk • contribs) .

There's no article in the the logs by that name, but you can look for yourself at Special:Log, which should have the deleting admin's reasoning. It was more than likely because it violated the criteria for speedy deletion, probably G11 or A7. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk)

01:29, 21 October 2006 Lucky 6.9 (Talk | contribs) deleted "GoodTree" (Spam)

I don't see how my article is a spam. I paraphase the vision of GoodTree and how it works. Its less than 500 words, and most importantly, this organization does EXIST. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by HyperPacifist (talk • contribs) .

Please sign your posts with ~~~~. And yeah, I see it now. You have to establish notability for the topics of articles which you create. Just because something exists doesn't mean it's encyclopedic material. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 01:58, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You guys even allow an article "Back To Babylon" whihc is just an album published by a band to stay in wiki, and you allow a google to be in wiki, I can't see why can't GoodTree, as an oragniazation which helps raise money for charities all over the world, and a free search engine, can't stay in wikipedia. HyperPacifist 02:09, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't read that page I linked to, did you? The Wikipedia is allergic to advertisements, whether or not they're for a noble cause. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 02:13, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well I didn't do any advertising in my article. In the "Google" article, the editors put:

[The users of Google] were attracted to its simple, uncluttered, clean design — a competitive advantage to attract users who did not wish to enter searches on web pages filled with visual distractions.

Aren't this promoting google, advertising google? Besides, I have to restate that GoodTree is a free search engine which helps to raise money fore charities. Besides, keeping wikipedia out-of-date wihtout newest info is not a good thing. --HyperPacifist 02:19, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Google is notable. Again, read the page I linked to, please. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 02:24, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to restore the page, you can take it up at Wikipedia:Deletion review. Unless you read and understand that page, though, you probably won't get far. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 02:29, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Legalese 10:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)Not fair. Even i came here looking for GoodTree, wanted to know what others think about it. Let this page be there. You may edit the content to make it "advertisement free" but let this be there for the sake of information. After all, in a way every advertisement is an information, and every information is an advertisement. But do not please curtail the freedom of expression, as well as the right of others to seek information, by simply deleting the page. If you find it as including some advertising material, edit it, tag it for others, but dont just delete it.[reply]

Block Editing

My son likes to use Wikipedia but I want to block him from editing anything, can this be done??

Usually people are only blocked if they vandalize. As long as your son has something useful to contribute it will be looked upon favourably. If you want to contribute yourself, without being blocked because of some silly thing your son might do, please log in. If you want him blocked for contributing all the way, it might be better to enact some measures on your end. NielsF 03:12, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that I'm just a simple Dutchman trying to help, but not exactly knowing how things are solved in the bureaucracy of english-language wikipedia, someone more accustomed with the bureaucracy here should answer. NielsF 03:16, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For better or worse, Wikipedia is not a very bureaucratic organization. While we have policies and guidelines, there is very little formal structure. Wikipedia does have administrators, who are permitted access to certain software tools, and we do have methods for resolving disputes via consensus, but (to disagree a little with NielsF) there is no one here who, by reason of bureaucratic authority, can provide a specific solution to your issue. But I would concur with Niels that the most effective way to keep your son from editing Wikipedia (though I'm not sure why you would want to do that) is to exercise your parental responsibility and skills, or by installing some sort of software to enforce that on your computer. We are not set up here to enforce parental controls on using or editing Wikipedia. If you are worried that your son will vandalize Wikipedia, or edit poorly, you might want to discuss that with him. --MCB 05:45, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What you are actually asking for is not a block, but a ban. I'm afraid it's not possible - since we can't technically ban people. Bans are all community enforced - so it's just like, everyone keeping an eye out for banned people so they can be blocked if they're identified. Which is why banning is really just for people who are causing wikipedia harm. I'm afraid the wikipedian community is really not equipped to handle requests such as yours. It would be best to work it out personally with your son. --`/aksha 11:21, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Acually there is a simple way to block editing, if you have either a router, an internet filter, or Internet Explorer as your only browser. All you need to do is use a parental control option to block any page with "&action=edit" in the URL. (Alternatly, to block page histories, and to a large part all non-article content, you could block "http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?", although this will block pages such as Special:Cite (Allows you to bring up predone cites for any Wikipedia page) as well, so you way want to put some exceptions in for that. Prodego ^talk 13:52, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, blocking "&action=edit" in a filter will block editing of all MediaWiki wikis, not just Wikipedia. --MCB 17:43, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your advise on this, My son is autistic so trying to explain this to him is not easy. What I have done is added "&actioc=edit" to my Cyberpatrol filters. Looks like this will allow him to access all this great information without causing others problems. Again thanks.

Need Help fixing Manizales

I went inton Manizales to fix the article. Unfortunately, it moved all the contents into the fact boxes. I do not know why this happened. I was an accident.

I hope you can fix it. I have been to Colombia many time and know a lot of interesting things that I can add to articles since I know many cities and towns.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Take care,

Matthew

Wisconsin, USA.

It looks like another editor already fixed it. Just look at the Diff s on the history page to see what he did to fix it. —Mitaphane _talk 17:45, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Skewed Information

To Dear Editors,

I see that most of the information provided or edited in Wikipedia is much more skewed against to a nation, which will soon raise the questions on the reliability of the Wikipedia as an independent source of the information and the facts. One example among many can be given as Turkification. Absolutely weird, and even the editor! And a link he gives is to the deceased famous folk music performer Ahmet Kaya in which page he is claimed to be a Kurdish (may be), and his name is even deformed for the Kurdish pronunciation. May be, but it is so strange that many things nowadays are claimed by anybody!!.. On the other hand, couldn’t Wikipedia be able to ask at least to his family, while many of whom are alive today?

Isn’t it true that this is another kind of racism committed with the name of anti-racism or justice or fairness or you name it, as some of you there representing authoritarian views!!!

I believe, if Wikipedia has intentions to have the role of carrying a reliable source for any kind of information, then all the pieces edited and uploaded to these sites should certainly be carefully investigated and should not be presented without fundamental and respectful proofs being provided or they should be weighed with some quantative truth factors or opinions accordingly given by the authorities form the respectful universities, or otherwise information uploaded should never be taken serious and not presented to the public in here. I saw some images with dead ended references related to the subject.

Another example of a weird page coming up is the page of “Casualties of the Turkish-Kurdish conflict”. the main reason is just forgotten, taht is pkk as targetting people (almost anybody for more than 30 years) while it was possible to raise the questions peacefuly, since many kurds as pointed out in your sites live indiscriminately in big cities at every ranks of the society.

It's not clear from your posting what your question is (this is a help desk for assistance with using Wikipedia), but the issues you raise should be discussed on the Talk pages of the articles you refer to. Look for the "discussion" tab at the top of the article's page, and click on it to read and participate in discussions about the article's quality and neutrality. --MCB 17:49, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Solargenus

I might have edited to a page where I should?.. where I tried to get a help desk where I could be able to write.. People the page I edited should be deleted if this is the case or directed to the correct channels. I am sorry and thank you. The message was written with the signature of solargenus.. just a name..

As you will see above, I recommend taking your issues to the Talk pages of the articles involved. Hope this helps. --MCB 17:51, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, due to wikipedia's online volunteer nature, there is inherit bias that shows up. You should try bring up the slanted viewpoint on the articles' talk pages, or perhaps the discussion page for neutrality project. —Mitaphane _talk 17:53, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Accesskey

I ***HATE*** how alt-f brings the cursor to the search bar, when in Internet Explorer it's supposed to pop the File menu (so I can pop a new menu if I desire). Any way to disable this in Wiki or in IE? It's driving me NUTS.

Thanks for the help, Derrsonn

Rather than hitting them simultaneously, hit alt, then f? What do you mean about popping a new menu from the file menu anyways? All of the common options in the file menu have their own ctrl hotkeys. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 06:52, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He means when you hit alt and f together, the file menu normally comes down. On wikipedia, when you hit alt and f together, the screen jumps up to the top to where the wikipedia search box is.

the simple solution is what ^ just said, just hit alt and f seperately. Even if you do it very fast, as long as you let go of the alt key before you hit f, the file menu should come up and your screen won't jump. Just learn to let go of the alt key quickly. --`/aksha 11:03, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just confused about the bit in the parentheses -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 00:12, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

SVGZ

Just wondering, does MediaWiki support SVGZ images? I can't find anything to about this that says either way. Thanks. - ^Рэд _хот 11:52, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know much about this, but the documentation is at m:SVG image support. If that doesn't answer your question then try the talk page there. --Cherry blossom tree 22:16, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to use colors, highlights or textbox colors?

When I'm typing my signature, say, how to I get the letters to be in different colors, or how to you make textboxes colored?

Customizing your signature is described at Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. To make a text box colored, add CSS markup like this. -- Rick Block (talk) 16:13, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dead Links

I have seen several articles up for review. Within the articles are links. Some links are colored red, and other are not. When I click on the links, I go to a page that states there is no such article. Should I "unlink" a dead link within the original article? I did try a search but to no avail.

Thank you, LarryBH

Please see Wikipedia:Red link. -- Rick Block (talk) 16:06, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's generally not good to delete those links. Red links are not bad, they just indicate that there isn't yet an article written for that particular subject. They also may indicate that there needs to be an article on that subject. And then, when someone does write that article, the link will automatically turn blue. That way the links are already in place and the person that writes the, until now non-existant, article doesn't have to go around to various other articles to link that particular term. You'll sometimes see people remove red links from an actor's filmography. This actually hurts the process since once the articles are written for those films, the links would have turned blue and nobody would have had to go around to various actor's articles and link the title of the film of the new article. Dismas|^(talk) 16:10, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for your reply. LarryBH

password

how do i change my password? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Clks333 (talk • contribs) 17:00, 21 October 2006 .

You can do it in your preferences. Jacek Kendysz 17:07, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New pages by contributor?

Hi! Is there a way to list only the new pages I or another editor have created? The watchlist sorta helps, but not entirely. Thanks! Zephyrad 17:58, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are you looking for all the pages a certain editor has created or just recent ones? Special:Newpages is some what close to what you're talking about, but I don't think it's exactly what you're wanting. —Mitaphane _talk 18:45, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it'd be nice to narrow them down to a time frame, also... but yeah, a complete list of new pages (i.e. pages nobody else created) by a given contributor is what I'd be looking for. Thanks! Zephyrad 18:56, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

user:Interiot will create such lists on request. -- Rick Block (talk) 21:29, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Random article - category selection?

I just love this link - but if there was a way to choose a category(ies) to get a random page from - that would be awesome. Making it selectively random.

Is there such a feature? Or can we have one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.24.31.125 (talk • contribs)

AFAIK, one can restrict the namespace across which random works by qualifying Special:Random with that namespace; Special:Random/talk, for example, takes one to a random article talk page. I don't think we've a feature by which one may restrict random to any particular category; should that estimation be correct, though, you might neverthess query VPT apropos of the feasibility of such a function. Joe 21:08, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

braiding

How do you braid a four leather strand braid?

This page is for questions regarding the use of Wikipedia. Try asking your question at the Miscellaneous reference desk instead or check out our article on braids. --Nebular110 22:01, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to use endnotes to add citations to an article?

I'm trying to figure out how to add citations to an article by using endnotes -- ie number in article corresponding to a page citation from a reference in a notes section at the end. (See article on Gerrit Smith, for example.)

I've tried copying the referencing format used in that article, but can't seem to make it work so that i'm able to see if the numbers and their corresponding citations are coming out properly. Can you direct me to someplace in the helpd section that would give me exact instructions on how to do this -- step by step?

Thanks! Jan Carhart (email address removed to prevent spam)

Basically, you put your endnote withinh tags like this: <ref>Hills, 1987</ref> after the text they are referencing and then put <references/> at the point in the article where you would like the notes to show. --Cherry blossom tree 22:13, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can find more information at Wikipedia:Footnotes and, more generally, at Wikipedia:Citing sources. — QuantumEleven 07:57, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

By far the quickest way to find how to do things around here is to find an article that already has it then click "edit this page" to see the source code. Check out The Stig or 2010 FIFA World Cup for example. Zunaid 10:30, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

leading zero in template

I've just created the template {{Playmate}}. Basically, it takes the year and month and puts them into a URL to link to the Playboy website for a given Playmate. Although, for the month, if a leading zero isn't put in for the single digit months, the link is broken. Is there a way to force the template to put in a leading zero if the number for the month is only a single digit? For an example of the template in an article, see Jamie Westenhiser. Dismas|^(talk) 22:19, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Something like {{#ifexpr: 1 <= {{{2|}}} and {{{2|}}} <= 9 | 0{{#expr: {{{2}}} }} | {{{2|}}} }} (where the month is the second argument) should do the trick. See m:ParserFunctions. -- Rick Block (talk) 22:49, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like that did it. Thanks! Dismas|^(talk) 23:06, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have been accused of being a sockpupet

How do I defend my name against this blatent lie? How do I get the page the liar posted about me removed? How can I get the person who did this to pay for spreading the lie? Kilz 22:24, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll comment on that page. I'm unsure of how these things get taken off, but I doubt it will last long, from a cursory examination. --Cherry blossom tree 22:33, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 22

Table of contents lost when logged in

I noticed this just today. Perhaps it's a temporary glitch. When I view a page while not logged in, the page's Table of Contents is generated in the usual way from the subheads. When I log in and return to the same page (or any page), the Table of Contents does not appear. I haven't changed a Preference that I know of. Any ideas? Tawagoto 01:41, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The only reason i can think of why the TOC wouldn't appear at all is if you have changed the preferences. Even if you don't remember changing any preference, it may be worth going to your "my preferences", click on the "Misc" tab, and check if the "Show table of contents (for pages with more than 3 headings)" box is ticked.

If the TOC doesn't appear, but there's a small box with "Contents [show]", then you should click on the "[show]" bit. --`/aksha 01:47, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I didn't notice that option this was there. Tawagoto 17:48, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What to do - I believe a page should be moved, but may not even be worth keeping

I believe that John Lewis (department store) should be moved to John Lewis (department store) branches as that titl better reflects its content. However I'm not sure if it is even noteworthy at all; should I simultaneously nominate it for renaming and deleting, and see what the consensus is, or is there a special procedure for this.

Also, I am an employee of the John Lewis Partnership, and as such a co-owner of this. Does this mean I shouldn't touch any pages related to it to avoid adopting a [WP:POV|POV]]? So far I've added one article related to it, and I left a message on the associated talk page declaring my interest and left the message on the talk page of another user who had it on his todo list, asking him to check for POV. Is this sufficient, or should I refrain entrely to avoid falling foul of the rules?

Finally, sorry for the newbie questions, but thats just what I am. Many thanks, Davidprior 02:14, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Be bold. Move the page, then nominate it for deletion.
It does not mean you cannot edit the articles, certainly not. It does mean you should be careful when you edit the articles. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 03:30, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading Image

I didn't realize that you sent me a message. I was just trying to format my bio. I uploaded my picture, but I can't find it. How do you get the photo next to my name? Thanks, GaryGHuminy 04:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, your biograpy has been deleted under Wikipedia's Criteria for speedy deletion criterion A7 (biography that does not assert the importance or significance of the subject). All articles on Wikipedia must be about notable subjects, and all statements must be verifiable, and cited from reliable sources. Also, please take a look at our autobiography guidelines. Thanks, Tangot a ngo 04:33, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image reverted to previous version, but not appearing in articles

The image at Image:EmilyTTTE.jpg was reverted, due to a user initiating an edit war (on Railway engines (Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends)) without discussion, and changing the image at its source. This change was reverted.

However, since reverting, the image has not been appearing within articles. It links to the "image page" without a problem, but the image itself does not appear. Assistance would be appreciated. Gonzerelli 05:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just went to Railway engines (Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends) and the picture appeared fine. Maybe it's just a problem with your computer (caching a version of the page when the picture wasn't there?). It defintely works fine for me. --`/aksha 02:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Literary Criticism

For a Literature project, I have to find some sources of literary criticism for The Picture of Dorian Gray. Unfortunately, I havent' been able to find any. With credible sources taking priority, are there any pages/links of literary criticism. Thank you.

Not sure. Try this question over at humanities reference desk. The help desk is for questions regarding use of the wikipedia. —Mitaphane _talk 14:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can I search Featured Articles for a specific topic?

I am a new Wikipedian preparing my first article. It is about a 17th century English colonial cemetery in Connecticut that has not been written about in Wikipedia. I am looking for good examples to follow. How can I see a list of Featured Articles (if there ever were any) that deal with cemeteries? --OWL 13:18, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There isn't a direct way to search featured articles only. However, you can browse a list at Wikipedia:Featured articles. Oakland Cemetery is the only article with the word "cemetery" in its name, so perhaps that can provide you with a start? --McMillin24 _contribs^talk 13:53, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! --OWL 14:05, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Iraq demography.jpg

This map shows in the article about the Iraq Commission - maybe elsewhere, since it's not specific to that. (It's an excellent map, BTW.)

http:/upwiki/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/Iraq_demography.jpg

There is a color of "light blue" (my words) that shows on the map around Amarah in southeastern Iraq -- and between there and Nasiriah running down to near Basra.

The map legend does not identify what that color means.

Can someone check that and put the color in the legend, if appropriate.

Thank you, Joe Halbach,Sr Nassau Bay, Texas.

[NOT INTENDED AS ARTICLE CRITICISM NOR FOR PUBLICATION]

http:/upwiki/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/Iraq_demography.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Iraq_demography.jpg

Well the image has no stated source. Looking at the wikicommons page it was uploaded by user Mesopotamia. I'm guessing he's the same person as User:Mesopotamia by looking at his edit history. Try asking him about it. —Mitaphane _talk 14:30, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

14:34, 22 October 2006

Carpetbagger article

(UTC)Rlboone1917ro←––-§–—…°≈≠±−×÷←→§Rlboone1917 14:34, 22 October 2006 (UTC)r§14:34, 22 October 2006 (UTC)14:34, 22 October 2006 (UTC)~~r14:34, 22 October 2006 (UTC)Rlboone1917rI tried yesterday to post an extension to your “carpetbagger” page and decided it was meant only for mensa people or rocket scientists, so I gave up.[reply]

What I tried to submit is verifiable by several books, an historian, and by my personal records. My flight log book which was kept daily is in my possession.

IIf this interests you the best was to ”talk” would be by e-mail because I am rather new to the computer and do have some difficulty with it.

Robert L. Boone [street address redacted]

Telephone # [removed]

I'm not sure I understand the problem you're having. If you're having trouble using Wikipedia, check out Wikipedia:Introduction and Wikipedia:Tutorial for a general overview of how to do things. Also, I've removed your telephone number -- communication on Wikipedia is done through user talk pages, never over the phone and rarely be email. -Elmer Clark 02:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Roman Numerals

Hi: What is the preference of showing the possessive of a Roman numeral? What if the George IV's ... or George IVs .... I am very curious about this. I came across one the other day, but left it alone (III's). Since I am on the same subject: NASA's or NASAs? How would I show plural on the above examples? (NASAs?)

Regards, LarryBH

's would indicate possession. It is NASA's space shuttles, but there aren't multiple NASAs. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 17:28, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your assistance. LarryBH

Navigation bars

I noticed on some wiki pages that on the bottom there is a navigation box for all pages relevant to the main wiki...is it possible to create one, and if so, how would I be able to do it?

I think you talking about Templates. Just check that out. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 17:30, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More specifically there is {{Succession}}. Or did you mean something like {{United_States}}? If so click on edit and look at their source code. Shinhan 05:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fruit of the poisionous tree doctrine

I posted a situation that is confusing to me and to tell you the truth is just plain scaring the hell out of me and am asking for input from persons who may have some feedback regarding my situation. Perhaps this website is not what I believed it was for, and that was having some open communications with others that may be able to lend an opinion or assistance in where to locate that assistance.

Rusty —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rusty42 (talk • contribs) .

Sorry, we are a collaborative online encyclopedia, not a forum to gather opinions from people. You may have better luck elsewhere on the Internet. Good luck, Tangot a ngo 17:45, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It would perhaps be helpful if you gave more explanation to clue people into just what you're talking about. Apparently, from your talk page, you created an article and it was deleted due to a lack of indication of notability. I'm not sure why this should "scare the hell out of you". You're not in any kind of "situation"; as far as I can see you're not being threatened with banning or blocking or any other sanction; you merely attempted an article contribution which was judged not appropriate. It might even be possible to create a better article about that subject (I have no idea exactly what it is since the article is deleted) that would be kept. And you should sign your posts. *Dan T.* 17:45, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, the deleted article concerned a real life situation the user was experiencing. It was a first-person account of what happened to them, and not a Wikipedia threat. Cheers, Tangot a ngo 17:50, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note that we already have an article on Fruit of the poisonous tree.--Fuhghettaboutit 18:01, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image question still confusing

Copy of the answer and my further confusion on this topic. Still unsure, still need clarification.

This was a question of mine in the last set of questions. Got an answer, partial, and followed on at that place. Nothing further. So I copy the answer and my further querry here, hoping for clarification. --Dumarest 18:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

We don't accept "Wikipedia-only" images, any more than we would accept "Wikipedia-only" text. They're not free content. Low resolution versions that can be used commercially and allow derivatives are absolutely fine, but we need a specific license (GFDL, CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, etc.). Once we have that, you would add the license template to the image description page. Note that the email indicating the license release should go to permissions AT wikimedia.org, not to you. I hope that this clears everything up. Jkelly 16:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Fine, that is what I sort of thought. The permission is full, except that the image I upload must be the low resolution item [with the copyrigtt holder identified so that if a full resolution version is wanted, the 'owner' can be contacted. But I gather the e-mail MUST be from the copyright holder to Wiki, not fron copyright holder to me and I forward it to Wiki? --Dumarest 16:48, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Advise to new users regarding Trademark and Libel laws

I have tried to find information in Wikipedia regarding Trademark "infringement" and any articles on "Libel" but there dont appear to be any so I have taken the liberty to link to this external website here; [1] which I have also posted on this Wikipedia Help page that gives good helpful information. I feel that this issue is very important to understand especially to all new users who wish to chat in Wikipedia or any other public forums. I would like to add if I may especially to what Finlay McWalter pointed out previously on my talk page, and what all new users should be aware of is that, if any company specifically "requests" "not" to have its Trademark displayed publicly, then to do so would be an infringement,Fact Finder 04:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

--Dumarest 18:25, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it can be an e-mail forwarded by you to permisions AT wikimedia DOT org. - Tangot a ngo 18:37, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean info (at) wikimedia.org?,OK I see that now its with permission instead so its permissions (at) wikimedia.org and not info, thank's for that Tangotango, Fact Finder 04:28, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think "permissions" was misspelled in the e-mail address above. *Dan T.* 12:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For some reason Guy you are determined to have the word EC0PAVE dragged on to this and other pages, cross linked and edited in such a way that it constantly appears in the page meta tags I mean have a look at this Help pages source and you can see that the word EC0PAVE is added to the keyword meta, what this means therefore is that you are determined to have this show up in search engines and end up coming up in search results that point directly to you and your own comments and talkpages so my question is "who's on a mission"?, If you are after fame and recognition Guy, may I suggest that you are going about it in a totally wrong way and you are also making the Wikipedia Foundation (Wikipedia) look bad by trying use it as a personal platform to run your own PR and popularity campaign. Because you are an Wikipedia Administrator in a "Encylopedia" and not a chat forum, you should know better than to do this, I made a brief search in Wikipedia and the internet and it appears that you alone are the only Wikipedia admin that seems to follow this practise of cross linking pages to search words that point to companies and in return to you and your comments. You have also decided to drag the above EC0PAVE, GE0320, WEB Masters, Help1ng and fact1diot into here the Help pages where I presented this notice out of goood will to all new users about Trademarks and this article had absolutely nothing to do with the above mob. I sincerely hope that you are not out to try to capitalise on this word EC0PAVE AUSTRAL1A, GE0320 or any other trademark protected words that appears in Wikipedia just so that you could get recognition and advance your own "Talkpages"?. The worrying sign that shows me that I am correct in what I have just said is that you refused to acknowledge my question and request to "not" continue the practice to print the word EC0PAVE in my talk pages or have it reworded like I reguested so that it does not contribute to search results on this page or any other page, but as surely as night follows day you have done it again (Sighs shakes head). Also since you have made no mention about you being my "mentor" admin as I requested in my talk page, I must assume this means that you dont wish to be one and you dont wish to help a new user such as my self learning the ropes in Wikipedia which further shows that to do so would most propably interfere with your personal PR campaign in Wikipedia,(shakes head). My only hope Guy is that this sort of provocative bad will behaviour stops against me and other new users in Wikipedia,Fact Finder 11:25, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

People understand your comments; they just believe them to have no basis in reality. I can mention all the trademarks I want without breaking the law, so long as I'm not using them deceptively to confuse consumers about products. McDonald's, Coca-Cola, Xerox, Kleenex, Google, Rollerblade, Ping-Pong, Realtor (bet you didn't even know that some of these were trademarks!), Disney, Disneyland, Walt Disney World, The Greatest Show On Earth, Star Trek, Star Wars... and, now that I think of it, Ecopave, Ecopave, Ecopave, Ecopave!!!!! *Dan T.* 12:09, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Be my quest Dan (smiles) if you believe that they have given Wikipedia permission to have their trademarks cross linked and added to this pages (source code) keyword meta tags and hence posted to the internet, Good luck lol, Fact Finder 12:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC) Looks like we are going to be discussing this issue for a long time yet (lol), Im sorry Dan, but I can only say what I know, nothing more nothing less, this whole Trademark issue here is about "permission" to use and how it is used, my pont is that if the permission to show a Trademark word on a particular website source code which by the way has to be added on purpose (intentionally), is denied by the trademark holder, then this is a clear trademark violation and Im sure that many "new" users are not aware of this fact (smiles), see these interesting examples of Trademark use on the web and what damage its unauthorised usage can cause http://www.linksandlaw.com/news-update41.htm Fact Finder 13:24, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a good example which I would like to point out, above you can see where it says permissions@wikimedia.org it is obviously being changed to show only permissions (at) wikimedia.org so that it does not show up in the page source, this is my point in regards to all these other trademark words such as EC0PAVE, GE0320 also etc, come on guys lets have a "fair" suck of a sauce bottle here shall we, (laughs) Fact Finder 13:22, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you webmaster for deleting the words from this page's meta, I believe that I can now move on and concentrate at learning how to edit and contribute constructively in Wikipedia Encyclopedia without having to spend all my available (scarse) time responding and defending against provocative assertions and innuendo made by one one or two energetic admins. Fact Finder 10:54, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what you're talking about regarding "meta tags"; nobody has ever been placing your precious trademarks in this site's meta tags that I am aware of. The meta tags are set up by the developers of the site, not the regular editors or admins. All that was under discussion here was your ridiculous assertion that it was somehow an infringement for people to mention trademarked names in the course of discussion: McDonald's, Xerox, Roto-Rooter, NutraSweet, iPod, Sony, Lexus, AT&T... Ecopave Ecopave Ecopave!!!!! I don't have the power to add or drop anything from the site's meta tags, so that's not even an issue here. *Dan T.* 14:06, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Editor Review question

If nobody has reviewed me at my editor review for a while, am I allowed to delete the current reviews there and move my request to the top of the page so it would get more attention? I'd really like to know more about what people think about my contributions. --The Great Llama^{(speak to the Llama!)} 21:49, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't actually have an answer to your question. But i do have a suggestion if you're just wanting more people to reply to your reviews. I've noticed another editor who added something like "now on editor review" (with a link to their review page) onto their signiture. It seems to be a good idea - if you're just wanting more people to review you. --`/aksha 02:08, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. --The Great Llama^{(speak to the Llama!)} 21:26, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed to recover/salvage recently created page.

I have has several attempts at creating and saving a new page but it is not found on the site. I have tried several of the 'help' email contacts but have hd no response from anyone. Can someone please assist me to recover the page 'Police Rugby League (Victoria)'. Thanks, —The preceding unsigned comment was added by VPRLC (talk • contribs) .

Do you mean Police Rugby League (Victoria)? It was deleted October 14 since it apparently did not make any claim about the notability of this league (see Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, point #7 under "articles"). In general, you can find out what happened to a deleted article using the deletion log, see special:log/delete. -- Rick Block (talk) 22:41, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

YES that is the page I was talking about. The page was in reference to the Police Rugby League Club of Victoria, a first for the state of Victoria and notable for many reasons. It contains the same type of content and information as other sports/club pages on the site. I am unsure why my page was deleted, yet others exist that are no different to this one. Can you tell me please how I can have it included on the site as others have obviously been able to do. Thanks, VPRLC.

At this point, the page has been tagged for deletion as a recreation of a deleted page. I've added a notice that you'd like to discuss this. I'll leave a note on your talk about what to do now. -- Rick Block (talk) 01:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info, although I am still confused about it. Check out Oxford Cavaliers Rugby or London Skolars, these are just 2 of many rugby league clubs who have pages with the same content as our clubs page. Why are some ok and ours isn't. I can see no difference between them. VPRLC 03:23, 23 October 2006 (UTC) VPRLC[reply]

Rick, can you help me please with a direct link to my deleted page as I can not find it with a search under user name and article. This is becoming a bit too much trouble I think, for something that should have been reasonably straight forward. VPRLC 11:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Imitation

On Talk:Dalip Singh IP 204.42.25.213 has imitated other users and made personal attacks against me. I left the npa2 template on his talk page, but is there any punishment for imitating other users? T H L 22:19, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Given that personal attacks are very against the rules, i would think so. You should report your problem to Wikipedia:Personal attack intervention noticeboard. --`/aksha 02:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They had never been warned before, or edited for that matter. I went to report it, but I read that they had to have received both the npa2 and npa3 templates. I gave them the npa2 template, but I am wondering if imitation is a violation in itself. I had finally brought a long and bitter feud to an end without having to get 2 very good editors banned, and this person is trying to stir it up again. I would like this IP banned, but I can't get them banned for the PA alone. Would the fact that they imitated another user give me the right to report them despite them not being warned before hand? T H L 03:17, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

adding pictures

I'm a member, and I've noticed that there are alot of articles about important people that do not have pictures. When I go to "edit," there is no way to add a picture. How do I add pictures?Tiger4038 23:04, 22 October 2006 (UTC)Tiger4038 (member)[reply]

To upload an image or other file to Wikipedia, go to Special:Upload (found as "Upload file" on every page's left sidebar toolbox). Before you upload anything, be sure to read the information presented on the upload file page and at Wikipedia:Uploading images. Very few images on the Internet are appropriate for use on Wikipedia, given copyright laws. McMillin24 _contribs^talk 23:10, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For details on how to add an image to an article, see Wikipedia:Extended image syntax. The most common way is to do it like this [[Image:[name of image]|thumb|A short text describing the image]]. So for instace, if I want to add a smiley to a page, I write [[Image:Smiley.svg|thumb|I'm a smiley. Cheers!]]. The result can be seen on the right. However, as Mcmillion24 says, be SURE that you understand the copyright reasons first! Oskar 23:43, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And be sure to add <br clear='all'> at the end (as has been done here) if you don't want the next section to overlap into the section containing the image. --hydnjo talk 23:59, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Or you can use {{-}}. Chris M. 00:19, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh! Thanks that's easier to remember :-) --hydnjo talk 00:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 23

Unnamed question

I have edited an article and need to cite my references in the references section of the main article. How do I do that without disprupting the order? Also, how do I get my footnotes to correspond to the correct order of the refernce section? ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lalena 1n (talk • contribs) (I think ~~~~ was intended.)

Use the <ref> tag to add footnotes to your articles. This tag is easy and convenient because it allows you to cite your sources within your text and then have them automatically numbered and added to your References section at the end of the article. When you want to cite a source simply use the <ref> tag to cite the source right next to the phrase that needs backing up. Example: Haliburton park is the largest park in the world<ref>Bill Harton (2005). http://www.linkhere.com. Retrieved Mar. 3 2005</ref>. Then, at the end of your article, add the following template to include all of the citations in your article: {{subst:footnotes}}

More details/examples at Wikipedia: Footnotes. --Hetar 00:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Try using cite.php. See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cite.php#How_it_works - Mgm|^(talk) 09:21, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

anathomy and phisiology

naming of skeletal muscle?

example of origin and insertion on skeletal muscle?

Try the science reference desk. The help desk is only for questions about Wikipedia itself. However, you're going to have to rephrase those into coherent questions if you expect a helpful response. -Elmer Clark 02:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hans Moleman minor edit

Hgmoleman 03:28, 23 October 2006 (UTC)hi Helpdesk,[reply]

I edited the entry on Hans Moleman yesterday 22 oct, but when I checked this morning on Wiki, my edit had gone. what happened?

(the edit made the point there's another Hans Moleman. A real person even -me. I am the china correspondent for the Volkskrant, a major daily in The Netherlands. check out www.volkskrant.nl.

best regards,

Hans Moleman
ShanghaiHgmoleman 03:28, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hgmoleman. Most likely, because you are not notable enough to be mentioned in that article. See WP:NOTE. Also, that article most likely would apply to the Hans Moleman on the Simpsons only. Other Hans Moleman's would be mentioned in other articles.

(After edit conflict) :Hi Hans. If you are notable enough for a Wikipedia entry, then someone in the future may create that article (it's not a good idea for you to do so; please see WP:AUTO and WP:COI). The edit you made added a lot of information that is irrelevant to the article on the Simpsons' character. It was also material that was not written in the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. While it is true that someone searching for you on Wikipedia would only find the Simpson's character, if someone searched for me or most people they would find nothing. If in the future an article is created on you and meets our standards for notability, then that article can be named somthing like "Hans Moleman (correspondent)", and the Simpsons character article can get a short disambiguating header such as "for the correspendent named Hans Moleman, see Hans Moleman (correspondent).--Fuhghettaboutit 03:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please Help Me

How Do You Make Wikipedia Your Homepage? ... Or Can You ?

It depends on what browser you're using. For Firefox, you would go to Preferences, the General, then input "en.wikipedia.org" as your homepage (or "en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page", but they both go to the same place). I don't know how for other browsers, though. —Keakealani 03:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

After edit conflict:

It depends what browser you use. From the Wikipedia Main Page:

Internet Explorer 5.0-6.x:

Tools --> Internet Options --> Use Current

Internet Explorer 7.x:

Near the HOME icon, underneath, to the right of the address bar, there's a little down arrow, click that, then click "Add or Change Home Page"

Netscape:

Not sure off hand, but look in View --> Prefrences, Tools --> Options, one of those menu's will have info on it.

If you're still not sure, press F1, and search the help for "start" or "home". — Deon555^talk_Review 03:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

lost article

Please help if you can. I starting working on a new page with the following title: "A Protestant Consideration of Theosis." I started on October 20, 2006. I have not been able to find my page at all. Can you tell me what happened? Pastorjeff9278 03:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC) Pastorjeff9278[reply]

It appears it was deleted because it didn't have any context. See the Deletion Log for more details. —Keakealani 03:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would recommend you store an article under your user space before creating the article itself. When you get a fair sized stub, and then create the article. To create an article under your user space type Special:Mypage/Article name into the search box. This should bring up a message saying We don't have an article named User:Pastorjeff9278/Article Name and then give you the option to edit it. Select that and create the article. This will prevent it from being deleted, and when you have an article large enough to not be deleted, and then create the actual article. If you need me to say that more clearly, let me know. Cheers T H L 04:00, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"A Protestant Consideration of Theosis." sounds a lot like an essay. Wikipedia doesn't allow essays. Please see WP:NOT. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

citing wikipedia

i used wikipedia as a source for my history project, and i need to put into MLA format citation. how would i do that?

Don't use Wikipedia as a source unless you know that your teacher will accept it. Most teachers don't because they say it is biased and inaccurate. Wikipedia itself also discourages using it as a source. A good idea would be to go to the article you are citing and look at the sources and external links on that page. You should be able to find the information that you are citing in one of those sources, and it is guaranteed that your teacher will accept it. T H L 04:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you really want to cite the Wikipedia article, you can click on "Cite this article" link which is the last item in the left sidebar. That will show you citation examples in several styles including MLA. Shinhan 05:47, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My "log in" won't stick

I've searched all the help materials I can find on the site, but haven't found a solution to this. When I log in, the login is accepted but as soon as I move to another page, the upper right corner goes back to "Sign in/create account". It doesn't matter whether I check "Remember me" or not. For the brief time I remain signed in (from the "you have successfully signed in" page), I can reach my contribution list, but not my preferences or talk pages. I've set Firefox (my standard browser) as an "Exception" on Windows Firewall, but no effect. Exactly the same thing occurs when I use IE, so it isn't Firefox (although I did clear all cookies in both programs, just in case). Any help would be appreciated. - Clarifythis

If you're visiting pages you've visited before, it could be caching. On internet explorer, try "alt+F5" to refresh the page.

Also, did you accept cookies from wikipedia? On Internet explorer, you should go to tools --> internet options --> privacy --> sites --> and make sure you have allowed cookies from wikipedia. That used to cause similar problems for me. --`/aksha 05:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid that's not it. In both programs, I cleared the cache and deleted all cookies before accepting cookies from en.wikipedia.org, but it made no difference. Thanks for trying, though. - Clarifythis

This question comes up quite a bit here. Try following this advice (taken from an old version of MediaWiki:Loginsuccess): 'First make sure that cookies are enabled on your computer, and then try checking the 'Remember me' box. If neither of those work, please try this alternative (but slower) connection.' (The alternative connection seems to help users on satellite ISPs the most.) --ais523 13:11, 23 October 2006 (U T C)

The alternate connection worked! Thank you so much. I am indeed a satellite ISP user, and I had no idea it could cause problems. Now I can sign my comment! ClarifyThis 13:34, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My entry

I did an extensive job writing my entry and now I find it edited t 20% of what it was. How and why did this happen? Greg Theakston <email removed> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.86.92.115 (talk • contribs)

You should take a look at the history of that page. The person who did the removing said "remove copyright violation from http://www.toptwothreefilms.com/people/gregtheakston.html." --`/aksha 05:10, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Which means that it is not allowed to post copyrighted material on Wikipedia, as Wikipedia is under GFDL copyright. Shinhan 05:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see that any of your contributions (edits) at Pure Imagination (comics) all made on October 1 by 69.86.92.115 have been reverted (deleted) by anyone at this time. --hydnjo talk 07:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page blanking

Which guideline forbids deleting content from Talk pages (not user talk, I mean article talk)? And, is there a warning template specifically to warn against blanking article talk pages? Shinhan 05:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:TALK#Basic_rules_for_all_talk_pages has some information about blanking talk pages. Not sure if there's a warning template, though.. I'll see if I can find one. —Keakealani 05:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(header added)

My article was deleted. Is there someone who can help me have it put back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coorsman (talk • contribs)

What was the title of your article? --hydnjo talk 08:47, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Did you check the deletion log to see the reason it was deleted? - 131.211.210.15 09:14, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Browser images

A recent edit of mine to the Wikipedia article on Mac OS X was reverted by another Wikipedia editor for the reason, "Policy: browser images must contain Wikipedia front page." Where is this policy stated? —Muhandis 10:14, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The editor who reverted wasn't completed accurate. It's not a policy that browser images must contain the Wikipedia main page—merely a standard convention. Check out Wikipedia:Software screenshots for more information. The biggest problem with the image you replaced is that, while it may be close to a default configuration, to a non-computer geek like me, it looks fairly complicated. Consider taking a new screenshot of 10.4.8 without the terminal configuration and re-uploading. McMillin24 _contribs^talk 10:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, McMillin24, for taking the time to answer my question patiently and in detail. You guys are the greatest! —Muhandis 11:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Link question

I have entered articles based on research into my home village. Now I should like to link them.... but just do not understand your FAQ about links. Far too complx for a non-web person?

Can you explain in simple English how I can insert links ? Please.

Thanks in advance.

Mike Worsam (email removed)

Feel free to see WP:QUICK for the quick and dirty guide to editing. For external links, [http://google.com Search!] would generate Search!. For links inside Wikipedia, [[Google|Search!]] would generate Search!. Hope that helps! Luna Santin 10:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

what is lukemia?

I have typed the question in wikipedia a couple of times and wanted to know what it is, how many different types there are, and if it is treatable. I read online that it is a disease that usually occurs in older people (60 and up). Someone I know who is in his 20's was diagnost with it recently and I wanted more information.

Spelling - it is leukemia. Search on that term. --Dumarest 11:33, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Click on this link - Leukemia - Adrian Pingstone 14:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to create article boxes

Are there any websites out there that demonstrate how to create article boxes?
I'm not sure if i'm using the correct name, but an example of what i mean can be found on the science portal of this site [Science Portal].

I'm interested in creating a box similar to the one named Selected Article where you can edit it's content.

Thanks

They are called templates. See Wikipedia:Template namespace ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 11:04, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do you link Search words to a page?

I recently made a new page, but I'd like "versions" of the word the post refers to to bring you to that page when typed in the Search box. How do I do that?

One option is to wait about two months for the search database to be updated. The other is to place a Wikipedia:redirect from the search term to the page; create the page whose name is the desired search term and type

#REDIRECT [[target of link]]

(this will connect the search term to the page). Hope that helps. --ais523 11:41, 23 October 2006 (U T C)

How do I start the hangman tournament

My name is up on the list of this rounds tournament players, and I recieved mail telling me how to start the tournament, however I cannot make sense of it. On what page do I type in the code to start and how do I edit the page so that it will have the appropriate ammount of blanks? I don't want anyone to think I'm not interested any more.

jelly1000

I can't do much better than repeat the instructions on User talk:Jelly1000. You could ask Ian Manka User talk:IanManka for more details, as he sent you the message. --ais523 15:19, 23 October 2006 (U T C)

Reducing image size

how do you reduce the size of a photo that you have uploaded. See the info on US House of Representatives Page Program.

See Help:Image for information on including an image into a page at reduced size. --ais523 15:19, 23 October 2006 (U T C)

I've reduced the size of the photo from 300px to 250px.[2] Addhoc 16:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia articles in search engines

Hello, I'm going to be contributing some articles on a few well-known actresses I represent, (whom I have their permission to do so). My question is...how or what do i do when writing an article, so that if someone types in "jane doe actress" into say a google or yahoo search...the wikipedia article is one of the results? Thank you very much for your time and help. --Juliasweet1970 14:28, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can't change the Google or Yahoo results from Wikipedia; Wikipedia is affilated with neither company. Their software often decides to put Wikipedia pages high up on the list, but Wikipedia has no control over this. If you're planning to start articles on actresses you 'represent', it may be worth reading Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and the notability criteria for people; entries which look like advertising are often deleted. --ais523 15:19, 23 October 2006 (U T C)

Very helpful...thanks for the reply....I understand your policy now too. I Wasn't interested in advertising, just an extremely fond user of wikipedia who wanted to contribute articles on highly notable people i know very well. i will refrain from adding these articles either way...i do think your conflict of interest statement makes sense and i respect its intentions. will contribute articles on people and events that do not pose any chance of conflict of interest. thanks for the tips and wikipedia! best to you.--140.247.43.173 16:28, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jason Elam

Jason Elam did not kick a 63 yard field goal against Jacksonville; it was against the Cowboys. Right before the half, Jason Elam kicked a 63 yard field goal in miled high stadium. Also, in the same game Terrell Davis ran for over a 100 yards against a good cowboys defense. Can any correct the error in the information given in Wikipedia.

Sincerely, Juan Munoz

Anyone can correct the information given in Wikipedia; all you have to do is click 'edit this page' at the top of the page you have found the mistake in. (You don't even have to create an account, but there are some reasons why you might like to.) Your changes will be visible immediately. (It would help if you mentioned a source for the change; otherwise, other editors might not believe you and change it back.) See Wikipedia:How to edit a page. --ais523 15:12, 23 October 2006 (U T C)

This entry is being used as a vehicle to attack its subject

Hi guys, I'm new to Wikipedia so this may just be something that has to be endured, but thought I'd ask.

The entry for "Wandering Scribe" is being hijacked by folk who have a grievance against its subject, a female blogger who is having a book published by a major publisher. There are legitimate questions to be asked about the blogger's veracity, but the hijackers consistently delete additions to the entry that provide good answers to their questions or disagree with their point of view. The entry has effectively become an extension of a blog set up to rubbish the Wandering Scribe blogger and which is linked at the foot of the entry - [3]. This is a pretty ugly piece of work. Is there anything that can be done to maintain the entry as essentially factual? I know the hijackers are trying to get the entry deleted, as they see it as a publicity stunt by Wandering Scribe's book publisher, but I wonder if this may not be a bad thing.

LeafffLeafff 16:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the objectionable material. It isn't perfect, but it will probably be deleted within the next few days anyway. --Cherry blossom tree 16:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are many ways to get others to comment on a possible lack of NPOV. WP:RFC is one way to call other editors to help deal with a conflict. If the "hijackers" violate policies such as WP:3RR, you can report them to administrators. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 16:54, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the 'imminent deletion' notice - I believe I'm totally impartial here as I've only heard of WanderingScribe through the BBC magazine, which I read frequently. So long as the article is written from NPOV I can't see why it should be deleted - it's not providing free advertising unless people happen to be searching for it anyway, in which case they won't find encouragement or discouragement from buying the book in the article. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. --YFB ¿ 17:11, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your efforts in sorting this out. The hijackers are being pretty persistent in wrecking your work. If they continue I'll report their identities. Leafff 08:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Joe Theismann Page

I think there is some vandalism on Joe Theismann's wikipedia entry but don't know how to alert anyone to it or remove it myself

You can remove vandalism by clicking on the 'edit this page' link at the top of the page and changing it yourself; see Wikipedia:How to edit a page. Help:Reverting gives a slightly more complicated method that can be used to speed up vandalism removal with practice. --ais523 17:15, 23 October 2006 (U T C)

marking pages

I know I saw it somewhere when I was first looking over the information about editing pages but I cannot find the information on how to mark a page as in progress. If you could point me in the right direction, that would be great. Thank you!

Try the templates on this template page: Wikipedia:Template messages/Maintenance Cheers --Lethaniol 17:37, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to make collapsable templates?

I am currently working on templates covering the championship teams of the NBA, such as

The problem is, these templates are quite clunky, especially when a player wins multiple titles. How do I make collapsable tables like e.g. in wikipedia.de/Schalke 04 at the bottom [4]? Thnx! Onomatopoeia 18:04, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The template you point out in the German Wikipedia project utilizes a Dynamic navigation box. For instructions on how to make your templates hidden in a similar manner, check out the directions in the link above. Hope that helps! McMillin24 _contribs^talk 21:38, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Onomatopoeia 08:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Address for Bob Scarpitto

Professional Football...

1-7-39 Born

College: Notre Dame

Pro: AFL 1961-1962 San Diego Chargers

    AFL 1963-1967 Denver Broncos
    AFL 1968 Boston Patriots

Hello, can we help you? This is a Help Desk to ask questions on using Wikipedia. If you have a question, please ask. Otherwise, you may be interested in learning how to create an article. Welcome to Wikipedia! —Keakealani 18:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Russian Copyright Law issues

What do you think about commons:Commons:Village pump#Russian Copyright Law issues concerning edits in Wikipedia made by Russian citizens? --217.118.90.1 19:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1. wikipedia authors continue to hold all the rights (indeed the GFDL doesn't work if they don't since there would be no way to inforce it). 2. The fallback would be that the Wikipedia servers are not in Russia.Geni 19:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Replacing a photo

I attempted to replace a photo in the article for USS Texas BB-35 but my photo doesn't show up in the article. Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks! Jacobst 19:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You will may need to purge the image and/or article. You also might need to bypass your cache when refreshing the page. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 19:56, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How Do I Wickify and Categorize My Article?

I have an article on Karl Kenda, a deceased 20th century artist, and also have uploaded several of his paintings.

I'd like to Wickify and Categorize the article and cannot figure out how.

I'd also like to link the article to the paintings in Images. I suspect there's a way to do that, but, again, I can't figure out how.

Thank you.

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Thank you for your contribution. First, you do not need to do anything. Don't forget that Wikipedia is a community project. These tags on the article you first wrote are an invitation to the whole community to improve it. "Wikify" means to make it follow the Wikipedia house style. This includes little things like putting the subject of the article in bold in the first sentence, and making suitable links in the article. Illustrate it if suitably licensed illustrations are available (but see below). "Categorize" is to put the article in suitable categories. If you want to do this yourself, perhaps the best way to learn how is to visit articles for artists you think are of the same school. See how those articles do it. I am very concerned about the paintings you have uploaded, as you have claimed exclusive creator credit. That belongs jointly to the photographer and artist, unless you can demonstrate the painting is out of copyright, which may not happen for another 44 years. (Note that unless some license changed hands, the copyright of a painting belongs to a deceased artist's estate). Notinasnaid 20:04, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

wikipedia

how do you make wikipedia your home page?

Depends on your browser. In Internet Explorer, its in Tools/Options, in Firefox (the browser you should be using), its in Edit/Preferences. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 19:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This question was asked not too far up the page from here. —EdGl 02:53, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to make HTML characters be left untouched

If I add an HTML character encoding, e.g. <ampersand><hash>596<semicolon>, to an article edit, this is changed in the actual article page. How can I make it be left unchanged to show the corresponding character?--EvenT 20:10, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean that what the reader of the article sees will change if you type ɔ (ɔ) (a square box on my browser because I don't have a suitable font to display 'LATIN SMALL LETTER OPEN O') ? Notinasnaid 20:16, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So it is just lack of support of that particular character in the used set? I thought is was changed by the "wiki filter" as I could see that particular character on other web pages (like [5]). But they probably used a font I have that includes that character?--EvenT 21:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That is interesting, and may be as good a theory as any. But there may be a better explanation. (For reference, I use IE6 in Windows). Notinasnaid 22:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

edit

i did an edit and entered an edit summary to describe the edit - but somehow the entire comment did not get put in

it is this edit and summary:

http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Initial_public_offering&diff=83107871&oldid=82950316

it was a revert, and when it did not post correctly, i went back in to re-revert it while adding in the missing phrase on the edit summary, and twice it seemingly entered successfully, but the full comment was still not added either time - is there a reason for this? is there a character limit in the edit summary field?

the edit summary that i had INTENDED is: "revert - entry is unclear and does not make sense in this context"

but the edit that showed up and then could not be changed was the less friendly sounding: "revert - entry is unclear and does not make sense"

what did i do wrong?

thank you Duedilly 20:17, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

there is a character limit but I doubt you hit it. could be that you hit enter at some point but I really don't know.Geni 20:21, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Geni - I thought that might possibly have been the case, but then why did the 2 further attempts to add the phrase in another edit not work? Duedilly 03:31, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Further and more importantly, how can i NOW add that phrase to (ie., edit) the edit summary? I tried twice to make another reversion with the intended edit summary phrase added, and it seemed like it took (when i did a "show preview") but it would not show up after i saved the page. It seems like there should be that functionality, and if there isn't, is there a political reason for not allowing that (editing an edit summary) or is it just a technological limitation that could be fixed? Thanks Duedilly 03:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If the subsequent edits you made do not change the content of the page at all then the edit will not "take" even though it shows up in the preview. You have to create a WP:NULL edit. Please note however that edit summaries are not retroactively editable, both your original and subsequent edit summries will be visible. Zunaid 09:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know

How do you create you own Wikipedia page about you or someone else?

Wikipedia:Your first article has all the good details. Remember that biographies should meet the criteria listed at WP:BIO. Of course, you can always write about yourself or your friends at your user page. --Hetar 21:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Need help with image

Hi,

i've successfully uploaded an image at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Color_target-A8R1_br.jpg

but i can't get it to show up on this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MarsDial

can anyone suggest what i'm doing wrong?

Thanks :-) Tinwelint 21:14, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There was apparently some weird invisible character at the end of the string in the page. I have corrected it for you. --Pekaje 21:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, thanks Pekaje! Tinwelint 21:34, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Personal attack

Hello, regarding the discussion about 'Pre-Visualization', someone, (IP 65.162.12.103) has written some very crude personal attacks about me (all irrelevant of course).

Thank you.

In these cases, kindly send the user a message about Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy (it looks like someone already has) and ask him to stop. If the user keeps it up, you can post a notice here to have someone take administrative action against the person. —Mitaphane _talk 22:37, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

social studie

why are fossil fuels important? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.92.172.123 (talk • contribs)

This question should be addressed at the Humanities Reference desk. Please keep in mind that the Reference Desk is not a place to ask for someone else to do your homework. If you need help with a specific part or concept of your homework, feel free to ask, but please do not post entire homework questions and expect us to give you the answers. McMillin24 _contribs^talk 21:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(after edit conflict) This is a factual question not relating to Wikipedia, so it should be on one of the Reference desks. However, I'll save you time by telling you what they would say: this is an encyclopedia, you can look things up with the box to your left. Have a look at Fossil fuel and don't ask other people to do your homework for you. —Daniel (‽) 21:46, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My Talk

How can I respond to users who have left messages in My Talk?

You can respond on their talk page (just check the page history and it will tell you who left the message). You can go to their talk page from their. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 22:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How do you make a Wiki?

How do you make a Wiki? I only want to know because I really like two shows, Ed, Edd, n Eddy, and Xaiolin Showdown. I really want to make a Wiki on both of them so how do you make a Wiki? I really would like help so please tell me how to make a Wiki. Xaiolin monk 23:17, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are many wiki software packages, but the one that Wikipedia uses is called MediaWiki. Here is a link to the MediaWiki home page which contains information about installing, configuring, and using your own MediaWiki. --MCB 04:09, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See b:Wiki Science/How to start a wiki - Mgm|^(talk) 09:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Funny character in redirect

Can anyone confirm whether funny codes for characters should be in redirects? The example I have is here, where "&euml" is used for "ë". Is there any need for such a redirect? I suspect not, but would appreciate confirmation or correction. Thanks. Carcharoth 23:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure under what system 'ë' appears as '&euml' either, but usually we don't delete redirects unless they're broken or somehow harmful. "Redirects as a result of an implausible typo that were recently created" are deletable on sight, but this isn't recently created and if someone created it, it's probably not implausible. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 01:59, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Carcharoth 15:55, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

calories

how many calories are burned per orgasm? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.80.15.90 (talk • contribs) 23:56, October 23, 2006 (UTC)

Try Orgasm. --Alex (Talk) 23:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to ask at the reference desk. This page is for help with Wikipedia. jd || talk || 00:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't bother the ref desk. Our first answer will be, "It depends on whether you are sexually active or just lie there." alteripse 01:27, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 24

Discussion of John Calvin

You wrote: "Calvin self-consciously molded his thinking along biblical lines. He labored to preach and teach what he believed the Bible taught. Just as anyone else, however, he stood in the midst of a history and culture from which he could never fully extricate himself, because he was gay." Yet you offer supporting evidence for such an assertion. May God have mercy on you.

Wikipedia is not a person. Wikipedia is a collaborative effort, and once in a while, people come around and vandalize pages. If this is what you are talking about, feel free to remove such nonsense. --Wooty Woot? | contribs 00:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism removed. I'm astounded it lasted 4 hours... it was relatively subtle. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 00:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, I was about to do that. I got a chuckle out of it at least. Cheers. --Wooty Woot? | contribs 00:33, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

who is the author of wikipedia?

There is no "author" of Wikipedia (see above), though I think you might be asking for citation information. If you want to cite an article (for an essay for example), go to the relevant page and click "Cite This Article" on the sidebar. --Wooty Woot? | contribs 00:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WHMIS

1. W.H.M.I.S (Workplace Haazardous Material Information System) was legislatedin 1987 and is also know as the ------------ Legislation I want the missing answer for this Question

You might try the reference desk. This page is for help with using Wikipedia. However, bear in mind they do not answer homework questions. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 01:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A Stolen Life

A couple of days ago I noticed that my bio had been chopped to 20% of my original posting, and asked the help desk about it. Turns out that Adventures Into Digital publishing demanded its removal. This is my standard bio, I provided it to them, and I own the copyright. As my granny used to say "This burns my fanny." Greg Theakston

You can leave a message on the person who removed it's talk page: User talk:Haakon. --Wooty Woot? | contribs 02:59, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please also read the page Wikipedia:Autobiography, which strongly discourages writing articles about yourself, including using a promotional biography as article material. Even if the material is technically released to Wikipedia under the GFDL free license (which is what happens when you, the copyright owner, inserts it into an article; note the sentence to that effect below every edit box), other editors may consider it overly self-aggrandizing, self-promotional, etc., and remove all or part of the material. --MCB 04:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for drawing attention to this article. Someone had posted a version of the article which explicitly claimed copyright, which is not acceptable, and which did not follow the house style for Wikipedia. I have reverted it to the previous result of collaborative editing. Notinasnaid 08:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

With a little research, I've now been able to extend it to include more of the original points. This includes a source for "Theakstonizing", and a Wikipedia link to Pure Imagination (comics), Mad (magazine) and Omega Men, all of which mention the subject. I'm sure that there is much more to say, if it can be properly sourced and written in the house style! Notinasnaid 08:31, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Animals

I am wondering of perhaps an encompassing wildlife section ought to be created. It might link all pages on animals together, and perhaps further, to all pages on the natural world and conservation issues?

You could try Wikispecies. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 04:09, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, yeah. That looks good, although obviously in need of some serious imput? I put in a common species and nothing was found. (Sasquatchuk 04:17, 24 October 2006 (UTC))[reply]

The search box isn't always great. Perhaps you misspelled. It's very sensitive to capitalization. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:19, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BIRDS

As a quite serious birder I am perturbed by the poor quality photographs/paintings used on many pages dedicated to our birds. From an enthusiasts pov, photos ought to be used over some of the the antiquated paintings that are currently in place. If drawings do have to be used, then why not ones chosen by ornithologists (which should provide wiki with more accurate info). The current pics (for example: Lesser Spotted Eagle) do not accurately depict the animal. In fact, they are/it is way off the mark. These types of paintings/drawings are outdated (perhaps pre 1970s or earlier?) and much better examples are now available. If the persons responsible for the inclusion of these details understands this then a more rounded article it will make. Ta ta.(Sasquatchuk 03:47, 24 October 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Images must be either copyright free (usually implying old) or essentially donated under an extremely generous free license (donated on the condition that anyone can copy it so long as they let anyone else copy it). If you know of better images that meet the Wikipedia:Image use policy please feel free to upload them. -- Rick Block (talk) 04:06, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are many pictures available out there. I have more than one on my PC which would be an improvement. How do I upload/change it?

A bird ringer and regular editor of Wikipedia may have more access to pics than others. I am suggesting a guideline. I am not going to be an editor but my suggestion is a sound.(Sasquatchuk)

Are these pictures that you've taken? The problem is pictures that are "available" very often don't meet the image use policy. Please realize all the content here is effectively donated. All the words. All the images. There is no funding for content generation. The guideline is "best available (that meets the image use policy)". Again, if you know of better images that are publicly available (or that you've taken and are willing to "donate") please let us know. -- Rick Block (talk) 04:31, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I have several that I have taken myself that are suitable. Also, you might like to know, since the advent of digiscoping, a huge number of ornithologists are taking better pictures of birds. This new craze produces many pictures that are on a par (quality wise) with professional nature photographers. In theory, there ought to be a great deal more uncopyrighted images available. I'm not sure exactly where to find them but then I haven't looked. I'll ask around maybe. (Sasquatchuk 04:40, 24 October 2006 (UTC))[reply]

University Database Class seeking to edit entry as a group

Hello Wikipedia Nation,

I am currently a member of Tulane University's A.B. Freeman School of Business's Database Management class. We are seeking to update and correct some information to the "Database Normalization" page. My professor has asked that I find out what we need to do to be able to do this. Are we eligible to do this since we will more than likely be first-time account holders? We seek scholarly work as well as a benefit for all of society.

Thanks in advance!

Well, there are several issues you have to take into consideration. Per the GFDL, we need information of who is making changes to a page; while this doesn't sound as big of a deal, you need to recognize that if one member of your class does mischief, all of your class will have that mischief reflected on their contributions record. Additionally, there's usually not much acceptance for role accounts.

However, don't let that discourage you, there have been several class-wide projects done previously: see the list at School and university projects for more ideas and tips. Overall, my recommendation is for each student and the professor to create an account, and have the professor link all the usernames of his students for organizational purposes, like GumbyProf does in his user page for his university project. Overall, a lot of ideas and suggestions for professors and students are available. Of course, thanks for helping out, and in case you have any questions, feel free to ask again! Tito xd^(?!?) 05:09, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Malicious reverting of edits

HI, I am wondering what the policy is on users constantly reverting others entries, I have been trying to add content to a topic, but a predominant user keeps reverting all my work, he/she says it doesn't follow the format of how they want it done.

I feel my work is valid to the topic, but they keep reverting it anyway. I checked the editing policies and they say I am allowed to edit the article. When I check the history of the page, I see that this user reverts everyones work.

Topic, Smallville (Season 6)

The user is Bignole —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.49.235.50 (talk) .

While I'm not sure about the entire situation, hopefully, we can assume good faith, though this may not always be the case. Unfortunately, I cannot offer a simple solution for you, other than perhaps ask the user in what ways you can help. However, if you think that talking to the user will not yield any simple solution, you are more than welcome to look at the dispute resolution process--perhaps taking a break would help, or if not, mediation might solve your issue. Good luck to you! -dougk (Talk ˑ Contribs) 06:08, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This Anon believes me to be "maliciously reverting" them because they refuse to follow the MOS for fictional universe articles, the MOS for television series articles, and because I have cleaned up sentence structure. A quick look at the history for Smallville (Season 6) will show that it isn't malicious and that other editors have notified this user of incorrect practices (just before they were blocked for being disruptive to the same page). I also leave clear edit summaries explaining why I am removing/editing something they added. This Anon is just continuing to be disruptive because they believe that they have a right to add anything they wish, because (and their own words were) "Wikipedia is whatever readers want it to be!" Also, I think this user is mistaking what "the right to edit means", because it does not mean "the right to edit however you wish, with no regard to policy, guidelines, etc." Bignole 07:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of Title on a wiki page

I was wondering how to remove/hide the title name at the top left corner of a wiki page, as done on Wikipedia's main page.

I think the Main Page's title removal is a special software feature that only affects that page, although I'm not sure. I wouldn't advise trying to mess with titles in articles (at least two templates that did this were deleted or userfied at TfD); if you want to alter the title of your userpage you could use {{User:1ne/Title}}. --ais523 07:47, 24 October 2006 (U T C)

WORLD FOOD DAY

Hello, I put this page up two weeks ago and it has a mark at top asking for it to be Wikified. I've read through the guidelines on ways to Wikify but am not sure what exactly needs amending in this case. Any pointers? Many thanks. ANFO 07:38, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The tag is there because the page doesn't have enough wikilinks. You can create a wikilink by placing a word or short phrase in a pair of square brackets; also see Help:Link (that's a wikilink right there) for information about what to do when that doesn't work. See MoS:L for information on what ought to be linked. There are a few other things that need to be done as part of wikification, such as links saying Click here (see WP:ASR or the article for why this is a bad idea); if you leave the tag on eventually other Wikipedians will finish the wikification. --ais523 07:53, 24 October 2006 (U T C)

management

what is insurance 07:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. --ais523 07:59, 24 October 2006 (U T C)

If you posted this question you would probably get an answer like this:

Welcome to Wikipedia. You can easily look up this topic yourself. Please see insurance. For future questions, try using the search box at the top left of the screen. It's much quicker, and you will probably find a clearer answer. If you still don't understand, add a further question below by clicking the "edit" button to the right of your question title. X [Mac Davis] (SUPERDESK|Help me improve) 08:14, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alignment of text/things other than images

Where can I find a tutorial on the subject the alignment of text/things other than images? Guide to Layout did not help, nor did Manual of Style.

Example:

Thanks.--Fix Bayonets! 08:31, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are different methods for different objects.

This text is floated to the right; if you look at the edit screen (click 'edit' next to the heading of this section) you can see what markup I used.

Some templates allow different positionings; the one you used above ({{navbox generic}} doesn't, but some have an extra parameter (e.g. align=left or float=left) you can use. If you are more interested, read about CSS (the Wikipedia article and wikibooks:CSS Programming are starting points you may want to use, but talk about CSS generally rather than as applied to Wikipedia). --ais523 08:55, 24 October 2006 (U T C)

Colors

When attempting to make templates, I have always used colors such as "red, "blue", "black", etc. However something I often run into when editing other templates is colors such as "#E8FFFF" or "#339999". Are these universal html codes for certain colors, or is it a Wikipedia convention? Also, is there a list somewhere of these "color codes" so I can have a broader selection than just the rainbow... -Runningonbrains 10:14, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The colour codes are HTML; they consist of six hexadecimal digits in three pairs representing the redness, blueness, and greenness of the colour. Web colors provides a much larger table of colours you can use for things like userpages and template backgrounds; if you want to colour a Portal look at Wikipedia:Colours or Wikipedia talk:Colours. --ais523 10:21, 24 October 2006 (U T C)

Images from other language wikipedias?

What is the best way to get images from other language wikipedia's. As I can't read the copyright info, i can't save and resubmit. Can I link to them in any other way? Kingutd 10:28, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The other-language wikipedias can't be image-linked to; this is a good reason to upload images to Wikimedia Commons, which can be linked to from any language. The copyright tags can often be figured out without knowing the language, because the names of the licences and particularly their acronyms often aren't translated. For instance, de:Vorlage:Bild-GFDL is reasonably obviously the GFDL, based on the name of the template, the reference to the Free Software Foundation in English, and the fact that the external wikilinks in the target of the bolded link go to the text of the GFDL. You could also try contacting the uploaders requesting a move to commons if you know a language they speak (many users of foreign-language Wikipedias will be able to speak English and state this on their userpage, for instance). --ais523 10:37, 24 October 2006 (U T C)

Thanks mate. Kingutd 10:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A nice way to transfer free images from other Wikipedias to Commons is CommonsHelper. Kusma (討論) 10:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What do you do if someone won't respond to their Talk page?

I'm on one side of a content dispute over articles relating to the World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools; 209.181.151.57 (talk · contribs) is on the other, and s/he has been known to remove large sections critical of the organisation or its facilities from their respective articles without bringing up the issue on their talk pages. I left a message on his/her talk page four days ago, but s/he hasn't responded either there, on my own talk page, or that of the articles. What am I supposed to do now? CameoAppearance ^orate 11:48, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

209.181.151.57 is an IP address. If it's dynamic it's possible that the user hasn't received your message (talk-page messages to IPs often get lost due to the editor changing IP). If the editor continues the dispute using the same IP and refuses to communicate, it may be worth going through the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution channels. --ais523 11:52, 24 October 2006 (U T C)

Need some help

If someone could read my talk page, there is an already going conversation about what to do with an image in question. If someone could answer me there, it would be appreciated. Aspensti 13:47, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Responded on Aspensti's talk page. —Mitaphane _talk 16:41, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

scholarships

I am trying to use this site to access info about college scholarships for football and don't know where to begin

Not all information is suitable for Wikipedia; if it's too specific for an encyclopedia it's possible that it isn't here. You might want to search on similar terms using the search function, or you could try asking a question about it at the Reference Desk. --ais523 15:08, 24 October 2006 (U T C)

Wikipedia is a general encyclopedia, and you are unlikely to find up-to-date, precise and detailed information on college scholarships. Please try looking at the official websites of the organizations that offer scholarships; using any secondary source for this kind of research can be harmful. Good luck! - Tangot a ngo 15:09, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://fastweb.com is the best site for scholorships that I know about. Sign up for free and look at that. Wikiversity would normally be good, but it is still in development and I'm not sure of the volume of sports-related college stuff. X [Mac Davis] (SUPERDESK|Help me improve) 17:47, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Photograph

I am at a loss how to attach a photograph to a Wikipedia article The photo downloads and is stored here but I cannot see any way of editing the article to move or download the picture directly. Could someone explain in simple English how to do this? Someone tried before here to tell me but it was written in jargon which I didn't understand. I think one of the weaknesses of Wikipedia is the shortages of images with articles.I think it should be easier to affix pictures! Lee Brown — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frglee (talk • contribs)

It is very easy to add an image that is already uploaded to Wikipedia. Just follow The Wikipedia:Image tutorial step by step. If you dont succeed, let us know which image you are trying to add to which article. -- Lost^(talk) 16:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright can't really be simplified too much because the law is complicated. But if you can tell us how you came by the photograph, we may be able to help you work out if the photo is acceptable in Wikipedia. Notinasnaid 19:57, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Table photos

I am making my first table today. I am having a problem getting the photos to display at Hampton House#Additional Photos. I am not sure what is wrong TonyTheTiger 15:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Although I don't think photo galleries are exactly recommended for use on articles, you may like to take a look at Wikipedia:Picture_tutorial#Photo_gallery for some quick and standardized ways to create image galleries. Cheers, Tangot a ngo 15:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

softporn

Can your softporn movies be purchased, if so can you show me what's available.

Thanks

Ray — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rvaiza (talk • contribs)

You are at the wrong website. This is Wikipedia, an encyclopedia. You will find articles about anything including porn, but no porn movies here -- Lost^(talk) 16:59, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

question about request for articles

Dear help desk staff at wikipedia:

My name is christopher daniggelis,an american printmaker--- when I type my name into google, wikipedia comes up requesting an article, and I can find my name under artists in wikipedia also---- 1st question: can I create information or have someone create information about the work and download it to wikipedia--- 2nd: how did my name get there---- 3rd: can I have the name removed if I want.

Thank you

csdaniggelis

Unless you spelled your name wrong, you don't seem to have an article here. Can you link to it?
Yes, you can write any information you want for Wikipedia, as long as it is released under the GFDL or other free-content license. That means you can't copy someone else's copyrighted work: it has to be your own writing, and not from your website/etc unless you also release that under a free license.
If you find an article here about you, its because someone else created it.
Generally, if you're notable enough to deserve an article, you probably can't get it removed: this is an encyclopedia. However, you can most certainly get defamatory or libelous information removed. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 19:42, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Photo Limit

I have posted 9 pictures from my 7 megapixel camera to the Hampton House page. It seems that at any time at most only 6 or 7 will load. I have tried on my laptop as well as a desktop here at the library. Is it common for a page not to load more than a few pictures? TonyTheTiger 19:09, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's a problem wikipedia is currently having. Some images aren't loading for me as well. And this page seems to indicate other people are having the problem as well. —Mitaphane _talk 20:28, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ABUSE

Hello, I didn't realize that Wikipedia actually reports abuse to ISPs (good job!) but I was wondering what happens to reported vandals? --SonicChao 19:14, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It depends on the ISP. Different ISPs have different Terms of Service that allow them to terminate service if the user violates the terms. I doubt any of them, however, have anything related to Wikipedia vandalism. Although, many ISPs do have a no Spam clause in their terms. I imagine if a user was found severely spamming wikipedia, the ISP could cancel their account based on those actions. —Mitaphane _talk 20:38, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I seriously doubt however, that an ISP would cancel a money paying customer over something as simple as vandalizing wikipedia. Aspensti 21:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, you'd be surprised. Its not a "simple thing" and its no different from spamming a discussion board or sending spam emails. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 21:15, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Maybe someone should add that to the page? --SonicChao 22:04, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's why I said severely(I'm thinking bot spam here). I'm sure a 5-10 posts of spam on here wouldn't make an ISP think about terminating service, but a few thousand might. —Mitaphane _talk 00:09, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sub list - listed with letters instead of numbers or bullets

Is there ANY way to list my items with lower case letters next to them instead of numbers or bullets???

I'm afraid I don't understand your question, could you provide more context? X [Mac Davis] (SUPERDESK|Help me improve) 22:27, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think he wants to create a numbered bulleted list but with it enumerated as:

a. first item

b. second item

rather than:

1. first item

2. second item

I don't know if it's possible, except for typing it out manually as I've done, but then of course it's a pain if you wan to insert things in between later. p.s. please sign your posts by typing four tildes after your reply like so ~~~~, it automagically expands into your username or IP and the current date like so: Zunaid 09:29, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More Controversy for "The Island" Film

I have an interesting addition to the controversy of "The Island" film infringing the "Clonus" film.

I also have a copyright infringement lawsuit against the producers of "The Island" -- Stephen Hendricks v. DreamWorks, LLC; Warner Bros.Entertainment, Inc.; Mandalay Filmed Entertainment, LLC; Mandalay Pictures, LLC; and screenwriter Caspian Tredwell-Owen(CV05-8271-CAS (Ex)). My lawsuit is for "The Island" clone film infringing my requested, submitted and read clone screenplay "Double... Double..."

I filed my complaint as a plaintiff pro se because I couldn't find an attorney who would take my case on a contingency.

In my lawsuit, Judge Christina A. Snyder denied the defendants' motions to dismiss (DreamWorks, Warner Bros. and Tredwell-Owen jointly filed one motion and Mandalay filed their own motion) and she also granted my motion to amend my complaint for a breach of implied-in-fact contract. The trial is set for August 2007.

Mandalay's VP of Features Ori Marmur asked for my clone screenplay in March 1999. Marmur was the supervisor of Tredwell-Owen, "The Island" "screenwriter," who was under a two-picture screenplay contract at Mandalay.

I have proof of access.

In my complaint I listed over 100 similarities and provided Judge Snyder with a material review that showed how Tredwell-Owen and the defendants rewrote my screenplay.

What they did was take the two plots of my present-day clone story and rewrote it into one plot and set it 20 years in the future.

But by doing that the defendants made an infringing derivative sequel of my "Double... Double..." clone story.

How did I come up with my story? It's based on a friend who has a chronic disease and will need an organ transplant. One day we were talking about if only if we could clone her, then that's how we could get a viable organ. But then we got talking about the sad fate of the clone -- created for a body part and then no longer needed and disposed of.

Some of the "Freudian slips" of the defendants' telltale copying include:

1) My story ends on AN ISLAND, setting up the sequel to the next chapter of my clone story. The first thing you see in "The Island" is AN ISLAND, which is the transitional sequel link between my clone story and the defendants infringing clone story.

2) The main character in "The Island" is named Lincoln Six Echo, but he is also called "Three." A main character in my secondary plot is also called, "Three."

3) The cloning facility in “Double… Double…” is called BIOTEC INSTITUTE. The cloning facility in “The Island” is sometimes called Merrick BIOTECH and sometimes called Merrick INSTITUTE.

In fact, there is one scene where both names are used when one character talks to another. In “The Island” the human Lincoln character makes a phone call to Merrick BIOTECH/Merrick INSTITUTE and asks the operator for Merrick INSTITUTE. The receptionist at Merrick BIOTECH/Merrick INSTITUTE then answers the phone, “Merrick BIOTECH” (“The Island” DVD, chapter 34).

I'm in the Discovery phase of my trial. Judge Snyder was very generous in the fact that she gave me time to find an expert witness to draft a substantial similarity analysis. I just found an expert who said my claim is valid. She has a doctorate and is a professor who has extensive screenplay analysis experience.

I also may have an attorney who will take over my case.

In regard to the "Clonus" movie, I never heard of it before the lawsuit.

In my case, the Mandalay Feature VP who supervised "screenwriter" Tredwell-Owen has admitted to reading my screenplay, which the courts have held is a reasonable possibility of access.

When you have a reasonable possibility of access in a copyright infringement case, any similarity becomes more significant.

When you have a weak chain of access, similarities can be easier to argue away as independent creation, coincidence and scenes a faire.

One of the things that is really disturbing about my case is that if the defendants get away with their theft, it would set a horrific precedent that would hurt all writers.

A way to look at my case is to ask if the defendants get away with their infringement, can they then make a prequel based on “their” 20 years in the future clone story and then take my present day clone story.

It’s very common now for Hollywood to make sequels and prequels. In fact, "The Island" director Michael Bay’s production company has just released a prequel to the “Texas Chainsaw Massacre” called “The Texas Chainsaw Massacre – The Beginning.”

So can the defendants take my present day story? They would have an argument. They could say that my present day clone story is based on “their” prior futuristic clone story.

It's another reason why I have fought so hard on this case. It would be disastrous for writers everywhere if the defendants get away with their theft.

DoubleDouble 20:11, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I don't think we can help you here. This is a Help Desk to assist Wikipedia users with using and editing Wikipedia. I'm not exactly sure what your question is, but I don't think Wikipedia is the proper place for such a thing. —Keakealani 20:14, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User Boxes

As stupid as I feel as I type this... I need help!

Can anyone help me figure out how to make userboxes? I tried and tried, but my result was a big mess all over my page. I tried looking at the Wikipedia article on Userboxes but it was no use. I would be eternally grateful for any help... thank you in advance.-SilentWind 20:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have looked at the edits that you made to your userpage and I was wondering whether you meant actually making userboxes or just incorporating already existing ones? To put an already-made userbox on your page, find find the appropriate userbox that you wish to have on your userpage and then copy and paste the code in to the place on your userpage that you wish it to be. So, for instance, if you copy and pasted the code {{User HGG}} on your userpage, it would come up with this when you saved it:

Template:User HGG

Or if you meant you actually wanted to create a userbox, you need to have basic knowledge of HTML and Wiki-markup - the code for the above userbox is:

<div style="float: left; border:solid {{{1|#000000}}} 1px; margin: 1px;"> {| cellspacing="0" style="width: 238px; background: {{{2|#FFFFFF}}};" | style="width: 45px; height: 45px; background: {{{1|#DDDDDD}}}; text-align: center; font-size: {{{5|15pt}}}pt; color: #000000;" | '''{{{3|[[Image:Answer to Life.png|45px]]}}}''' | style="font-size: 12ptpt; padding: 4pt; line-height: 1.25em; color: #000000;" | {{{4|This user [[Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy|knows]] '''[[The Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything]]'''}}} |}</div><noinclude> [[Category:Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Templates|42]] </noinclude>

As you can see, it is basically just a question of filling in the blanks. It would be beneficial to you if you tried to create a userbox in the sandbox so it doesn't interfere with your userpage or any other project-related pages. If you would like any help with actually creating your userbox, don't hesitate to contact me! SergeantBolt (t,c) 22:11, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A good guide can be found at WP:Userbox. X [Mac Davis] (SUPERDESK|Help me improve)

subscribing

hey everyone just wanted to know how i can subscribe and whether there is any fee involved and the url where i can subscribe. correct me if i'm wrong but i believe it is possible to become a member of wikipedia...also, what does "wiki"pedia stand for?

It is free to create an account to edit Wikipedia. You can also read Wikipedia without an account. Once you create an account, there are lots of things to learn, and lots of pages you can go to, but it is all free. Every single bit. As a reader, some things are more complicated, but you can generally do most of the stuff that someone with an account can do. See Wikipedia:Introduction and Help:Contents for more. The "wiki" in wikipedia comes from a Hawaiian word for "fast", because editing can be very fast around here. See wiki for more information. Carcharoth 20:55, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

case sensitivity

I remember reading some WP page awhile ago that had some info about article names being case sensitive. The english wikipedia is one of only a few wikipedias that's case sensitive. Can anyone point me to this page, and tell me whether there's any hope of changing it? Case sensitivity seems really annoying.. two different articles with merely different cases is confusing (they should both be the same disambiguation page) and for normal articles, multiple redirects have to be created for common miscapitalizations --⁪froth^{T C} 20:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The rules for article names can be viewed at Wikipedia:Naming conventions. As with all policies, the first way to bring about change is to use the discussion area. McMillin24 _contribs^talk 21:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Error on speedy deletion

I just created a stub for former National Hockey League defenceman Wayne Hillman and they erroneously have put it for speedy deletion. Please rectify this at once. It should not be deleted.Corey Bryant 20:43, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the {{hangon}} template for you. Please go to Talk:Wayne Hillman and give the reasons why you think the article should be kept. If you say you are working on it, you will probably be given time to improve the article, but if it doesn't improve, or no reasons are given for Wayne Hillman meeting the criteria at Wikipedia:Notability, it may be deleted anyway. Hope that helps. Carcharoth 20:59, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image resolution

Dear Sir or Madam:

Re: The image of a terraformed Mars at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Terraformedmars.jpg

Since the image is in the public domain, I am planning on using this image for inclusion in a science article I am submitting for publication. I will, of course, give proper credit to Wikipedia and NASA.

My question is how can I obtain a higher-resolution image; my editor wants something 300 dpi or greater.

Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

Joe Knight.

You can try writing to NASA as the image was created by NASA. -- Lost^(talk) 03:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(after edit conflict) You might do well to pose your query at WP:RD/C, where participant editors appear to know everything one might hope to know apropos of computing. You might also want to find the NASA original, e.g, from the NASA Image eXchange or, more generally, the NASA Science and Techincal Information site. To the extent, btw, that the image is an adapted derivative of an original NASA work—I don't imagine it to be, the other-than-clear image description notwithstanding, if only in view of its being tagged {{PD-USGov-NASA}}—you might need to ensure that your use complies with the GFDL; you seem, of course, to have an excellent handle on such compliance. Joe 03:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Upload photo

Hello there, I would really like to know how I can add my photo to my user page, Any information would be greatly appreciated. Kind Regards. Ben Montaigue

Click on "upload file" on the left side under "toolbox." Follow the prompts, and select a license. Make sure you named your image something better than "DSC13423423.jpg" Copy your image name use WP:IMG in implanting the image in your page. X [Mac Davis] (SUPERDESK|Help me improve) 22:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Advice and guidance needed

Dear Sir or Madam:

On Dan Poynter's "Publishing Poynters," I read the following paragraph: "If your book covers a topic included in the popular online encyclopedia Wikipedia, consider adding an entry related to your book, such as listing your website as a resource or including a link to an article you wrote. After I added content to several Wikipedia pages on a topic related to one of my books, I saw a big spike in targeted web traffic. For best results, be sure your content is both relevant and factual(rather than sales oriented)."

I am an historian of and about the battlefields of the American Expeditionary Force (AEF) in France and Belgium during World War I (1917-1919). I have just published the first of a series of 'then-and-now' photographic format guidebooks to the old AEF battlefields. My title is: "American Battlefields of World War I: Château-Thierry--Then and Now. ISBN 0970244304. This book is of the 'crossover' type, in that it is both a guidebook and an informal history.

My question is: How do I best utilize Wikipedia to both disseminate World War I history and to tactfully promote my book? Quite frankly, I find myself a bit confused about the many 'ands, ifs, buts and whyfores' of the Wikepedia website. Maybe this is due to my age of seventy-five years............??

I have published many historical articles relating to the American forces in World War I. My website is: www.battlegroundpro.com

Can someone on your staff offer me some guidelines here and perhaps do a little bit of handholding????

Respectfully yours, David Homsher

It's strongly discouraged to use Wikipedia to attempt to "plug" your own works. If your book is relevant as a reference, your best approach might be to mention it on the talk pages of related articles in the hope of interesting editors in adding mention of it if appropriate. *Dan T.* 00:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Password reminders

Hi,

I have, for some time, been getting password reminders rather frequently. Currently, they constitute approximately 20-30% of my non-spam, non-mailinglist e-mail. Is there some way to prevent this being sent out for my account, as I have no intention of forgetting my password? If not, is the same IP requesting these several times cause of some form of countermeasure being deployed? From 22:28, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is no way to prevent this. Dont let it bother you. If you are sure of not losing your password, setup your inbox so that this mail goes straight to junk. It doesnt affect your current password. There are discussions going on at bugzilla regarding this. See bugzilla:6427. -- Lost^(talk) 03:25, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it looks as though I'm not the only one with this problem, after all. Limiting requests per hour and preventing blocked users should help. Thanks for the help, and the link. I'm rather new to the "behind the scenes"-part of Wikipedia. From 03:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

95th Congress

THe link to Mike McCormack as a member of the 95th Congress is incorrect. You have linked him to the professional football player, Mike McCormack and not the politician representing the 4th Congressional District from WA

They're both perfectly valid article subjects: what is needed is a disambiguation page. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 23:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed the link, also added Mike McCormack to the disambiguation page. --Skywolf 23:19, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question

How come the edit tabs on pages are so big all of sudden? Check my userpage, there's one there. Temp 23:02, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And I guess there's one above my comment, too. :)

That would appear to be an option in your browser, as the subheaders on this page use the Header 2 size, not all web browsers interpret sizes the same. --Skywolf 23:47, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

definitions

I have the definition of a word and i need to know what the word is that goes to this definition. How can i do that using Wikipedia?

Wikipedia is not a dictionary, however there is Wiktionary. If you need to look up a word by it's definition, your best bet may be an internet search engine. --Skywolf 23:42, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 25

does ash loves misty?

Welcome to Wikipedia Mocho Cota! I would love to help you answer that question, but I do not know what it is in reference to. You may also want to take a look at the Reference Desk as you may be able to find the answer you're looking for there by browsing. If I can be of any more help please reply to this with some more details regarding your question. --Skywolf 01:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think he's talking about Ash from Pokemon. And no, I can't help you with that question ;) — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 01:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See this link[6], and from now on ask these questions at the Miscellaneous desk. T H L

Template:Main code

Hi,

I'm currently trying to make a similar template for my wiki and I can't seem to find is there's a template for #if:
i.e. {{#if:'some code'}} as seen in the code

Thanks

Try installing the m:ParserFunctions extension of MediaWiki. Tito xd^(?!?) 03:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ABout Editor

is it possible to add some more options to the editor like tab,paragraph etc..

i can give the editor sample,which contains lot of options.

now a days everybody is using the html text editor only.

thanks

See WP:TOOLS for a number of javascript tools you can add to your .js file if you are a registered editor. For example, I have a javascript tool added that will let me edit the lead section just like all other section seperated by headers. —Mitaphane _talk 18:07, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bibliography

I am currently using your info on Neil Armstrong for a report. What would the bibliography be for this site?

Thanks.

Greetings, and welcome to Wikipedia! This question often comes up and there is a special Wiki page made just for this called Special:Cite. From there you can enter the page name and get some ideas of how to cite the articles from Wikipedia, however please check with your instructor to see if citing tertiary sources is allowed in your class. I wish you the best of luck, if you have any more questions please feel free to ask! --Skywolf 04:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

how do i edit or change an edit summary that i created?

I entered an edit summary (to a revert), but somehow it did not get my entire comment in

I tried to edit it (by doing another revert while adding the complete comment in, everything else being the same) but the complete comment wouldn't take.

Is there a way to edit an "edit summary" of an edit, or else to somehow create a new edit summary of an edit?

Thank you

Duedilly 04:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings Duedilly. There is a limit of 200 characters on a summary line. You should try be detailed in what you changed but sometimes that doesn't always work. Please see Wikipedia:Edit Summary for a guide on edit summaries. Also if you need to discuss the changes you made in more detail you can do that on the article's talk page. --Skywolf 04:29, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You cannot change an edit summary, even if you are the one who made it; they are permanent. T H L 04:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Probably the reason the attempt to resolve it didn't take is that an edit which changes nothing is ignored. If you have a long commentary to make, consider adding to the talk page and including the magic words "see talk" in your edit summary. This happens quite often. Notinasnaid 07:48, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you much for the clarifications of this issue - notably: - an edit summary can not be directly edited - if an edit is submitted that has ONLY a new edit summary but has no changes to the (article) edit itself, the new edit and edit summary will NOT take because it is detected that nothing was changed in the edit Duedilly 15:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

how do i edit {{{caption}}}?

Hey people.

I'm new to Wikipedia and I seem to have a problem. In the article Delicious Library there is a {{{caption}}} thing directly under the screenshot. How do I edit this? Thanks ;)

(Me-pawel 05:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC))[reply]

It means that someone missed a template parameter. What you should do is where you see this

{{Infobox Software
| name = Delicious Library
| logo = [[Image:Delicious Library.png|48px|Delicious Library icon]]
...........
}}

then add a "| caption = foo" or leave it blank "|caption = " GeorgeMoney (talk) 05:20, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey thank you, it worked ;) (Me-pawel 06:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Mirror sites, copyrights

I'd like to report a website that lifted partial and entire biographies of 25 famous guitarists from Wikipedia pages. My problem is that I'm unsure who I'm reporting since the information was posted in a blog which is part of an entertainment website. The website itself has copyright info at the bottom of the page but the blogger does not mention Wikipedia anywhere that I've seen. Should I go ahead and report the entertainment website or is there a different procedure when the info is contributed through a user's blog?

Greetings Beepackman! Wikipedia has a special page regarding these issues. You can find the Wikipedia policy regarding resusing text at Wikipedia:Copyrights. You may wish to help the user who posted the text by letting him know he should cite his source. Most of us would like to assume the user had good intentions, but he may not know the proper way to cite it. If you need further help you may reply to this or post a new section. --Skywolf 05:53, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Right, but I personally do not want to email the person about how he copied info from Wikipedia. I just wanted to list the website on Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks. I read through the pages regarding those issues and I still do not understand who I am reporting. Who is violating the copyright? Is it the blogger who posted the info or the website that hosts the blog and is claiming copyright? Both?

You're delving into copyright law there as to who exactly is responsible. Even copying word for word or verbatim from Wikipedia articles is allowed, provided they follow the GFDL. Verbatim copying falls under section two of the GFDL. You may wish to report the violation to the website's administrator and have them deal with the user or modify the post to include the requirements. --Skywolf 06:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks for your help. I may have made this much more complicated than I intended. I just wanted to make sure I named the correct webpage in the alphabetical list of Mirrors and forks. I don't know if it should be listed under the name of the host website or the blog itself. It seems that I should stick to editing and leave this for someone else! Thanks, you tried.

Misc. desk archives

Where are they? I posted a question that was answered here, but now it's gone! Where did it go? --JDitto 05:48, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives. Go to the appropriate link depending on when you asked the question -- Lost^(talk) 05:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Have a great day! --JDitto 06:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Buying Stock

I would like to buy stock into your company but I don't know if this is being offered yet. Can you please clarify this for me. I appreciate it. I am interested in buying stock but I am understanding that you are not yet on the public market. If you do not know how to answer this question, please send me an email address of someone who does.

Jonathan Pineda <email removed> —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pineda03 (talk • contribs) 06:17, October 25, 2006 (UTC).

The Wikimedia Foundation is a non-profit organization, and thus cannot issue stock. Sorry. --Slowking Man 06:20, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Art Pictures

Hello, I am interested in uploading some scan/photos of artworks from well and little known painters and other Artists, under what liscence do I upload these? Thankyou in advance, Dfrg.m s c ^{1 . 2 . 3} 08:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings! scans and photos of artworks would still fall under the original artworks copyright, if the copyright has expired then you may choose to make the decision, since you took the photo or scanned the image. For help with applying the correct tags, see Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags --Skywolf 08:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, so what would I tag the image: Art, Life and the other thing by Brett Whitely, with? Dfrg.m s c ^{1 . 2 . 3} 08:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm no expert on image and artwork copyrights, but I do tend to go on the side of caution. Since the artist is still alive, still producing works and seeing I can't find information on the website about the artworks status I would contact the artist prior to posting pictures or scans of his work on Wikipedia. --Skywolf 08:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Formatting

What do I have to do to change font colour and size? And how do I create userboxes? Littleghostboo 08:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd only recommend changing font colour and size on a userpage, but here are some examples: click on the [edit] link next to the section heading to see what to write.

Big text

Small text

Coloured text (old and slightly obsolete method)

The new method that can combine the above if needed

As for userboxes, Wikipedia:Userboxes gives instructions. --ais523 08:51, 25 October 2006 (U T C)

Thanks. Littleghostboo 09:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

De facto majority of editors in certain articles

Hi. Myself and a few like-minded editors form a de facto majority on many South Africa-related articles, and often tend to agree on various POV and content disputes and the like. While each of us claim to be correctly applying the relevant policies and only doing what's best for the 'pedia, it does not foster good relations with other editors when their views are over-ridden by the consensus (regardless of the correctness with which policies are applied). This has been raised by one of the "minority" editors who feels that we are controlling the info that goes into these articles. Is there any recourse that can be taken? Should I submit an RfC or something? (Affected articles: Talk:South African farm attacks‎, Talk:2010 FIFA World Cup, Talk:Crime Expo South Africa, Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2006 October 11#Redirect pages to South African farm attacks (combined nomination)) Note: this is not meant to be a discussion on whether the actions taken were correct, but rather on what can be done about the current situation. Zunaid 09:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings Zunaid, the information you're looking for may be located at Wikipedia:Resolving_disputes. It is recommended of course, that individuals and parties discuss changes on the talk pages of articles, and come to an agreement there. However there are times when mediation is neccesary. Please take a look at Wikipedia:Resolving_disputes and see if these options may be right for you. --Skywolf 09:29, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Discussing changes is all good and well, but the reality is that the majority of editors lean towards one way of thinking, rendering any discussion essentially meaningless. As long as the majority motivate their actions by correctly citing policies and guidelines, the minority view will never be followed EVEN IF they have valid view. IMHO this has not been the case in every dispute, but it could be that some decisions might have gone the other way if the numbers were more equal.Zunaid 11:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Zunaid, this is what is called a systemic bias. One option is to take this to Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias. However, since most interested editors are already involved, I am not sure if that will really help. What will help is citing from very reliable sources and trying to maintain NPOV even if you are on the majority side. Ultimately there may be more editors on the (current) minority side who may anyway make the article NPOV. (called m:eventualism in Wikipedia parlance) -- Lost^(talk) 11:56, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the responses so far. I am quite au fait with systemic bias etc, and for sure we definitely stick to our reading of WP:NPOV (which along with WP:V is the main tool for removing/rewriting statements in articles). I guess the question then becomes who polices the police?. Zunaid (T•C) please rate me! 14:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

help

after creating a new page called "pie_movie" and editing it it works for a while but then seems to disapear, when using the search function. "pie movie" eg: 5 mins after i save chances it works but then it comes to a search not found type of page where it gives the option to create a "pie_movie" page, why does it keep auto deleting itself ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbech2 (talk • contribs)

The article has been deleted by admins thrice. Please dont recreate it unless you can establish notability for it. Please see the reasoning by admins in this link. -- Lost^(talk) 12:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How exactly is notability acheived ? for example lets say a movie like jackass, how is its notability acheived ? Sbech2 12:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jackass is a major motion picture released in commercial theaters made from a popular television series. It has been reviewed by major newspapers. Millions of people can tell you the names of the Jackass crew, and so on. That is why it is notable and verifiable through reliable sources. The content you are creating, I gather, is a homemade movie posted by you or someone you know on YouTube. It is thus apparently known only by you, your friends, and those who come across it on YouTube. It needs to become notable in the wider world and written about by others in order to have an article here.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Even though it's still under discussion, there is a draft guideline on notability for films. It might give you an idea of what is expected: Wikipedia:Notability (films). The main notability page is also a useful read. — QuantumEleven 13:01, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article not viewed on result page.

I wrote an article, namely Pandoh Lake. When I click on Go, the page is appeared but when I click on Search, the link for that article is not viewed. May I know why? Sushant gupta 12:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The database can take a few weeks to catalogue entries so that they are found through search, whereas the go button links directly to articles. You might find the faq of very frequently asked questions useful.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:20, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Contact.

How do i contact a user?? i want to contact Peter Znamenskiy...i want to know about molecular biology. how do contact him??????

I am Amukta...email is (email removed) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amukta (talk • contribs)

Is Peter a user of Wikipedia? If he is, then just go to his user talk page and contact him. If he isnt, then Wikipedia is not the place to try to get in touch with him. -- Lost^(talk) 12:56, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(you were faster than me, Lostintherush! :))

On his user page User:Peter Znamenskiy, in the toolbar on the left hand side, there is a link to "E-Mail this user". Click it. If you are trying to find out about molecular biology, have you looked at our article molecular biology? — QuantumEleven 12:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

book search

do you have the book "Counsel for kings" by mohammed al-ghazaliMusa yusuf 13:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is an encyclopedia. We dont have books although our sister project Wikibooks does. -- Lost^(talk) 13:38, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help with adding URL

I've tried adding some links to the "Cruwys Morchard" page on Devon. They are all done in the same format and all the URLs are correct but the first URL I've added (a link to the Genuki Cruwys Morchard page) doesn't seem to work though it all seems to be in the required format. What am I doing wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dahliarose (talk • contribs)

The link you added is defunct or wrong. Nothing wrong with the way you added it. -- Lost^(talk) 13:36, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The URL is correct. I've checked and double-checked it. If you take the URL and insert it in your browser it works perfectly so I don't understand why it won't work on the Wikipedia page. Dahliarose

No, your URL is broken because you added an extra slash at the end of the URL. This breaks both your first and last links. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 13:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Yeah Dark Shikari is right. I just corrected it. -- Lost^(talk) 13:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you both for your help. It's very odd because I followed the format on another page (Woodbury, Devon) which included the final slash and the final slash is included in my other URLs so it does seem odd that it doesn't work in this instance. At least it works now!Dahliarose 14:23, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Let me correct the above statement. The address where the link points is without the slash, thats the reason the link did not work previously. So the formatting would be correct if the website address had the slash in it -- Lost^(talk) 14:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I don't understand. Now that the final slash has been removed the link works. It didn't work before when the final slash was included. The other two URLs I included both work with the final slash. Dahliarose 14:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It probably depends on the software the web server is running. Some types of web hosting software might accept the extra slash, while others might not. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 16:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify further, there's a difference between http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/ .Hope this clarifies -- Lost^(talk) 16:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's all very odd. I've just been playing around in the Sandbox:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tutorial_%28Related_site_links%29/sandbox#External_links

The links to Ashreigney work with or without a slash whereas the Cruwys Morchard and Great Torrington links only work without a slash. Dahliarose 19:19, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bad Redirect

Why does I.Q. High redirect to Duck Dodgers?

If you feel that it should not, please click here and start editing appropriately. I have no idea about either of the links so I dont know if it is appropriate -- Lost^(talk) 14:37, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like the redirect isn't completely off. Dr. I.Q. High is the one who sends Duck Dodgers on his mission to claim Planet X in the name of humanity. He is not mentioned in the article, though, so it might confuse people unfamiliar with the Duck Dodgers in the 24½th Century episode. However, I can't imagine why anyone would search for "I.Q. High" otherwise.

Confused about Shared IP Vandalism.

Should I bother warning shared IP's owned by schools? I've come across many IP's that have an increadibly long User Talk pages for some of these schools that have over 20 warnings. It just makes me wonder if I should just revert it and continue looking for other vandalism instead of spending time to post a warning on their User Talk page; since the information I've seen regarding actions taken against these IPs is hazy. Really just looking for confirmation that any action at all is taken against these vandals so I don't waste time warning them.. --Bluesquareapple 14:36, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's a good idea to keep a record of vandalism, if there is a case where a block is needed. If there's a persistent vandalism coming from a particular school, a block is probably a good idea, with signed-in accounts enabled. Don't know for sure, though. —Keakealani 15:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

made a mistake

Hi - I mis-read the intent of a web page specific to the Pacific Ocean, and changed some critical numbers to reflect the global ocean. I don't know the correct numbers for the Pacific. How can I return to the version of that page that was posted as of 10AM EDT on October 25, 2006?

If you click on the date of an old revision in the article's edit history, then click "edit this page" at the top, you should be able to edit the older version of the article. After that, type in an edit summary and click save. More information is available at WP:RV. jd || talk || 15:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It would appear that somebody else has already reverted your edit. jd || talk || 15:53, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

School use

I am using wikipedia in my web design class.

What is the best way to set this up for log-ins and monitoring of changes?

Wikipedia is only allowing 6 accounts to be created per day. That makes it tough. is there any way to speed this up?

Any other suggestions for logistics? I couldnt find a page about this.

I don't have any specific answers, but Wikipedia:Schools' FAQ and Wikipedia:School and university projects are links that may give you some general information. -- Natalya 16:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I couldnt find anything there to get around the issues. Any other ideas?BrandtSchneider 16:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia only allows 6 accounts to be created per day per IP address so if you have access to a different IP address (at home, in a library or (depending on how your school's system works) just on a different computer) then you can create more. If you need to create a massive number then you might be able to get help from a developer by asking here. I know that User:Fuzheado has done a lot of projects like this in the past, so he might be better qualified to answer any specific questions. Thanks. --Cherry blossom tree 16:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

just a comment

now i was just at mathematical chemistry and the only words there were matheeatical chemistry is a part of theoretical chamistry

no help at all

i believe that if you are going to start a article it shouldn't include less that 1 paragraph

now tell me if im wrong — Preceding unsigned comment added by Technodude (talk • contribs)

Wikipedia is a collaborative encyclopedia. As long as articles adhere to Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines, they can be on Wikipedia. A one line article not providing sufficient information is classified as a Wikipedia:Stub. A stub acts as the beginning of a potentially good article. Feel free to expand it and make it a better article if you have the knowledge. -- Lost^(talk) 16:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Adding a New Category

Hello and thanks for a great site!

I'm directly involved in the sonic drilling industry as the communications and marketing director for the company that holds the patent on this technology. We are trying to educate others and also establish the correct history behind the advent of sonic drilling technology which is still quite new. I have made a small contribution to the Auger Drilling category which redirects to Drilling Rig and under the various listings on this page there is one for Sonic Drilling. I've contributed some information there.

However, to be accurate, sonic drilling should not come under Auger Drilling. It is a completely different technique and does not use an auger of any type. All other drilling methods can fit under the head category of Auger but not ours. Would you consider the creation of a new category called Sonic Drilling? If so, then I have included a history of its development for your consideration below. There are also photos available on one of our sites at www.sonicdrilling.com.

History of Sonic Drilling

The roots of sonic drilling technology can be traced back to the early efforts of George Constantinesco, a Romanian intellectual who immigrated to England in 1910.

Constantinesco formulated the “Theory of Sonics” which was published by the British Admiralty in 1913 and, during that same year, he demonstrated a prototype of a rock drill working on a percussion system, with much success. Unlike pneumatic drills, Constantinesco’s vibratory prototypes were capable of quietly and smoothly boring through hard granite rock.

Less than 20 years later, another Romanian became interested in sonic vibrations. In 1930, encouraged by the work of Constantinesco, Romanian engineer Dr. Ion Basgan applied sonic vibrations to the drill pipe string of a conventional drilling rig. Amazingly, the result was increased drill depth and speed. The drill was also able to bore a truly vertical hole without distortion, which was not always possible with other methods.

Bore holes using this method were drilled at the Moreni oil fields of Romania in 1938 and Basgan received patents on this technique in Romania and the USA. Eventually, this led to interest in developing sonic drilling in the USA by the oil industry during the 1940’s and 1950’s.

Initial research and development of the rotary-vibratory drill began in the United States in 1946. For the first few decades, sonic rig research, conducted by Drilling Research Inc. (DRI), was developed almost exclusively for use in the petroleum industry with the intent of speeding up drill times.

Although a lack of funding ended DRI’s research in 1958, American inventor Albert Bodine continued development work on high-powered vibratory machines for various applications including drilling. Most of his efforts (funded by Shell Oil) were directed at large vibratory pile driving machines although his organization eventually developed a smaller vibrator for seismic shot-hole drilling.

Funding for the project ended in the late 1960’s and, in the early 1970’s, Bodine sold his drilling and pile driving equipment to Hawker Siddeley, a British aircraft manufacturer with Canadian offices. As a result, renewed efforts to develop the vibratory pile driver and drilling rig came to Canada.

One of the first persons hired for the Hawker Siddeley design team was a young mechanical engineer named Ray Roussy. While the team’s initial efforts focused on the pile driving equipment, later work concentrated on adapting the vibratory shot-hole driver to general shallow earth drilling.

From 1974 to 1983, approximately 12 rigs using early sonic technology were constructed and used in different applications. Unfortunately, these first machines experienced frequent breakdowns and lacked appropriate tooling to withstand the associated vibratory forces.

The recession of the early 1980’s discouraged Hawker Siddeley from continuing development work in this field. However, the original sonic rig heads and drill rigs built by Hawker Siddeley are still used today.

Ray Roussy left Hawker Siddeley in 1980 to continue development work on the Sonic drill head and to adapt it to different applications. Roussy also serviced and upgraded the original Hawker Siddeley drill heads to make them more reliable. He also constructed a number of additional sonic drill heads that were similar.

To prove the usefulness of this new technology to the subsurface exploration industry and to carry out long-term reliability testing of his equipment, Roussy built a sonic drill head and drill rig for himself and formed his own contracting company, Sonic Drilling Ltd.

As a result of Roussy’s 26 years of research and development efforts, he was awarded a number of US patents for his improvements to sonic drilling technology. Today, Roussy is president of Sonic Drill Corporation, a company which manufactures a product line of sonic drilling rigs utilizing the world’s most advanced and tested sonic drill heads.

With his patented technology in use around the world, Roussy can claim credit for not only improving on the efforts of those who went before him but of finally bringing a highly-sophisticated sonic drill to market.

Offering unparalled performance in overburden soil conditions, the Sonic drill head can drill three to five times faster than any other on the market – all without the use of drilling mud and with 70-80% less waste. Sonic drills can also provide continuous undisturbed core samples to a depth of 300 feet – a significant advantage over all other drills. Mounted with the “Roussy sonic drill head,” these rigs have become well-known favorites for use in environmental investigations and geothermal drilling projects.

Thank you for your time and consideration, Nancy Argyle 17:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi, if you would like to create an article on Sonic drilling (just click the link and start editing), feel free to. Just keep in mind that it would be good to have other sources than your website. If the content for the article comes solely from your site, some editors might think the article is spam. —Mitaphane _talk 18:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article apparently deleted, and I don't know why

I wrote up an article for the Pacific Northwest Herpetological Society. But all the links the article now come up telling me that Wikipedia doesn't have a page with that exact name. I looked through the Articles for Deletion but I didn't find anything, and I never recieved an email about it or anything. Can someone help me out here and tell me what happened? We thought the history and description of PNHS would make a good article.

Here's the AFD discussion. Looks like notability was the main issue. If you have any reliable source to back up the article, or a reason for it's importance, perhaps more editors would support it. —Mitaphane _talk 18:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to delete my account?

I would like to change my login name. So I would like to delete my account first. Could you please tell me how? Thank you!

Accounts generally can't be deleted. Its a lot easier to just tag your userpage and talk page with {{db-author}} and create a new account. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 19:15, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can see Wikipedia:Changing username for more information. Harryboyles 06:18, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted - The Last Alliance Website

The Last Alliance website I am posting to question the deletion of the entry for the Last Alliance website, a site for those followers of Games Workshops Lord of the Rings strategy battle games. For me it clearly meets the criteria set out and the objections of notability and spamming are clearly invalid. Regarding the issue of notability the site has been featured in a number of issues of an international magazine White Dwarf(which sells 80000 copies a month in the UK alone). Its administrators are consulted by Games Workshop on a regular basis and have been involved in much of the evolution of the games to the extent that they were called upon to represent Lord of the Rings gaming in a special anniversary edition of White Dwarf. The TLA has run worldwide online campaigns which have proved to be far more successful than Games Workshops own .The site currently has more than 9500 members. All of this was evidenced. As to the charge of spamming or self promotion I find this laughable. Whilst Chris and I are members of the site neither of us work for it or administrate it. To hold us responsible of spamming would be to find huge swaths of wikipedia spam. Anyone who has any involvement in a topic could be seen as spamming. If this site's wikki is deemed to be invalid might I question the following wikis on the same topics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_of_LoTRs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Council http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheeseweb

These are all far less notable even within the gaming society, have far fewer members - one had just 56 people involved - and provide far less evidence of their worth or impact. They contain factual errors. Now please note I am not asking for the withdrawal of these sites. Merely I suggest if these have been ok then why is not The Last Alliance Website?

I understand that the first draft of the page was poor and did not meet wikipedia's standards for entries. However the final version which was that deleted clearly did meet the requirements. I feel that this entry has been the victim of editors who do not know or understand gaming and have made decisions based upon this lack of knowledge.

Madusmatus

Then bring the issue to WP:DRV, where it belongs. Also note that "Wikipedia has far less notable sites" is not a valid reason for keeping an article. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 19:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also checkout WP:WEB for guideline for website coverage within the wikipedia. Many websites, especially ones that are limited to niches, just do not have any secondary sources, thus calling to question whether it can pass WP:V without violating WP:OR. From the looks of the deletion log, it looks like the article was deleted as "blatant advertising." Before going through with anything, you might want to make sure there are credible sources to backup information about the website. —Mitaphane _talk 02:17, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Suspect image copyright violations

Could somebody please take a look at these images? Which have been uploaded and put on the Huddersfield article. Image:Waterfront Huddersfield 2.jpg. This image is an artists impression copied from [:http://www.waterfrontquarter.co.uk/]. The website page states 'copyright 2006', but does not appear to give permission to copy them. Image:Castle hill.jpg which has been copied from [:http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/photo93191.htm]. A further image Image:Kingsgate Huddersfield.jpg has been put up which has no source. Richard Harvey 19:42, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Richard. We appreciate you helping Wikipedia out. I have checked on the images you linked and on Image:Waterfront Huddersfield 2.jpg and Image:Castle hill.jpg I have put up copy violation tags, I hope the users that submitted these works can give us more details on why they are fair use. I can not locate a source for Image:Kingsgate Huddersfield.jpg an have asked the user to post where he got it from. In the future you can help us by taking a look at Wikipedia:Copyright_problems.

Remember, we assume good faith on the part of the poster, and copyright can be difficult to prove. --Skywolf ^talk/_contribs 20:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

I need to make an infobox and after playing in the sandbox until I nearly went crazy, I've given up. I need to make an infobox for an album with three seperate chronological boxes. What's wrong with this?

{{Infobox Album | Name = Hey | Type = (Album, EP etc...) | Longtype = | Artist = Hey | Cover = (image.jpg) | Released = (date) | Recorded = Hey | Genre = Hey | Length = Hey | Label = Hey | Producer = Hey | Reviews = | Last album = Hey | This album = Hey | Next album = Hey | Misc = {{Extra chronology | Artist = Hey | Background = #ffff00 | Font size = | Last album = Hey | This album = Hey | Next album = Hey | Misc = {{Extra chronology | Artist = Hey | Background = #ffff00 | Font size = | Last album = Hey | This album = Hey | Next album = Hey }} }} }}

You'll have to click edit to see it properly... Dark j e di requiem 19:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like the templates are nested. I think this is what you want.—Mitaphane _talk 20:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{Infobox Album
| Name        = Hey
| Type        = (Album, EP etc...)
| Longtype    = 
| Artist      = Hey
| Cover       = (image.jpg)
| Released    = (date)
| Recorded    = Hey
| Genre       = Hey
| Length      = Hey
| Label       = Hey
| Producer    = Hey
| Reviews     = 
| Last album  = Hey
| This album  = Hey
| Next album  = Hey
| Misc        = {{Extra chronology
  | Artist = Hey
  | Background = #ffff00
  | Font size = 
  | Last album = Hey
  | This album = Hey
  | Next album = Hey
  }}
  {{Extra chronology
  | Artist = Hey
  | Background = #ffff00
  | Font size = 
  | Last album = Hey
  | This album = Hey
  | Next album = Hey
  }}
}}

Had problem. Please do not take down my article on Tracy Pratt

The computer I am using experienced some problem that deleted my sign-in function(I had signed in), so I ask for you to not take down the stub of former NHL defenceman Tracy Pratt I have submitted. Corey Bryant 20:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Articles won't be deleted if you can't sign in, don't worry. It meets WP:BIO and I no reason why it would be deleted. Thanks for contributing! --Wooty Woot? | contribs 21:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CSD tag

someone able to help me out with the tag I put here, it does not seem to have added it self to the CSD list? --Charlesknight 20:56, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That article was already speedily deleted.--Fuhghettaboutit 21:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

infobox

How do i create my own infobox?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Giltramirez (talk • contribs) 17:55, October 25, 2006 (UTC)

Just find an infobox you like, click edit, copy the code, place on the target page and change the parameters to suit your needs. If you'd like to explore blank infoboxes, see Category:Infobox templates--Fuhghettaboutit 22:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to block a user

There is a user User talk:12.27.243.6 who continually chooses to vandalize and spam various pages. Please let me know how to do it or let someone can block him do it. He is been given numerous warnings and refuses to follow them.

Report at WP:AIV after 4 warnings over a 24 hour period. --Alex (Talk) 23:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not necessarily four, but a warning that the user may be blocked, such as {{bv}}, {{test3}} or {{test4}} is usually required (as the threat often stops them). The user has actually received one today so if he repeats his behaviour, he can be blocked. If vandalism is especially blatant, it's not always sensible to go through every single warning level. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 00:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Right, when it is something that is blatantly vandalism like "INSERT NAME is gay", then just leave {{subst:blatantvandal}} or {{subst:bv}} on their talk page. That way the next time they do it an admin (or you, if you fit that description) can block them without further trouble. Like Sam mentioned, the warning is typically enough; especially if they know what warnings are required for them to be blocked. T H L 01:58, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Follow-up question: When should you use "subst" with the template or not? Newyorkbrad 01:59, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Follow-up question 2: According to his talk page, he was be given four warnings all the way to {{test4}} and nothing has been done about it, now what?

Subst any templates that should remain static, unchanging. Any templates you add to someone's usertalk should be substituted. If someone is past a test4, report it to AIV. It has to be somewhat recent though, or there should be evidence that it's the same person; many ISPs shuffle users among IP addresses, so it may not the be the same person who was issued the test4. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 02:48, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For specific questions as to when to when to substitute, one may consult Wikipedia:Template substitution, which delineates the arguments for and against substitution generally and enumerates those templates that should always be substituted. Joe 18:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 26

Infobox formatting

Just wondering, how could I format it so the two infoboxes on my userpage stop wrapping and instead either display one after the other, or both on the same horizontal level? --Nic the Man 13:05, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have fixed the infoboxs so that they are aligned horizontally. If you want to see what I did to fix it, check out the diffs in the history tab. —Mitaphane _talk 18:20, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. Now that I have the base I can tinker around but good job. *thumbs up*

Blocked

y am i being blockedfor vandalism when i didnt vandalise anything?

You are not blocked, otherwise you wouldn't be able to post here. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 09:43, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why i can't use Chinese version of Wikipedia??????

I'm from mainland China, and I can't use the Chinese version of Wikipedia!

Could you tell me why and how I can use it?

I'm in a hurry!

Wish you can solve this problem soon!

Do you get any errors when you try to view the web page, is it possible the Chinese version is blocked by the government? --Skywolf ^talk/_contribs 02:14, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say the latter. More here. Pacific Coast Highway ^{{blah • Happy Halloween! • WP:NYCS}} 02:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think i get errors. why you said it's possible the Chinese version is blocked by the government? There isn't anything should be forbade on Wikipedia.

I do really want to search some information here!

How do you know it's not working, if you don't get any errors? What's it doing, exactly? Wikipedia has been blocked partly because of certain articles which the Chinese government doesn't like (ie. on the English Wikipedia: Tiananmen Square protests of 1989); see the article Pacific Coast Highway linked to. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 03:04, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The was an article in the [[Wikipedia

Wikipedia Signpost|]] about a week ago about the status of blocking in mainland China. It may help give you an idea of the way thigs are at the moment. Here it is: Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2006-10-16/China_unblock. Harryboyles 06:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see the two pages:Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2006-10-16/China_unblock. Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 Could someone helps me to copy the contents of those articles and send them to my e-mailbox? It's : kalcia@163.com →Emilyou 01:12, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the ROT13 version of it. Use an ROT13 decoder to view it, such as this one. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 16:25, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sbe gur svefg gvzr va arneyl n lrne, hfref va znvaynaq Crbcyr'f Erchoyvp bs Puvan pna ernq zhpu bs Jvxvcrqvn'f pbagrag jvgubhg erfbegvat gb inevbhf pvephziragvba grpuavdhrf. Vagrearg erthyngbef ynfg jrrx cnegvnyyl yvsgrq gur oybpxvat bs Jvxvcrqvn. Ubjrire, nf Naqerj Yvu pbzzragrq, "gur zbfg vzcbegnag cneg bs Jvxvcrqvn sbe CEP hfref - gur Puvarfr irefvba - vf fgvyy abg trarenyyl npprffvoyr."

Gur yvsgvat bs gur oybpx jnf ercbegrq Ghrfqnl, 10 Bpgbore, ba gur Jvxvzrqvn Sbhaqngvba znvyvat yvfg ol Zbhagnva naq Fuv Munb, gjb cebzvarag pbagevohgbef gb gur Puvarfr-ynathntr Jvxvcrqvn. Gurl vaqvpngrq gung gur Ratyvfu Jvxvcrqvn naq zbfg bguref pbhyq abj or npprffrq, ohg gur Puvarfr Jvxvcrqvn erznvarq oybpxrq.

Nygubhtu abg gur svefg gvzr Jvxvcrqvn unf orra oybpxrq va gur znvaynaq bs Puvan, guvf unf rnfvyl orra gur ybatrfg. Gur pheerag ebhaq bs oybpxvat ortna ba 18 Bpgbore be 19 Bpgbore 2005, zrnavat gung gur Puvarfr Jvxvcrqvn jvyy unir orra oybpxrq sbe n shyy lrne nf bs yngre guvf jrrx. Gjb cerivbhf oybpxf va 2004 ynfgrq sbe bayl n srj qnlf be jrrxf.

Zrqvn ernpgvba

Gur arj qrirybczrag jnf fbba abgvprq ol gur bhgfvqr zrqvn, nygubhtu abg nyjnlf jvgubhg fbzr pbashfvba nobhg gur snpgf. Rqvgbe & Choyvfure choyvfurq n fgbel ba 11 Bpgbore nobhg gur haoybpxvat, erylvat va cneg ba gur negvpyr Oybpxvat bs Jvxvcrqvn va znvaynaq Puvan. Vg frrzrq gb gerng na rqvg ol na haertvfgrerq hfre nf vs vg jrer na bssvpvny Jvxvcrqvn fgngrzrag ba gur znggre.

Ercbegref Jvgubhg Obeqref, va vgf fgngrzrag nobhg gur yvsgvat bs gur oybpx, fnvq, "Jr pbatenghyngr gubfr va punetr bs Jvxvcrqvn, rfcrpvnyyl Wvzzl Jnyrf, jub pbhyq unir pubfra gb prafbe gurve bja fvgr gb trg bssvpvny oyrffvat. Vafgrnq gurl fghpx gb gurve cevapvcyrf naq fchearq frys-prafbefuvc." Nyyhqvat gb vagrearg pbzcnavrf gung unir orra zber nppbzzbqngvat gb gur CEP tbireazrag va erfgevpgvat npprff, gur betnavfngvba pnyyrq Jvxvcrqvn na rknzcyr sbe gurz gb sbyybj.

Gur Arj Lbex Gvzrf pnzr bhg jvgu n zber pnershyyl ercbegrq negvpyr nobhg gur fgbel ba 16 Bpgbore. Gur negvpyr vapyhqrq n dhbgr sebz Wvzzl Jnyrf gung, "Jr ner cyrnfrq gb frr gur punatr, ohg jbhyq yvxr gb frr gur Puvarfr irefvba haoybpxrq, gbb".

Zvkrq npprff erfhygf

Naqerj Yvu, jub vf onfrq va Orvwvat naq pheeragyl jbexvat ba n obbx nobhg Jvxvcrqvn, pbyyrpgrq ercbegf sebz inevbhf crbcyr nobhg jung gurl pbhyq naq pbhyq abg npprff. Juvyr gurer jrer fbzr ercbegf bs orvat noyr gb npprff ng yrnfg cneg bs gur Puvarfr Jvxvcrqvn, ur pbapyhqrq gung gur znwbevgl bs hfref cebonoyl pbhyq abg. Ercbegref Jvgubhg Obeqref fnvq vg unq pbasvezrq guvf va vgf grfgf nf jryy. Yvu hcqngrq uvf erfhygf ba 16 Bpgbore jvgu n puneg fubjvat gur npprffvovyvgl bs gur Ratyvfu naq Puvarfr irefvbaf, erfcrpgviryl, sebz n ahzore bs qvssrerag ybpngvbaf.

Va nqqvgvba, gur CEP unf erfhzrq svygrevat n inevrgl bs gbcvpf gung ner trarenyyl prafberq ba nyy jrofvgrf, fhpu nf gur Snyha Tbat zbirzrag. Fbzr eryngviryl frafvgvir fhowrpgf pbhyq or npprffrq jvgubhg erfhygvat va n oybpx, ubjrire, ng yrnfg ba gur Ratyvfu Jvxvcrqvn.

Gur npgvba ercbegrqyl pnzr nf gur fb-pnyyrq "Terng Sverjnyy" jnf tbvat guebhtu na hctenqr. Vg'f abg xabja jurgure guvf unq nal pbaarpgvba gb gur cnegvny yvsgvat bs gur oybpx. Nf va gur cnfg, ab bssvpvny rkcynangvbaf jrer ninvynoyr, fb vg vf qvssvphyg gb xabj gur ernfbaf sbe gur punatr be jurgure guvf vf zreryl n grzcbenel ercevrir.

But actually, I can't see anywords of those pages. The decoder does nothing to me.Emilyou 01:12, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that would be because someone accidently cleared a chunk of the help desk page. It's up there now. And please sign your posts with ~~~~. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 00:24, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a new comer in wikipedia. I want to seach something in CHINESE. How can things go like that? The goverment has no right to block here.Emilyou 01:22, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Loss of session data

Experiencing the "Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data" message whenever I try to edit a long page (like my user page). Sometimes it doesn't even display the message and just erases much of the bottom of the page. I've tried logging out and logging back in, reloading, deleting the en.wikipedia.org cookies, and empyting my Opera disk cache. Someoneinmyheadbutit'snotme 23:51, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

finding old merges

http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/queries/en_to_be_merged this is a tool that lists articles with a "merge" tag in order (so lets people find articles which have been tagged as 'merge' for a long time).

It doesn't seem to work for me, and I have a feeling it may be because of my computer. Can someone check and see if it works. And if it does, i don't suppose they could copy and past the results here for me. I'm trying to clean out articles with old merge tags. --`/aksha 03:25, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's a toolserver issue. Some tools can't receive information from the English Wikipedia. That's one of those tools. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 03:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

are you sure? Because...it's linked to from the category of articles to be merged here on the english wiki. The tool is also named "en_to_be_merged" and it says "This is a re-ordered version of the on-wiki Category:Articles to be merged" (with a link to the english wikipedia for the "Category:Articles to be merged" bit).

Assuming it can't, is there another way to find articles that have been tagged with merge for a long time? --`/aksha 03:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Editing and/or Censoring of Talk Pages

My name is user:jerry.mills and after searching all over wikipedia, I cannot come up with a concrete answer to the policy on editing and/or censoring the Discussion (Talk Page) of an article.

I have read the NPOV, No Original Research, Defamation and all other neutral policies and still cannot find an answer to my question.

The situation is as follow: I have included information in a talk page of an article that I consider to be of importance. The talk page keeps getting censored by one user, and my information is removed.

Now, I understand that the article needs to inform, not be an advertisement page, and be NPOV with appropriate data sources. But I was under the impression that the Talk Page was a place to discuss issues and that censoring of it was discouraged.

I have also received a warning in my user talk page regarding possible defamation statements. Is this warning appropriate? I have not defamed a user, nor have I used offensive or combative communications.

Now, I am a novice wikipedian, and my contributions might not be as impressive as other great productions displayed for the benefit of the community, but I was also under the impression that censorship was not encouraged, even it if is to defend somebody whom might be known in the real world by the censor.

I have tried to politely explain to the censor about not censoring the talk page, but it has become an editing war, and now, I have been accused as a possible defamer.

The information has be removed once again, and to keep a spirit or cooperation, I will not re-introduce the information. But the censoring question is important to me.

Can somebody point me in the right direction?

I would greatly appreciate any and all assistance.

Cordially,

user:jerry.mills

Our policy on biogrpahies of living persons mean that inadequately sourced negative information may be removed wherever it is found, not just from articles. That most definitely applied to your post, which relied on forum posts, which are not reliable sources. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 09:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, brother, what a mess. I've taken some time to try and trawl through the archives of the Strider Knives talk page (which seems to be the talk page in question, am I right, Jerry?).

To address your question of 'censorship'... this is difficult ground. As per the Wikipedia policy on libel, all libellious statements will be removed - so, yes, the editor who removed your comments about Mick Strider's service record was acting in accordance to policy. However, I can see a difficulty in drawing the line between libel and verifiable, negative information about a person. But I am no lawyer, and a bit in over my head on this one. I hope another user better versed in such matters will be able to help you.

Just as a side note, in future, please sign all your posts on talk pages with four tildes (like this: ~~~~), and please indent your discussions (using colons, see: Wikipedia:Talk_page#Formatting), otherwise it's an absolute nightmare to sort out who said what when. Also, the "Show preview" button is your friend, it will avoid making a whole string of small changes to the page, saving it every time, which not only makes trawling through the history more difficult, but also puts an unnecessary load on the Wikipedia servers (just to emphasise, this last one is a minor point!)

Right then. A few other points. There seems to be an awful lot of editing and rearranging other user's comments happening on this talk page, which is a no-no. For instance, this (followed up from this) looks fishy unless Mike Searson wasn't logged in when he posted the first comment. Also, the wholesale removing of entire sections (such as here) looks a bit off to me. Yes, whole sections can be removed but shouldn't unless there is a good reason (see below), and if they are, a header should be left in place, with a note saying why the section was removed (and linking to the diff which shows the removed section can be helpful so people clearly know what was removed).

Let me (try to!) explain: In principle, things should not be removed from talk pages. Conversations should be left as they are, one should not edit one's old comments (let alone other people's comments!) so as to keep a record of what was said. If you want to amend something you said earlier, you can do so by using <s>text to be deleted</s> (which looks like this: ~~text to be deleted~~).

However, there are exceptions to the "don't remove or change past things on talk pages" rule. Libel is one of these. For legal reasons, libel and defamation should be removed from talk pages (leaving the header intact and putting in a note, like I explained above, would make things clear). So, yes, technically by questioning Mick Strider's service record, you were getting a bit close to defamation. I am no lawyer (someone else help on this point, please?), but this could be counted as libel, hence the warning on your talk page.

From my reading of your contributions, I do not think you were doing this maliciously, and I appreciate the message you left for Mike Searson. One of the Wikipedia principles is assume good faith. I don't think that anyone can accuse you (based on your edit history) of acting maliciously.

I know this is not of much help, but I hope it has given you at least some background on the issue. — QuantumEleven 10:02, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maharashtrian Saint of 17th Century

Hi! I am Vivek from India, I have read a lot of information about the saints from India on your portal. This is impressive. I also wish to send some information about a saint of 17th century who has contributed a lot for Marathi literature. This saint is next incarnation of Saint Tukaram . Unfortunately this saint hand his literature is in dark. May I request you to guide me so I can send some information about this saint to you and it will help every one to know about that saint. Thanks & regards

Vivek Vipra — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vivekvipra (talk • contribs)

Hi Vivek, you can get in touch with the folks at Wikipedia:WikiProject Maharashtra. They would have common interests with you. ~~If you dont have a username, I would advise you get one~~ -- Lost^(talk) 08:05, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Signature

How do I change my signature? Littleghostboo 08:55, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Go to 'my preferences' at the top right, click the 'raw signature' check box, and type whatever you want in the 'signature' box. My signature, for example, is generated by [[User:Samuel Blanning|Sam Blanning]]<sup>[[User talk:Samuel Blanning|(talk)]]</sup>. For more information, see WP:SIG. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 09:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also see Wikipedia:How to fix your signature for some more detailed instructions -- Lost^(talk) 09:45, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Littleghostboo 07:46, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pandoh dam image

I want to insert a picture of a dam. Since photography is not allowed there is no option rather than inserting a copyright image. Can I insert the copyright image of a dam and that image has been requested also. thanksSushant gupta 10:44, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A copyright image can only be used if a valid claim of "fair use" can be made. Copyright does not stop applying just because it is inconvenient! A great many subjects can never be illustrated for this reason. Perhaps in this case there is a justificable claim, however; it would need a fair use expert. Please tell us the source of the photo in as much detail as you can, including where and how it was published or whether an original is held. Notinasnaid 10:59, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

adding categories to articles

When adding a category to an article, it's just a simple internal link right? Like [[Category:category name]]

However, i see people adding a "|something" into category links on a lot of articles. So things like [[Category:category name|something else]]

Exactly what is the purpose of the "|something else" bit? Does it actually do something?

Or is it just the result of people not realizing that the "|something else" bit will not show up. --`/aksha 12:14, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's a sort key; the articles are sorted in the category according to what comes after the bar. (The page name is used by default.) For instance, this method is used to sort categories containing people by the family name rather than whatever name is given first in the name of the article. --ais523 12:17, 26 October 2006 (U T C)

For a detailed explanation, see "Using Categories" on meta. Also, the Categorization FAQ may be of interest to you. — QuantumEleven 13:02, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ahh, thanks. I was wondering why so many people where doing that if it didn't serve any purpose. --`/aksha 13:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Quotes and references

I wonder if you could answer a couple of questions please.

If you are quoting from a document that is in the public domain, should you still use quotation marks and a citation? My inclination would be to do this, but I have noticed that some people don't.

Secondly, if a quotation contains a reference, how should you treat the reference? I am thinking of something like: "Mortality is relatively low, onset is often at a younger age, and most of the indirect costs are derived from lost or reduced productivity at the workplace, school, and home (Rupp et al., 1998)." Should you add the details of Rupp to references even if you have never read it (which would seem to go against Wiki guidelines? Staug73 13:37, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:CITE. Regardless of the source (public domain or not), you should place a citation in the document when you make a claim that isn't common knowledge, is a held opinion by some people, or is very specific information like a numeric statistic.

As far as referencing style goes there are a number of different styles. See Citation styles. Use whatever you're most comfortable with or, for the sake of article consistency, whatever the article has already started to use. —Mitaphane _talk 17:51, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. So - if you lift a paragraph from a public domain document word for word, you should put it in quotation marks?Staug73 12:26, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

editing the entry name

I created a bio page on Don Schlesinger, the Blackjack expert and author and by mistake, failed to capitalise the first letter of his last name. I have tried to edit it but the entry title seems to be uneditable. Can you fix this please or tell me how to do it? <emailaddressgobyebye>

You have to be logged in (as you also have to be to create an article in the first place). Click the "move" link at the top of the article. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 15:42, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Biographies

Need some information on Sir William Wallace-Braveheart.

You might look on Google, as we don't seem to have a page for him. In the future, please use the reference desk. --Wooty Woot? | contribs 15:50, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See the article William Wallace. NielsF 15:55, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is a page -- leave out the "Sir." 71.192.45.207 01:28, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Making a wiki similar to Wikipedia

I am an employee of a large company who works in the documentation department of one of their products. I have always heavily used wikipedia because I find it to be very reliable and due to it's success I'm working on a proposal that our documentation should be done in a similar way with an emphasis on how secure it is and how it's so easy to edit and capture suggestions from customers viewing the documentation. Would somebody be able to post a very high level description of how Wikipedia works including everything involved (ie: security, storage, access, etc.)

You can see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki -- Lost^(talk) 17:01, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New article procedure

Hi!

Sorry to disturb you, but one major question remains after I've read the various tutorials.

I finally saw the "new article" title box in the FAQ area, but I still don't see how I'm initially to get to that (other then while in the FAQ).

It seems like there should be a "New Article" button or item on the main opening Wiki screen (I start out on the English Main_Page screen), but I see no such thing.

How exactly does one begin the new-article process (so that the "title" box appears along with the button to begin editing)?

Thank you!

Bruce Limber

(Please feel free to email me the answer to my registered email address.)

Is this in reference to the big yellow box on this page? To start a new article and bypass this page, you may simply type it in on the search bar on the left. If the page doesn't exist (and it shouldn't since you're the first to make it), you'll seeNo page with that title exists, then, You can create this page or request it. Simply click create this page there and you will be presented with the editing box at last! Hyenaste ^(tell) 20:20, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An important note: After you type the name in the search box, don't press "enter", but rather click the "go" button. Otherwise a text search will be performed. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 17:34, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Monobook burned?

Did something happen to the Monobook format of Wikipedia? I come here, and all of a sudden, the page tabs, the margin, and the correct fonts and spacing are missing. Is this temporary, a glitch, or someone hacking into my computer? - The Lake Effect 20:44, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is it still affecting you? A cursory search of Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) doesn't reveal any other similar incidents. Hyenaste ^(tell) 00:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There was a recent change to Monobook diff but it should not affect anything like that. I have had similar glitches with Monobook, after affecting underlining, and learned that it was sometimes due to the CSS code not loading fully in the browser. The fix is to do a page reload a few times, a "super-reload", quit/restart browser, logout/login to Wikipedia, or as a last resort, restart your computer. --MCB 01:05, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

INMATE RELEASE

I'M LOOKING FOR THE THINGS FCI INMATES CAN HAVE ONCE THEY GO TO A HALFWAY HOUSE. IN PORTLAND OREGON

Hi, this an online encyclopedia. This is the help desk, a place for asking questions on how to use the wikipedia. Try your question( MINUS THE CAPITAL LETTERS), over at this reference desk. —Mitaphane _talk 21:44, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

psychological sympton

I NEED TO WRITE A OUTLINE ABOUT BRAIN TUMORS,I GOT PART OF IT BUT WHAT I NEED HELP WITH IS THE INTRODUCTION AND WITH THE CONCLUSION AND SUMMARY,PLUS HELP WITH THE PSYCHOLOGICAL SYMPTOM I NEED TO DO THIS BY TOMMORROW,TOMMOROW IS THE DUE DATE

This is a place to ask questions related to the Wikipedia itself; for other things, you want the Wikipedia:Reference_desk. No one will do your homework for you here, though. If I'm reading what you're saying correctly, you'll probably want to read the brain tumor article for details on the symptoms and such. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:51, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

October 27

Enviromental laws of Connecticut

What are the enviromental laws of Connecticut? Just the basic eviromental laws.

Perhaps you should clarify your question and ask at the Humanities Reference desk. They will ask for more detail about your issue, warn you that they aren't lawyers, remind you to read the local lawbooks, then provide you with a (usually) satisfactory answer. Hyenaste ^(tell) 00:27, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Footnoting

I've been trying to use the <ref>citation<ref> to insert a footnote number in the text of an article and <references/> to indicate where the corresponding footnotes should go. I've deleted any spaces between <ref>citation<ref> and the end of the sentences (sometimes corresponding to the end of a paragraph) where the number should go. Yet -- somehow the article I'm working on (Elizabeth Cady Stanton) always shows up as being cut off after the first footnote number when I preview the article before saving. What am I doing wrong?71.192.45.207 01:17, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, put <nowiki></nowiki> tags around any code that you are talking about. That way the code is just plain text and is not rendered. Secondly, the correct usage of the ref tags is <ref>REFERENCE</ref>. Note the slash before the second ref that tells the computer where your ref ends. HTH Broken Segue 00:53, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for the help -- that took care of it. And thanks for the "nowiki" tag info.71.192.45.207 01:17, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removing a redirect from the wp search box

An editor wants to write an article about a person whose name is the same as Ralph Emerson's second wife. Entering that name in the search box redirects to Ralph's page--there is no article dedicated to her alone. I think the name should be 'released' for use in the more appropriate article, and that maybe some note (with link) could appear in the new one that there's another Lydia Jackson described in the article about her husband, Ralph. Can someone tell me how to do this? Thanks Professor marginalia 01:09, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

At the top, it'll say "Redirected from *redirect article name*. You can click that link to go to the redirect page and edit it into a disambiguation page or another article. --Wooty Woot? | contribs 01:20, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Creating account

When I tried to create an account, I was told there was no account in my name, which I thought would have been good. However, the form blocked me from creating an account.

Best, Jay Parsons

Any more information? What kind of error you got? --Wooty Woot? | contribs 01:29, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Check if you had a "@" in your name. We don't allow the "@" symbol in usernames anymore to prevent people from registrating e-mail addresses. --`/aksha 01:59, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where do I submit my copywrite freeing idea?

I was watching the TV show the hour and the host mentioned that Wik is looking for ideas to spend money (i dont remember how much) on purchasing something copyrighted to uncopywrite it. I would like to know where exactly to submit my idea. Please help me out.

thanks!

It's at Meta. It's here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Copyright_wishlist Help us build a copyright wishlist =) --`/aksha 01:55, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiLyrics

I think a new source called WikiLyrics would be fantastic!

Lyrics are accepted at Wikisource as long as they are free of copyright (a good rule of thumb is published prior to 1923). Any modern lyrics however are probably copyrighted and it would not be legal to but them on the internet.--Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 03:42, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User Account and sister Projects

Ok: I'm a new user and would like to somehow crossreference my watchlist to pages in sister projects - i.e WikiUniversity and OpenLibrary. Do I have to create a new account for each project and keep separate watchlists or have I missed something?

Thanks Keep The Peace 03:25, 27 October 2006 (UTC)IdeaNorth --Keep The Peace 03:25, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes you currently have to create a seperate account for each wiki. However soon a Single user Login will be implemented to eliminate this need for separate accounts on Wikimedia wikis at least.. It is best if you use the same password and email addres for each account to make the transistion smoother. Even after Single User Login is implemented, I believe you will still have seperate watchlists for each wiki, but integrating this is on the wishlist for someday.--Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 03:37, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For more information about the future single user login, see m:SUL. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 03:56, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Adding

Are non-administrative users able to Add Articles (not edit) on people, places, things, etc.? It might have been covered already in the questions above but I really didn't feel like looking through them all.

Yes, but you must have a login. See Wikipedia:Your first article. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:40, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For future reference, this is the fourth question on the very frequently asked questions. — QuantumEleven 07:56, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Finding Vital Information & Indexes

First Question: Where is the How-To page to explain everything I need to know about User Draft Pages

Second Question: Where do I find the Index (or the Index to Indexes) for Help Pages, Policy Pages, Guideline Pages, et al

Thank you --A green Kiwi in learning mode 04:03, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For userpages, see Wikipedia:Userpage. For policies and guidelines, see Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines and for help index, see Help:Contents -- Lost^(talk) 05:08, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much Lost. I greatly appreciate your willingness to help direct a newbie. I have been frantic for indexes, for I have found using the search function to most usually lead me to long lists of user pages. Thanks again! --A green Kiwi in learning mode 05:20, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

noble prize winners

I want note with pictures of Scients of India who own the noble prize in physics, chemestry, biology.

You can begin at Nobel laureates of India -- Lost^(talk) 08:55, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Grammar review

Where can I ask for other editors to check my grammar on an article? Or, if it would be simpler, could someone here check my grammar on Reverence? Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 09:50, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I dont see any issues with the grammar. Put some reliable sources in the article and nominate it for WP:DYK -- Lost^(talk) 10:24, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, thanks! Dismas|^(talk) 10:33, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request for feedback is a good place to get a new or newly expanded article proofread. Anchoress 10:38, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article Titles or Article title

Hi: I see various titles of articles with capitalization of the first letter for each of the nouns. Other titles I see capitalization of the first letter of the first word only.

Which is proper: all nouns or just the very first word? or are both proper?

Curious: If I see a article title not spelled correctly, how does one make a correction?

Thank you, LarryBH

Generally speaking, we capitalize article titles and section headings as though they were sentences. So Benjamin Franklin is capitalized, being a proper noun, but Volga trade route is not, since it's a sentence. If that makes sense. However, redirects can come in handy to solve this question without too much problem. When a page's title should be changed, you should not copy-paste its content (which would break GFDL compliance), but should instead make use of Wikipedia's move function. Hope that helps -- happy editing! Luna Santin 10:02, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi: Yes, this helped me. One learns each day. Thank you, LarryBH

problem with the user

I have a problem with the user Angryxpeh, who is deleting link for the NGO Barinfo from the page dedicated to my town Bar in Montengro http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar%2C_Montenegro .

He does it everytime when I put the link, his reason is that this link is spamlink?! The site is www.barinfo.cg.yu has daily updated news from my town. It is not commercial, because is managed by a non-profit organization, we live from donnations! The link is on the same page in Serbian, Italian, Croatian and Bosnian language, and nobody is deleting it there!

How can I put the link of Barinfo NGO, without be deleted every time?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by barinfo (talk • contribs)

What you need to do is discuss this on the talk page of the article. Explain why you think it is not spam as per Wikipedia guidelines. Go through the guidelines here -- Lost^(talk) 10:52, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your message suggests you should absolutely not be posting this link, if I understand rightly. You say "we live from donations". This means that (1) you want to use Wikipedia to bring in more donations and (2) this is a link for an organition you are connected with. Both of these are absolutely wrong under the guidelines in Wikipedia:External links and I would support the removal. Notinasnaid 12:27, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

searching wikipedia with other search bars

I recently purchased inquisitor, a search tool that modifies google's search bar in Safari (Apple's browser) an d allows searching of multiple sites. I have been looking for the url that is associated with your search engine but can't find it. How would I obtain it?

Marcus

Wikipedia has a search engine, but you should use Google's instead, as it is much superior. Wikipedia's search engine is months out of date, and case sensitive. Just add "site:en.wikipedia.org" to the Google search. Notinasnaid 14:28, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Penis Enlargement

I want to know about ways of naturally enlarging the penis without using any drug. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.252.181.15 (talk • contribs)

This is the help desk for questions about how to use Wikipedia. I would suggest looking at our article on Penis enlargement, and if you can not find anything there, ask a question at the Reference Desk, where questions not about Wikipedia are answered. Th ε Halo ^Θ 13:59, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Text turn to colours

I kinda want to use this for my User page could someon tell me what to type to change text into colours I've tryed to find the article--Eddy king 14:14, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can use html tags to change color of text. Thats what I do in my signature -- Lost^(talk) 17:14, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

monali dash

i want to delete this article created by me14:34, 27 October 2006 (UTC)14:34, 27 October 2006 (UTC)~a_suyash 14:34, 27 October 2006 (UTC)14:34, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any perticular reason, as the way to delete articles is different depending on the reasons for deletion. Th ε Halo ^Θ 14:36, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Formatting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markov_chain#Music

The two tables in this section are stacked up on top of one another. Could someone show me how or arrange them in a more compact way? Maybe have the text underneath the tables on the right hand side, and the tables on the left.

Table 1 | Table 2 | Remaining Section Text

instead of:

Table 1

Table 2

Remaining Section Text.

Cheers. Magic Window 14:56, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Citing copyrighted work

Hi, perhaps this has been asked, but I've tried to search in FAQ and other WP copyright pages, but still not sure about it. Obviously, it is not allowed to copy contents for copyrighted work, but how much is the copy paste information? If there is a figure/number in the copyrighted work that we copy pasted here, is it also copyvio?

This is one example I am facing now. At the bottom of this page [7], it says:

Copyright © 2000 Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame, Inc. All rights reserved. 
Republication or redistribution of the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame content is 
expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame. 
The Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, 
or for any actions taken in reliance thereon.

Hence, it is prohibited to redistribute the content, but I want to include, for example, how many times he won the game (which is 11). If I copy this content and put a proper citation to the webpage, is it copyvio?

Thanks in advance. — Indon (reply) — 15:19, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, citing a source is not the same as copyvio. Only if you were copying text verbatim, it would be copyvio. Plus AFAIK, information cannot be copyrighted. What you are doing is taking information and citing the source. That is ok -- Lost^(talk) 17:12, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How to do a redirection

Hi!

One more question, please!

How do I create a redirection, for example if I want to create an term "A" that will send the reader to article "B" automatically?

Thank you! :-)

Bruce Limber

Oh--and can an article title (heading) contain multiple aliases right there in the article head, or must every alias be a separate redirection?

Help:Redirect. I'm not sure what you mean by the second question. An example of a redirect is:

#REDIRECT [[Second Page]]

That must be the only thing on the page for it to work. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 15:41, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Notability Policy

Greetings. I am doing a bit of research and putting in some thought on the creation of a notability policy for a WikiProject of interest to me. Is there a general template or discussion on the subject of notability policies? Are they determined specifically by participants within a given WikiProject? Can anyone suggest a few good examples?

Thank you in advance for your suggestions. Internazionale 17:14, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia:Notability for guidelines. The page also contains links to specific topics such as companies, personalities etc. The talk page of each of these guideline pages can be used for discussion. Is that what you are looking for? -- Lost^(talk) 17:19, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

sections on all pages

I want to make all pages have the "+" sign that appears only on the discussion pages. This will make all articles section-based. This is for a wiki in another language. --Bharath 17:32, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The motivation is to avoid the need to edit the whole article ever. Only section editing should be sufficient. -- Bharath 18:32, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Section

I would like to have one part of a page __NOEDITSECTION__ and another section editable. Is this possible???Chris5897 17:35, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not really. Only adminstrators can make a page protected anyways. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 17:42, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Languages that read/write right-to-left

When I first started using wikipedia, I would view Hebrew, Arabic, Persian, etc. writing on English pages (i.e., pages like List of Nations) correctly. But if I copied a word, and then pasted it onto a Word document, it would paste left-to-right (so the word was arranged in a backwards fashion). Now, when I view the words on Wikipedia, they are viewed in a left-to-right fashion, so they appear incorrect to begin with. This does not happen when I click on a page on a translated (in Hebrew, Arabic, Persian, etc.) Wikipedia page.

Is this due to my viewing, or to the author of the page? Is there a way to fix this? I'm using Safari in OS 10.4.8, if this helps. Paploo 18:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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 == sections on all pages ==
-I want to make all pages have the "+" sign that appears only on the discussion pages. This will make all articles section-based. This is for a wiki in another language.--[[User:Heavy chariot|Bharath]] 17:32, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
+I want to make all pages have the "+" sign that appears only on the discussion pages. This will make all articles section-based. This is for a wiki in another language. --[[User:Heavy chariot|Bharath]] 17:32, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
+: The motivation is to avoid the need to edit the whole article ever. Only section editing should be sufficient. -- [[User:Heavy chariot|Bharath]] 18:32, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
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