User talk:力

• I generally reply inline to comments posted here, and only rarely use {{replyto}}.
• For the forseeable future, a majority of my activity will be between 1800GMT Sunday and 0400GMT Monday. I will respond to pings and comments here at other times. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:39, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Signpost help

Hi, thanks for starting the Arbitration Report this month. Will you be able to continue on it? There is a new case request at WP:ARC opened last night or today. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:52, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

@Bri: I won't have time until Sunday, but I plan to update that report (and copy-edit anything not yet copy-edited) then. power~enwiki (π, ν) 17:01, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

That should be fine. Thanks! ☆ Bri (talk) 17:26, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject Portals

The Portals WikiProject has been rebooted.

You are invited to join, and participate in the effort to revitalize and improve the Portal system and all the portals in it.

There are sections on the WikiProject page dedicated to tasks (including WikiGnome tasks too), and areas on the talk page for discussing the improvement and automation of the various features of portals.

Many complaints have been lodged in the RfC to delete all portals, pointing out their various problems. They say that many portals are not maintained, or have fallen out of date, are useless, etc. Many of the !votes indicate that the editors who posted them simply don't believe in the potential of portals anymore.

It's time to change all that. Let's give them reasons to believe in portals, by revitalizing them.

The best response to a deletion nomination is to fix the page that was nominated. The further underway the effort is to improve portals by the time the RfC has run its course, the more of the reasons against portals will no longer apply. RfCs typically run 30 days. There are 19 days left in this one. Let's see how many portals we can update and improve before the RfC is closed, and beyond.

A healthy WikiProject dedicated to supporting and maintaining portals may be the strongest argument of all not to delete.

We may even surprise ourselves and exceed all expectations. Who knows what we will be able to accomplish in what may become the biggest Wikicollaboration in years.

Let's do this.

See ya at the WikiProject!

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   10:24, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Just a note...

But at the Teahouse, you probably want to dial things back a little bit to...basically just being welcoming and getting them to contributing in a way that gets them past their first few hundred edits. Statistically, that's the biggest hurdle that the vast majority of new users don't ever get past. You don't...necessarily want to jump straight to "write an FA"... because... they don't know what that is and they're not totally sure they care yet. Even if they did, they're at least a year off from even trying, even if they're particularly gifted. And...leading off with "treacherous bureaucracy" isn't necessarily a great way to welcome someone into the community. GMG^talk 02:49, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

I felt it was a reasonable goal compared to "I have 4 edits and am dying of cancer and want to be an admin". If they know enough to know what an admin is, I think starting on an FA is reasonable. power~enwiki (π, ν) 02:52, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Umm...Yes, but you're looking at it from the perspective of someone who understands Wikipedia, and not someone who doesn't. Most people at the Teahouse are there because Hostbot invited them, because they're new, and they have no idea what they're doing, and often don't really understand the meanings of the words they're using in a technical Wikipedia sense. Someone who knows what an admin is, doesn't show up to the Teahouse in their fourth edit and asks to be an admin. Trust me, this question comes up about once every two or three weeks. Most of them mean well, and are just asking how to get more involved. A good portion of them don't yet understand that we're volunteers and not employees. GMG^talk 03:01, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

I still think that strongly encouraging that type of user to work on improving articles is the correct approach. Beyond that, there's a reason I generally avoid the Teahouse, feel free to ask on IRC if it's somehow unclear why. power~enwiki (π, ν) 03:03, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

It's an exercise in empathy, to the point where sometimes I write the same comment three times before I post it. But it requires being keenly aware of how you were yourself when you were on your fourth edit. GMG^talk 03:13, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Regarding article Lau Ah Kok

May I know why have you tagged the article Lau Ah Kok as not notable? And how do the references may not meet the criteria for reliable sources?Zulfadli51 (talk) 05:24, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

The references are largely obituaries, and founding a chain of 9 grocery stores isn't sufficiently important to automatically pass the notability guidelines. I do think it would probably survive a deletion discussion, but am not 100% certain. power~enwiki (π, ν) 05:27, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-17

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• All Wikipedias now have Page Previews.
• The iOS and Android apps now have synced reading lists. This means you can save articles to a private list that can be seen on your other devices if you use the apps.
• The icons in the 2010 wikitext editor have changed. [1]
• The visual editor and the 2017 wikitext ask you to write an edit summary after you press Publish. This button now also shows an ellipsis. This is to show that pressing Publish is not the last step. [2]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 April. It will be on all wikis from 26 April (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 24 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 25 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• <mapframe> will come to most Wikipedias in May. This means that you can put interactive maps in the articles. Nine Wikipedias that use a strict version of flagged revisions will not get this feature in May. [3]
• The rollback function could change. This was a German community request. All editors with rollback rights can leave feedback on the proposed solution. The last day to leave feedback is 4 May (UTC).

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18:16, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-18

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The parameter for unpatrolled edits in recent changes filters changed name. You might need to update saved filters and links. [4]

Problems

• We are migrating wikis from Tidy to Remex. Because of a bug the 250 wikis which do not yet use Remex were switched on 23 April. This is two months early. This meant that pages with broken wikitext showed wrongly to readers. The bug was undone the next day. You can help fix broken wikitext to avoid this problem when your wiki switches. Tidy will be removed on all wikis before July 2018. You can follow the process on Phabricator. [5]

Changes later this week

• You will be able use CodeMirror in the 2017 wikitext editor on all wikis. CodeMirror helps with syntax highlighting. It has previously been a beta feature and only available on wikis with scripts that are written from left to right. [6]
• When an administrator blocks someone they will have a calendar they can use to choose when the block ends. This is to make it easier to pick a specific date. [7]
• You can soon turn on the Performance Inspector in the Editing section in your preferences. It shows information about the performance of pages. This could be the size of modules in the page, how many CSS selectors are defined on the page and how many are used, or the size of the images on the page. This tool is intended to help editors fix pages that load slowly. [8]
• There is a new abuse filter function called equals_to_any. You can use it to check if its first argument is equal (===) to any of the following ones. For example you can use it to check if the page's namespace is amongst a given set of values in a more compact way than you could earlier. You can read more on mediawiki.org.
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 May. It will be on all wikis from 3 May (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 1 May at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 2 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The Wikimedia Cloud Services team is working on a new project called Toolhub. The goal is to make it easier for Wikimedians to discover software tools they can use. You can leave feedback on the talk page or email jharewikimedia.org to leave private feedback.
• All wikis with fewer than 100 high-priority linter errors in all namespaces will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 2 May. Other wikis will be recommended to switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Wikibooks wikis with fewer than 100 high-priority linter errors in the main namespace will switch on 9 May. Tidy will be removed on all wikis before July 2018. [9][10][11]

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16:18, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Manny Ramirez Jr

Hello Power~enwiki. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Manny Ramirez Jr, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: plays for notable team, son of notable player. Thank you. SoWhy 07:52, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Son of notable player isn't remotely a credible claim of importance or significance. Playing in the Atlantic League of Professional Baseball I suppose is enough to survive A7; I thought it was a semi-pro league (which wouldn't be), but it appears to be fully professional, though not related to MLB. power~enwiki (π, ν) 17:35, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	I'm not sure why, but this scentence is one of the funniest things I've ever read. I'm not sure if you meant it to be funny, but I found it hilarious. 💵Money💵emoji💵Talk 22:59, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Another RfC on Net Neutrality

A month ago you participated in an RfC at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 147#Net neutrality. The same proposal has been posted again at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Proposal: A US-only CentralNotice in support of Net Neutrality. (This notice has been sent to all who participated in the prior RfC, regardless of which side they supported). --Guy Macon (talk) 20:50, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Tech News: 2018-19

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The Wikimedia Commons mobile app has a new version. It is now easier to find nearby places that need pictures. It helps you with direct uploads and title and category suggestions. The app only works on Android phones. [12]

Problems

• The abuse filters had a problem with blocks where you had changed how long they last. It used the default length everywhere. This was in late April. Abuse filter users should make sure the right block length is used and change them if needed. This is only for filters where how long blocks last had been changed. [13]

Changes later this week

• The advanced search function beta feature will be on all Wikimedia wikis. It makes it easier to use some of the special search functions that most editors don't know exist. [14]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 May. It will be on all wikis from 10 May (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 8 May at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 9 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• All wikis with fewer than 100 high-priority linter errors in the main namespace will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 16 May. Other wikis will switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Tidy will be removed on all wikis before July 2018. [15][16]

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16:28, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

GNG v SNGs

I'm planning to work on expanding User:Power~enwiki/GNG and SNGs this weekend. If I'm forgetting something obvious that should be included on a page of this type (or it already exists somewhere else), please tell me. power~enwiki (π, ν) 06:04, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

AfD

Via IRC, you criticized the fact that I had !voted 20 times in 6 minutes. How exactly is that unusual? Septrillion (talk) 13:14, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

• It generally takes more than 15 seconds to read the AfD discussion and linked article, and definitely more to evaluate the sourcing. Rapid-fire "Delete - fails WP:GNG" votes aren't terribly useful to anybody (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jessie Janowitz, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vecteezy, and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Upper Deck's National Hockey Card Day all have the same vote within the same minute. power~enwiki (π, ν) 16:24, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

• And yet all of the AfDs, keep and delete, are getting closed in my favor. Septrillion (talk) 19:13, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

PageRank

From a project I've been working on, here are some top pages on Wikipedia by PageRank (my results haven't stabilized yet). Locations (countries and cities) feel over-represented at the top due to the large number of inbound links (every biography will link to the country the person is from, for example, and country articles tend to link to history and geography articles). power~enwiki (π, ν) 22:27, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

1. United States
2. World War II
3. Roman Empire
4. Latin
5. Soviet Union
6. Ottoman Empire
7. India
8. European Union
9. United Kingdom
10. France
11. China
12. Islam
13. Europe
14. Byzantine Empire
15. World War I
16. Egypt
17. Christianity
18. Greek language
19. United Nations
20. Russia
21. Turkey
22. Iran
23. English language
24. Catholic Church
25. Italy
26. Middle Ages
27. French language
28. Germany
29. Spain
30. Aristotle
31. Anatolia
32. Syria
33. Russian Empire
34. Ancient Greek
35. Ancient Greece
36. Mesopotamia
37. British Empire
38. Greece
39. Buddhism
40. Mediterranean Sea
41. Ancient Rome
42. Israel
43. Iraq
44. Oxygen
45. Renaissance
46. Constantinople
47. Australia
48. Pakistan
49. Roman Republic
50. Eastern Orthodox Church
51. NATO
52. Alexander the Great
53. Achaemenid Empire
54. Holy Roman Empire
55. Netherlands
56. Arabic language
57. German language
58. Canada
59. Hydrogen
60. Cold War
61. Earth
62. Spanish language
63. Black Sea
64. UNESCO
65. Muslim
66. Japan
67. Nazi Germany
68. Asia
69. Central Asia
70. Ukraine
71. Ancient Egypt
72. Levant
73. Brazil
74. Afghanistan
75. Rome

Kelly Sadler

I admit it needs a lot of work to be a well written article. However, she was a reporter of medium prominence for nearly 3 years at Bloomberg. Her Wikipedia article is bad timing because she should have gotten an article then before this McCain attack. The way it is now, many people are just beginning to hear of her and then come to the fast conclusion they want the article deleted. Just because you hadn't heard of someone, doesn't mean they don't qualify for an article. Have you heard of Yavor Hristov?

I have nothing bad to say about you, just think this article is not so straight forward a delete. Cowdung Soup (talk) 18:37, 13 May 2018 (UTC)