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:You cannot edit the article [[Rick Mitry]] on Wikipedia because it has been deleted. What you link to is another website, not Wikipedia. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Sandstein|<span style="color:white;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Sandstein '''</span>]]</span></small> 05:33, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
:You cannot edit the article [[Rick Mitry]] on Wikipedia because it has been deleted. What you link to is another website, not Wikipedia. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Sandstein|<span style="color:white;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Sandstein '''</span>]]</span></small> 05:33, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

== Please explain this. It is not clear ==

I see that you have speedily deleted Kelly Sadler. I promise not to recreate it or make any kind of trouble. I ask that you answer the following questions to help me understand wikipedia.

Q1. Why is WP:ARBAP2 a reason for deletion. I have read it over and over and cannot see the reason for using it.

A1.

Q2. What is the reason for citing WP:BLPDELETE as the reason. WP:BLPDELETE says "Page deletion is normally a last resort....Summary deletion is appropriate when the page ...cannot readily be rewritten. To me it can be rewritten.

A2.

Q3. Why did you decide on an article that you already deleted instead of letting another administrator do it? It may seem that you feel so strongly about it that you want to approve your original decision. Is this intentional?

A3.

Your original reason is that it is contentious but the article was not written in an overly negative or overly positive tone.

Help me understand Wikipedia by explaining your actions by answering the 3 questions above. Thank you.

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In 2011, the above linked page was placed under indefinite protection. As you were intimately involved with the placing the consensus required notice, you are doubtless aware of the article's contentious history. As the gold padlock was placed so long ago, and as progress has stalled on the article, with only one substantive edit request having been made in the past six months, I wonder if it is not the time to discuss a gradual scaling back of protection.

How might I go about opening such a discussion? Where would be the appropriate forum to do so? I'm contacting you because you were an involved administrator, but if you aren't able to answer my question, where might I turn to receive an answer? I'm also leaving a similar message at User talk:Timotheus Canens, who was also involved in the controversy those many years ago. Thanks for your time. schetm (talk) 04:38, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You can either ask Timotheus Canens to unprotect it, or start a discussion at WP:RPP. Sandstein 11:04, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The last time Timotheus Canens was contacted, he said he wouldn't unprotect it as long as your restriction remained in effect (on the argument that 'consensus required' is effectively equivalent to full protection anyway) and directed anyone with requests to contact you. Given that the sandbox page and talk page have both been stable for the past few years, I think it's safe to remove your restriction at this point; the specific conflict that led to that restriction has long since died down, and it can now be safely covered by the standard discretionary sanctions for the general topic area (which, after all, are much more refined and better-enforced today than they were back in 2011.) --Aquillion (talk) 19:04, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
OK, done. Sandstein 21:47, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Sandstein,
Can you please clarify if you both are talking about "a gradual scaling back of protection" or you removed all restrictions completely, and the article can be edited in a standard way?
Paul Siebert (talk) 14:46, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
All existing restrictions are lifted. The page can be edited normally but remains subject to discretionary sanctions. Sandstein 17:03, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks.Paul Siebert (talk) 17:08, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think either of us can lift NuclearWarfare's 1RR/day from 2010, so I've restored the 1RR edit notice on the page. T. Canens (talk) 08:54, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Any administrator is welcome to lift that restriction at their discretion (though I would advise against it if we are just now removing full protection?). NW (Talk) 23:37, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Civility in infobox discussions: Motion

The Arbitration Committee has resolved by motion that:

Remedy 1.1 of the Civility in infobox discussions case is amended to replace dot point 3: *making more than one comment in discussing the inclusion or exclusion of an infobox on a given article. with the following: * making more than one comment in a discussion, where that discussion is primarily about the inclusion or exclusion of an infobox on a given article.

For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 17:54, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard#Civility in infobox discussions: Motion

What can I do so that my name is not deleted from wiki? I can delete my bio if that is the issue. that bio is taken from IMDB which was written by Endemol Shine America. I would love to get the banner taken away that my article is up for deletion because it looks bad. I won't add info or use this as a personal web page now that I am very clear on the rules. Can you help or suggest something I can do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikeaho (talkcontribs) 18:26, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You can comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Aho (2nd nomination) and discuss how you meet our inclusion criteria, WP:BIO. Sandstein 19:39, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Request to recreate deleted page

Sandstein, I would like to re-create Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2015 Rosh HaShanah death by stone-throwing, which caught my attention by recently coming back into the news cycle. (I have learned a great deal about editing over the past three years, and now create better pages and argue less.) Reasons are: 1.) You and several other editors suggested that it could be redirected to Palestinian stone-throwing#Deaths and casualties, but this merge was blocked by editors on that page by the creation of a rule limiting mentions of deaths caused by rock throwing to bluelinked pages. 2.) Ongoing coverage of this incident as the first killing in wave of violence that began in September/October 2015, and as one of the triggers for the Israeli decision to erect a security barrier between Jabel Mukaber and Armon Hanatziv, and, 3.)Perp (convicted,) turned out to have carried out a firebombing attack on Israeli target in 2014, and he has received ongoing press attention because he is one of a small group on a short list of Arab citizens of Israel drawing attention because of the new policy being pushed by Interior Minister Aryeh Deri to revoke the Israeli citizenship of convicted terrorists including this perp. Thank you for considering this.E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:34, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You can recreate a deleted article if you can address the problems that led to its deletion. You may want to try a stub at WP:AFC first. Sandstein 13:24, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Rick Mitry

Hi Sandstein!

You closed the discussion for the request for undeletion of this page. I am still new to this wikipedia stuff and still learning.

I wanted to change the article Rick Mitry and add significant new information. I tried previously to add it to the deleted article, but i did not have the permission to do so. Could you please advise me on what step to take.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chbeaini (talkcontribs) 01:09, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You cannot edit the article Rick Mitry on Wikipedia because it has been deleted. What you link to is another website, not Wikipedia. Sandstein 05:33, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain this. It is not clear

I see that you have speedily deleted Kelly Sadler. I promise not to recreate it or make any kind of trouble. I ask that you answer the following questions to help me understand wikipedia.

Q1. Why is WP:ARBAP2 a reason for deletion. I have read it over and over and cannot see the reason for using it.

A1.

Q2. What is the reason for citing WP:BLPDELETE as the reason. WP:BLPDELETE says "Page deletion is normally a last resort....Summary deletion is appropriate when the page ...cannot readily be rewritten. To me it can be rewritten.

A2.

Q3. Why did you decide on an article that you already deleted instead of letting another administrator do it? It may seem that you feel so strongly about it that you want to approve your original decision. Is this intentional?

A3.

Your original reason is that it is contentious but the article was not written in an overly negative or overly positive tone.

Help me understand Wikipedia by explaining your actions by answering the 3 questions above. Thank you.