User talk:Innisfree987

Owing to off-line circumstances, I will be on Wikipedia only intermittently for the near-term. My apologies if I am slow to respond to your message. I appreciate your understanding.

Whose Streets?

Dear Innisfree987, Thanks for the format corrections (always welcome) on the article for the "Whose Streets" documentary, but please undo your heavy-handed removal of others' sensible contributions to the article. To show the documentary's universal acclaim, you can simply add additional positive film review quotes and sources. Also, you added grammatically incorrect material which you may want to correct at the same time (e.g. "universally-positive" is not a hyphenated phrase). Putting the material back in that you removed and adding new material to reflect the "due weight" balance you seek would be preferable to my reverting your edits. Thanks. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Whose_Streets%3F&diff=next&oldid=819370888 ... Christian B Martin (talk) 08:33, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Christian B Martin, as this pertains to the substance of an entry, I'll copy your message (or you can, if you like) to the talk page and reply there so that anyone interested in the entry may contribute to the discussion. Innisfree987 (talk) 15:58, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Reciprocal altruism in humans

Hi you recently passed this draft - two of the citations were to Wikipedia articles. They were easy to miss because the sources were not clearly cited but WP:WPCLEANER spotted them. I've cleaned it up but you might find this tool helpful when reviewing future drafts. SeraphWiki (talk) 23:07, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the WP:WPCLEANER tip, and for your work on the entry, SeraphWiki! Innisfree987 (talk) 23:13, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Feburary 2018 at Women in Red

		Welcome to Women in Red's February 2018 worldwide online editathons. New: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/67|"Black women"]] New: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/68|"Mathematicians and statisticians"]] New: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/69|"Geofocus: Island women"]] Continuing: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/00|#1day1woman Global Initiative]]
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Ijeoma Oluo has been nominated for Did You Know

Hello, Innisfree987. Ijeoma Oluo, an article you either created or to which you significantly contributed,has been nominated to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the hook and the discussion here. You are welcome to participate! Thank you. APersonBot (talk!) 12:05, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

thank you for the welcome! <3

Pastelpencilcase (talk) 20:53, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, Pastelpencilcase! Welcome and please do feel free to reach out if there's anything I can help with! Happy editing! Innisfree987 (talk) 18:10, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Women's History Month 2018 at Women in Red

		Welcome to Women in Red's March 2018 worldwide online editathons. Historically, our March event has been one of the biggest offerings of the year. This year, we are collaborating with two other wiki communities. Our article campaign is the official on-line/virtual node for Art+Feminism. Our image campaign supports the Whose Knowledge? initiative. [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/70|Women's History Month 2018]] Continuing: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/00|#1day1woman Global Initiative]]
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Nomination of Sex Object: A Memoir for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Sex Object: A Memoir is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sex Object: A Memoir until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. damiens.rf 10:41, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Ijeoma Oluo

On 24 February 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ijeoma Oluo, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after the shooting of Trayvon Martin, Seattle author Ijeoma Oluo started writing about her social concerns on a blog that she had previously devoted to food? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ijeoma Oluo. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ijeoma Oluo), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Wet (band)

stop changing the wet page!!!! marty left the group and their new song IS a new cover, if you follow them on instagram kelly and joe said it’s a cover Wtf700 (talk) 19:22, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi there and thanks for your message. We're all eager to make Wikipedia as accurate as possible, so all reliably sourced info is very welcome: you just need to add a source beyond your personal information (Wikipedia doesn't have fact-checkers so instead, to make sure the material added is reliable as possible, we require the information be cited to a public, reliable source that any reader could check themselves. This is particularly important for information concerning living people, like who is or isn't a member of a band.) Ideally this would be a reliable secondary source (e.g. from the music press), but in this case a social media post from the band probably suffices. If you're not sure how to add a reference to Wikipedia, here's an introduction; or you can post any relevant links to the band's talk page where I will surely see it and be glad to help you add it (if another editor doesn't beat me to it).

I hope you'll stick around to contribute reliably sourced material to the encyclopedia; to that end, I want to let you know that your current username probably bumps up against policy, so to continue contributing, changing that is a good idea. You can do so here, or just make a new account (not much history lost, since this is your first edit with this account).

Hope all that helps a bit in explaining how the encyclopedia works; please let me know if you have any other questions I can help with. Happy editing, Innisfree987 (talk) 19:43, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Nominator withdrawl

Generally it is best to let the nominator withdraw their own nomination, rather than suggesting to them that they do so. Just an observation. Cheers --‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ^ᐐT₳LKᐬ 14:24, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Hey El Cid, thanks for reaching out--I really appreciate hearing your input (also much appreciate your cordiality!) If you have the time: might you be willing to elaborate on why you view this as best (or just point me toward the policy/etc. you're thinking of)? I do try to be stickler for the spirit as well as letter of these things (by chance this week I had to ask someone, contra my own keep ivote, to reopen an AFD ineligible for such a close; on this entry, I also concluded that to avoid canvassing, I could not reach out to the entry's creator with advice while the AfD was still ongoing, even though they are a brand-new student user and clearly could use more help.) It's not obvious to me, though, why it would be out of process for an editor to suggest a nomination be withdrawn. Reviewing WP:SNOW when I made the request made me feel solid community consensus was behind the preference for not wasting editor time when outcomes are clear; and ultimately saying how we think the AfD should be closed is what we're all there to do, no?

FWIW, the nom's responsiveness also ended up making a difference to me as a show of good faith. The nominator is an editor with some paid contributions and some difficulties (see the last section on that diff) about their involvement in maintenance tasks in a way that at least one other editor felt wasted volunteers' time; when I look a little further, I saw they have created at least one cosmetics entry yet nominated this one for deletion in what was really quite a misplaced way (I have been able to develop the entry so easily, I might take it to GA). This caused me some concern, and it was reassuring to see the editor rectify the situation promptly when I brought to their attention that this was also wasting community time. So I was glad I addressed it, actually. Same was true, though on a less pressing level, the only other time I've made this request (I reviewed all my AfD keep ivotes pursuant to your note)--it was a good way to straighten out that a bad nom was an honest mistake. The other person also accepted my suggestion, but they equally could have explained why they stood by it--either way it felt well within AfD process of being obliged to make your case, and rather akin to saying something should never have been nominated in the first place (which people say all the time because...bad nominations happen all the time!)

I could def be overlooking something and just hearing you have objections certainly will mean I think twice about it, but if you have anything to add so I can understand better, I'd be glad to hear it. Thanks again for bringing this to me. Innisfree987 (talk) 23:25, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

April 2018 at Women in Red

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DYK for Susan O'Malley

On 30 March 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Susan O'Malley, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Susan O'Malley was the first female president of an NBA franchise? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Susan O'Malley. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Susan O'Malley), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

April 2018

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Jessica Valenti. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

• If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, please discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively, you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant notice boards.
• If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, please seek assistance at Wikipedia's Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.

Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continual disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. 2601:1C0:7000:8405:B039:2F94:8BA4:A455 (talk) 20:34, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

I understand you disagree with my removal, 2601:1C0:7000:8405:B039:2F94:8BA4:A455; at the same time, I have explained my policy reasoning for it, and four other editors have joined me in that; you have now reverted five times (1 2, 3, 4, 5), violating WP:3RR. I appreciate your joining the talk page discussion and I really hope that you will please continue to participate there to seek consensus about the material per Wikipedia policy, rather than continue to insert contested material unilaterally; this is considered disruptive to WP process and will almost certainly lead to a block. I hope instead you will participate constructively with us on the talk page so we may have your continued input. Innisfree987 (talk) 21:18, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

April 2018 (2)

		The Original Barnstar
		Thank you for your contributions for Fenty Beauty MarsLovesDogs (talk) 15:28, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Talkpage

Hi, Sorry about the revert, Unfortunately many vandals blank talkpages and seeing that amount of content removed it's easy to automatically assume "another vandal" .... so sorry about that,
Could I ask in future that you actually explain your edits as again I thought "request" was just a random word I hadn't realised you were responding to a request - It's up to you but the more descriptive your edit summaries are the less likely you'll be reverted :),
Anyway sorry for the revert, Happy editing :), –Davey2010^Talk 23:08, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Agree completely Davey2010, and was actually just starting a message on your page to apologize because clearly the inclarity of that edit summary was what prompted the difficulty! Very sorry--honestly just had a brain freeze in terms of "Uh what exactly would be a concise explanation of what happened here?!" and wanted to get it saved quickly as I'd already missed the opportunity to do a simple revert because of an intervening MusikBot edit. Wrong call, I'll take more time next time, if that's what it takes to be clearer about what's happened! Innisfree987 (talk) 23:17, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

No worries, Haha it's annoying when that happens :P, Anyway no worries, Happy editing :), –Davey2010^Talk 23:29, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Infobox image RfC

Because you have commented previously at other image RfCs, letting you know there's another one you might be interested in looking at here. Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 21:12, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Becky DYK

Hi, what are your thoughts on the UNDUE issue over at Dave Becky at this moment? StewdioMACK (talk) 16:27, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks StewdioMACK, just writing you a note on that very subject! I'll post at Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Dave_Becky shortly so we can have input from the others who've participated as well. Just wanted to do as much as I could to address the issue in the entry itself before I replied. Innisfree987 (talk) 16:30, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks very much. StewdioMACK (talk) 16:33, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Jamil Smith (journalist)

Hello! Your submission of Jamil Smith (journalist) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! SoWhy 18:29, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Fenty Beauty

On 20 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fenty Beauty, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that singer Rihanna's Fenty Beauty cosmetics line was named one of Time magazine's best inventions of 2017? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fenty Beauty. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Fenty Beauty), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

May 2018 at Women in Red

		Welcome to Women in Red's May 2018 worldwide online editathons. File:Soraya Aghaee4.jpg New: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/75|"Women of the Sea"]] New: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/76|"Villains"]] New: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/77|"Women in Sports"]] New: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/78|"Central Eastern European women"]] Continuing: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/00|#1day1woman Global Initiative]]
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DYK for Jason Reynolds

On 1 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jason Reynolds, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that National Book Award finalist Jason Reynolds was inspired by Queen Latifah to begin writing poetry when he was nine years old? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jason Reynolds. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Jason Reynolds), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Wanda W.

Thank you for your help, past midnight here, so little more from me. The discogs link in the external refs is best for recordings, and the Dutch one but has multiples. Refs for the awards were good ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Excellent, thank you Gerda Arendt. I shall do my best--while also recognizing this is well out of my depth so if when you return to the article, you find I've added references that are no help, please don't hesitate to remove them, I won't have my feelings hurt in the least. I'm finding it very interesting to read about her fascinating and tremendously impressive life, so I'm grateful you've brought the entry to my attention and hope I can help any amount! Innisfree987 (talk) 22:27, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Ann Hornaday

On 6 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ann Hornaday, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Pulitzer Prize-nominated film critic Ann Hornaday was once an assistant to Gloria Steinem? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ann Hornaday. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ann Hornaday), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Adrian Miller

On 8 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Adrian Miller, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that before becoming a food historian, James Beard Award-winner Adrian Miller was a White House adviser in the Clinton Administration? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Adrian Miller. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Adrian Miller), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:01, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Jamil Smith (journalist)

Innisfree987, last call for you to respond to the review made over four weeks ago, on April 18. (You were pinged about it back then.) Please post to the DYK review page linked to just above within the next few days if you wish to continue pursuing the nomination. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:15, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Class DYK daisychain

I have tried to focus on this a few times to make folks at DYK aware but I keep getting distracted and this is just so stepping-in-doghshitty, but here you go:

There is not WikiEd class but the teacher is Prof Haeffel

• Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Intuitive_eating by Cgorman4
• Template:Did you know nominations/subcortical ischemic depression nominated by Annaleisg and "approved" by Cgorman4, overrruled by BlueMoonset
• Template:Did you know nominations/Cyclothymia nominated by Emcmanus1 and again "approved" by Cgorman4, overrruled overruled by BlueMoonset again
• Template:Did you know nominations/Secondary Mania nominated by Bwilli18 and "approved" by Annaleisg, overruled by BlueMoonset again
• Template:Did you know nominations/Unconscious bias training nominated by Brittanygrimes3 - subsequent review was legit
• Template:Did you know nominations/Double depression nominated by Dmaynd2019 never has been processed
• Template:Did you know nominations/Euthymia (medicine) nominated by Logan McAbee-Thomas - subsequent review was legit

I think that is everybody and i think you all caught everything. When I looked last all the overruling hadn't happened and i am glad it did. Jytdog (talk) 01:36, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Yeesh that is really an issue. Thanks for looping me in Jytdog. I'll follow up, including with someone at WikiEd; even if this isn't an officially registered course, it feels like it's reasonable to expect them to offer assistance, given their general promotion of classroom editing of Wikipedia. Innisfree987 (talk) 01:39, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your reasonable input here and at the AfD, and for all the work you do! Jytdog (talk) 01:40, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

I had a discussion offline with Ian from WikiED btw; did not mention this DYK thing. Jytdog (talk) 01:41, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Hey, thank you for the kind words and all this legwork! It really is quite a tangle to unwind... Will keep you posted, hopefully to report making some headway. Innisfree987 (talk) 02:10, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Re:Class DYK daisychain

Hi, thank you for your message. Yes, I am aware of the 3 instances of canvassing for DYK. This matter was taken very seriously and wrongdoing was discussed with the students. Thank you for your attention to this matter. And yes, I have also been in contact with the WikiEd people. Obviously we will continue to improve as we become more familiar with all of the wikipedia rules. Having done this for about 5 or 6 years, it does appear that students have become more of an easy "target" for criticism recently (likely given the larger number of students contributing to wikipedia because of the different educational initiatives). I'm not saying that students and new wikipedia editors are not making mistakes and that it is not annoying to veteran editors; but, I think it's important to make sure that the rules aren't used as a method of exclusion. I have edited pages under a different username and also have seen students do the same, and anecdotally, there is far less scrutiny in these situations. I just hope we are not holding students to a higher standard than a general community member because they are easy to identify in a class setting and may hold biases against them (e.g., only motivated by grades, etc.). I would suspect that the extremely small fraction (relative to the population) of volunteer editors are a rather homogenous group. College students may provide more diversity (though likely not as much as is needed) to the group of editors. Plus, students tend to have an advantage over the general community member because they tend to have higher IQs on average, are better writers, and have access to scholarly journals (which essentially no regular person has). Plus, they are the future of wikipedia so I hope that they can be taught the rules, but also want to continue to participate in editing. Thank you again for pointing out the canvasing issue and we will try to ensure that does not happen again. Prof Haeffel (talk) 14:50, 18 May 2018 (UTC)