Talk:Fulton surface-to-air recovery system

7 g acceleration claim

The article seems to claim that a pickup at 130m and 200km/h caused an acceleration of 7 g's, but that is physically impossible. Under these parameters the initial acceleration would be only 2.4g even if the cable was completely inelastic. --Tennenrishin (talk) 10:36, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

On inspection, the citation provided does not make such a claim in the first place. There is mention of 7 g's during a 1943 test of a completely different system with different operating parameters. So I'm removing the incorrect claim from the article. --Tennenrishin (talk) 12:58, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

In popular media

I noticed this (or a system like it) is featured in the film Barely Lethal and the video game Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain — Preceding unsigned comment added by VTNC (talk • contribs) 21:02, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Not just Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain, But the earlier title of "Peace Walker" and "Portable Ops" from the PSP 86.142.53.231 (talk) 21:24, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

We don't just arbitrarily list every game, book, or movie something has been featured of mentioned in. Please read and follow WP:MILPOP guidelines for adding pop culture references. - BilCat (talk) 06:36, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Strange, seeing how WP primarily focuses on popular culture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.253.74.52 (talk) 08:57, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Well, the Fulton device plays a major role in the aforementioned games, and such importance is clear in every major review of both games. It fits the criteria. DeABREU (talk) 00:48, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

I feel that to be in-line with Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Academy/Pop culture and our position on it, you need to have at least one reliable source. For example, I was the one who added The Dark Knight to the popular culture page. I not only cited the movie (twice actually, once when the system was first mentioned and again when it is actually used), but an article about the use of the system in the movie. At the moment, Thunderball and Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain do not have any references about the systems use. I added the Template:Citation Needed to both of them to stress this point. Elisfkc (talk) 13:30, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

194.75.8.152, 86.195.12.218, DeABREU, and VTNC, since the amount of time to fix problems on Wikipedia seems to usually be one week, and I posted the last comment and the Citation needed templates on October 30, I am letting you know that Thunderball and Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain may be deleted on or any time after November 6 if they still do not have a reliable source. Since it was used previously, I'll remind you that another Wikipedia article does not count as a reliable source in this situation. Elisfkc (talk) 18:54, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

• Please note that a source confirming a subject's usage in a given medium is not enough - the source must address the subject's significance, which is something primary usually can't do. Per WP:POPCULTURE#Content:

Although some references may be plainly verified by primary sources, this does not demonstrate the significance of the reference. Furthermore, when the primary source in question only presents the reference, interpretation of this may constitute original research where the reference itself is ambiguous. If a cultural reference is genuinely significant it should be possible to find a reliable secondary source that supports that judgment. Quoting a respected expert attesting to the importance of a subject as a cultural influence is encouraged. Absence of these secondary sources should be seen as a sign of limited significance, not an invitation to draw inference from primary sources. (Emphasis mine.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by BilCat (talk • contribs) 15:54, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. Elisfkc (talk) 20:01, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

The presence of the fulton recovery system in Metal Gear Solid 5 is pretty obviously noteworthy, and there are several citeable sources discussing it (e.g. http://warisboring.com/articles/the-true-story-of-metal-gear-solids-fulton-recovery-system/). Looking at the page revision history, it seems like there is an ongoing edit war over this issue. --205.175.229.97 (talk) 23:23, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

So far, no one has provided a reliable source with their edits on the article, as far as I've seen/undone. The only source cited was another wiki. Elisfkc (talk) 23:29, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

I have added a short reference to the game, citing the source that I posted here. --205.175.229.97 (talk) 02:27, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

This system appears at the end of an episode of "The Unit" and its use and functionality in the show are accurate. I think that this deserves a mention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doggonemess (talk • contribs) 13:07, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Have you read this section completely? "If a cultural reference is genuinely significant it should be possible to find a reliable secondary source that supports that judgment." - BilCat (talk) 14:26, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Missionary Pickup system

By flying a small plane in a tight circle, a line can be dropped to the ground, to deliver and pickup items. See:- http://www.1timothy4-13.com/files/facts/helicopter.html 86.168.58.71 (talk) 00:38, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Also Nate Saint and Mission Aviation Fellowship 86.168.58.71 (talk) 00:49, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

http://postalmuseum.si.edu/exhibits/current/airmail-in-america/the-airplanes/stinson-reliant.html 86.168.58.71 (talk) 00:54, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Almost a decade later...

Someone noticed back in 2006 that large blocks are verbatim copies from the cia.gov source. I'll have some time in a few days to help, but if anyone has time sooner, please feel free. Cheers, Older and ... well older (talk) 00:47, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker

@Filas312: Per WP:MILPOP, you need a number of references that prove that this game's usage of this tech is notable. Elisfkc (talk) 20:19, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

The picture in "Development" should be the lede

I think the picture in the "development" section is the most illustrative picture. The article would be much more interesting with that picture at the top of the page. The current header photos are misleading, because they don't tell you anything about picking up people! I assumed the article was about catching the film from spy satellites because of the lede photos!

The problem is I can't figure out a way to do that without majorly changing the look, does anybody have any suggestions? Ninjalectual (talk) 06:06, 19 May 2018 (UTC)