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Furthermore, [[WP:Head]] clearly states "Headings should not refer redundantly to the subject of the article (Early life, not Smith's early life or His early life)". This is also the case here. I've '''only''' preceded to edit [[Solomon]] and [[Abraham]], so stop the false reversion and denial of the obvious. [[User:AlHazen|AlHazen]] ([[User talk:AlHazen#top|talk]]) 14:29, 3 June 2018 (UTC) |
Furthermore, [[WP:Head]] clearly states "Headings should not refer redundantly to the subject of the article (Early life, not Smith's early life or His early life)". This is also the case here. I've '''only''' preceded to edit [[Solomon]] and [[Abraham]], so stop the false reversion and denial of the obvious. [[User:AlHazen|AlHazen]] ([[User talk:AlHazen#top|talk]]) 14:29, 3 June 2018 (UTC) |
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::You are misunderstanding what [[WP:Head]] means - it says you should not use eg "Cultural references to Abraham", repeating the title. That has no relevance here. Many of these sections include both uses in high culture AND popular culture, which is exactly why it is inaccurate to use either "In popular culture" or "In high culture" as headings. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 18:53, 3 June 2018 (UTC) |
::You are misunderstanding what [[WP:Head]] means - it says you should not use eg "Cultural references to Abraham", repeating the title. That has no relevance here. Many of these sections include both uses in high culture AND popular culture, which is exactly why it is inaccurate to use either "In popular culture" or "In high culture" as headings. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 18:53, 3 June 2018 (UTC) |
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:::Agree with Johnbod, edits like [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Jesus&diff=prev&oldid=844159873] are a very bad idea. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 08:12, 4 June 2018 (UTC) |
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The reason I moved that information from Legacy to Career, is because is vague: "Usher has ... number ones on this component chart". Reaching is legacy, that section is not all about overkilling with chart information. For a good example, check Lady Gaga#Legacy. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 03:08, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- Khaire Nuh For the same section, to explain my last edits. This is from the website you used as source:
"This sound has been gestating for at least a decade -- look no further than Ghost Town DJs' 1996 "My Boo," Aaliyah's 1998 "Are You That Somebody?" or Destiny's Child's 1999 "Jumpin Jumpin," for proof. But it began coagulating in 2004, when Lil' Jon coined the term, describing the beats he made for Usher's "Yeah," and Ciara's 2004 debut, Goodies, as "Crunk & B, R&B songs that get you crunk, make you wanna wild out." (Lil' Jon is currently working on his new album and, citing prior studio engagement, declined to be interviewed for this piece."
What you wrote: ""Yeah!" was the first track to introduce the substyle of crunk..." Either way, this is Lil' Jon's legacy, as he's the one credited for the beat (the source is clearly focusing in his work). By the way, I don't get all the trivia of "number x on some list of best duets", seem fillers. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 07:30, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
In responce to Cornerstonepicker: I understand your changes. I directly obtained it from Ciara's Legacy section [1] which stated that "Both "Yeah!" and "Goodies" were the first tracks to introduce the substyle of crunk music and contemporary R&B, called crunk&B, to the public" using that source and didn't look into it. If the information is inaccurate you may want to check that page as well.
As for the "number x on some list of best duets", I am not responsible for this information, and agree that a ranking of a duet isn't specifically complimentary to Usher as an individual. Khaire Nuh (talk) 21:03, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
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The reason I added these artist because they have collaborated with Usher on multiple occasions. (seen definition of associated act) Jay-Z has collaborated on three songs (Hot Toddy, Best Things, Anything. Alicia Keys has collaborated twice (My Boo, If I Ain't Got U Remix) Ludacris has collaborated four times (Yeah, Rest of My Life, Lovers & Friends, She Don't Know) Jermaine Dupri is notable to Usher's career regarding production like Pharrell and Sean Combs
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Hello. "ChartMasters" is an unreliable source, please remove it from the articles you have added it. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 19:34, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
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Please, stop your unhelpful edits on Usher (singer)'s section "Legacy". It is not hard to see there isn't a correct order and distribution. WP:ATTRIBUTION is also important. "Grammy Awards" is present Four Times in the lead section. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 17:27, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
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Unfortunately, that does not count as a consensus, just with one person having a vendetta with another Wikipedian, however since the article was created numerous comments have always come up with putting R&B first, if you feel the need please discuss at the articles talk page with your proposed genre. Calihill (talk) 22:12, 5 February 2017 (UTC) (MariaJaydHicky sock)
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Brevity is one thing, but accuracy is more important!
Please stop these inappropriate edits, which do not reflect the contents of the sections. Saving 3 or 4 letters, so what? Johnbod (talk) 01:34, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- You also managed to add 2 grammatical errors in the last one! Johnbod (talk) 01:37, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- Which edits "do not reflect" their section exactly? What's "inappropriate"? I have no interest in sacrificing accuracy for brevity, nor should you revert all edits in a panic like manner (if it's 3 or 4 letters). Brevity, and hence concision are better than overly elaborate descriptions for headers; that's the whole point. E.g:
In literature, art, and music
Literature
Film
Music
Video games
It's only more "accurate" when you've reinstated half of the sub-headers themselves. This is redundancy, when one word can clearly encapsulate them. I would've corrected errors, if only i could reflect back, before your reversion.
I'm going to reassess those worthy of brevity. AlHazen (talk) 02:12, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- Most of the stuff you called popular culture is not - it is high culture. Which edits "do not reflect" their section exactly? - all the ones I reverted. Just stop doing this please if you can't tell the difference. Johnbod (talk) 02:25, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, but you're not going to get away with a false case. It is definitely popular culture over high culture, because it a) does not only concern visual arts (Music) and b) appeals to the wider masses (Video games)
In the arts
Painting and sculpture
Abraham in Christian iconography
Literature
Music
Furthermore, WP:Head clearly states "Headings should not refer redundantly to the subject of the article (Early life, not Smith's early life or His early life)". This is also the case here. I've only preceded to edit Solomon and Abraham, so stop the false reversion and denial of the obvious. AlHazen (talk) 14:29, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- You are misunderstanding what WP:Head means - it says you should not use eg "Cultural references to Abraham", repeating the title. That has no relevance here. Many of these sections include both uses in high culture AND popular culture, which is exactly why it is inaccurate to use either "In popular culture" or "In high culture" as headings. Johnbod (talk) 18:53, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- Agree with Johnbod, edits like [2] are a very bad idea. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:12, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- You are misunderstanding what WP:Head means - it says you should not use eg "Cultural references to Abraham", repeating the title. That has no relevance here. Many of these sections include both uses in high culture AND popular culture, which is exactly why it is inaccurate to use either "In popular culture" or "In high culture" as headings. Johnbod (talk) 18:53, 3 June 2018 (UTC)