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:*{{ping|Ammarpad}} I don't see how your misinformed opinion has to do with this being news. The new government still has to be approved by an elected parliament, and can be also be dismissed by it. In any case it is still noteworthy as the protests are still ongoing. [[User:Makeandtoss|Makeandtoss]] ([[User talk:Makeandtoss|talk]]) 13:04, 4 June 2018 (UTC) |
:*{{ping|Ammarpad}} I don't see how your misinformed opinion has to do with this being news. The new government still has to be approved by an elected parliament, and can be also be dismissed by it. In any case it is still noteworthy as the protests are still ongoing. [[User:Makeandtoss|Makeandtoss]] ([[User talk:Makeandtoss|talk]]) 13:04, 4 June 2018 (UTC) |
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*'''Conditional Support''' symbolic or not, this is still a head of government of a sovereign state. The new PM can use a few thousand bytes of prose though. [[User:Juxlos|Juxlos]] ([[User talk:Juxlos|talk]]) 14:50, 4 June 2018 (UTC) |
*'''Conditional Support''' symbolic or not, this is still a head of government of a sovereign state. The new PM can use a few thousand bytes of prose though. [[User:Juxlos|Juxlos]] ([[User talk:Juxlos|talk]]) 14:50, 4 June 2018 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' Jordan has been one of the quietest country in the Middle east so news coming out on government level is significant. Probably a signal that things are about to change for worst. Jordan is right smack in the middle of Middle east which is on fire so is on the news daily for quite a while. Its neighbor Syria and Saudi Arabia are in the middle of multiple crisis and wars. [[Special:Contributions/45.116.232.57|45.116.232.57]] ([[User talk:45.116.232.57|talk]]) 20:53, 4 June 2018 (UTC) |
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Slovenian parliamentary election, 2018
Blurb: In the Slovenian parliamentary election the Slovenian Democratic Party wins the most seats. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:
- Nominated by LukeSurl (talk · give credit)
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: 99.9% of votes counted now. 10 different parties got seats in a PR system, so it's hard to declare a "winner" and the government formation (and new PM) might take a while. Article looks fairly good for the campaign coverage, just needs a bit of post-election stuff and a bit of a tidy in the tables. LukeSurl t c 11:13, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Comment The results of general elections in all states on List of sovereign states are WP:ITNR. I changed it. TompaDompa (talk) 13:02, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- I'd like to see some reactions other than "Government formation" section and there is a tag in the candidates list section. I'll try to add more. We can include the president of the winning party in the blurb. --Tone 20:19, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Omar Razzaz becomes Prime Minister of Jordan
Blurb: Omar Razzaz becomes Prime Minister of Jordan after his predecessor resigns following widespread protests in Jordan against austerity measures. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera
Credits:
- Nominated by LukeSurl (talk · give credit)
Nominator's comments: News just breaking. Article isn't great. There doesn't seem to be a current article for his successor Omar al-Razza. LukeSurl t c 11:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- (edits made by Makeandtoss to the template have made my comment there somewhat redundant) --LukeSurl t c 12:58, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Symbolic non-executive official appointed by king at will, and can be dismissed as such. (Also Cf. #Premier of Pakistan changed) down below. –Ammarpad (talk) 12:50, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Ammarpad: I don't see how your misinformed opinion has to do with this being news. The new government still has to be approved by an elected parliament, and can be also be dismissed by it. In any case it is still noteworthy as the protests are still ongoing. Makeandtoss (talk) 13:04, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Conditional Support symbolic or not, this is still a head of government of a sovereign state. The new PM can use a few thousand bytes of prose though. Juxlos (talk) 14:50, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support Jordan has been one of the quietest country in the Middle east so news coming out on government level is significant. Probably a signal that things are about to change for worst. Jordan is right smack in the middle of Middle east which is on fire so is on the news daily for quite a while. Its neighbor Syria and Saudi Arabia are in the middle of multiple crisis and wars. 45.116.232.57 (talk) 20:53, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
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RD: Mustapha Akanbi
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:
- Nominated by LukeSurl (talk · give credit)
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Nominator's comments: Nigerian jurist, head of the Independent Corrupt Practices Commission. Article appears to be OK. LukeSurl t c 08:11, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
(Posted) Volcán de Fuego eruption
Blurb: In Guatemala, Volcán de Fuego erupts, killing 7 people and forcing the closure of the La Aurora International Airport. (Post)
Alternative blurb: In Guatemala, Volcán de Fuego erupts, killing 38 people.
Alternative blurb II: Twenty-five people have been killed and hundreds injured in the most violent eruption in decades in Guatemala.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:
- Nominated by EternalNomad (talk · give credit)
- Updated by GWA88 (talk · give credit)
Nominator's comments: First deadly volcano eruption in 2 years. EternalNomad (talk) 01:28, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support. Would suggest bolding Volcán de Fuego, and giving updater credit to GWA88. Someone should also stay on top of the death toll, as the lava flow is currently headed towards a small town. (NorthernFalcon (talk) 01:31, 4 June 2018 (UTC))
- Oppose for now. There's almost no prose about this eruption beyond a single sentence in a table, which imparts little more information than the blurb itself does. Would expect at least a paragraph, if not more, on this eruption, written in the main body of the article. --Jayron32 01:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Comment I was originally going to state that I did not think the volcano's article merited more detail on this eruption than was currently listed, but as we're now up to 25 deaths, I'd say this eruption merits its own article and we ought to consider bolding that once it's been done. (NorthernFalcon (talk) 06:17, 4 June 2018 (UTC))
- Comment Just started a separate article on the eruption at 2018 Volcán de Fuego eruption. Will work on expanding it. SounderBruce 06:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Comment I was originally going to state that I did not think the volcano's article merited more detail on this eruption than was currently listed, but as we're now up to 25 deaths, I'd say this eruption merits its own article and we ought to consider bolding that once it's been done. (NorthernFalcon (talk) 06:17, 4 June 2018 (UTC))
- Comment ALT blurb added. Pinging EternalNomad, NorthernFalcon, Jayron32 and SounderBruce. Mjroots (talk) 07:15, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Comment - Changed article target. Sherenk1 (talk) 08:06, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support. The article for it is borderline decent, and certainly will be more updated by tomorrow. It is extremely rare for volcanoes to kill 25 people. Alex of Canada (talk) 08:16, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support - clearly a notable event. 2018 Volcán de Fuego eruption is short, but doesn't appear to have anything wrong with it. The {{current disaster}} template explains to readers that this is a developing article and will expand as more information becomes available. I think we can post now and trust editors to work on the article as details emerge. --LukeSurl t c 08:44, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose target article is barely a stub. Volcano article not suitably updated to be bold link. This isn't "important" it's not a race to post yet another disaster stub asap. It's in the news, will support when the article is better. --LaserLegs (talk) 08:50, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support alt1 on significance, but the article needs some serious expansion first. Modest Genius talk 10:14, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support in principle – Prefer alt1, but article needs work. (Verbs should be shifted to past tense as article is updated.) Sca (talk) 13:15, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Conditional Support of 2nd Blurb article needs work, but after some work should be posted. Awestruck1 (talk) 14:52 4 June 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.74.130.2 (talk)
- Support alt1 when article is ready. Lepricavark (talk) 15:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- I believe this is ready to post now. The article contains almost all the information that is known so far. --LukeSurl t c 15:42, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Comment I just changed the alt blurb to 38 deaths, as the death toll was recently revised. The eruption article had already been updated. (NorthernFalcon (talk) 15:53, 4 June 2018 (UTC))
- Support Clearly notable, articles are sufficient. Davey2116 (talk) 15:58, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support Standalong article for altblurb looks good (short but sufficiently sourced and details at this time), and clearly significant. --Masem (t) 16:04, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Posted alt 1 blurb. 331dot (talk) 16:18, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Really? Several CN tags (I bothered to check refs) in this pitifully short article ought make it ineligible. Why the rush to post disaster articles anyway? --LaserLegs (talk) 16:29, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Comment I think part of the issue is that the sources are themselves changing as more information becomes available. I'll see what I can do to clean up the tags. (NorthernFalcon (talk) 16:35, 4 June 2018 (UTC))
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RD: Joe Berinson
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Obit
Credits:
- Nominated by LukeSurl (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Australian politician. Article seems adequate. LukeSurl t c 08:16, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose While a little more fleshed out compared to the nomination below, articles of politicians need to be more than a prose list of the positions occupied to merit an RD posting imo. The article needs to have information on what the subject did while in that position, notable policy changes, issues that the subject advocated for, major controversies, etc. SpencerT•C 13:20, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
RD: Álvaro Lapuerta
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2] (Spanish)
Credits:
- Nominated by LukeSurl (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Spanish politician. Article seems adequately referenced, though it is perhaps only just above stub-length. LukeSurl t c 08:19, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support Looks OK. –Ammarpad (talk) 12:58, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Virtually no description of what he did during his political career; the article insufficiently covers the subject to merit RD posting. SpencerT•C 13:16, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose It's too short - still a stub in my view.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 18:25, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
RD: Nick Meglin
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:
- Nominated by LukeSurl (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: American magazine editor. Article is probably just over stub size. LukeSurl t c 08:24, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Needs more reference and content. –Ammarpad (talk) 13:16, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
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RD: John Julius Norwich
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Daily Telegraph
Credits:
- Nominated by Presidentman (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Rcb1 (talk · give credit) and OpenToppedBus (talk · give credit)
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Nominator's comments: Norwich was a well-known historian who authored multiple books and hosted many television documentaries Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 19:01, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose flagrant abuse of fair use image. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:49, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- The image has now been removed. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 23:04, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Lots of CN tags, many primary sources. Nixinova T C 02:28, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
(Closed) U.S.-North Korea summit
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Blurb: U.S. President Donald Trump announces that the North Korea-United States summit has been reinstated for June 12, 2018. (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:
- Nominated by WaltCip (talk · give credit)
Article updated
- I'm all for posting it if and when it actually happens. —Cryptic 19:01, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- I think at this point we should wait until the two men actually shake hands. Trump could change his mind in an hour. 331dot (talk) 19:04, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Oppose wait for it to happen. The summit may be important news, the soap opera of scheduling it is not. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:04, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose. If it happens it might merit posting, but it certainly doesn't before then. Thryduulf (talk) 19:16, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose post it if it happens. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:17, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose considering that the original announcement for this date almost a month ago was not nominated nor posted, it would be very hypocritical to post the reinstatement on ITN, we’re better off just posting this event on ITN when the actual event occurs, as it’s just over a week away. SamaranEmerald (talk) 19:18, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose I was wrong for supporting the nomination announcing the cancellation of this summit. Who the hell knows whether or not it will happen. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:23, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Let's see if it actually happens first.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 19:30, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose per consensus from the "cancelled" nomination. It is clear that when (if) this happens, that will be ITN, and editors can prep that article now for it, but the waffling here is just political saber rattling. --Masem (t) 19:32, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Until it happens. Then it'll be the turning point of a career, in Korea, being insincere. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 19:35, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Wait until it actually happens. Nixinova T C 20:29, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose It's all just propaganda. two narcissistic synchophants massaging each other. If it really happens and something encyclopaedically noteworthy happens, we can revisit later. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:42, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
(Posted) Spanish prime minister
Blurb: Pedro Sánchez becomes Prime Minister of Spain after Mariano Rajoy loses a vote of no confidence. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Pedro Sánchez becomes Prime Minister of Spain after Mariano Rajoy loses a vote of no confidence.
News source(s): BBC, Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by KTC (talk · give credit)
KTC (talk) 10:00, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Gürtel case is the article about the scandal which has caused this. --LukeSurl t c 10:45, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I'd like to see a more substantial update (i.e. a paragraph, not two sentences) in both articles. It might be worth adding the Gürtel case to the blurb as a cause of the vote - in a similar way that Najib Razak lost the Malaysian general election, 2018 due in part to the 1Malaysia Development Berhad scandal. Fuebaey (talk) 10:49, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support on significance, I've not checked the updates. I agree we should get Gürtel case into the blurb somewhere. Has Sanchez officially become PM already? The media reports I'm seeing say 'expect to be succeeded by' or similar wording. Modest Genius talk 10:58, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support We also have an article on 2018 vote of no confidence in the government of Mariano Rajoy, which would be another good target. Smurrayinchester 12:18, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support, and vote of no confidence is sufficient to be the sole bold article. --LukeSurl t c 13:27, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
Opposeit's "in the news" which is all I care about, but the vote section has no refs. --LaserLegs (talk) 14:14, 1 June 2018 (UTC)- Support alt-blurb only. Sixth consecutive euro-centric story posted to ITN and not a single cry of "systemic bias". --LaserLegs (talk) 15:40, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support, it's the first time in Spanish history that a vote of no-confidences kicks out a government and the first time in democracy a Spanish Prime Minister is outsed due to a corruption scandal. It's really important, and have an impact in EU. --Alsoriano97 (talk) 15:14, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support – Change in head of govt. Significant European political shift to left. Sca (talk) 14:57, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support altblurb Significance is clear. The "no confidence" article is well -sourced (sourcing issues pointed out in previous !votes have been fixed it seems), and summarizes the situation pretty well. It would be nice to have the Gurtel case article improved, but that's not a show-stopper for posting this. --Masem (t) 15:04, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support altblurb per Masem.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 15:08, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support alt-blurb A change in head-of-government, accompanied by a party-switch. Very significant. Davey2116 (talk) 16:20, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support alt-blurb per others. A real surprise, although not as dramatic as what's happened in Italy. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:26, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support alt-blurb per ITNR. --Jamez42 (talk) 17:49, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Not ITNR but that's ok. --LaserLegs (talk) 17:53, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Comment marked ready. No confidence article is good enough, consensus to post. --LaserLegs (talk) 17:53, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support altblurb per others. Lepricavark (talk) 18:34, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Posted. Thryduulf (talk) 19:19, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
Premier of Pakistan changed
Blurb: Nasirul Mulk is sworn in as Caretaker Prime Minister of Pakistan. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Former Chief Justice of Pakistan Nasirul Mulk takes oath as 7th Caretaker Prime Minister of Pakistan.
News source(s): Geo News, The Express Tribune, The News International, Pakistan Today
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Amirk94391 (talk · give credit)
Nominator's comments: Gaining widespread media coverage. Plus change of head of state is also listed in ITNR. The article seems to be in good state. Amirk94391 (talk) 09:36, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Comment Removed as nomination under ITNR as this is a change in head of government other than through an election. The head of state of Pakistan is the president. -- KTC (talk) 10:05, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Placeholder roles aren't inherently significant enough for ITN. Barring any unforseen circumstances, he'll be in office for about two months until after the Pakistani general election, 2018 and however long it takes to form a new government. Fuebaey (talk) 10:32, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support Article quality is sufficient, news sources indicate this is currently in the news. --Jayron32 01:59, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
(Posted) Italian government formed
Blurb: After months of negotiations, the Government of Change takes power in Italy with Giuseppe Conte as prime minister (Post)
Alternative blurb: Giuseppe Conte becomes Prime Minister of Italy, leading a coalition government after protracted negotiations
News source(s): e.g. [4] with lots of previous coverage [5]
Credits:
- Nominated by Banedon (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Angelo.romano (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Banedon (talk) 07:09, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose the Government of Change article is not updated and forms a very important part of the blurb. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:15, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support. The end of a long-running saga with important implications for the world's 8th largest economy. I've added an altblurb. Modest Genius talk 11:05, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- I could support this. My only niggling concern is the amount of paragraphs beginning or infested with proseline (on xx March/April/May 2018...) in the highlighted article, though repetitive yet coherent English isn't a barrier for posting. Fuebaey (talk) 15:15, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support - The new government will most likely put Italy in the Euro-critic camp, as in they will oppose certain rules and agreements currently being enforced within the EU, such as the sending migrants back and having plans that go against the fiscal/economic policies of the EU. Like Modest Genius said this will have quite some implications for the EU, and is a move away from ussual Italian politics from my understanding, henche why I support putting this on the frontpage. However, the article is quite sparse and needs a update. Dragnadh (talk) 17:29, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support - Definitely one of the most significant developments in recent European politics. Has been covered heavily by international media.--RaviC (talk) 22:48, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Question we posted the election results back on March 9th, so is this government unexpected or did it just take longer than usual to form a shaky coalition that'll collapse in 18 months and force new elections? --LaserLegs (talk) 23:06, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- All of the pre-election alliances failed to reach a coalition, but the new alliance (which includes populists from across the political spectrum) was unexpected by many due to the differences in ideology. It does however have a stable majority in both houses of the Italian Parliament. --RaviC (talk) 23:27, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying. No comment on nom. --LaserLegs (talk) 00:14, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- Wait. We should wait and see if this government will last for more than a few weeks. Count Iblis (talk) 12:55, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- By which time this would no longer be news? --RaviC (talk) 13:30, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support articles sufficiently updated, ITN/R Juxlos (talk) 13:56, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support - Article(s) in presentable condition, ITN-worthy and with international implications. Jusdafax (talk) 14:00, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support ITN/R, and article has been greatly improved since I last checked. Davey2116 (talk) 17:15, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- Not ITN/R but that's ok. --LaserLegs (talk) 17:19, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support I have no doubt about the importance of Spanish developments, but I sincerly think that the Italian situation is maybe even more important, due to the formation of the first "fully populist government" in Western Europe (1, 2, 3). So, in my humble opinion, we had to insert it (maybe with Conte's pic). -- Nick.mon (talk) 17:33, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- Posted. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:22, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- That's seven, seven consecutive Euro-centric blurbs posted without any claims of "systemic bias" - ha ha ha --LaserLegs (talk) 08:44, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
(Closed) Arkady Babchenko fakes death
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Blurb: Russian journalist Arkady Babchenko fakes his own death, claiming a plot on his life (Post)
News source(s): See article or Google, e.g. [6]
Credits:
- Nominated by Banedon (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Lopifalko (talk · give credit)
Article updated
- Oppose Press stunts are not ITN. --Masem (t) 02:12, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support Highly unusual story, in the news and article is sufficiently updated. Pawnkingthree (talk) 02:34, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose would make a great DYK (while it exists). The Rambling Man (talk) 05:22, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose a thoroughly bizarre story, and probably relevant to ongoing Russia-Ukraine conflicts in ways that aren't clear yet. But not important enough to post here. It is DYK eligible and is on the Current events portal. power~enwiki (π, ν) 05:27, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose. A very strange event but not one with ITN-levels of significance. It would make a great DYK though. Modest Genius talk 11:01, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose because of some missing refs. Else, it's in the news, and highly unusual. --LaserLegs (talk) 14:16, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support--UkrainianCossack (talk) 14:17, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose – Per Masem, Genius. Stunt roundly criticized as disruptive. Sca (talk) 15:03, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Whether this is a continuation of the propaganda war between Russia-Ukraine or a journalist being too close to the news for his job, I don't think this reaches the significance required for posting onto ITN. Unless serious diplomatic repercussions come out of it, this is no bigger than a TV prank show meme. Fuebaey (talk) 15:51, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support Very notable, and article is pretty good. Davey2116 (talk) 16:23, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose better suited for DYK. Lepricavark (talk) 18:33, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
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(Closed) Equal Rights Amendment
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Blurb: Illinois becomes the 37th state to ratify Equal Rights Amendment to the United States Constitution. (Post)
- Oppose A largely symbolic move with no real tangible effect. EternalNomad (talk) 01:56, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- 'I have reopened this with no prejudice to either side - ENOUGH. There needs to be a minimum standard for time open before closing. This particular nomination is total BS. I mean no negativity to you @Stephen: 29 minutes? C'mon! - Floydian τ ¢ 18:20, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Realistically, any long-term editor at ITN can recognize that this story has zero chance of being posted. It was a completely fair close. It is an interesting DYK, but not ITN. --Masem (t) 18:24, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- For reference, here is the comment that I left on Stephen's talk page regarding my rationale for nominating this as an ITN - With all due respect, I disagree with your comment on my ITN nomination. While the "deadline" for ratification has long since passed, there is a continued effort to ratify ERA. Congress extended the deadline previously and it is not inconceivable that this Congress, or any subsequent Congress, could choose to do the same, if a 38th state ratifies (which is the threshold for adoption into the U.S. Constitution). A common argument of opponents to ratification is just this, that the "deadline" passed 35 years ago, but the issue is still present and is significant. I would like to request that you reopen the ITN discussion on this matter. StrikerforceTalk 18:32, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Realistically, any long-term editor at ITN can recognize that this story has zero chance of being posted. It was a completely fair close. It is an interesting DYK, but not ITN. --Masem (t) 18:24, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose per EternalNomad. Lepricavark (talk) 18:33, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:44, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- "Please do not ... add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. " --LaserLegs (talk) 18:46, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- OK, oppose because it's a meaningless gesture; the 38th state would be worth some consideration but this one is not. There's not even a news link to examine. I'd have supported the earlier snow close, but there apparently weren't enough oppose votes. Now there hopefully are. power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:47, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- The Chicago Tribune article cited for the passage last night in Illinois doesn't qualify as "a news link to examine"? StrikerforceTalk 18:52, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- OK, oppose because it's a meaningless gesture; the 38th state would be worth some consideration but this one is not. There's not even a news link to examine. I'd have supported the earlier snow close, but there apparently weren't enough oppose votes. Now there hopefully are. power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:47, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- "Please do not ... add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. " --LaserLegs (talk) 18:46, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose too many missing refs. Thanks to Floydian for re-opening. I agree, I'd rather a nom drown in opposes than be closed after 30 minutes. --LaserLegs (talk) 18:45, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I follow what you mean by "too many missing refs". The article has 130 or so citations and the information specifically proposed to be included in this ITN is cited. StrikerforceTalk 18:48, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Ok let me waste 15 minutes to make it obvious. --LaserLegs (talk) 18:52, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- There, is it more clear now? That was a just a cursory glance of passages blatantly missing citations. I don't actually care about this AT ALL, so I'll not take the time to see which of these 130 citations are dead links, or don't actually back the three or four sentences which precede them. --LaserLegs (talk) 18:59, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Ok let me waste 15 minutes to make it obvious. --LaserLegs (talk) 18:52, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I follow what you mean by "too many missing refs". The article has 130 or so citations and the information specifically proposed to be included in this ITN is cited. StrikerforceTalk 18:48, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose super-local politics and meaningless to most. Should have remained closed to avoid this unfortunate kind of pile-on which the early close was hoping to bypass... The Rambling Man (talk) 18:55, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
Brazil nationwide strike (2)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): Bloomberg, Washington Post, BBC, NY Times, The Guardian,The Sydney Morning Herald, Al Jazeera, Deutsche Welle, EuroNews (FR), Le Figaro (FR), Le Journal de Montréal, Corriere del Ticino (IT)
Credits:
- Nominated by Alumnum (talk · give credit)
Nominator's comments: Renominating the article; this time for "ongoing" since it's been more than a week. Other users and I have been improving it and correcting everything wrong and I believe it deserves to be in the main page. Criticism is welcome but please be specific. Alumnum (talk) 20:21, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose it's still in desperate need of a WP:COPYEDIT and I'm not going to do it for you by tagging the whole article. Here is an example "Another criminal act issue is being investigated by the Public Prosecutor's Office on abusive coercion techniques used by some protesters on some truck drivers to difficult the police work, such as dismantling the blockades by parking their trucks in difficult positions and keeping the fuel trucks out of reach.". That's one of many. I also take issue with the title. A "strike" is a work stoppage, but this is more like violent militias setting up illegal roadblocks. You might consider moving the article to 2018 labor unrest in Brazil or 2018 take over of Brazilian highways or something. Lastly, the article is a WP:PROSELINE mess of anecdotal incidents resulting from this on going criminal activity. Thank you for updating this article, but from a quality standpoint it's just not ready for the main page. --LaserLegs (talk) 23:34, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose for the third (?) time. Just not good enough. The Rambling Man (talk) 05:23, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Comment According to Reuters it may be ending. The article needs copy-editing, I'll try to do so tomorrow. power~enwiki (π, ν) 05:29, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
May 30
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RD: Dan Kneen
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport, Evening Standard, The Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by Fuebaey (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Cs-wolves (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: British motorcycle racer. Fuebaey (talk) 11:50, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support Appears to be well referenced.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 12:16, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support Short but looks adequate. –Ammarpad (talk) 21:17, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support Good work! Marking ready. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:12, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose. Several uncited sentences in the Marks Bloom Racing section and the Penz13.com BMW Motorrad Racing section is completely unsourced. Thryduulf (talk) 19:44, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose per Thryduulf and that so-called fair use image uploaded days after this public figure's death. Completely inappropriate and should be removed. The Rambling Man (talk) 05:48, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Thryduulf: @The Rambling Man: Please have another look as the article has been substantially updated by Cs-wolves.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:28, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
(Closed) Ortho and para-water separated for the first time
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Blurb: Ortho and para-water separated for the first time (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:
- Nominated by Count Iblis (talk · give credit)
Article needs updating
- Oppose "Cool" science, but we have both quality issues, a lack of significant update to the article, and that at the core, that this is confirmation of what had been readily speculated about quantum properties of substances. (Eg if it were the discovery that water could have difference spin forms, that might be ITN-ish). --Masem (t) 17:58, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose not of worldwide significance. Nixinova T C 20:03, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- That's what they said about a lot of scientific discoveries at the time. HiLo48 (talk) 23:51, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- Most viewers wouldn't even know what any of that means. Ortho and parawater? The article is also not nearly acceptable for ITN inclusion. The article also doesn't even mention this new development at all. Nixinova T C 07:27, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Wow, what a change of argument. I might agree with some of that. HiLo48 (talk) 07:40, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Most viewers wouldn't even know what any of that means. Ortho and parawater? The article is also not nearly acceptable for ITN inclusion. The article also doesn't even mention this new development at all. Nixinova T C 07:27, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- That's what they said about a lot of scientific discoveries at the time. HiLo48 (talk) 23:51, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose even if its significance was made clearer in the blurb, the article is nowhere near adequate for main page inclusion. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:10, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- With a very technical item such as this, the article is required to have a complete explanation of the phenomenon so the reader can make sense of what this means and its significance. That is absent here. The article only briefly mentions water as a substance with para- and ortho- states, and doesn’t mention this recent separation at all. —LukeSurl t c 07:32, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:46, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
(Posted) Turkish currency and debt crisis, 2018
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): Economist Foreign Policy Washington Post Ahval
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by 2A1ZA (talk · give credit)
Nominator's comments: The Turkish currency and debt crisis is very much in the news and an economic development of major gravity, with international repercussions. The article is of high quality, covers the subject comprehensively and gives consideration and due weight to its many diverse aspects. 2A1ZA (talk) 10:31, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- Support I have seen the effects of this describing some of the impact on international stock markets, so this is has a reaching impact. --Masem (t) 15:29, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- Support Decent article. Apt for ongoing. –Ammarpad (talk) 15:34, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- Comment the markets and business press are reacting to Italy, not Turkey. No opinion on this nom, just FYI. --LaserLegs (talk) 16:32, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- Weak oppose based on your claim that The Turkish currency and debt crisis is very much in the news. This ITN/C post is the first I've heard of it here in the U.S. --184.248.229.190 (talk) 21:14, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- weak oppose do not think worthy of ongoing. That said the stock market has been highly volatile, to say the least (uggh, if only I was trading there...).Lihaas (talk) 03:01, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Support - Updated article. Sherenk1 (talk) 03:55, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Support Good article, substantial and interesting topic, much in the media in Europe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.204.139.3 (talk) 05:51, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose based in this report from yesterday where it now appears the Ruble has been restored as everyone's favourite "love to hate" currency. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:12, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- The crisis in Turkey by its nature is a debt crisis now (triggered by the currency), and that debt crisis is certainly ongoing. Even the causes did not yet go away, for example deficits in trade respective current account are still exorbitant and climbing, see this news from today. -- 2A1ZA (talk) 12:18, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
- Even the lira started a new round of depreciation today, after the disastrous report on sharply deteriorating manufacturing conditions was released. See this news from today. Or this. -- 2A1ZA (talk) 18:24, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support - Decent article, with broad international ramifications. Turkey is too big to fail so the stock market swings are of interest, but as I see it the ongoing great game stuff makes this blurbable. Jusdafax (talk) 08:30, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support The topic is in the news and is very notable, the article is pretty good. Davey2116 (talk) 03:14, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- Posted. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:24, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- Missed this one that slid in. That's eight consecutive Euro-centric stories posted to ITN. Time to rename it EuroPedia! --LaserLegs (talk) 08:45, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- Instead of complaining about it, please make a nomination. I know you are capable of this. These sorts of comments are bordering on WP:POINT. 331dot (talk) 08:55, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- Missed this one that slid in. That's eight consecutive Euro-centric stories posted to ITN. Time to rename it EuroPedia! --LaserLegs (talk) 08:45, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
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(Closed) RD: Arkady Babchenko
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Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by Thryduulf (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Supportgood enough for me. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:59, 30 May 2018 (UTC)- Oppose it appears reports of his death are somewhat premature. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:42, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- Support No issues. –Ammarpad (talk) 13:22, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- Withdraw RD nomination per TRM and the updated news that this was a staged death. Does the story warrant a blurb though? Thryduulf (talk) 14:50, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- Unless he's charged and convicted on something, press stunts I don't think are ITN-appropriate. --Masem (t) 15:05, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose – Reports of his death were greatly exaggerated. – Sca (talk) 15:11, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
(Closed) Roseanne canceled
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Blurb: The American Broadcasting Company cancels the revival of the television sitcom Roseanne after controversial remarks by Roseanne Barr regarding Valerie Jarrett. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, CNBC
Credits:
- Nominated by Bongwarrior (talk · give credit)
Article updated
- Oppose I don't think it's important or interesting enough. power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:36, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Epitome of trivia. Far below threshold of significance needed at ITN. –Ammarpad (talk) 20:42, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose DYK-worthy. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:44, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose good faith nomination. This happens not infrequently, more so now with Twitter. 331dot (talk) 20:49, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose if she was assassinated for it, maybe. Probably still not. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 20:51, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- That's just uncalled for. Acerbic or not, we're still talking about a human being here. Please try to remain constructive. 165.225.0.68 (talk) 20:59, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- I think the point is a reasonable one, if Roseanne had been murdered because of this, then the story would certainly be more newsworthy than simply "channel cancels show". The Rambling Man (talk) 21:04, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- It would also be more newsworthy if she'd been given an estate on the moon. Instead, you are choosing to be deliberately unpleasant. Though it'd be even more newsworthy if you weren't, for once. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.225.0.68 (talk) 21:25, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- I think the point is a reasonable one, if Roseanne had been murdered because of this, then the story would certainly be more newsworthy than simply "channel cancels show". The Rambling Man (talk) 21:04, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- That's just uncalled for. Acerbic or not, we're still talking about a human being here. Please try to remain constructive. 165.225.0.68 (talk) 20:59, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Conditional support Wasn't around nearly as long this time, but the return was hyped up (at least in North America) as the biggest comeback in television history. So if we mentioned the glorious new debut a few months ago, we should mention its inglorious new demise today. If we didn't, this would just seem weird. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:10, May 29, 2018 (UTC)
- We didn't. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:12, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- I'm proud of us. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:15, May 29, 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose The blurb is something I'd expect to see on an entertainment website or social media clickbait. It is notable as a moment of here-today gone-tomorrow celebrity flare-up. It is not notable for a piece of actual news. doktorb wordsdeeds 21:34, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
(Closed) Liege shooting
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Blurb: Four people, including the gunman are killed in a shooting in Liege, Belgium. (Post)
News source(s): news.com.au
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Lihaas (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Just occurred a little while ago, so article needs work. Lihaas (talk) 13:24, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose article is not anywhere near ready for main page. It's "in the news", so sure. ITN has a pretty strong "death and destruction" bias. --LaserLegs (talk) 12:45, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- btw- more than doubled the page. Im just gonna add the infobox, someone else then should come through.Lihaas (talk) 13:15, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- I don't know how much "background" can be written about a guy who went crazy during his day parole from prison. Shouting "Allahu Akbar" doesn't automatically make someone a terrorist, and with a name like "Benjamin Herman" I rather doubt he's a Syrian refugee. Infobox or not, there isn't much meat to the article because there isn't much known. Wikipedia does it's best work when quality and informative articles are featured on the main page. --LaserLegs (talk) 13:27, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- btw- more than doubled the page. Im just gonna add the infobox, someone else then should come through.Lihaas (talk) 13:15, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose This reads as a domestic crime (guy fresh out of prison stabs two officers, takes their gun and kills them, kills another man and takes a woman hostage before he is killed) and unless they do determine it is has terrorism roots, is an unfortunate situation but not significant for ITN. --Masem (t) 13:26, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose per MINIMUMDEATHS. I don't think we can post yet another shooting where the only inculpatory factor is "...but this one is in Belgium!" ghost 13:32, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose - Does not meet WP:MINIMUMDEATHS.--WaltCip (talk) 14:59, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose - per GCG and WP:MINIMUMDEATHS. Situation is tragic, but does rise to the significance needed here, even if it occurred in a part of the world where such incidents are less frequent. Stormy clouds (talk) 15:05, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Comment y'all know that "MINIMUMDEATHS" links to a user space essay which was written by someone who is cataloging the arbitrary thresholds used by contributors here when evaluating the "significance" of a nom right? --LaserLegs (talk) 15:11, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- @LaserLegs: - yep. I for one am aware of that, having read the essay extensively. It is helpful as a guide to exactly what thresholds and precedents have been applied in the past, as most of that logic holds. Based on those precedents, I feel that posting this would be ill-advised. The essay works in the absence of fixed rules, and thanks to Everymorning for compiling it, even if this wasn't their intended use. Stormy clouds (talk) 15:25, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose - tragic murders but with no broader implications. Local crime story.Modest Genius talk 18:09, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Also, WP:MINIMUMDEATHS is not something we should be legitimising or following. It's a list of cherry-picked examples and statements which carry no weight whatsoever. It is not part of the ITN criteria. Modest Genius talk 18:09, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- True, but in this specific case I feel that all of the examples listed only serve to highlight the significance of this item, and how it falls below the threshold required for posting. Stormy clouds (talk) 18:29, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- We make decisions on whether or not to post on an extra-criterion basis all the time.--WaltCip (talk) 18:45, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- What's the "required threshold"? You've already acknowledged that the essay is "a list of cherry-picked examples and statements which carry no weight whatsoever. It is not part of the ITN criteria.". So what is the weight carrying ITN criteria? --LaserLegs (talk) 18:46, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- @LaserLegs: - the required threshold is the level of notability and impact which must be reached by an item to, in my view, merit posting as an ITN item, and I personally derive it from a wide variety of variables. It is fully compliant with the ITN criteria, without being an explicit part. There is simply too much news worldwide to contain in a box with a mere five sentences, so we need to choose items based on their significance to our readership. As such, using a threshold of some description is necessary, or else we would descend into a meaningless ticker, or WikiNews. Either we accept that decisions must be made, or we abandon ITN altogether. I choose the former. Stormy clouds (talk) 19:48, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- What's the "required threshold"? You've already acknowledged that the essay is "a list of cherry-picked examples and statements which carry no weight whatsoever. It is not part of the ITN criteria.". So what is the weight carrying ITN criteria? --LaserLegs (talk) 18:46, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Also, WP:MINIMUMDEATHS is not something we should be legitimising or following. It's a list of cherry-picked examples and statements which carry no weight whatsoever. It is not part of the ITN criteria. Modest Genius talk 18:09, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose minor crime. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:48, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Support. Article now seems to be in good shape, no glaring errors or statements in need of citations. -- Tavix (talk) 20:56, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose – Per Masem, Genius. Suggest close. Sca (talk) 22:05, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
Nipah Virus
Blurb: Nipah virus kills more than a dozen in the Indian state of Kerala. (Post)
News source(s): Yahoo News
Credits:
- Nominated by Sherenk1 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Doc James (talk · give credit), Milan John (talk · give credit) and Jaisal kayanna (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Nominator's comments: It has an article now so nominating again. 30,000 views on Wikipedia. Sherenk1 (talk) 03:47, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose not really seeing this as "in the news", in my jurisdictions at least. The Rambling Man (talk) 05:36, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Support It's in my (US-based) Google News feed under the health tab. Update is good, and "The virus is listed alongside Ebola and Zika as one of eight priority diseases the World Health Organization believes could cause a global epidemic." We generally post those two if the outbreak is significant, and I think we're there. ghost 13:48, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- And I thought the WHO had said this wasn't a major outbreak at this time. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:25, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
CommentOppose if this really is an outbreak that's generating enough WP:RS to be featured, then it should be possible to write a standalone article for it similar to 2018 Democratic Republic of the Congo Ebola virus outbreak. --LaserLegs (talk) 14:45, 29 May 2018 (UTC)- Support CNN and a bunch of other international news organizations are covering it.[7] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 15:34, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Support A lot has changed since previous nomination which I opposed. We now have standalone decent article and pretty sufficient coverage in mainstream media. –Ammarpad (talk) 15:50, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- support death toll rises[8][9]--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:54, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose for the same reason I opposed the most recent Ebola item. There are far too many diseases around the world that kill huge numbers of people for ITN to start posting every time one outbreak kills a dozen people. It is an unfortunate fact of life that disease kills millions of people each year. This isn't having major impacts that would raise it to ITN levels of significance e.g. no state of emergency has been declared, the WHO haven't got involved, there's no international travel ban etc. Wikipedia has a whole one paragraph of material on this outbreak, buried at the end of a general article on the virus itself. Whilst it's nice to see that the article has been recently expanded, that doesn't justify posting a non-significant event. Modest Genius talk 18:17, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- ... but it might make the article suitable for WP:DYK. Modest Genius talk 17:33, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose The flu kills hundreds of times more people every year. HiLo48 (talk) 22:10, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
RD: Cornelia Frances
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:
- Nominated by Sherenk1 (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Australian actress. Referencing issues. Sherenk1 (talk) 04:01, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose, with regret. Films/TV sections basically unreferenced. The Rambling Man (talk) 05:36, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
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RD: Serge Dassault
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
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- Nominated by The Rambling Man (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Article is borderline. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:02, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose 5 [citation needed] tags, one reference just links to the French wiki with a [user-generated source] tag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nixinova (talk • contribs)
(Posted) RD: Neale Cooper
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:
- Nominated by The Rambling Man (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Article is in pretty good condition. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:30, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
- Support Sufficient for RD. –Ammarpad (talk) 06:10, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- Weak support Okay article. Nixinova T C 04:32, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose article is not too bad but there are a couple of CN tags and the Honours section is unreferenced. Pawnkingthree (talk) 02:38, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Pawnkingthree all addressed, now we're good to go. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:14, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Posted. 331dot (talk) 11:18, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
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