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20:21:52, 18 May 2018 review of submission by Benchik Pelmenchik

• Benchik Pelmenchik (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Giovanni Pietro Magni (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Howdo! I just wondered if you could recommend what would be needed to fix the Magni page you just looked at to demonstrate the notability? Magno is mentioned three times on the Würzburg Cathedral page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Würzburg_Cathedral and has a massive section on this external website: http://www.tessinerkuenstler-ineuropa.ch/ita/magni-gp-ita.html How could I better emphasise this on the Wiki article, do you reckon? Cheers, Ben Benchik Pelmenchik (talk) 20:21, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Benchik Pelmenchik (talk) 20:21, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles are no good for establishing notability. I've had a quick search and there really doesn't seem to be much written about him does there? Do you have access to Dettelbacher, Werner (1974). Franken - Kunst, Geschichte und Landschaft (German). Dumont Verlag. ISBN 3-7701-0746-2. this is used as a reference in the Würzburg Cathedral article. Theroadislong (talk) 20:37, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

This may be of use [1] and you haven't mentioned his work on Würzburg Cathedral in the draft. Theroadislong (talk) 20:56, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Cheers, just been looking at all that. Here's a big fat academic monograph on the feller, by the way: http://frankenland.franconica.uni-wuerzburg.de/login/data/1999_34.pdf I should have kept it as a draft really, I suppose, and meant to come back to it to add a lot more stuff anyway. Magni is easily comparable to Francis Bernasconi, say, about whom we've had an article for ages. Going back to have a look at the draft again now... Benchik Pelmenchik (talk) 21:11, 19 May 2018 (UTC) Was just working on it, when I saw "declined 3 seconds ago" up at the top - hold your horses! :D Maybe it's better now, would you say?Benchik Pelmenchik (talk) 21:31, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

It was declined yesterday not today? Happy to accept now with the further sources, just re-submit. Theroadislong (talk) 22:57, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Good stuff, many thanks! Benchik Pelmenchik (talk) 15:49, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Paid Editors

You wrote (in February): "Wikipedia cannot be used a reference. I am astonished that someone would actually pay you for this poor quality work". I am not. Clients who pay a Wikipedia editor are often just as ignorant as the paid editors. Btw, that flack has been reincarnated. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:42, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

I have forgotten to which draft article I was referring to here? Theroadislong (talk) 07:11, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

I will check. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:24, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

User:Theroadislong - It was Draft:Mubina Rattonsey. Catholic Christians don't believe in spiritual reincarnation, but I was of course referring to sockpuppetry. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:29, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

See Paid Editors on 12 May

I've answered up at Paid Editors. I realize that answers a week up on a talk page are sometimes not easily found. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:30, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Robert Stack-Non Profit Diretor

Hello- As I am new to Wiki submission. I would appreciate some guidance with my article on Robert Stack-non profit CEO. What would you suggest I add or subtract to secure a successful submission?

Thank you Erin Viereck erinviereck@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by ErinViereck (talk • contribs) 14:08, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Some advice about noteability

Hello, I had a couple questions about what you might think I should do. I am writing about someone that I am inspired by. He is really huge in my state and he is very notable. I don't know how to find the articles written on him though. I was hoping maybe you can provide some advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christianw2018 (talk • contribs) 22:10, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

research in estonia

Dear, Theroadislong!

I uploaded my text about the initiative Research in Estonia, but it wasn't accepted. Could you please help me and tell me more specifically what should i do better?

Thank you in advance,

Reimo Rehkli Marketing Officer / Research in Estonia / Estonian Research Council reimo.rehkli@etag.ee www.etag.ee www.researchinestonia.eu — Preceding unsigned comment added by ResearchEstonia (talk • contribs) 10:21, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.11 25 May 2018

Hello Theroadislong, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

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independent sources

Hi Theroadislong,

Can you please tell me what you meant by "no independent sources?", as I wish to further improve the article and resubmit it later.

The article in question is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Paul_Varghese#Article_Updated_and_Improved

Thank You & Kind Regards, DemonKing158 (talk) 12:33, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Writing an autobiography is probably the most difficult thing to do on Wikipedia and is STRONGLY discouraged. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, which summarises what independent sources have published about subjects and has essentially no interest in what anybody says or wants to say about themselves, on Wikipedia we need reliable sources independent of the subject. Theroadislong (talk) 14:57, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Soseipiriala Sunday Abere (talk) 08:07, 27 May 2018 (UTC) This is my first Article, I will read more and update it soon. Thanks for your feedback.

Great American Doll company

Hello there, Sorry to bother you. Thank you for reviewing my page. Can you please tell me which parts make it sound like an advertisement? If you could please edit those parts for me that would be great! I would really appreciate any sort of help you could give. Thank you. Uncoveringcelebrityhistory (talk) 15:47, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

I just edited the page including your ideas. Can you take a look at it again? Thanks Uncoveringcelebrityhistory (talk) 16:03, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Everester Anand Mali

--Malianand (talk) 16:25, 28 May 2018 (UTC)hey hii... i recently created a wiki page for Anand Mali ... he is a mountaineer and has scaled Everest also.. you have rejected saying that its self promotion ... there are many mountaineers who already have similar kind of pages ... eg: Ashish Mane... then why is my page declined... Please help me understand what can i do about it...

My decline didn't mention "self promotion" ? It said "This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue." Your draft has no sources at all. Theroadislong (talk) 18:02, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

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Re Roger Michell potter edit

Hi, yes, I am Roger Michell's wife. I shall not use bias in any sense at all editing the wiki page about my husband. I am I think in the best position to record accuarate information about him and his work. My first edit was to remove the name of Roger Michell the director from the page as this page is not about Roger Michell the director it is about Roger Michell the potter. When I search for Roger Michell I get the director. If I want Roger Michell the potter I have to put Roger Michell the potter therefore can you explain please the purpose of including Roger Michell the director on this page? with all due respect, Juliamichell — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliamichell (talk • contribs) 21:40, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

It's normal to include a link to other people of the same name but not essential. Wikipedia has no interest in what you or I know, it is only interested in what reliable sources have published about him, all content must be backed up with independent sources. All good wishes. Theroadislong (talk) 21:50, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Re Roger Michell potter edit

The second edit was linked to my book not because I am interested in advertising it but it is relevant to the fact of the Walking Ware and is the only definitive book on Walking Ware (written actually in collaboration with Roger himself) in existence and as such carries all the information that you need to know about Walking Ware and Roger's connection to it. Although this was and still is his most popularly selling work Roger must not be wholly defined by it as this would not be a true representation of him or his work or his life. Additionally, Danka Napiorkowska is an important part of the Walking Ware phenomenon but as he is not to be wholly defined by Walking Ware neither is he to be wholly defined by Danka or Lustre Pottery. As you can see I have altered the information not to disclude Danka but to qualify the origin of the designs. I had hoped to edit further concerning the origin of Lustre Pottery and hope that Wiki concern over bias will not apprehend the truth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliamichell (talk • contribs) 22:01, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

There are quite a few formatting errors in the references now, I will try and sort them out later, but PLEASE note that Wikipedia is not concerned with the truth, it is only interested in reporting what people who have no connection with the subject have published about them, in reliable places. This is why when you have a conflict of interest you are encouraged not to edit the article yourself but to make suggestions on the talk page for others to implement. Theroadislong (talk) 08:32, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Gerhard Daum Music edition

Hello Theroadislong,

thanks for your proposal on the Gerhard Daum Music Edition and merging it with the Gerhard Daum site. I'd love to explain why I think that the two articles should be separate and maybe you do have advice for me, how to make them more separate. The Gerhard Daum site is on the composer, mainly focusing on his commissioned work, while the site of the Gerhard Daum Music Edition focuses on the works he has written or rewritten on his own account and that have been made public through the label and the music library, though many of these works have later been used in different media as well. So the difference being that one even though it works under his name is a label, while the other article is about the composer as an artist. Does that make sense to you? thanks again for your comments and looking forward to your reply. Kerstin Gehner (talk) 14:34, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Salt and Pepper page...

Hi... I went to Wiki page because someone was misinterpreting & quoting the info incorrectly on Facebook... I read the entire thing, saw the mention of the Museum & other club, and decided to try to put our group's website link there as well. My plan was to later go back and do some more editing of the body of the article, with added citations from the literature, as I learned how to edit (if it worked).

so why can Museum & other club be there, and not the AGSSSC? please let me know if you have received this? scott roland, GlimmerGlass Antiques, VP-AGSSSC GlimmerGlassAntiques (talk) 18:38, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

GlimmerGlassAntiques Adding links to your own website is considered spamming, I have removed the other links too. Theroadislong (talk) 18:58, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

This is not my own website... we an international collecting club, with hundreds of members, organized in 1983! We have information to share. I do intend on editing the page to correct the misleading statements on salt and pepper shakers... GlimmerGlassAntiques (talk) 19:05, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Anthony C. Bell draft

I used wikipedia references along with the NARAS (Grammy) page. Are these better sources?I will continue to look for interviews and such to add. Vanitaapplebum (talk) 21:13, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia cannot be used as a source I'm afraid, see reliable sources for help. Theroadislong (talk) 21:17, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for so much help concerning Roger Michell studio potter

Thank you for starting the article, I have no idea how to do this although I tried many years ago

I am learning as I go along, thank you, for bearing with me, I have no bias, just inexperience, I appreciate your pointers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliamichell (talk • contribs) 01:03, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Re Roger Michell potter edit

It is very interesting what you are saying, I am not sure I am afraid how to present my answer to the correct piece

About not the truth but what people can record

Interesting, thank you, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliamichell (talk • contribs) 01:08, 3 June 2018 (UTC)