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:I've never heard that he (rather The Green River Killer, as Ridgway was identified long after the novel and film came out) was a direct inspiration for the Buffalo Bill character - do you have a source? Gein was an inspiration for the flesh suit aspect (and Lecter's cannibalism), and Bundy was an inspiration for at least two things: feigning injury to abduct Catherine Martin, and consulting with him in order to catch another serial killer. In Bundy's case, the killer they were seeking his advice on was the Green River Killer, but that would be more of an inspiration for Lecter's character. If you can find a good source on this it should be added. [[User:Doc9871|<font color="#000000" size="2">'''Doc'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Doc9871|<font color="#999999">'''talk'''</font>]] 17:01, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
:I've never heard that he (rather The Green River Killer, as Ridgway was identified long after the novel and film came out) was a direct inspiration for the Buffalo Bill character - do you have a source? Gein was an inspiration for the flesh suit aspect (and Lecter's cannibalism), and Bundy was an inspiration for at least two things: feigning injury to abduct Catherine Martin, and consulting with him in order to catch another serial killer. In Bundy's case, the killer they were seeking his advice on was the Green River Killer, but that would be more of an inspiration for Lecter's character. If you can find a good source on this it should be added. [[User:Doc9871|<font color="#000000" size="2">'''Doc'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Doc9871|<font color="#999999">'''talk'''</font>]] 17:01, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
: There are three main ways for a serial killer to acquire victims.

You can just walk up to them and hit them in the head, strangle them, or shoot them. David Berkowitz and Zodiac shot people, Dennis "BTK" Rader" strangled his victims after invading their home, and Ted Bundy hit the Chi Omega sorority sisters in the head ( a marked departure from his usual feigning injury or impersonating a cop method). Bundy's last murder of Kim Leach was a standard snatch and grab - that 12 year old girl never had a chance, though Ted did mix it up a bit by pretending to be a firefighter).

The second day is to "woo" your victim. Jeffry Dahmer was a master at this. He would chat up men at bars, invite them to his apartment for drinks and possible money if they would let him take nude photographs, and once there he would put sleeping pills in their drink and wait like a cat playing with a mouse. Once passed out he would strangle them, dismember their body parts, store the parts, and sometimes eat them.

Bundy would pretend to be injured (he worked at a hospital supply store and had access to crutches, or he would portray an authority figure (Carol DaRonch was almost lured to her death because she thought Bundy was a cop trying to track down a car burglar). Bundy was suave and convincing in most of his murders, he was able to talk the women into their doom.

The final way is to be a "john". Ridgway fits this method. He sought out prostitutes because they were easy prey. They literally walked into his truck because he promised them cold hard cash. Ridgway had a bit of con in his game because he had a picture of his son on his dash (appealing to the maternal instincts of the women he preyed upon - this nice guy with a kid can't be the killer we are all afraid of!) but his m.o. was simple profit motive. He had the money and the women wanted it. Once they struck a deal he became their worst nightmare.

Buffalo Bill was a con and manipulator. He may have gone after some prostitutes, but his character was more about what he did after {the pit - Heidnik and skinning- Gein, - not what he did to catch his prey.

No, Buffalo Bill was no Ridgway [[Special:Contributions/47.137.185.148|47.137.185.148]] ([[User talk:47.137.185.148|talk]]) 05:30, 23 June 2018 (UTC)


== Picture request ==
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DNA?

Okay where it says, "The DNA samples collected in 1987 were later subjected to a DNA analysis," I feel that is incorrect. In 1987 they would not have collected "DNA samples" since we didn't have that technology then. Simply, "The samples collected in 1987 were later subjected to a DNA analysis," would suffice. That said, I'm changing it. If I'm wrong, fine. Just please provide a source that states the samples taken were for DNA as the sentence implies. MagnoliaSouth (talk) 22:14, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Either would work. DNA analysis was used for the first time to convict a suspect (AND exonerate an innocent man) in 1987. I think that even if the technology was not developed, the task force knew what they were doing when they collected the sample. Ridgway could have been naild much earlier if there was not such a backlog in the crime lab testing facility. Even then, the evidence was circumstantial - his DNA was there because he had sex with those prostitutes. So did others. It is the nature of the "profession". 47.137.185.148 (talk) 03:24, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Silence of the Lambs

86.18.80.97 (talk) 16:51, 10 December 2011 (UTC) Should this article mention the fact that he is an inspiration for buffalo bill in silence of the lambs?[reply]

I've never heard that he (rather The Green River Killer, as Ridgway was identified long after the novel and film came out) was a direct inspiration for the Buffalo Bill character - do you have a source? Gein was an inspiration for the flesh suit aspect (and Lecter's cannibalism), and Bundy was an inspiration for at least two things: feigning injury to abduct Catherine Martin, and consulting with him in order to catch another serial killer. In Bundy's case, the killer they were seeking his advice on was the Green River Killer, but that would be more of an inspiration for Lecter's character. If you can find a good source on this it should be added. Doc talk 17:01, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There are three main ways for a serial killer to acquire victims.
You can just walk up to them and hit them in the head, strangle them, or shoot them. David Berkowitz and Zodiac shot people, Dennis "BTK" Rader" strangled his victims after invading their home, and Ted Bundy hit the Chi Omega sorority sisters in the head ( a marked departure from his usual feigning injury or impersonating a cop method). Bundy's last murder of Kim Leach was a standard snatch and grab - that 12 year old girl never had a chance, though Ted did mix it up a bit by pretending to be a firefighter).

The second day is to "woo" your victim. Jeffry Dahmer was a master at this. He would chat up men at bars, invite them to his apartment for drinks and possible money if they would let him take nude photographs, and once there he would put sleeping pills in their drink and wait like a cat playing with a mouse. Once passed out he would strangle them, dismember their body parts, store the parts, and sometimes eat them.

Bundy would pretend to be injured (he worked at a hospital supply store and had access to crutches, or he would portray an authority figure (Carol DaRonch was almost lured to her death because she thought Bundy was a cop trying to track down a car burglar). Bundy was suave and convincing in most of his murders, he was able to talk the women into their doom.

The final way is to be a "john". Ridgway fits this method. He sought out prostitutes because they were easy prey. They literally walked into his truck because he promised them cold hard cash. Ridgway had a bit of con in his game because he had a picture of his son on his dash (appealing to the maternal instincts of the women he preyed upon - this nice guy with a kid can't be the killer we are all afraid of!) but his m.o. was simple profit motive. He had the money and the women wanted it. Once they struck a deal he became their worst nightmare.

Buffalo Bill was a con and manipulator. He may have gone after some prostitutes, but his character was more about what he did after {the pit - Heidnik and skinning- Gein, - not what he did to catch his prey.

No, Buffalo Bill was no Ridgway 47.137.185.148 (talk) 05:30, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Picture request

It's a bit odd that the article for Americans most prolific serial killer doesn't have a single image. 202.171.168.178 (talk) 12:28, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There was one here, and I'll look into it: but dealing with WP:FU images will burn you out quickly. Doc talk 12:46, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Add to lead ranking

I think we should add he is the most prolific American serial killer to the lead. or something interesting like that. Cuz 49 is a lot of people. And I thought they said serial killers do not hunt outside of their ethnic group?--Inayity (talk) 14:46, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've never heard American be called an ethnicity. There was one serial killer named Armstrong who killed all over the world. He was a sailor on a U.S. Navy ship and liked to take extra "liberty" when the ship was in a foriegn port. He finally got caught in his hometown of Detroit because he couldn't lay off of the local prostitutes. 47.137.185.148 (talk) 03:28, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DNA prior to 1995

There are many police departments that correctly preserved DNA prior to 1995. It's actually how they're currently able to solve cold cases.

Ted Bundy and Rodney Alcala are both believed to have murdered over 100 females. Bundy and Alcala were also more intelligent than Ridgway. If they had the DNA testing back when Ridgway was killing that we have today, he would have been caught early on. 108.31.41.5 (talk) 09:54, 27 April 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.31.41.5 (talk) 09:31, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

First Wife

The article says:

At age 21, after graduating from high school, Ridgway married his high school girlfriend Marcia Winslow. ... the marriage ended within a year.

yet this person is not named in the list of spouses. (Or she may be under a different name, but this is undocumented.) Co149 (talk) 01:32, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Suspected victim

An anonymous poster indicated two years ago that Ridgeway was ruled out as the murderer of Rose Marie Kurran, A.K.A. "Curran." I'm unable to find any such reference, despite an extensive search for a source. Activist (talk) 11:27, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Airway Heights

The article stated: "Roughly around 2005, Ridgway made more pleas with the Federal government and was transferred to Airway Heights where he was put in a minimum-medium security tank." I have removed this entry for a number of reasons:

  • Airway Heights Corrections Center is a corrections centre that has a maximum security section, I cannot believe that his security status would be changed. Allegedly he was sent to Colorado for financial reasons, but also so he could be evaluated independantly. It was feared that he would be at risk if he remained in Washington State. His security status was as much for his own protection as part of his incarceration.
  • The statement is not referenced
  • The statement cannot be corroberated by reliable sources (most reference Wikipedia)
  • This statement seems to be in contradiction of reliable sources, such as the references in the article, where it is stated that he was transferred from Walla Walla.

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Douglas

47.137.185.148: I have no particular problem with your last edit, but in response to your edit summary: If you again remove a link from this or another article as "dead" without even attempting to find an archived copy of the URL at archive.org, I will indeed revert it (without discussion on the Talk page). Also, it sounds as if you may be relying on original research rather than published sources for at least some of your edits, and are strongly cautioned about doing so. General Ization Talk 03:21, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No original research at all. The reference says that Douglas has written 8 books. That is true. None of them are exclusively about the Green River Killer. None of the major books in GRK historiography say that Douglas was a major investigator. He is noteworthy in terms of Ridgway because the FBI was asked to bring some expertise to the investigation and Douglas is the one who came. He was a consultant, played a role, and that is what the article as it stands says. As to Douglas being ill during his visit and not doing all that much in Seattle, Douglas says that himself in his book. He almost died. 47.137.185.148 (talk) 04:33, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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