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The result was Delete per discussion. --Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 20:35, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Al Eisa

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NN alleged Arabic "clan," no reliable sources proffered. Unimproved in a decade. The article was AfDed nine years ago with a bundle of similar ones, and in one of those brutal decisions common to the era closed as a keep based on the pious hope of the keep proponents that sources might eventually appear.

My comment from that AfD was "These articles represent the sole contribution to Wikipedia of User:Phsychyzed, of which he says of himself on his talk page 'Phsychyzed is a nickname created by child and has now risen to be one of the most famous "nicknames" in use on the internet.Nobody really knows what the nickname resembles but ofcourse many have given the simplest of guess where phsychy means crazy and zed just being the alphabet letter.' The earliest of these articles is over a year old now, and at no point has any attempt to improve most of them been made. Right now the only info I'm seeing on the web refers to (a) these articles and their mirrors, (b) repeated blogging by a Jordanian teenager named Al Zeitawi looking for pen pals; and (c) a business by that name in Abu Dhabi. There are no verifiable sources for this info, not a single one. I understand that people want to bend over backwards to be Arab-friendly here, but I strongly suspect WP:HOAX at this point."

No newer sources substantiating any of the information in the article have turned up since, and the article remains unimproved in all that time. Fails the GNG, but then again it always did.

This follows several current AfDs on others in the grouping, the lead AfD which is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al-Zeitawi, and for which the overwhelming sentiment is to Delete. Ravenswing 11:06, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:07, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:07, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Middle East-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:07, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Palestine-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:07, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:51, 9 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment the previous AfD was at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al Zaghab. clpo13_(talk) 17:54, 9 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Pernom. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 11:08, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete with major kudos to Nom for searching through putative sources for a series of similarly unsourced articles. This Arab surname (see for example Mohsen Al-Eisa) lacks sources that support the grand assertions made by this page, and my searches failed to find any.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:12, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why thank you! Obviously these surnames exist, but that doesn't follow that they can sustain articles, let alone these grandiose claims. I expect that claims of descent from Muhammad (and really, what other kind of "descent" do you have other than "direct?") are as common in the Dar al-Islam as claims of possessing pieces of the True Cross are on the other side of the fence. Ravenswing 18:35, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 20:03, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as nothing at all to suggest confirmed notability and improvements. SwisterTwister talk 04:53, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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 No newer sources substantiating any of the information in the article have turned up since, and the article remains unimproved in all that time. Fails the GNG, but then again it always did.
-This follows several current AfDs on others in the grouping, the lead AfD which is [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al-Zeitawi]], and for which the overwhelming sentiment is to Delete. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#7F00FF;color:#00FFFF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''']] 11:06, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
+This follows several current AfDs on others in the grouping, the lead AfD which is [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al-Zeitawi]], and for which the overwhelming sentiment is to Delete. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#7f00ff; color:#0ff;"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''']] 11:06, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
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 :<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Islam|list of Islam-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Shawn in Montreal|Shawn in Montreal]] ([[User talk:Shawn in Montreal|talk]]) 16:07, 5 April 2016 (UTC)</small>
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-*'''Comment''' the previous AfD was at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al Zaghab]]. [[User:Clpo13|clpo13]]<sub>([[User_talk:Clpo13|talk]])</sub> 17:54, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
+*'''Comment''' the previous AfD was at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al Zaghab]]. [[User:Clpo13|clpo13]]<sub>([[User talk:Clpo13|talk]])</sub> 17:54, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
 *'''Delete''' Pernom. [[User:Arthistorian1977|Arthistorian1977]] ([[User talk:Arthistorian1977|talk]]) 11:08, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 *'''Delete''' with major kudos to Nom for searching through putative sources for a series of similarly unsourced articles.  This Arab surname (see for example [[Mohsen Al-Eisa]]) lacks sources that  support the grand assertions made by this page, and my searches failed to find any.[[User:E.M.Gregory|E.M.Gregory]] ([[User talk:E.M.Gregory|talk]]) 17:12, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
-:* Why thank you!  Obviously these surnames ''exist,'' but that doesn't follow that they can sustain articles, let alone these grandiose claims.  I expect that claims of descent from Muhammad (and really, what other kind of "descent" do you ''have'' other than "direct?") are as common in the [[Dar al-Islam]] as claims of possessing pieces of the True Cross are on the other side of the fence. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#7F00FF;color:#00FFFF"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''']] 18:35, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
+:* Why thank you!  Obviously these surnames ''exist,'' but that doesn't follow that they can sustain articles, let alone these grandiose claims.  I expect that claims of descent from Muhammad (and really, what other kind of "descent" do you ''have'' other than "direct?") are as common in the [[Divisions of the world in Islam#Dar al-Islam|Dar al-Islam]] as claims of possessing pieces of the True Cross are on the other side of the fence. [[User talk:Ravenswing|'''<span style="background:#7f00ff; color:#0ff;"> '' Ravenswing '' </span>''']] 18:35, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 *'''Delete''' per nominator.[[User:WilliamJE|...William]], is the complaint department really on [[User talk:WilliamJE|the roof?]] 20:03, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
-*'''Delete''' as nothing at all to suggest confirmed notability and improvements. [[User:SwisterTwister|<font color="green">SwisterTwister</font>]] [[User talk:SwisterTwister|<font color="green">talk</font>]] 04:53, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' as nothing at all to suggest confirmed notability and improvements. [[User:SwisterTwister|<span style="color:green;">SwisterTwister</span>]] [[User talk:SwisterTwister|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]] 04:53, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
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