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== About ainu/sources ==

Hello, here is one genetic research about origin of ainu/jomon: you need to click in the pdf and than you can read the full article.(https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/pjab/85/2/85_2_69/_article)

Here is the result:
“Their findings indicate that the indigenous Japanese people, i.e., the Ainu, belong to the northern Mongoloid group, and are in good agreement with our results that the Ainu have the northern Mongoloid Gm genes at higher pro- portions than the present-day Japanese people. —> indigenous japanese/ainu/jomon. If ainu and ryukyuans have more northern dna and are more jomon, it is clear that jomon are of northern asian origin. They are paleo-mongoloid and not australoid”

Another research that shows that southern mongoloids have no or only very less australoid/negrito admixture. It is said the highest australoid/negrito admixture is is some small tribes in southern Philippines and indonesia with about 9% australoid/negrito blood.(not very much)

Here a new research that shows that mongoloid people was already present 159.000 years ago in southern china: (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/250376782_Minatogawa_Man_the_Oldest_Type_of_Modern_Homo_sapiens_in_East_Asia) and (Rosenburg, Karen (2002). "A Late Pleistocene Human Skeleton from Liujiang, China Suggests Regional Population Variation in Sexual Dimorphism in the Human Pelvis". Variability and Evolution.)

Here a new research from 2018 that shows that mongoloid is mich older than thought and that modern humans(mongoloids) was in east asia and other parts of asia longer than 2 million years ago. Scientists call it the “out-of-asia” theory or the multi-origin theory of humans: (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/05/01/101410) Modern human origins: multiregional evolution of autosomes and East Asia origin of Y and mtDNA (Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory)


The negrito and australoid tribes lived only in small numbers in parts of southeast asia. They got displaced mostly, only some mixed. The negritos of southeast asia got displaced and today small numbers live on the malay peninsula. The negritos of indonesia mostly got displaced. Today are mostly non-existent. The negritos of the Philippines exists still as small tribes. Only on papua they are the majority.

It is beliced that when the mongoloid people came to indonesia and southeast asia, there were only 200.000 negrito people. Compared to more than 4 million mongoloid people traveling to indonesia.

I will search more sources if you want, maybe next week. I am currently on holiday. Greetings [[Special:Contributions/212.95.8.241|212.95.8.241]] ([[User talk:212.95.8.241|talk]]) 15:44, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

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Thank you for your answer. Your articles definitely help people learn about foreign cultures! My question was about whether to write "Piso Halasan" or "piso halasan". Generally, "piso halasan" would be correct in English unless, for example, "Halasan" refers to a specific place or person. For example, "longsword" is not capitalized, but the first "S" in "Swiss saber" is because it refers to Switzerland. Tdslk (talk) 17:44, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I got what you mean. It's either just "piso" or "Piso Halasan".--Jeblat (talk) 08:07, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Diannaa.. The source material was not the text but a table. I'm aware of writing in articles with material source as a reference support, not copy-paste. But in this case it's a table, not a text/essay, so I might have done it wrongly or maybe you can enlighten me on this. Also could it be that there is a copyright mentioned in the article somewhere? I did cite the author and publisher as well. Thanks. Jeblat (talk) 07:06, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The flag template I used for the Wolani people is for the province of Papua, not the country. It displays the flag of the province and links to the province's wikipedia page. I do understand however, how this might be confusing to readers, with the similarity in name (and the fact that I believe Papua New Guinea is sometimes referred to colloquially as Papua), and that people might be less familiar with provincial flags. I'd be fine with changing it to a wikilink reading [[Papua (province)|Papua province]] or {{flagicon|Papua}} [[Papua (province)|Papua province]]. Let me know what you think. Plandu (talk) 19:19, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the pointing it out. Really appreciate it. Let's discuss it at Talk:Wolani people page. -Jeblat (talk) 12:40, 18 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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About ainu/sources

Hello, here is one genetic research about origin of ainu/jomon: you need to click in the pdf and than you can read the full article.(https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/pjab/85/2/85_2_69/_article)

Here is the result: “Their findings indicate that the indigenous Japanese people, i.e., the Ainu, belong to the northern Mongoloid group, and are in good agreement with our results that the Ainu have the northern Mongoloid Gm genes at higher pro- portions than the present-day Japanese people. —> indigenous japanese/ainu/jomon. If ainu and ryukyuans have more northern dna and are more jomon, it is clear that jomon are of northern asian origin. They are paleo-mongoloid and not australoid”

Another research that shows that southern mongoloids have no or only very less australoid/negrito admixture. It is said the highest australoid/negrito admixture is is some small tribes in southern Philippines and indonesia with about 9% australoid/negrito blood.(not very much)

Here a new research that shows that mongoloid people was already present 159.000 years ago in southern china: (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/250376782_Minatogawa_Man_the_Oldest_Type_of_Modern_Homo_sapiens_in_East_Asia) and (Rosenburg, Karen (2002). "A Late Pleistocene Human Skeleton from Liujiang, China Suggests Regional Population Variation in Sexual Dimorphism in the Human Pelvis". Variability and Evolution.)

Here a new research from 2018 that shows that mongoloid is mich older than thought and that modern humans(mongoloids) was in east asia and other parts of asia longer than 2 million years ago. Scientists call it the “out-of-asia” theory or the multi-origin theory of humans: (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/05/01/101410) Modern human origins: multiregional evolution of autosomes and East Asia origin of Y and mtDNA (Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory)


The negrito and australoid tribes lived only in small numbers in parts of southeast asia. They got displaced mostly, only some mixed. The negritos of southeast asia got displaced and today small numbers live on the malay peninsula. The negritos of indonesia mostly got displaced. Today are mostly non-existent. The negritos of the Philippines exists still as small tribes. Only on papua they are the majority.

It is beliced that when the mongoloid people came to indonesia and southeast asia, there were only 200.000 negrito people. Compared to more than 4 million mongoloid people traveling to indonesia.

I will search more sources if you want, maybe next week. I am currently on holiday. Greetings 212.95.8.241 (talk) 15:44, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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