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Besides that i checked the source (<ref>http://www.weatherbase.com/weather/weather.php3?s=008606&refer=&units=us</ref>) that was used for meteo data in current weather box's Tamanrasset records. I was expecting some pre-WW2 source database that we so often see in Northern Africa - such as Kebili's pre-WW2 deluded record 55,0 °C that still stands (both by WMO and wikipedia) despite post-WW2 record that is only 48,5 °C. But no... The source doesn't support abovementioned 42,5s, 44,7s and 47,4s. The source's highest temps are mere 40 °C (rounded?!) in May and August. This 40 °C is true and sensible since Tamanrasset's 40,0+ °C record breaking flurry began in 2016, to be exact 18.6.2016 with '''40,2 °C''' <ref>https://www.ogimet.com/cgi-bin/gsynres?ord=REV&ndays=50&ano=2016&mes=07&day=29&hora=23&ind=60680</ref> and continued in 2017, to be exact 2.7.2017 with '''40,4 °C''' <ref>https://www.ogimet.com/cgi-bin/gsynres?ord=REV&ndays=50&ano=2017&mes=07&day=29&hora=23&ind=60680</ref> and now culminated with '''40,5 °C''' and later '''40,8 °C''' in Sahara's most severe heat wave in verified history in 2018, which i already mentioned. So, now i understand even less what 42,5s, 44,7s and 47,4s in Tamanrasset's weather box are about, since even the very source that supposedly claim 42,5s, 44,7s and 47,4s, in reality claims only 40s.
Besides that i checked the source (<ref>http://www.weatherbase.com/weather/weather.php3?s=008606&refer=&units=us</ref>) that was used for meteo data in current weather box's Tamanrasset records. I was expecting some pre-WW2 source database that we so often see in Northern Africa - such as Kebili's pre-WW2 deluded record 55,0 °C that still stands (both by WMO and wikipedia) despite post-WW2 record that is only 48,5 °C. But no... The source doesn't support abovementioned 42,5s, 44,7s and 47,4s. The source's highest temps are mere 40 °C (rounded?!) in May and August. This 40 °C is true and sensible since Tamanrasset's 40,0+ °C record breaking flurry began in 2016, to be exact 18.6.2016 with '''40,2 °C''' <ref>https://www.ogimet.com/cgi-bin/gsynres?ord=REV&ndays=50&ano=2016&mes=07&day=29&hora=23&ind=60680</ref> and continued in 2017, to be exact 2.7.2017 with '''40,4 °C''' <ref>https://www.ogimet.com/cgi-bin/gsynres?ord=REV&ndays=50&ano=2017&mes=07&day=29&hora=23&ind=60680</ref> and now culminated with '''40,5 °C''' and later '''40,8 °C''' in Sahara's most severe heat wave in verified history in 2018, which i already mentioned. So, now i understand even less what 42,5s, 44,7s and 47,4s in Tamanrasset's weather box are about, since even the very source that supposedly claim 42,5s, 44,7s and 47,4s, in reality claims only 40s.


To conclude, there is tons of wikipedia data (i'm refering to weather data in '''wikipedia's weather boxes''') of North Africa weather data with such deluded information that wikipedia shares. Other similar examples of unrealistic, faulty and deluded data in wikipedia's weather boxes include:
To conclude, there are tons of wikipedia data (i'm refering to weather data in '''wikipedia's weather boxes''') of North Africa weather data with such deluded information that wikipedia shares. Other similar examples of unrealistic, faulty and deluded data in wikipedia's weather boxes include:
(1) Kebili, Tunisia <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kebili</ref> ... for example in midst of unprecedented heat when nearby Ouargla set all-time African record with 51,3 °C, Kebili missed a record 48,5 °C by a mere 3 tenths since it was 48,2 °C that day (5.7.2018) <ref>https://www.ogimet.com/cgi-bin/gsynres?ord=REV&ndays=50&ano=2018&mes=07&day=29&hora=23&ind=60764</ref> ... for measurements as 55s and 53,9s that are in Kebili's wikipedia article we should have 57s and 58s in towns like Touggourt or El Oued or Ouargla.
(1) Kebili, Tunisia <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kebili</ref> ... for example in midst of unprecedented heat when nearby Ouargla set all-time African record with 51,3 °C, Kebili missed a record 48,5 °C by a mere 3 tenths since it was 48,2 °C that day (5.7.2018) <ref>https://www.ogimet.com/cgi-bin/gsynres?ord=REV&ndays=50&ano=2018&mes=07&day=29&hora=23&ind=60764</ref> ... for measurements as 55s and 53,9s that are in Kebili's wikipedia article we should have 57s and 58s in towns like Touggourt or El Oued or Ouargla.
(2) Al Azzizyah, Libya <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E2%80%98Aziziya</ref>
(2) Al Azzizyah, Libya <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E2%80%98Aziziya</ref>

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I hardly understand what the weather data on this page (Tamanrasset Airport) is about.

Yesterday (28.7.2018) Tamanrasset Airport recorded all-time high of 40,8 °C ([1]) only few weeks after new record 40,5 °C on 12.6.2018 (whole amazing sequence of near 40 °C and two above 40 °C peaks: [2]) and the Town of Tamanrasset's record stays unbeaten at 41,6 °C. Such "low" all-time highs for Sahara are logical, since Tamanrasset in at 1.320 metres above sea level (!) high in the heart of Ahaggar Range, so they can not compete with lowlands, for example relatively nearby In Salah's record 50,6 °C (293 m) or two other relatively nearby records also set yesterday at Illizi 47,6 °C (567 m) or In Amenas 47,6 °C (549 m).

Despite what i mentioned on wikipedia for Tamanrasset's weather box [3] there are allegedly record highs for months: - June 44,7 °C - July 47,4 °C - August 47,4 °C - September 42,5 °C

in a town that hasn't ever seen 42 °C (in town) or 41 °C (at airport). Again logical as temperature records lower at a rate of about 1 °C every 100 metres. So if yesterday Illizi and In Amenas recorded 47,6 °C then about 750 metres higher Tamanrasset's temperature high must be about 7-8 degrees °C lower - which it of course was at above mentioned 40,8 °C. If it would really be 47,4 °C in 1320 m high Tamanrasset then we should measure about 57-58 °C in over kilometre lower In Salah (using 1 degree per 100 metres estimate rate). Another thing. Tamanrasset's 1320 m is almost as high as 850 hPa. So far i haven't heard of 850 hPa temperature higher than 41 °C, and even that was in Middle East. Sahara hasn't broken 40 °C level on 850 hPa as far as i know. So how can from 1.500 m (850 hPa) be 40 °C in extremely rare situation (maybe once in a century somewhere in Sahara) and then 7,4 degrees °C higher only 180 metres lower? Physics doesn't allow it.

Besides that i checked the source ([4]) that was used for meteo data in current weather box's Tamanrasset records. I was expecting some pre-WW2 source database that we so often see in Northern Africa - such as Kebili's pre-WW2 deluded record 55,0 °C that still stands (both by WMO and wikipedia) despite post-WW2 record that is only 48,5 °C. But no... The source doesn't support abovementioned 42,5s, 44,7s and 47,4s. The source's highest temps are mere 40 °C (rounded?!) in May and August. This 40 °C is true and sensible since Tamanrasset's 40,0+ °C record breaking flurry began in 2016, to be exact 18.6.2016 with 40,2 °C [5] and continued in 2017, to be exact 2.7.2017 with 40,4 °C [6] and now culminated with 40,5 °C and later 40,8 °C in Sahara's most severe heat wave in verified history in 2018, which i already mentioned. So, now i understand even less what 42,5s, 44,7s and 47,4s in Tamanrasset's weather box are about, since even the very source that supposedly claim 42,5s, 44,7s and 47,4s, in reality claims only 40s.

To conclude, there are tons of wikipedia data (i'm refering to weather data in wikipedia's weather boxes) of North Africa weather data with such deluded information that wikipedia shares. Other similar examples of unrealistic, faulty and deluded data in wikipedia's weather boxes include: (1) Kebili, Tunisia [7] ... for example in midst of unprecedented heat when nearby Ouargla set all-time African record with 51,3 °C, Kebili missed a record 48,5 °C by a mere 3 tenths since it was 48,2 °C that day (5.7.2018) [8] ... for measurements as 55s and 53,9s that are in Kebili's wikipedia article we should have 57s and 58s in towns like Touggourt or El Oued or Ouargla. (2) Al Azzizyah, Libya [9] (3) Ghadames, Libya [10] ... same as i wrote for Kebili, not even close in this year's ultra-rare event: [11] (4) Ouargla, Algeria [12]; here is problematic all-time high 53,5 °C that of course is incorrect, since the actual record was set in 2018 at 51,3 °C

and many more pre-WW2 databases with unrealistic data that wikipedia uses with full confidence.

I only wish someday wikipedia would get true and realistic data in weather boxes for weather stations (especially North African) since the current situation on wikipedia has nothing to do with reality, weather standards and is thus unusable for any purpose. 77.38.84.7 (talk) 11:41, 29 July 2018 (UTC) (Iztok Hohnjec, Celje, Slovenia)[reply]